[darktable-user] How to export JPEG for web browsers correctly?

[Yuri]

Hello,
it's really frustrating but I can't get any usable export to JPEG.

I got Sony RAWs shot in sRGB, I wanna simply convert them straight to JPEG.
No module tweaking, etc. So I check the image in the 'darkroom' mode -
colors and saturation are perfect there.

Then I hit export (no style applied, etc.). Resulting JPEG has
oversaturated colors and is a bit darker then in the 'darkroom' mode when
viewed with: Android Flicker app, Linux Firefox, Linux Chromium, GNOME
Image Viewer, etc.

The only app which can display the exported JPEG correctly is GIMP, sure it
reports there was an embedid sRGB profile.

I've tried playing with Input/Output color profile modules - setting to
sRGB - but no luck. The gamut clipping set to sRGB did help a bit though.
My DT's display profile is set to sRGB too.

Output of darktable-cmstest:



darktable-cmstest version 2.4.3
this executable was built with colord support enabled
darktable itself was built with colord support enabled

primary CRTC is at CRTC 0
CRTC for screen 0 CRTC 1 has no mode or no output, skipping
CRTC for screen 0 CRTC 2 has no mode or no output, skipping

LVDS-1the X atom and colord returned the same profile
X atom:_ICC_PROFILE (1428 bytes)
description: ThinkPad T430
colord:"/home//.local/share/icc/edid-
1be6e0958dcbf558460fe50a8d95abc6.icc"
description: ThinkPad T430

Your system seems to be correctly configured



Is this trivial task really so hard to do properly? I mean - import,
export, Flickr should work intuitively, right?

I can provide RAW, JPEG + a shot of DT's 'darkroom'.

Thanks


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Re: [darktable-user] gimp and darktable plugin

[Maurizio Paglia]

@ François
Among the Lua scripts you should find one that let you export the edited
raw in GIMP.
This is quite similar to the behaviour you are looking for.
Maybe you can try it
Maurizio

Il mar 15 mag 2018, 04:45 Patrick Shanahan  ha scritto:

> * François Patte  [05-14-18 18:03]:
> > Le 14/05/2018 à 20:30, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :
> > > * François Patte  [05-14-18
> 14:01]:
> > >> Le 14/05/2018 à 17:18, Maurizio Paglia a écrit :
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> the plugin is GIMP 2.10 :-)
> > >>> You need GIMP 2.10 in order to open raw files using darktable from
> GIMP
> > >>
> > >> Thank you sir! I have gimp 2.10 (installed via flatpak), but when I
> want
> > >> to open a raw file it suggests to install a raw loader for darktable
> and
> > >> that's all! No more clue!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> 2018-05-14 17:14 GMT+02:00 François Patte
> > >>>  > >>> >:
> > >>>
> > >>> Bonjour,
> > >>>
> > >>> Where can I find the gimp plugin to use dartable from gimp for
> raw
> > >>> files?
> > >>>
> > >>> I could find a lot of people talking about this plugin, but none
> of them
> > >>> explain where to find it, how to install it and how to use it
> > >>>
> > >>> Thank you.
> > >>> --
> > >>> François Patte
> > >>> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> > >>> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> > >>> Université Paris Descartes
> > >>> 45, rue des Saints Pères
> > >>> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> > >>> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> > >>> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
> > >>> 
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> 
> > >>> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to
> > >>> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> François Patte
> > >> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> > >> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> > >> Université Paris Descartes
> > >> 45, rue des Saints Pères
> > >> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> > >> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> > >> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > the *clue* is probably "flatpak"
> >
> > More precisely?
>
> flatpak is not a "normal" system installation.  it is a collection of
> packages ment to bypass a systems installation requirements, to make a
> package that will run anywhere on any system.  ie: cutting corners.
>
> use a package that is built for your system, or update your system so you
> can utilize packages you wish.
>
> --
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Re: [darktable-user] Canon T6i CR2 in linux and windows 7

[Sergio Daniel Gomez]

Hi Patrick, this is the link to the original image
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UTDyZvEGp7x5_K2qr0blXo_mBOcq_bZ0

Thanks in advance.

