View NX2 also runs on Apple. As I do not have Windows, I have tried to
do the same on the Macbook, but I could not find the temporary files.
Does somebody know where to find them on the Mac?
Regards
Johann
On 7 August 2016 at 16:06, Saint Germain <saint...@gmail.com
<mailto:saint...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I tried also with rawtherapee, and I can use the icm profiles without
any problem, so there may be something wrong with darktable.
However with rawtherapee, the results is the same as with darktable and
the D7100 icm profile: the result is quite nice, but there is always a
light green tint.
On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:13:36 +0000, Colin Adams
<colinpaulad...@gmail.com <mailto:colinpaulad...@gmail.com>> wrote :
> Yes, those were the names I saw too (except 810 rather than 7200 of
> course).
>
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 at 19:42 Saint Germain <saint...@gmail.com
<mailto:saint...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > I tried today to generate the icm profile for my D7200.
> > First ViewNX 2 is not compatible with D7200, so I had to use Capture
> > NX-D, however the process is otherwise identical.
> >
> > Generating the jpeg for one single nef file, I got as a result 5 icm
> > files:
> > - 4 starting with Nkx_D7200_xxx
> > - 1 starting with the name Nkx_LinearYcc.icm
> >
> > After remove the duplicates, I ended up with 4 different icm
> > profiles.
> > - 3 have the colorspace YCbCr and could not be used by darktable
> > ("unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear Rec709
> > RGB!").
> > - 1 has the colorspace RGB and could be used by darktable but I
> > got completely incorrect color (like it was the negative of the
> > picture, like in old times).
> >
> > Usuing gcm-view I have exactly the same result as Colin (error on
> > the one with colorspace RGB).
> >
> > So it seems that I can not use this method to generate an input
> > profile for my D7200 ?
> > Or have I done something wrong ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 06:26:39 +0000, Colin Adams
> > <colinpaulad...@gmail.com <mailto:colinpaulad...@gmail.com>> wrote :
> >
> > > OK, thanks.
> > > I did that and then used gcm-view to see if there were any
> > > problems. All of them except one were colorspace YCbCr and no
> > > problems were reported. One was colorspace RGB and has the
> > > problem "The profile has the following problems:
> > > • A scum dot is present for media white".
> > >
> > > So "unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear Rec709
> > > RGB!" from darktable is presumably because it is not supporting
> > > the YCbCr colorspace. Would that be correct? And if so, is there
> > > a way to convert to another colorspace?
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 22:04 Bernhard
> > > <darkta...@intervalsignals.org
<mailto:darkta...@intervalsignals.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > either you double-click in Nautilus or Nemo or type
> > > >
> > > > bash$ gcm-import <filepath>
> > > >
> > > > in a terminal and you should see the attached dialog, you click
> > > > "view details" and can start investigating ...
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > Bernhard
> > > > http://www.bilddateien.de
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Colin Adams schrieb am 02.08.2016 um 21:54:
> > > >
> > > > What's the command to open a .icm file in gnome-color-manager?
> > > > I'd like to look at one of my Nikon D810 files.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 20:37 Bernhard
> > > > <darkta...@intervalsignals.org
<mailto:darkta...@intervalsignals.org>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I opened this in gnome color manager and viewed the profile.
> > > >>
> > > >> It gives the following remarks:
> > > >>
> > > >> The profile has the following problems:
> > > >> • The white of the output medium is distorted by blobs of color
> > > >>
> > > >> Nevertheless it's interesting to view the gamut and color
> > > >> curves of the profile ...
> > > >>
> > > >> DispCalGUI refuses to open the files.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >>
> > > >> regards
> > > >> Bernhard
> > > >> http://www.bilddateien.de
> > > >>
> > > >> André Felipe Carvalho schrieb am 02.08.2016 um 21:16:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> I've following this thread with great interest, since I have a
> > > >> Nikon 7200 and I was even thinking about developing from jpegs
> > > >> instead of raws.
> > > >>
> > > >> Could you please instruct me with what to do with those .icm
> > > >> files? e.g., where to put it in my system. I know it's for the
> > > >> D7100, but since Saint Germain reccomended it, I would like to
> > > >> git it a try.
> > > >>
> > > >> And about the generation of .icm files specifically for the
> > > >> D7200, if someone could send them to me, I would greatly
> > > >> appreciate it.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you in advance!
> > > >> André Felipe
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2016-08-01 21:59 GMT-03:00 Saint Germain
<saint...@gmail.com <mailto:saint...@gmail.com>>:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hello,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've tried your profiles with my D7200, and I can confirm
> > > >>> that the results are much closer to the camera jpeg.
> > > >>> I can see a slight blue/green cast and the colors are less
> > > >>> saturated, but it's a much better starting point than the base
> > > >>> curve.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'll have to generate my own profiles to be sure (perhaps
> > > >>> D7200 is a bit different from D7100 ?).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks to Edgardo and Vidar !
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 15:10:22 -0300, Edgardo Hoszowski
> > > >>> <edgardo.hoszow...@gmail.com
<mailto:edgardo.hoszow...@gmail.com>> wrote :
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Sure, see attached
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 2016-08-01 5:46 GMT-03:00 Rafa García
> > > >>> > <conta...@rafagarcia.net <mailto:conta...@rafagarcia.net>>:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > > Hi Edgardo,
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > I wrote you related about 7100 icc profiles. I have a
> > > >>> > > mac updated to capitan and I couldn't install view NX 2 to
> > > >>> > > generate the profiles.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > Could you send me your 7100 generated profiles?
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > Thanks!
