Hello,
Maybe into some temp folder within the user's folder after allowing viewing hiden folders ? Rgrds, J.-Luc > Message du 10/08/16 16:57 > De : "Vidar Hoel" > A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] A better starting-point for Nikon RAW-files > > Hi, > > I do not know MacOS, but the trick is to search for files named *.icm, > and changed/modified within the last minutes. I am sure this is possible > on a Mac, but don't know how! Good luck. > > Regards, > Vidar Hoel > > On 10. aug. 2016 16:10, Johann Spies wrote: > > View NX2 also runs on Apple. As I do not have Windows, I have tried to > > do the same on the Macbook, but I could not find the temporary files. > > Does somebody know where to find them on the Mac? > > > > Regards > > Johann > > > > On 7 August 2016 at 16:06, Saint Germain > > wrote: > > > > I tried also with rawtherapee, and I can use the icm profiles without > > any problem, so there may be something wrong with darktable. > > > > However with rawtherapee, the results is the same as with darktable and > > the D7100 icm profile: the result is quite nice, but there is always a > > light green tint. > > > > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:13:36 +0000, Colin Adams > > > wrote : > > > > > Yes, those were the names I saw too (except 810 rather than 7200 of > > > course). > > > > > > On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 at 19:42 Saint Germain > > wrote: > > > > > > > I tried today to generate the icm profile for my D7200. > > > > First ViewNX 2 is not compatible with D7200, so I had to use Capture > > > > NX-D, however the process is otherwise identical. > > > > > > > > Generating the jpeg for one single nef file, I got as a result 5 icm > > > > files: > > > > - 4 starting with Nkx_D7200_xxx > > > > - 1 starting with the name Nkx_LinearYcc.icm > > > > > > > > After remove the duplicates, I ended up with 4 different icm > > > > profiles. > > > > - 3 have the colorspace YCbCr and could not be used by darktable > > > > ("unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear Rec709 > > > > RGB!"). > > > > - 1 has the colorspace RGB and could be used by darktable but I > > > > got completely incorrect color (like it was the negative of the > > > > picture, like in old times). > > > > > > > > Usuing gcm-view I have exactly the same result as Colin (error on > > > > the one with colorspace RGB). > > > > > > > > So it seems that I can not use this method to generate an input > > > > profile for my D7200 ? > > > > Or have I done something wrong ? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 06:26:39 +0000, Colin Adams > > > > > wrote : > > > > > > > > > OK, thanks. > > > > > I did that and then used gcm-view to see if there were any > > > > > problems. All of them except one were colorspace YCbCr and no > > > > > problems were reported. One was colorspace RGB and has the > > > > > problem "The profile has the following problems: > > > > > • A scum dot is present for media white". > > > > > > > > > > So "unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear Rec709 > > > > > RGB!" from darktable is presumably because it is not supporting > > > > > the YCbCr colorspace. Would that be correct? And if so, is there > > > > > a way to convert to another colorspace? > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 22:04 Bernhard > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > either you double-click in Nautilus or Nemo or type > > > > > > > > > > > > bash$ gcm-import > > > > > > > > > > > > in a terminal and you should see the attached dialog, you click > > > > > > "view details" and can start investigating ... > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Bernhard > > > > > > http://www.bilddateien.de > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Colin Adams schrieb am 02.08.2016 um 21:54: > > > > > > > > > > > > What's the command to open a .icm file in gnome-color-manager? > > > > > > I'd like to look at one of my Nikon D810 files. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 20:37 Bernhard > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> I opened this in gnome color manager and viewed the profile. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> It gives the following remarks: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The profile has the following problems: > > > > > >> • The white of the output medium is distorted by blobs of color > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Nevertheless it's interesting to view the gamut and color > > > > > >> curves of the profile ... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> DispCalGUI refuses to open the files. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> > > > > > >> regards > > > > > >> Bernhard > > > > > >> http://www.bilddateien.de > > > > > >> > > > > > >> André Felipe Carvalho schrieb am 02.08.2016 um 21:16: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hello, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I've following this thread with great interest, since I have a > > > > > >> Nikon 7200 and I was even thinking about developing from jpegs > > > > > >> instead of raws. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Could you please instruct me with what to do with those .icm > > > > > >> files? e.g., where to put it in my system. I know it's for the > > > > > >> D7100, but since Saint Germain reccomended it, I would like to > > > > > >> git it a try. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> And about the generation of .icm files specifically for the > > > > > >> D7200, if someone could send them to me, I would greatly > > > > > >> appreciate it. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thank you in advance! > > > > > >> André Felipe > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> 2016-08-01 21:59 GMT-03:00 Saint Germain > > >: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> Hello, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I've tried your profiles with my D7200, and I can confirm > > > > > >>> that the results are much closer to the camera jpeg. > > > > > >>> I can see a slight blue/green cast and the colors are less > > > > > >>> saturated, but it's a much better starting point than the base > > > > > >>> curve. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I'll have to generate my own profiles to be sure (perhaps > > > > > >>> D7200 is a bit different from D7100 ?). > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Thanks to Edgardo and Vidar ! > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 15:10:22 -0300, Edgardo Hoszowski > > > > > >>> > > wrote : > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Sure, see attached > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 2016-08-01 5:46 GMT-03:00 Rafa García > > > > > >>> > >: > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > Hi Edgardo, > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > I wrote you related about 7100 icc profiles. I have a > > > > > >>> > > mac updated to capitan and I couldn't install view NX 2 to > > > > > >>> > > generate the profiles. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > Could you send me your 7100 generated profiles? > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > Thanks! > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > 2016-07-31 19:13 GMT+02:00 Edgardo Hoszowski > > > > > >>> > > > > : > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > >> Same here with a D5100, with a D7100 all went fine, I > > > > > >>> > >> have 2 or 3 different profiles that give different > > > > > >>> > >> colors cast, but so far there's always one closer to the > > > > > >>> > >> camera jpg. Using the D7100 profiles on a D5100 raw > > > > > >>> > >> seems ok too, much closer to the camera jpg. > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > >>> > >> 2016-07-31 8:18 GMT-03:00 Colin Adams > > > > > >>> > >> > >: > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > >>> > >>> So I tried this (I have a Nikon D810). > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> When selecting any of the generated icc profiles except > > > > > >>> > >>> the last one, I get a message: > > > > > >>> > >>> "unsupported input profile has been replaced by linear > > > > > >>> > >>> Rec709 RGB!" So I selected the last one, and set unbreak > > > > > >>> > >>> input profile to 0.0 as you instruct. > > > > > >>> > >>> The resulting image indeed looks to have slightly better > > > > > >>> > >>> quality, but it has a green cast. > > > > > >>> > >>> This is with darktable 2.0.5-1 rather than 2.0.4. I'm > > > > > >>> > >>> doubtful if that should be making the difference though. > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 at 15:39 Jean-Luc CECCOLI < > > > > > >>> > >>> jean-luc.cecc...@wanadoo.fr > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> Hello, > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> Very interesting. > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> Thanks for sharing. > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> Rgds, > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> J.-Luc > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > Message du 26/07/16 20:41 > > > > > >>> > >>>> > De : "Vidar Hoel" > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > A : "Jean-Luc CECCOLI" > > >, > > > > > >>> > >>>> darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > Copie à : > > > > > >>> > >>>> > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] A better starting-point > > > > > >>> > >>>> > for Nikon > > > > > >>> > >>>> RAW-files > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > On 26. juli 2016 20:16, Jean-Luc CECCOLI wrote: > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > Hello, > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > Hi! > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > Just one thing that puzzles me : Nikon ViewNX2 > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > generates a profile > > > > > >>> > >>>> for > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > each picture it processes, so each > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > profile is based upon the parameters of this > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > picture. > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > Almost. It generates a different profile for each > > > > > >>> > >>>> > camera setting (it seems like). So of mine 98 > > > > > >>> > >>>> > pictures, I got 10 different profiles. > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > That would mean that, for each picture, one would > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > have to use the corresponding imported profile, > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > else one might get even worse results than using > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > the DT dedicated basecurve, isn't it ? > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > After applying all 10 different profiles to the same > > > > > >>> > >>>> > image, I > > > > > >>> > >>>> discovered > > > > > >>> > >>>> > it was only minor differences, and so small I can > > > > > >>> > >>>> > neglect them. I > > > > > >>> > >>>> have > > > > > >>> > >>>> > never seen them make a worse result than the > > > > > >>> > >>>> > dedicated base curves. > > > > > >>> > >>>> But > > > > > >>> > >>>> > this is a subjective observation! > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > Regards, > > > > > >>> > >>>> > Vidar Hoel > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > That said, I think that that is the way profiles > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > work... > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > J.-Luc > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Message du 26/07/16 18:45 > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > De : "Vidar Hoel" > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Copie à : > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Objet : [darktable-user] A better starting-point > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > for Nikon > > > > > >>> > >>>> RAW-files > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Hi, > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > some time ago I noticed that the JPGs from my > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Nikon were better > > > > > >>> > >>>> then > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > what I could achieve from processing the RAW-file > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > (NEF) in > > > > > >>> > >>>> Darktable. > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > After some digging on the Internet, I figured > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > out I could use an alternative to the default > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > base-curves in Darktable > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > - and that > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > made me > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > get a better starting-point when processing my > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Nikon RAW-files > > > > > >>> > >>>> (and I > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > was able to achieve a better image than the JPGs > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > from my camera!) > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Today I finished a step-by-step video of what I > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > did, so anyone can > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > see, > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > learn and perhaps do it themselves. > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Some notes before viewing: > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > - I am not really sure behind the technology > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > behind this. I am not > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > sure > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > if a Nikon RAW-file has a profile embedded, but > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > it seems so. > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > - I am not sure if there is an other way to > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > achieve this is > > > > > >>> > >>>> Darktable? > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > - As explained in the video, you will need > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Windows, or a friends > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > laptop > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > with Windows, once, to make this work. > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > - My native language is not English :-) > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > https://youtu.be/O1nS3URVSYA > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Enjoy :-) > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Best regards, > > > > > >>> > >>>> > > > Vidar Hoel > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, > > my lips will praise you. 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