Sergio

El mar., 15 de may. de 2018 a la(s) 00:23, Patrick Shanahan <
p...@opensuse.org> escribió:

> * Sergio Daniel Gomez  [05-14-18 22:54]:
> > Well. I tryed again with same result
> >
> > that is what darktable shows in console:
> >
> > (darktable:26928): dbind-WARNING **: 23:46:39.741: Couldn't register with
> > accessibility bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the
> > remote
> > application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked
> > the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was
> broken.
> > [rawspeed] (IMG_0024.CR2) rawspeed::JpegMarker
> > rawspeed::AbstractLJpegDecompressor::getNextMarker(bool), line 259:
> > (Noskip) Expected marker not found. Pro
> > pably corrupt file.
> > Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
> > Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
> > Unsupported marker type 0xae
> > Unsupported marker type 0xae
> > Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
> > [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
> > `IMG_0024.CR2'!
> > allocation failed???
> > Unsupported marker type 0xae
> > [rawspeed] (IMG_0027.CR2) rawspeed::JpegMarker
> > rawspeed::AbstractLJpegDecompressor::getNextMarker(bool), line 259:
> > (Noskip) Expected marker not found. Pro
> > pably corrupt file.
> > [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
> > `IMG_0027.CR2'!
> > allocation failed???
> > [rawspeed] (IMG_0026.CR2) rawspeed::JpegMarker
> > rawspeed::AbstractLJpegDecompressor::getNextMarker(bool), line 259:
> > (Noskip) Expected marker not found. Pro
> > pably corrupt file.
> > [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
> > `IMG_0026.CR2'!
> > allocation failed???
> > [rawspeed] (IMG_0018.CR2) rawspeed::JpegMarker
> > rawspeed::AbstractLJpegDecompressor::getNextMarker(bool), line 259:
> > (Noskip) Expected marker not found. Pro
> > pably corrupt file.
> > [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
> > `IMG_0018.CR2'!
> > [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
> > `IMG_0018.CR2'!
> > Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
> > Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
> > Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
> > Unsupported marker type 0xae
> > Unsupported marker type 0xae
> > Unsupported marker type 0xae
> >
> > I insist, I can open and edit this image (IMG_0018.CR2) with windows 7
> > version.
> >
> > What can I try now?
> > Thanks in advance
>
> post a copy of the original IMG_0018.CR2 to a file sharing service and
> provide the location.
>
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Re: [darktable-user] Canon T6i CR2 in linux and windows 7

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Sergio Daniel Gomez  [05-14-18 22:54]:
> Well. I tryed again with same result
> 
> that is what darktable shows in console:
> 
> (darktable:26928): dbind-WARNING **: 23:46:39.741: Couldn't register with
> accessibility bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the
> remote
> application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked
> the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
> [rawspeed] (IMG_0024.CR2) rawspeed::JpegMarker
> rawspeed::AbstractLJpegDecompressor::getNextMarker(bool), line 259:
> (Noskip) Expected marker not found. Pro
> pably corrupt file.
> Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
> Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
> Unsupported marker type 0xae
> Unsupported marker type 0xae
> Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
> [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
> `IMG_0024.CR2'!
> allocation failed???
> Unsupported marker type 0xae
> [rawspeed] (IMG_0027.CR2) rawspeed::JpegMarker
> rawspeed::AbstractLJpegDecompressor::getNextMarker(bool), line 259:
> (Noskip) Expected marker not found. Pro
> pably corrupt file.
> [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
> `IMG_0027.CR2'!
> allocation failed???
> [rawspeed] (IMG_0026.CR2) rawspeed::JpegMarker
> rawspeed::AbstractLJpegDecompressor::getNextMarker(bool), line 259:
> (Noskip) Expected marker not found. Pro
> pably corrupt file.
> [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
> `IMG_0026.CR2'!
> allocation failed???
> [rawspeed] (IMG_0018.CR2) rawspeed::JpegMarker
> rawspeed::AbstractLJpegDecompressor::getNextMarker(bool), line 259:
> (Noskip) Expected marker not found. Pro
> pably corrupt file.
> [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
> `IMG_0018.CR2'!
> [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
> `IMG_0018.CR2'!
> Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
> Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
> Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
> Unsupported marker type 0xae
> Unsupported marker type 0xae
> Unsupported marker type 0xae
> 
> I insist, I can open and edit this image (IMG_0018.CR2) with windows 7
> version.
> 
> What can I try now?
> Thanks in advance

post a copy of the original IMG_0018.CR2 to a file sharing service and
provide the location.

