Re: [darktable-user] A better starting-point for Nikon RAW-files
View NX2 also runs on Apple. As I do not have Windows, I have tried to do
the same on the Macbook, but I could not find the temporary files. Does
somebody know where to find them on the Mac?
Regards
Johann
On 7 August 2016 at 16:06, Saint Germain wrote:
> I tried also with rawtherapee, and I can use the icm profiles without
> any problem, so there may be something wrong with darktable.
>
> However with rawtherapee, the results is the same as with darktable and
> the D7100 icm profile: the result is quite nice, but there is always a
> light green tint.
>
> On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:13:36 +, Colin Adams
> wrote :
>
> > Yes, those were the names I saw too (except 810 rather than 7200 of
> > course).
> >
> > On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 at 19:42 Saint Germain wrote:
> >
> > > I tried today to generate the icm profile for my D7200.
> > > First ViewNX 2 is not compatible with D7200, so I had to use Capture
> > > NX-D, however the process is otherwise identical.
> > >
> > > Generating the jpeg for one single nef file, I got as a result 5 icm
> > > files:
> > > - 4 starting with Nkx_D7200_xxx
> > > - 1 starting with the name Nkx_LinearYcc.icm
> > >
> > > After remove the duplicates, I ended up with 4 different icm
> > > profiles.
> > > - 3 have the colorspace YCbCr and could not be used by darktable
> > > ("unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear Rec709
> > > RGB!").
> > > - 1 has the colorspace RGB and could be used by darktable but I
> > > got completely incorrect color (like it was the negative of the
> > > picture, like in old times).
> > >
> > > Usuing gcm-view I have exactly the same result as Colin (error on
> > > the one with colorspace RGB).
> > >
> > > So it seems that I can not use this method to generate an input
> > > profile for my D7200 ?
> > > Or have I done something wrong ?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 06:26:39 +, Colin Adams
> > > wrote :
> > >
> > > > OK, thanks.
> > > > I did that and then used gcm-view to see if there were any
> > > > problems. All of them except one were colorspace YCbCr and no
> > > > problems were reported. One was colorspace RGB and has the
> > > > problem "The profile has the following problems:
> > > > • A scum dot is present for media white".
> > > >
> > > > So "unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear Rec709
> > > > RGB!" from darktable is presumably because it is not supporting
> > > > the YCbCr colorspace. Would that be correct? And if so, is there
> > > > a way to convert to another colorspace?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 22:04 Bernhard
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > either you double-click in Nautilus or Nemo or type
> > > > >
> > > > > bash$ gcm-import
> > > > >
> > > > > in a terminal and you should see the attached dialog, you click
> > > > > "view details" and can start investigating ...
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > regards
> > > > > Bernhard
> > > > > http://www.bilddateien.de
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Colin Adams schrieb am 02.08.2016 um 21:54:
> > > > >
> > > > > What's the command to open a .icm file in gnome-color-manager?
> > > > > I'd like to look at one of my Nikon D810 files.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 20:37 Bernhard
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I opened this in gnome color manager and viewed the profile.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It gives the following remarks:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The profile has the following problems:
> > > > >> • The white of the output medium is distorted by blobs of color
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Nevertheless it's interesting to view the gamut and color
> > > > >> curves of the profile ...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> DispCalGUI refuses to open the files.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >>
> > > > >> regards
> > > > >> Bernhard
> > > > >> http://www.bilddateien.de
> > > > >>
> > > > >> André Felipe Carvalho schrieb am 02.08.2016 um 21:16:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hello,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've following this thread with great interest, since I have a
> > > > >> Nikon 7200 and I was even thinking about developing from jpegs
> > > > >> instead of raws.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Could you please instruct me with what to do with those .icm
> > > > >> files? e.g., where to put it in my system. I know it's for the
> > > > >> D7100, but since Saint Germain reccomended it, I would like to
> > > > >> git it a try.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And about the generation of .icm files specifically for the
> > > > >> D7200, if someone could send them to me, I would greatly
> > > > >> appreciate it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thank you in advance!
> > > > >> André Felipe
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2016-08-01 21:59 GMT-03:00 Saint Germain :
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hello,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I've tried your profiles with my D7200, and I can confirm
> > > > >>> that the results are much closer to the camera jpeg.
