Re: [darktable-user] New Module Ordering

[KOVÁCS István]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 22:46, David Vincent-Jones  wrote:
> The latest way of ordering the modules eliminates the 'favorites' column.
> With the new ordering system I can delete items in a column but cannot add 
> items.

See: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-PKTkkn/

It would have been nice to migrate existing favourites and add enabled
modules to the respective categories automatically; now a few thousand
people will have to re-add their modules.

Kofa

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Re: [darktable-user] New Module Ordering

[Bill Martz]

At the top of the module stack, on the right-hand side, there is a presets
icon. Click on it and select manage presets. I added a legacy layout and
put my favorites in there. Trying to explain in detail what to do would be
a lot of work. Play with it, and post questions if you don't figure it out.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 4:46 PM David Vincent-Jones 
wrote:

> Manjaro/Arch ..XFCE ... Daily git.
>
> The latest way of ordering the modules eliminates the 'favorites' column.
> I had previously placed all of my common modules in that column and rarely
> had to switch to other columns during basic processing.
>
> With the new ordering system I can delete items in a column but cannot add
> items. This forces the user to always work with multiple columns even when
> working with simple images.
>
> I would be interested to know why the favorite column was deleted, or if
> it still could be added.
>
> David
>
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Re: [darktable-user] New Module Ordering

[David Vincent-Jones]

Thanks Patrick ... just the information that Ineed.  However I do not 
see the way to add the new column or the add other modules to any of the 
columns. What is the trick that I am missing?


David

On 2020-10-15 1:53 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* David Vincent-Jones  [10-15-20 16:48]:

Manjaro/Arch ..XFCE ... Daily git.

The latest way of ordering the modules eliminates the 'favorites' column.  I
had previously placed all of my common modules in that column and rarely had
to switch to other columns during basic processing.

With the new ordering system I can delete items in a column but cannot add
items. This forces the user to always work with multiple columns even when
working with simple images.

I would be interested to know why the favorite column was deleted, or if it
still could be added.

why don't you just add a column.  I did it, MyFav, and populated it with
modules I frequently use.

it also may be posible to edit that to add off-the-wall modules in a
second column just for access.

and a second mouse clink on the "header" icon, MyFav in my case, provides
a larger, more complete listing of modules.





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Re: [darktable-user] New Module Ordering

[Patrick Shanahan]

* David Vincent-Jones  [10-15-20 16:48]:
> Manjaro/Arch ..XFCE ... Daily git.
> 
> The latest way of ordering the modules eliminates the 'favorites' column.  I
> had previously placed all of my common modules in that column and rarely had
> to switch to other columns during basic processing.
> 
> With the new ordering system I can delete items in a column but cannot add
> items. This forces the user to always work with multiple columns even when
> working with simple images.
> 
> I would be interested to know why the favorite column was deleted, or if it
> still could be added.

why don't you just add a column.  I did it, MyFav, and populated it with
modules I frequently use.

it also may be posible to edit that to add off-the-wall modules in a
second column just for access.

and a second mouse clink on the "header" icon, MyFav in my case, provides
a larger, more complete listing of modules.


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[darktable-user] New Module Ordering

[David Vincent-Jones]

Manjaro/Arch ..XFCE ... Daily git.

The latest way of ordering the modules eliminates the 'favorites' 
column.  I had previously placed all of my common modules in that column 
and rarely had to switch to other columns during basic processing.


With the new ordering system I can delete items in a column but cannot 
add items. This forces the user to always work with multiple columns 
even when working with simple images.


I would be interested to know why the favorite column was deleted, or if 
it still could be added.


David



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Re: [darktable-user] Database Problem

[ternaryd]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:11:34 -0700
David Vincent-Jones  wrote:

> OK ... glad to hear that it is not just on my
> system.

Just noticed, there is a quick and easy way to
test: Use ''create HDR'', which certainly will
be a file created after the source images, but
the DNG is ordered just before them.

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Re: [darktable-user] Database Problem

[David Vincent-Jones]

OK ... glad to hear that it is not just on my system.

David

On 2020-10-15 11:17 a.m., Bernhard wrote:



Jim Robinson schrieb am 15.10.20 um 19:02:

I have found things defaulting to sort by
filename sometimes when I am sure I left it sort by time for example.

This is what I also see since 3.2.1 on debian buster.
Never had this behaviour before.




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Re: [darktable-user] Database Problem

[Bernhard]

Jim Robinson schrieb am 15.10.20 um 19:02:

I have found things defaulting to sort by
filename sometimes when I am sure I left it sort by time for example.

This is what I also see since 3.2.1 on debian buster.
Never had this behaviour before.

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Re: [darktable-user] Database Problem

[David Vincent-Jones]

Here is something further that is quite interesting: If a 'correct' 
image is shown with for instance a filename of 20150106-44.RAF, then all 
of the multiple following 'incorrect' images show the same filename and 
even the same camera settings.


David

On 2020-10-15 10:12 a.m., August Schwerdfeger wrote:

With the new version of Darktable, I believe they expanded the options
available in the light table's "sort by" combo box, so an existing
setting may have been disrupted.

Also, I believe the light table collections are always sorted by every
criterion in that list -- the one selected by the user is just given the
priority, but within the equivalence classes created by that one, the
others are still used. For example, when I am sorting by "time" and have
two images with the same timestamp, and apply a color label to one,
their order is switched in the light table.