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Re: [darktable-user] Canon T6i CR2 in linux and windows 7

[Sergio Daniel Gomez]

Well. I tryed again with same result

that is what darktable shows in console:

(darktable:26928): dbind-WARNING **: 23:46:39.741: Couldn't register with
accessibility bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the
remote
application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked
the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[rawspeed] (IMG_0024.CR2) rawspeed::JpegMarker
rawspeed::AbstractLJpegDecompressor::getNextMarker(bool), line 259:
(Noskip) Expected marker not found. Pro
pably corrupt file.
Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
Unsupported marker type 0xae
Unsupported marker type 0xae
Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
[temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
`IMG_0024.CR2'!
allocation failed???
Unsupported marker type 0xae
[rawspeed] (IMG_0027.CR2) rawspeed::JpegMarker
rawspeed::AbstractLJpegDecompressor::getNextMarker(bool), line 259:
(Noskip) Expected marker not found. Pro
pably corrupt file.
[temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
`IMG_0027.CR2'!
allocation failed???
[rawspeed] (IMG_0026.CR2) rawspeed::JpegMarker
rawspeed::AbstractLJpegDecompressor::getNextMarker(bool), line 259:
(Noskip) Expected marker not found. Pro
pably corrupt file.
[temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
`IMG_0026.CR2'!
allocation failed???
[rawspeed] (IMG_0018.CR2) rawspeed::JpegMarker
rawspeed::AbstractLJpegDecompressor::getNextMarker(bool), line 259:
(Noskip) Expected marker not found. Pro
pably corrupt file.
[temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
`IMG_0018.CR2'!
[temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from
`IMG_0018.CR2'!
Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
Unsupported marker type 0xae
Unsupported marker type 0xae
Unsupported marker type 0xae

I insist, I can open and edit this image (IMG_0018.CR2) with windows 7
version.

What can I try now?
Thanks in advance

El dom., 13 de may. de 2018 a la(s) 11:49, Sergio Daniel Gomez <
sergio.sgsiste...@gmail.com> escribió:

> Thanks. I'll try again son.
>
> El dom., 13 de may. de 2018 11:02, Tobias Ellinghaus 
> escribió:
>
>> Am Sonntag, 13. Mai 2018, 13:10:32 CEST schrieb Sergio Daniel Gomez:
>> > I tryed first with debian packages, then with tar.xz, then compiling git
>> > source.
>>
>> When compiling from git, make sure to also update the rawspeed part of
>> the
>> sources (git submodule update).
>>
>> > The i copyed images to a windows 7, installed lasted darktable. Then
>> woks
>> > correctly.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>>
>> Tobias
>>
>> [...]
>
>


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Re: [darktable-user] gimp and darktable plugin

[Patrick Shanahan]

* François Patte  [05-14-18 18:03]:
> Le 14/05/2018 à 20:30, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :
> > * François Patte  [05-14-18 14:01]:
> >> Le 14/05/2018 à 17:18, Maurizio Paglia a écrit :
> >>> Hi,
> >>> the plugin is GIMP 2.10 :-)
> >>> You need GIMP 2.10 in order to open raw files using darktable from GIMP
> >>
> >> Thank you sir! I have gimp 2.10 (installed via flatpak), but when I want
> >> to open a raw file it suggests to install a raw loader for darktable and
> >> that's all! No more clue!
> >>
> >>
> >>> 2018-05-14 17:14 GMT+02:00 François Patte
> >>>  >>> >:
> >>>
> >>> Bonjour,
> >>>
> >>> Where can I find the gimp plugin to use dartable from gimp for raw
> >>> files?
> >>>
> >>> I could find a lot of people talking about this plugin, but none of 
> >>> them
> >>> explain where to find it, how to install it and how to use it
> >>>
> >>> Thank you.
> >>> -- 
> >>> François Patte
> >>> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> >>> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> >>> Université Paris Descartes
> >>> 45, rue des Saints Pères
> >>> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> >>> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> >>> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to
> >>> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> François Patte
> >> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> >> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> >> Université Paris Descartes
> >> 45, rue des Saints Pères
> >> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> >> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> >> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > the *clue* is probably "flatpak"
> 
> More precisely?

flatpak is not a "normal" system installation.  it is a collection of
packages ment to bypass a systems installation requirements, to make a
package that will run anywhere on any system.  ie: cutting corners.

use a package that is built for your system, or update your system so you
can utilize packages you wish.