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > 2016-07-31 19:13 GMT+02:00 Edgardo Hoszowski
> > > >>> > > <edgardo.hoszow...@gmail.com
<mailto:edgardo.hoszow...@gmail.com>> :
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >> Same here with a D5100, with a D7100 all went fine, I
> > > >>> > >> have 2 or 3 different profiles that give different
> > > >>> > >> colors cast, but so far there's always one closer to the
> > > >>> > >> camera jpg. Using the D7100 profiles on a D5100 raw
> > > >>> > >> seems ok too, much closer to the camera jpg.
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> 2016-07-31 8:18 GMT-03:00 Colin Adams
> > > >>> > >> <colinpaulad...@gmail.com
<mailto:colinpaulad...@gmail.com>>:
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >>> So I tried this (I have a Nikon D810).
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>> When selecting any of the generated icc profiles except
> > > >>> > >>> the last one, I get a message:
> > > >>> > >>> "unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear
> > > >>> > >>> Rec709 RGB!" So I selected the last one, and set unbreak
> > > >>> > >>> input profile to 0.0 as you instruct.
> > > >>> > >>> The resulting image indeed looks to have slightly better
> > > >>> > >>> quality, but it has a green cast.
> > > >>> > >>> This is with darktable 2.0.5-1 rather than 2.0.4. I'm
> > > >>> > >>> doubtful if that should be making the difference though.
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 at 15:39 Jean-Luc CECCOLI <
> > > >>> > >>> jean-luc.cecc...@wanadoo.fr
<mailto:jean-luc.cecc...@wanadoo.fr>> wrote:
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>>> Hello,
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>> Very interesting.
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>> Thanks for sharing.
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>> Rgds,
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>> J.-Luc
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>> > Message du 26/07/16 20:41
> > > >>> > >>>> > De : "Vidar Hoel" <vidar.h...@sysrq.info
<mailto:vidar.h...@sysrq.info>>
> > > >>> > >>>> > A : "Jean-Luc CECCOLI"
<jean-luc.cecc...@wanadoo.fr <mailto:jean-luc.cecc...@wanadoo.fr>>,
> > > >>> > >>>> darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
<mailto:darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>
> > > >>> > >>>> > Copie à :
> > > >>> > >>>> > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] A better starting-point
> > > >>> > >>>> > for Nikon
> > > >>> > >>>> RAW-files
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>>
> > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > >>> > >>>> > On 26. juli 2016 20:16, Jean-Luc CECCOLI wrote:
> > > >>> > >>>> > > Hello,
> > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > >>> > >>>> > Hi!
> > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > Just one thing that puzzles me : Nikon ViewNX2
> > > >>> > >>>> > > generates a profile
> > > >>> > >>>> for
> > > >>> > >>>> > > each picture it processes, so each
> > > >>> > >>>> > > profile is based upon the parameters of this
> > > >>> > >>>> > > picture.
> > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > >>> > >>>> > Almost. It generates a different profile for each
> > > >>> > >>>> > camera setting (it seems like). So of mine 98
> > > >>> > >>>> > pictures, I got 10 different profiles.
> > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > That would mean that, for each picture, one would
> > > >>> > >>>> > > have to use the corresponding imported profile,
> > > >>> > >>>> > > else one might get even worse results than using
> > > >>> > >>>> > > the DT dedicated basecurve, isn't it ?
> > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > >>> > >>>> > After applying all 10 different profiles to the same
> > > >>> > >>>> > image, I
> > > >>> > >>>> discovered
> > > >>> > >>>> > it was only minor differences, and so small I can
> > > >>> > >>>> > neglect them. I
> > > >>> > >>>> have
> > > >>> > >>>> > never seen them make a worse result than the
> > > >>> > >>>> > dedicated base curves.
> > > >>> > >>>> But
> > > >>> > >>>> > this is a subjective observation!
> > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > >>> > >>>> > Regards,
> > > >>> > >>>> > Vidar Hoel
> > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > That said, I think that that is the way profiles
> > > >>> > >>>> > > work...
> > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > Regards,
> > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > J.-Luc
> > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > Message du 26/07/16 18:45
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > De : "Vidar Hoel" <vidar.h...@sysrq.info
<mailto:vidar.h...@sysrq.info>>
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
<mailto:darktable-user@lists.darktable.org>
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > Copie à :
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > Objet : [darktable-user] A better starting-point
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > for Nikon
> > > >>> > >>>> RAW-files
> > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > Hi,
> > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > some time ago I noticed that the JPGs from my
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > Nikon were better
> > > >>> > >>>> then
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > what I could achieve from processing the RAW-file
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > (NEF) in
> > > >>> > >>>> Darktable.
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > After some digging on the Internet, I figured
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > out I could use an alternative to the default
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > base-curves in Darktable
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > - and that
> > > >>> > >>>> > > made me
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > get a better starting-point when processing my
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > Nikon RAW-files
> > > >>> > >>>> (and I
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > was able to achieve a better image than the JPGs
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > from my camera!)
> > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > Today I finished a step-by-step video of what I
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > did, so anyone can
> > > >>> > >>>> > > see,
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > learn and perhaps do it themselves.
> > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > Some notes before viewing:
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > - I am not really sure behind the technology
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > behind this. I am not
> > > >>> > >>>> > > sure
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > if a Nikon RAW-file has a profile embedded, but
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > it seems so.
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > - I am not sure if there is an other way to
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > achieve this is
> > > >>> > >>>> Darktable?
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > - As explained in the video, you will need
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > Windows, or a friends
> > > >>> > >>>> > > laptop
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > with Windows, once, to make this work.
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > - My native language is not English :-)
> > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > https://youtu.be/O1nS3URVSYA
> > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > Enjoy :-)
> > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > Best regards,
> > > >>> > >>>> > > > Vidar Hoel
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