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On 10/15/20 12:02 PM, Jim Robinson wrote:

I assume you mean in lighttable.  Do you mean that the 'sort by' that
you have set is not being obeyed.  I have found things defaulting to
sort by filename sometimes when I am sure I left it sort by time for
example.

Jim

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 17:19, David Vincent-Jones mailto:david...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 Current git ... Manjaro/XFCE ...

 I appear to have an ongoing problem with images being located out
 of position/time sequence in my system. To try and solve the
 situation I have fully re-installed all of my images in a fresh dt
 update after flushing all traces of  '.db' files. I then ran a
 fresh cache update.

 The problem still exists with images being totally misplaces at
 random.

 Ideas would be welcome

 David


 

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Re: [darktable-user] Database Problem

[David Vincent-Jones]

I am not doing a complex sort  simply 'view all' + 'time'. This can 
be seen when simply opening my entire Pictures folder (right from the 
top) where all of my images are already in time sequence.


David

On 2020-10-15 10:12 a.m., August Schwerdfeger wrote:

With the new version of Darktable, I believe they expanded the options
available in the light table's "sort by" combo box, so an existing
setting may have been disrupted.

Also, I believe the light table collections are always sorted by every
criterion in that list -- the one selected by the user is just given the
priority, but within the equivalence classes created by that one, the
others are still used. For example, when I am sorting by "time" and have
two images with the same timestamp, and apply a color label to one,
their order is switched in the light table.

--
August Schwedfeger
aug...@schwerdfeger.name

On 10/15/20 12:02 PM, Jim Robinson wrote:

I assume you mean in lighttable.  Do you mean that the 'sort by' that
you have set is not being obeyed.  I have found things defaulting to
sort by filename sometimes when I am sure I left it sort by time for
example.

Jim

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 17:19, David Vincent-Jones mailto:david...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 Current git ... Manjaro/XFCE ...

 I appear to have an ongoing problem with images being located out
 of position/time sequence in my system. To try and solve the
 situation I have fully re-installed all of my images in a fresh dt
 update after flushing all traces of  '.db' files. I then ran a
 fresh cache update.

 The problem still exists with images being totally misplaces at
 random.

 Ideas would be welcome

 David


 

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Re: [darktable-user] Database Problem

[David Vincent-Jones]

Yes, in lighttable . I notice this in a simple ''time' sequence. 
Ususally 3 or 4 images that are totally misplaced and when I try to open 
a 'misplaced' image another, correctly sequenced, in its place and image 
appears which then replaces the lighttable position.


David


On 2020-10-15 10:02 a.m., Jim Robinson wrote:

I assume you mean in lighttable.  Do you mean that the 'sort by' that you
have set is not being obeyed.  I have found things defaulting to sort by
filename sometimes when I am sure I left it sort by time for example.

Jim

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 17:19, David Vincent-Jones 
wrote:


Current git ... Manjaro/XFCE ...

I appear to have an ongoing problem with images being located out of
position/time sequence in my system. To try and solve the situation I have
fully re-installed all of my images in a fresh dt update after flushing all
traces of  '.db' files. I then ran a fresh cache update.

The problem still exists with images being totally misplaces at random.

Ideas would be welcome

David


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Re: [darktable-user] Database Problem

[August Schwerdfeger]

With the new version of Darktable, I believe they expanded the options
available in the light table's "sort by" combo box, so an existing
setting may have been disrupted.

Also, I believe the light table collections are always sorted by every
criterion in that list -- the one selected by the user is just given the
priority, but within the equivalence classes created by that one, the
others are still used. For example, when I am sorting by "time" and have
two images with the same timestamp, and apply a color label to one,
their order is switched in the light table.

--
August Schwedfeger
aug...@schwerdfeger.name

On 10/15/20 12:02 PM, Jim Robinson wrote:
> I assume you mean in lighttable.  Do you mean that the 'sort by' that
> you have set is not being obeyed.  I have found things defaulting to
> sort by filename sometimes when I am sure I left it sort by time for
> example.
>
> Jim
>
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 17:19, David Vincent-Jones  > wrote:
>
> Current git ... Manjaro/XFCE ...
>
> I appear to have an ongoing problem with images being located out
> of position/time sequence in my system. To try and solve the
> situation I have fully re-installed all of my images in a fresh dt
> update after flushing all traces of  '.db' files. I then ran a
> fresh cache update.
>
> The problem still exists with images being totally misplaces at
> random.
>
> Ideas would be welcome
>
> David
>
>
> 
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Re: [darktable-user] Database Problem

[Jim Robinson]

I assume you mean in lighttable.  Do you mean that the 'sort by' that you
have set is not being obeyed.  I have found things defaulting to sort by
filename sometimes when I am sure I left it sort by time for example.

Jim

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 17:19, David Vincent-Jones 
wrote:

> Current git ... Manjaro/XFCE ...
>
> I appear to have an ongoing problem with images being located out of
> position/time sequence in my system. To try and solve the situation I have
> fully re-installed all of my images in a fresh dt update after flushing all
> traces of  '.db' files. I then ran a fresh cache update.
>
> The problem still exists with images being totally misplaces at random.
>
> Ideas would be welcome
>
> David
>
> 
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[darktable-user] Database Problem

[David Vincent-Jones]

Current git ... Manjaro/XFCE ...

I appear to have an ongoing problem with images being located out of 
position/time sequence in my system. To try and solve the situation I 
have fully re-installed all of my images in a fresh dt update after 
flushing all traces of  '.db' files. I then ran a fresh cache update.


The problem still exists with images being totally misplaces at random.

Ideas would be welcome

David



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