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Re: [darktable-user] gimp and darktable plugin

[David Vincent-Jones]

Would it not be much more normal to call gimp from dt! Gimp, after all,
does not have the fille management capabilities of dt ... sounds to me
like the user is going backwards in the process.

Gimp (2.10) from dt , works like a charm.

David


On 05/14/2018 05:11 PM, William Ferguson wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 6:00 PM, François Patte
>  > wrote:
>
> Le 14/05/2018 à 20:30, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :
> > * François Patte  > [05-14-18 14:01]:
> >> Le 14/05/2018 à 17:18, Maurizio Paglia a écrit :
> >>> Hi,
> >>> the plugin is GIMP 2.10 :-)
> >>> You need GIMP 2.10 in order to open raw files using darktable
> from GIMP
> >>
> >> Thank you sir! I have gimp 2.10 (installed via flatpak), but
> when I want
> >> to open a raw file it suggests to install a raw loader for
> darktable and
> >> that's all! No more clue!
> >>
> >>
> >>> 2018-05-14 17:14 GMT+02:00 François Patte
> >>>  
> >>>  >>:
> >>>
> >>>     Bonjour,
> >>>
> >>>     Where can I find the gimp plugin to use dartable from gimp
> for raw
> >>>     files?
> >>>
> >>>     I could find a lot of people talking about this plugin,
> but none of them
> >>>     explain where to find it, how to install it and how to use
> it
> >>>
> >>>     Thank you.
> >>>     --
> >>>     François Patte
> >>>     UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> >>>     Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> >>>     Université Paris Descartes
> >>>     45, rue des Saints Pères
> >>>     F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> >>>     Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> >>>     http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
> 
> >>>      >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> 
> 
> >>> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to
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> 
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> François Patte
> >> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> >> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> >> Université Paris Descartes
> >> 45, rue des Saints Pères
> >> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> >> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> >> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
> 
> >>
> >
> >
> > the *clue* is probably "flatpak"
>
> More precisely?
>
> Flatpaks run in their own sandbox environment.  Darktable is not part
> of that environment, so calling it to process the raw file is a
> problem.  I don't know enough about flatpaks to know if it's possible
> to call an executable external to the flatpak or how to go about it if
> it is, and have it interact with the sandboxed application.
>
> Bill
>
> -- 
> François Patte
> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> Université Paris Descartes
> 45, rue des Saints Pères
> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
> 
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [darktable-user] gimp and darktable plugin

[François Patte]

Le 14/05/2018 à 20:30, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :
> * François Patte  [05-14-18 14:01]:
>> Le 14/05/2018 à 17:18, Maurizio Paglia a écrit :
>>> Hi,
>>> the plugin is GIMP 2.10 :-)
>>> You need GIMP 2.10 in order to open raw files using darktable from GIMP
>>
>> Thank you sir! I have gimp 2.10 (installed via flatpak), but when I want
>> to open a raw file it suggests to install a raw loader for darktable and
>> that's all! No more clue!
>>
>>
>>> 2018-05-14 17:14 GMT+02:00 François Patte
>>> >> >:
>>>
>>> Bonjour,
>>>
>>> Where can I find the gimp plugin to use dartable from gimp for raw
>>> files?
>>>
>>> I could find a lot of people talking about this plugin, but none of them
>>> explain where to find it, how to install it and how to use it
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>> -- 
>>> François Patte
>>> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
>>> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
>>> Université Paris Descartes
>>> 45, rue des Saints Pères
>>> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
>>> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
>>> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to
>>> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> François Patte
>> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
>> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
>> Université Paris Descartes
>> 45, rue des Saints Pères
>> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
>> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
>> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
>>
> 
> 
> the *clue* is probably "flatpak"

More precisely?

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Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
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Re: [darktable-user] darktable on multihead in portrait mode

[ternaryd]

On Mon, 14 May 2018 11:23:58 -0400
Anton Aylward  wrote:

> On 13/05/18 05:36 AM, ternaryd wrote:
> > I'm using darktable with three monitors, but
> > have one of them rotated.
>
> You mean like the way GIMP does it?

I'm unaware of how Gimp does it.

> I've asked about this and been told  it isn't
> possible because of the basic architecture
> of DT screen handling.

darktable is a gtk3 application which of course
can open another window. So it's hardly
impossible.

