Hello,

 

Maybe into some temp folder within the user's folder after allowing viewing 
hiden folders ?

 

Rgrds,

 

J.-Luc

 

 

 

 

> Message du 10/08/16 16:57
> De : "Vidar Hoel" 
> A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
> Copie à : 
> Objet : Re: [darktable-user] A better starting-point for Nikon RAW-files
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I do not know MacOS, but the trick is to search for files named *.icm, 
> and changed/modified within the last minutes. I am sure this is possible 
> on a Mac, but don't know how! Good luck.
> 
> Regards,
> Vidar Hoel
> 
> On 10. aug. 2016 16:10, Johann Spies wrote:
> > View NX2 also runs on Apple. As I do not have Windows, I have tried to
> > do the same on the Macbook, but I could not find the temporary files.
> > Does somebody know where to find them on the Mac?
> >
> > Regards
> > Johann
> >
> > On 7 August 2016 at 16:06, Saint Germain  > > wrote:
> >
> > I tried also with rawtherapee, and I can use the icm profiles without
> > any problem, so there may be something wrong with darktable.
> >
> > However with rawtherapee, the results is the same as with darktable and
> > the D7100 icm profile: the result is quite nice, but there is always a
> > light green tint.
> >
> > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:13:36 +0000, Colin Adams
> > > wrote :
> >
> > > Yes, those were the names I saw too (except 810 rather than 7200 of
> > > course).
> > >
> > > On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 at 19:42 Saint Germain  > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I tried today to generate the icm profile for my D7200.
> > > > First ViewNX 2 is not compatible with D7200, so I had to use Capture
> > > > NX-D, however the process is otherwise identical.
> > > >
> > > > Generating the jpeg for one single nef file, I got as a result 5 icm
> > > > files:
> > > > - 4 starting with Nkx_D7200_xxx
> > > > - 1 starting with the name Nkx_LinearYcc.icm
> > > >
> > > > After remove the duplicates, I ended up with 4 different icm
> > > > profiles.
> > > > - 3 have the colorspace YCbCr and could not be used by darktable
> > > > ("unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear Rec709
> > > > RGB!").
> > > > - 1 has the colorspace RGB and could be used by darktable but I
> > > > got completely incorrect color (like it was the negative of the
> > > > picture, like in old times).
> > > >
> > > > Usuing gcm-view I have exactly the same result as Colin (error on
> > > > the one with colorspace RGB).
> > > >
> > > > So it seems that I can not use this method to generate an input
> > > > profile for my D7200 ?
> > > > Or have I done something wrong ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 06:26:39 +0000, Colin Adams
> > > > > wrote :
> > > >
> > > > > OK, thanks.
> > > > > I did that and then used gcm-view to see if there were any
> > > > > problems. All of them except one were colorspace YCbCr and no
> > > > > problems were reported. One was colorspace RGB and has the
> > > > > problem "The profile has the following problems:
> > > > > • A scum dot is present for media white".
> > > > >
> > > > > So "unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear Rec709
> > > > > RGB!" from darktable is presumably because it is not supporting
> > > > > the YCbCr colorspace. Would that be correct? And if so, is there
> > > > > a way to convert to another colorspace?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 22:04 Bernhard
> > > > >  > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > either you double-click in Nautilus or Nemo or type
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bash$ gcm-import 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > in a terminal and you should see the attached dialog, you click
> > > > > > "view details" and can start investigating ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards
> > > > > > Bernhard
> > > > > > http://www.bilddateien.de
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Colin Adams schrieb am 02.08.2016 um 21:54:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What's the command to open a .icm file in gnome-color-manager?
> > > > > > I'd like to look at one of my Nikon D810 files.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 20:37 Bernhard
> > > > > >  > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> I opened this in gnome color manager and viewed the profile.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> It gives the following remarks:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The profile has the following problems:
> > > > > >> • The white of the output medium is distorted by blobs of color
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Nevertheless it's interesting to view the gamut and color
> > > > > >> curves of the profile ...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> DispCalGUI refuses to open the files.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> regards
> > > > > >> Bernhard
> > > > > >> http://www.bilddateien.de
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> André Felipe Carvalho schrieb am 02.08.2016 um 21:16:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hello,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I've following this thread with great interest, since I have a
> > > > > >> Nikon 7200 and I was even thinking about developing from jpegs
> > > > > >> instead of raws.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Could you please instruct me with what to do with those .icm
> > > > > >> files? e.g., where to put it in my system. I know it's for the
> > > > > >> D7100, but since Saint Germain reccomended it, I would like to
> > > > > >> git it a try.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> And about the generation of .icm files specifically for the
> > > > > >> D7200, if someone could send them to me, I would greatly
> > > > > >> appreciate it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thank you in advance!
> > > > > >> André Felipe
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2016-08-01 21:59 GMT-03:00 Saint Germain
> > >:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hello,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I've tried your profiles with my D7200, and I can confirm
> > > > > >>> that the results are much closer to the camera jpeg.
> > > > > >>> I can see a slight blue/green cast and the colors are less
> > > > > >>> saturated, but it's a much better starting point than the base
> > > > > >>> curve.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'll have to generate my own profiles to be sure (perhaps
> > > > > >>> D7200 is a bit different from D7100 ?).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks to Edgardo and Vidar !
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 15:10:22 -0300, Edgardo Hoszowski
> > > > > >>>  > > wrote :
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> > Sure, see attached
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > 2016-08-01 5:46 GMT-03:00 Rafa García
> > > > > >>> > >:
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > > Hi Edgardo,
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > > I wrote you related about 7100 icc profiles. I have a
> > > > > >>> > > mac updated to capitan and I couldn't install view NX 2 to
> > > > > >>> > > generate the profiles.
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > > Could you send me your 7100 generated profiles?
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > > Thanks!
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > > 2016-07-31 19:13 GMT+02:00 Edgardo Hoszowski
> > > > > >>> > >  > > :
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >> Same here with a D5100, with a D7100 all went fine, I
> > > > > >>> > >> have 2 or 3 different profiles that give different
> > > > > >>> > >> colors cast, but so far there's always one closer to the
> > > > > >>> > >> camera jpg. Using the D7100 profiles on a D5100 raw
> > > > > >>> > >> seems ok too, much closer to the camera jpg.