> > > > >>> I can see a slight blue/green cast and the colors are less
> > > > >>> saturated, but it's a much better starting
Re: [darktable-user] A better starting-point for Nikon RAW-files
Hi,
I do not know MacOS, but the trick is to search for files named *.icm,
and changed/modified within the last minutes. I am sure this is possible
on a Mac, but don't know how! Good luck.
Regards,
Vidar Hoel
On 10. aug. 2016 16:10, Johann Spies wrote:
View NX2 also runs on Apple. As I do not have Windows, I have tried to
do the same on the Macbook, but I could not find the temporary files.
Does somebody know where to find them on the Mac?
Regards
Johann
On 7 August 2016 at 16:06, Saint Germain mailto:saint...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I tried also with rawtherapee, and I can use the icm profiles without
any problem, so there may be something wrong with darktable.
However with rawtherapee, the results is the same as with darktable and
the D7100 icm profile: the result is quite nice, but there is always a
light green tint.
On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:13:36 +, Colin Adams
mailto:colinpaulad...@gmail.com>> wrote :
> Yes, those were the names I saw too (except 810 rather than 7200 of
> course).
>
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 at 19:42 Saint Germain mailto:saint...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > I tried today to generate the icm profile for my D7200.
> > First ViewNX 2 is not compatible with D7200, so I had to use Capture
> > NX-D, however the process is otherwise identical.
> >
> > Generating the jpeg for one single nef file, I got as a result 5 icm
> > files:
> > - 4 starting with Nkx_D7200_xxx
> > - 1 starting with the name Nkx_LinearYcc.icm
> >
> > After remove the duplicates, I ended up with 4 different icm
> > profiles.
> > - 3 have the colorspace YCbCr and could not be used by darktable
> > ("unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear Rec709
> > RGB!").
> > - 1 has the colorspace RGB and could be used by darktable but I
> > got completely incorrect color (like it was the negative of the
> > picture, like in old times).
> >
> > Usuing gcm-view I have exactly the same result as Colin (error on
> > the one with colorspace RGB).
> >
> > So it seems that I can not use this method to generate an input
> > profile for my D7200 ?
> > Or have I done something wrong ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 06:26:39 +, Colin Adams
> > mailto:colinpaulad...@gmail.com>> wrote :
> >
> > > OK, thanks.
> > > I did that and then used gcm-view to see if there were any
> > > problems. All of them except one were colorspace YCbCr and no
> > > problems were reported. One was colorspace RGB and has the
> > > problem "The profile has the following problems:
> > > • A scum dot is present for media white".
> > >
> > > So "unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear Rec709
> > > RGB!" from darktable is presumably because it is not supporting
> > > the YCbCr colorspace. Would that be correct? And if so, is there
> > > a way to convert to another colorspace?
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 22:04 Bernhard
> > > mailto:darkta...@intervalsignals.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > either you double-click in Nautilus or Nemo or type
> > > >
> > > > bash$ gcm-import
> > > >
> > > > in a terminal and you should see the attached dialog, you click
> > > > "view details" and can start investigating ...
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > Bernhard
> > > > http://www.bilddateien.de
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Colin Adams schrieb am 02.08.2016 um 21:54:
> > > >
> > > > What's the command to open a .icm file in gnome-color-manager?
> > > > I'd like to look at one of my Nikon D810 files.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 20:37 Bernhard
> > > > mailto:darkta...@intervalsignals.org>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I opened this in gnome color manager and viewed the profile.
> > > >>
> > > >> It gives the following remarks:
> > > >>
> > > >> The profile has the following problems:
> > > >> • The white of the output medium is distorted by blobs of color
> > > >>
> > > >> Nevertheless it's interesting to view the gamut and color
> > > >> curves of the profile ...
> > > >>
> > > >> DispCalGUI refuses to open the files.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >>
> > > >> regards
> > > >> Bernhard
> > > >> http://www.bilddateien.de
> > > >>
> > > >> André Felipe Carvalho schrieb am 02.08.2016 um 21:16:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> I've following this thread with great interest, since I have a
> > > >> Nikon 7200 and I was even thinking about developing from jpegs
> > > >> instead of raws.
> > > >>
> > > >> Could you please instruct me with what to do with those .icm
> > > >> files? e.g., where to put it in my system. I know it's for the
> > > >> D7100, but since Saint Germain reccomended it, I woul
Re: [darktable-user] A better starting-point for Nikon RAW-files
Hello,
Maybe into some temp folder within the user's folder after allowing viewing
hiden folders ?