> I would love to have a system where the
> "data" part of an application can be put on
> one screen and the "controls" on another.

I don't mind if the window on the cheap monitor
continues just the same, not just the controls.
After all, darktable does allow to resize those.

> There are many text editors that claim to be
> things like 'modeless' and with without a
> control panel or ribbon. Their logic is that
> focus on the editing and remove all other
> distractions.
>
> I'm not sure that rationalization holds for
> image editing, but certainly maximizing
> image size -- putting it on your largest
> screen and having nothing else on that screen
> -- makes sense. After all, eve in one screen
> mode we can *view*, and > *only* view the
> image by making the left, right, top and
> bottom panels go away with the little
> triangle controls. So we have a large image
> but on controls.

why should it be view-only?

> Heck, in many applications, LibreOffice,
> Okular and others, I can 'unlock' the the
> tool bar and drag it elsewhere, even on
> another screen. Is this an attribute of the
> application or of KDE or Gnome? I think it is
> the application.

Now I think to understand what is meant with
"architecture" of darktable. The collapsible
panels look rather non-standard, so maybe there
is a point to it in terms of the effort tearing
off those panels into independent windows.

I know little about UI and C++ programming, but
I guess that opening that other view and linking
events to existing handlers could be an
addition rather than an alteration of existing
code. Memory management might be an issue
though. Also, it might be harder to allow for a
simultaneously second icc profile, and that
would be important to the usefulness.

Like always, it looks easier as long one
doesn't attempt to do it. But I still believe
it would be a great addition to this type of
application.

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Re: [darktable-user] gimp and darktable plugin

[Tom]

On Mon, 14 May 2018 19:59:51 +0200
François Patte <francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> wrote:

> Le 14/05/2018 à 17:18, Maurizio Paglia a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > the plugin is GIMP 2.10 :-)
> > You need GIMP 2.10 in order to open raw files using darktable from
> > GIMP  
> 
> Thank you sir! I have gimp 2.10 (installed via flatpak), but when I
> want to open a raw file it suggests to install a raw loader for
> darktable and that's all! No more clue!
There is an AppImage for GIMP 2.10 that contains the dt RAW
loader plug-in. I have used it on Linux Mint 18.3.

You can download the AppImage here. 
https://github.com/aferrero2707/gimp-appimage/releases/tag/continuous

The most recent release is 
gimp-git-2.10.1-20180514.glibc2.15-x86_64.AppImage


This AppImage is being updated frequently. The changes are here.
https://github.com/aferrero2707/gimp-appimage/compare/continuous...master


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Re: [darktable-user] gimp and darktable plugin

[Maurizio Paglia]

I do not have GIMP 2.10 yet but had a quick approach with GIMP 2.9
I think in the configuration form you have to choose what kind of raw
developer to use
Thank you
Maurizio

Il lun 14 mag 2018, 20:00 François Patte <
francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> ha scritto:

> Le 14/05/2018 à 17:18, Maurizio Paglia a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > the plugin is GIMP 2.10 :-)
> > You need GIMP 2.10 in order to open raw files using darktable from GIMP
>
> Thank you sir! I have gimp 2.10 (installed via flatpak), but when I want
> to open a raw file it suggests to install a raw loader for darktable and
> that's all! No more clue!
>
>
> > 2018-05-14 17:14 GMT+02:00 François Patte
> >  > >:
> >
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > Where can I find the gimp plugin to use dartable from gimp for raw
> > files?
> >
> > I could find a lot of people talking about this plugin, but none of
> them
> > explain where to find it, how to install it and how to use it
> >
> > Thank you.
> > --
> > François Patte
> > UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> > Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> > Université Paris Descartes
> > 45, rue des Saints Pères
> > F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> > Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> > http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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>
>
> --
> François Patte
> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> Université Paris Descartes
> 45, rue des Saints Pères
> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
>
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Re: [darktable-user] gimp and darktable plugin

[Patrick Shanahan]