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> 2016-07-31 8:18 GMT-03:00 Colin Adams
> > > > > >>> > >>  > >:
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >>> So I tried this (I have a Nikon D810).
> > > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > > >>> > >>> When selecting any of the generated icc profiles except
> > > > > >>> > >>> the last one, I get a message:
> > > > > >>> > >>> "unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear
> > > > > >>> > >>> Rec709 RGB!" So I selected the last one, and set unbreak
> > > > > >>> > >>> input profile to 0.0 as you instruct.
> > > > > >>> > >>> The resulting image indeed looks to have slightly better
> > > > > >>> > >>> quality, but it has a green cast.
> > > > > >>> > >>> This is with darktable 2.0.5-1 rather than 2.0.4. I'm
> > > > > >>> > >>> doubtful if that should be making the difference though.
> > > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > > >>> > >>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 at 15:39 Jean-Luc CECCOLI <
> > > > > >>> > >>> jean-luc.cecc...@wanadoo.fr
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>> Hello,
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>> Very interesting.
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>> Thanks for sharing.
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>> Rgds,
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>> J.-Luc
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > Message du 26/07/16 20:41
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > De : "Vidar Hoel"  > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > A : "Jean-Luc CECCOLI"
> > >,
> > > > > >>> > >>>> darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
> > 
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > Copie à :
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] A better starting-point
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > for Nikon
> > > > > >>> > >>>> RAW-files
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > On 26. juli 2016 20:16, Jean-Luc CECCOLI wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > Hello,
> > > > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > Hi!
> > > > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > Just one thing that puzzles me : Nikon ViewNX2
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > generates a profile
> > > > > >>> > >>>> for
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > each picture it processes, so each
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > profile is based upon the parameters of this
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > picture.
> > > > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > Almost. It generates a different profile for each
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > camera setting (it seems like). So of mine 98
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > pictures, I got 10 different profiles.
> > > > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > That would mean that, for each picture, one would
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > have to use the corresponding imported profile,
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > else one might get even worse results than using
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > the DT dedicated basecurve, isn't it ?
> > > > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > After applying all 10 different profiles to the same
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > image, I
> > > > > >>> > >>>> discovered
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > it was only minor differences, and so small I can
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > neglect them. I
> > > > > >>> > >>>> have
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > never seen them make a worse result than the
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > dedicated base curves.
> > > > > >>> > >>>> But
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > this is a subjective observation!
> > > > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > Regards,
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > Vidar Hoel
> > > > > >>> > >>>> >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > That said, I think that that is the way profiles
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > work...
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > Regards,
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > J.-Luc
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Message du 26/07/16 18:45
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > De : "Vidar Hoel"  > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
> > 
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Copie à :
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Objet : [darktable-user] A better starting-point
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > for Nikon
> > > > > >>> > >>>> RAW-files
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Hi,
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > some time ago I noticed that the JPGs from my
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Nikon were better
> > > > > >>> > >>>> then
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > what I could achieve from processing the RAW-file
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > (NEF) in
> > > > > >>> > >>>> Darktable.
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > After some digging on the Internet, I figured
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > out I could use an alternative to the default
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > base-curves in Darktable
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > - and that
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > made me
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > get a better starting-point when processing my
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Nikon RAW-files
> > > > > >>> > >>>> (and I
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > was able to achieve a better image than the JPGs
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > from my camera!)
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Today I finished a step-by-step video of what I
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > did, so anyone can
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > see,
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > learn and perhaps do it themselves.
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Some notes before viewing:
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > - I am not really sure behind the technology
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > behind this. I am not
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > sure
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > if a Nikon RAW-file has a profile embedded, but
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > it seems so.
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > - I am not sure if there is an other way to
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > achieve this is
> > > > > >>> > >>>> Darktable?
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > - As explained in the video, you will need
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Windows, or a friends
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > laptop
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > with Windows, once, to make this work.
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > - My native language is not English :-)
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > https://youtu.be/O1nS3URVSYA
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Enjoy :-)
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > >
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Best regards,
> > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Vidar Hoel
> >
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