Rgrds,
J.-Luc
> Message du 10/08/16 16:57
> De : "Vidar Hoel"
> A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
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> Objet : Re: [darktable-user] A better starting-point for Nikon RAW-files
>
> Hi,
>
> I do not know MacOS, but the trick is to search for files named *.icm,
> and changed/modified within the last minutes. I am sure this is possible
> on a Mac, but don't know how! Good luck.
>
> Regards,
> Vidar Hoel
>
> On 10. aug. 2016 16:10, Johann Spies wrote:
> > View NX2 also runs on Apple. As I do not have Windows, I have tried to
> > do the same on the Macbook, but I could not find the temporary files.
> > Does somebody know where to find them on the Mac?
> >
> > Regards
> > Johann
> >
> > On 7 August 2016 at 16:06, Saint Germain > > wrote:
> >
> > I tried also with rawtherapee, and I can use the icm profiles without
> > any problem, so there may be something wrong with darktable.
> >
> > However with rawtherapee, the results is the same as with darktable and
> > the D7100 icm profile: the result is quite nice, but there is always a
> > light green tint.
> >
> > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:13:36 +, Colin Adams
> > > wrote :
> >
> > > Yes, those were the names I saw too (except 810 rather than 7200 of
> > > course).
> > >
> > > On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 at 19:42 Saint Germain > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I tried today to generate the icm profile for my D7200.
> > > > First ViewNX 2 is not compatible with D7200, so I had to use Capture
> > > > NX-D, however the process is otherwise identical.
> > > >
> > > > Generating the jpeg for one single nef file, I got as a result 5 icm
> > > > files:
> > > > - 4 starting with Nkx_D7200_xxx
> > > > - 1 starting with the name Nkx_LinearYcc.icm
> > > >
> > > > After remove the duplicates, I ended up with 4 different icm
> > > > profiles.
> > > > - 3 have the colorspace YCbCr and could not be used by darktable
> > > > ("unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear Rec709
> > > > RGB!").
> > > > - 1 has the colorspace RGB and could be used by darktable but I
> > > > got completely incorrect color (like it was the negative of the
> > > > picture, like in old times).
> > > >
> > > > Usuing gcm-view I have exactly the same result as Colin (error on
> > > > the one with colorspace RGB).
> > > >
> > > > So it seems that I can not use this method to generate an input
> > > > profile for my D7200 ?
> > > > Or have I done something wrong ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 06:26:39 +, Colin Adams
> > > > > wrote :
> > > >
> > > > > OK, thanks.
> > > > > I did that and then used gcm-view to see if there were any
> > > > > problems. All of them except one were colorspace YCbCr and no
> > > > > problems were reported. One was colorspace RGB and has the
> > > > > problem "The profile has the following problems:
> > > > > • A scum dot is present for media white".
> > > > >
> > > > > So "unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear Rec709
> > > > > RGB!" from darktable is presumably because it is not supporting
> > > > > the YCbCr colorspace. Would that be correct? And if so, is there
> > > > > a way to convert to another colorspace?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 22:04 Bernhard
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > either you double-click in Nautilus or Nemo or type
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bash$ gcm-import
> > > > > >
> > > > > > in a terminal and you should see the attached dialog, you click
> > > > > > "view details" and can start investigating ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards
> > > > > > Bernhard
> > > > > > http://www.bilddateien.de
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Colin Adams schrieb am 02.08.2016 um 21:54:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What's the command to open a .icm file in gnome-color-manager?
> > > > > > I'd like to look at one of my Nikon D810 files.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 20:37 Bernhard
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> I opened this in gnome color manager and viewed the profile.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> It gives the following remarks:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The profile has the following problems:
> > > > > >> • The white of the output medium is distorted by blobs of color
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Nevertheless it's interesting to view the gamut and color
> > > > > >> curves of the profile ...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> DispCalGUI refuses to open the files.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> regards
> > > > > >> Bernhard
> > > > > >> http://www.bilddateien.de
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> André Felipe Carvalho schrieb am 02.08.2016 um 21:16:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hello,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I've following this thread with great interest, since I have a
> > > > > >> Nikon 7200 and I was even thinking about developing from jpegs
> > > > > >> instead of raws.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Could you p