* François Patte  [05-14-18 14:01]:
> Le 14/05/2018 à 17:18, Maurizio Paglia a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > the plugin is GIMP 2.10 :-)
> > You need GIMP 2.10 in order to open raw files using darktable from GIMP
> 
> Thank you sir! I have gimp 2.10 (installed via flatpak), but when I want
> to open a raw file it suggests to install a raw loader for darktable and
> that's all! No more clue!
> 
> 
> > 2018-05-14 17:14 GMT+02:00 François Patte
> >  > >:
> > 
> > Bonjour,
> > 
> > Where can I find the gimp plugin to use dartable from gimp for raw
> > files?
> > 
> > I could find a lot of people talking about this plugin, but none of them
> > explain where to find it, how to install it and how to use it
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > -- 
> > François Patte
> > UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> > Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> > Université Paris Descartes
> > 45, rue des Saints Pères
> > F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> > Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> > http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
> 
> 
> -- 
> François Patte
> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> Université Paris Descartes
> 45, rue des Saints Pères
> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
> 


the *clue* is probably "flatpak"

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Re: [darktable-user] gimp and darktable plugin

[François Patte]

Le 14/05/2018 à 17:18, Maurizio Paglia a écrit :
> Hi,
> the plugin is GIMP 2.10 :-)
> You need GIMP 2.10 in order to open raw files using darktable from GIMP

Thank you sir! I have gimp 2.10 (installed via flatpak), but when I want
to open a raw file it suggests to install a raw loader for darktable and
that's all! No more clue!


> 2018-05-14 17:14 GMT+02:00 François Patte
>  >:
> 
> Bonjour,
> 
> Where can I find the gimp plugin to use dartable from gimp for raw
> files?
> 
> I could find a lot of people talking about this plugin, but none of them
> explain where to find it, how to install it and how to use it
> 
> Thank you.
> -- 
> François Patte
> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> Université Paris Descartes
> 45, rue des Saints Pères
> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
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Re: [darktable-user] darktable on multihead in portrait mode

[Anton Aylward]

On 13/05/18 05:36 AM, ternaryd wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using darktable with three monitors, but
> have one of them rotated. After some time now
> moving the window from one monitor to another
> depending on the format of the image, I was
> asking myself, if there is a way to have
> darktable do that for me? In an ideal world, I
> would be able to keep the tools and controls on
> one monitor (a cheaper one), and the images,
> according to format on one of the others.

You mean like the way GIMP does it?

I've asked about this and been told  it isn't possible because of the basic
architecture of DT screen handling.

I would love to have a system where the "data" part of an application can be put
on one screen and the "controls" on another.  There are many text editors that
claim to be  things like 'modeless' and with without a control panel or ribbon.
Their logic is that focus on the editing and remove all other distractions.  I'm
not sure that rationalization holds for image editing, but certainly maximizing
image size -- putting it on your largest screen and having nothing else on that
screen -- makes sense.  After all, eve in one screen mode we can *view*, and
*only* view the image by making the left, right, top and bottom panels go away
with the little triangle controls.  So we have a large image but on controls.

Heck, in many applications, LibreOffice, Okular and others, I can 'unlock' the
the tool bar and drag it elsewhere, even on another screen.  Is this an
attribute of the application or of KDE or Gnome?  I think it is the application.


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Re: [darktable-user] gimp and darktable plugin

[Maurizio Paglia]

Hi,
the plugin is GIMP 2.10 :-)
You need GIMP 2.10 in order to open raw files using darktable from GIMP

Maurizio,

2018-05-14 17:14 GMT+02:00 François Patte <
francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr>:

> Bonjour,
>
> Where can I find the gimp plugin to use dartable from gimp for raw files?
>
> I could find a lot of people talking about this plugin, but none of them
> explain where to find it, how to install it and how to use it
>
> Thank you.
> --
> François Patte
> UFR de mathématiques et informatique
> Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
> Université Paris Descartes
> 45, rue des Saints Pères
> F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
> Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
> http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
>
>


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[darktable-user] gimp and darktable plugin

[François Patte]

Bonjour,

Where can I find the gimp plugin to use dartable from gimp for raw files?

I could find a lot of people talking about this plugin, but none of them
explain where to find it, how to install it and how to use it

Thank you.
-- 
François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte



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Aw: [darktable-user] darktable WIN 2.4.3 import bug - WORKAROUND -

[Michael Fritze]

Or: Drag'n'Drop folder directly to darktable.


as the number of tickets regarding this import bug is still increasing
(12154, 12161, 12163, 12177 ... to name a few concurrent tickets), here
is how it 'works':

A) copy the path you want to import from

B) paste this path into the right side of the import dialogue window
(file selector dialog)

and here we go!

It changes the path and the import works.

Regards

Haribo M





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Re: [darktable-user] Geotagging module hangs

[Timur Irikovich Davletshin]

On Mon, 2018-05-14 at 11:10 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> 
> I know, I didn't get rid of those on purpose so far. If you compile
> your own 
> darktable you can remove the lines
> 
> sqlite3_exec(dt_database_get(darktable.db), "BEGIN TRANSACTION",
> NULL, NULL, 
> NULL);
> g_hash_table_foreach(mask_entries, add_non_clone_mask_entries_to_db,
> 
> > id);
> 
> sqlite3_exec(dt_database_get(darktable.db), "COMMIT", NULL, NULL,
> NULL);
> 
> from src/common/exif.cc and have it drop all unused masks when
> loading a 
> sidecar file.
> Maybe it would be nice to wire "drop unused masks" into Lua, however,
> given 
> how quirky masks are implemented I am not sure if that is feasible.
> :-(
> 
> > Symptome is
> > the same: big sidecar file with masks in it and nothing in mask
> > manager. Cleaning it manually via mask manager helps.
> > 
> > Timur.
> 
> Tobias

So, I did as you suggested and it works as expected. Just for my
understanding, what is the potential use of those hidden unused masks?
They are not available via GUI (so I cannot employ them) nor used in
image processing.

Timur.

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Re: [darktable-user] Geotagging module hangs

[Timur Irikovich Davletshin]

On Mon, 2018-05-14 at 11:10 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> 
> I know, I didn't get rid of those on purpose so far. If you compile
> your own 
> darktable you can remove the lines
> 
> sqlite3_exec(dt_database_get(darktable.db), "BEGIN TRANSACTION",
> NULL, NULL, 
> NULL);
> g_hash_table_foreach(mask_entries, add_non_clone_mask_entries_to_db,
> 
> > id);
> 
> sqlite3_exec(dt_database_get(darktable.db), "COMMIT", NULL, NULL,
> NULL);
> 
> from src/common/exif.cc and have it drop all unused masks when
> loading a 
> sidecar file.
> Maybe it would be nice to wire "drop unused masks" into Lua, however,
> given 
> how quirky masks are implemented I am not sure if that is feasible.
> :-(
> 
> > Symptome is
> > the same: big sidecar file with masks in it and nothing in mask
> > manager. Cleaning it manually via mask manager helps.
> > 
> > Timur.
> 
> Tobias

Sure, I'll try that. But what about the others? I believe other users
also affected by this bug, maybe they just don't notice that or solve
this problem in most obvious way — buying new equipment. I already got
rid of those masks manually on a set of test images and darktable works
several times faster than before (entering darkroom mode, leaving it
and refreshing thumbnails).

Timur.

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Re: [darktable-user] Geotagging module hangs

[Tobias Ellinghaus]

Am Sonntag, 13. Mai 2018, 22:20:44 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich Davletshin:
> On Sun, 2018-05-13 at 21:12 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> > I added some change to how masks are handled:
> > 
> > - When resetting the spot module we delete all masks used internally
> > in the 
> > module. That should prevent dt from piling up masks that are not
> > shown in the 
> > mask manager.
> > - When loading XMP files all cloning masks (the ones used in spot
> > removal) 
> > that are not actually used by the image are ignored.
> > 
> > With those it might be enough to reload your images to get rid of the
> > big 
> > sidecar sizes. It would be great if you could try it after making a
> > backup of 
> > your files. Just to be on the safe side ...
> > 
> > Tobias
> 
> It kind of working, but not 100%. Some of those masks are cleaned (spot
> tool I believe), but there are others... see attachment.

I know, I didn't get rid of those on purpose so far. If you compile your own 
darktable you can remove the lines

sqlite3_exec(dt_database_get(darktable.db), "BEGIN TRANSACTION", NULL, NULL, 
NULL);
g_hash_table_foreach(mask_entries, add_non_clone_mask_entries_to_db, 
>id);
sqlite3_exec(dt_database_get(darktable.db), "COMMIT", NULL, NULL, NULL);

from src/common/exif.cc and have it drop all unused masks when loading a 
sidecar file.
Maybe it would be nice to wire "drop unused masks" into Lua, however, given 
how quirky masks are implemented I am not sure if that is feasible. :-(

> Symptome is
> the same: big sidecar file with masks in it and nothing in mask
> manager. Cleaning it manually via mask manager helps.
> 
> Timur.

Tobias

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