Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder

[Ross Tucker]

Hi Haribo:

Tried your suggestion, but still no-go.
I've been shooting and editing recently, the painstaking way (using Windows
File Explorer).
Installed the git version of bash and started darktable expecting to see
some error messages in git-bash but there was nothing reported.
Aside from lightable not working at all, the rest of  dt  seems to be
working properly.  Of course I haven't tried every module, but the ones I
often use are working well.

The only usage issue (outside of  lighttable) is that I haven't been able
to find the mask properties that enable inclusion, exclusion, AND, etc.,
for two or masks used at the same time.

Thanks again for your suggestions though.

Sincerely

Ross Tucker

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 20:03, Harald  wrote:

> Ross,
>
> do you see a Terminal window with debugging information in parallel to the
> darktable window? If this is not true, run darktable from within a git bash
> window to be able to collect all messages.
>
> Download and install git for windows first (https://gitforwindows.org/).
>
> "-d" is the option to show the messages for each subsystem, "-d all" for
> everything (supported). -d is never part of a path name.
>
> Take care about "/" or "\" in your path as well. Within git bash terminal
> window it is "/" and NOT "\".
>
> Haribo
> Am 12.08.2020 um 04:28 schrieb Ross Tucker:
>
> Hi Harald:
>
> Thanks for the tip!
>
> I tried to use it but it still didn't work - still no lighttable import.
> When I click on any of the left side window panes:
> - import
> - collect images
> - recently used collections
> and try to select something, nothing happens.
> When I try to import a directory which has a lot of photo's in it, the
> Windows darktable icon on the bottom of the monitor shows a progress bar as
> part of the icon.  Something is definitely happening in the background, but
> nothing ever shows up in the lighttable image collection area.
>
> Thanks for pointing me to darktable command line parameters.  Tried the
> one you suggested, with no apparent luck.  Not sure where my cache folder
> is supposed to reside (yet).
> Ran the cache generating command line feature and it ran for quite a while
> (1.1.3. darktable-generate-cache binary) but still nothing shows up in the
> lighttable  area.
> I did find a cache related directory at:
> C:\Program
> Files\darktable\bin\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187
> which has 31 files in it ranging from a low of 6 kB to a high of  439 kB.
> I then ran a variant of your suggestion:
> darktable --cachedir C:\Program
> Files\darktable\bin\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187  -d lua -d
> opencl -d perf -d sql
> which then gives me the error message of:
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> changed the command line to:
> C:\Program Files\darktable\bin>darktable  --cachedir
> .\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187   -d lua   -d opencl   -d perf
>  -d sql
> and it ran without an error message but without any different results.  It
> generated a subfolder in the cache folder "-d" and basically repeated all
> the same files in it.
>
> As I mentioned earlier, I can RMB on a file using Windows Explorer and
> choose to open with darktable, but none of the files ever show up in the
> lighttable view.
>
> Not sure what next to try.
>
> Thanks again for your suggestions.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Ross Tucker
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 20:56, Harald  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ross,
>>
>> I recommend using a start option to enable debugging mode to help better
>> understand what is really going on here...
>>
>> For example I start darktable like this :
>>
>> c:/tools/.../darktable/bin/darktable --cachedir c:/... *-d* lua -d
>> opencl -d perf
>>
>> Related help can be retrieved here:
>>
>>
>> https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/overview_chapter.html#darktable_commandline_parameters
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Haribo
>> Am 11.08.2020 um 08:05 schrieb Ross Tucker:
>>
>> Hi Terry:
>>
>> I uninstalled  darktable  with their uninstaller.
>> downloaded the 64 bit pgm file again.
>> reinstalled again.
>> tried again.
>> still NG.
>> Something is stubbornly refusing to let  darktable  import folders.
>> I have let it import jpgs (I have RAW & JPG) plus I let it recurse
>> directories, but still NG.
>>
>> Tried editing a bit and that seems to work as before, but lighttable is
>> still a no-go for me at the moment.
>> I can still access files by opening them from windows explorer, but of
>> course I lose all the features (tagging, stars, colour tags, etc

Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder

[Ross Tucker]

Hi Harald:

Thanks for the tip!

I tried to use it but it still didn't work - still no lighttable import.
When I click on any of the left side window panes:
- import
- collect images
- recently used collections
and try to select something, nothing happens.
When I try to import a directory which has a lot of photo's in it, the
Windows darktable icon on the bottom of the monitor shows a progress bar as
part of the icon.  Something is definitely happening in the background, but
nothing ever shows up in the lighttable image collection area.

Thanks for pointing me to darktable command line parameters.  Tried the one
you suggested, with no apparent luck.  Not sure where my cache folder is
supposed to reside (yet).
Ran the cache generating command line feature and it ran for quite a while
(1.1.3. darktable-generate-cache binary) but still nothing shows up in the
lighttable  area.
I did find a cache related directory at:
C:\Program Files\darktable\bin\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187
which has 31 files in it ranging from a low of 6 kB to a high of  439 kB.
I then ran a variant of your suggestion:
darktable --cachedir C:\Program
Files\darktable\bin\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187  -d lua -d
opencl -d perf -d sql
which then gives me the error message of:

[image: image.png]

changed the command line to:
C:\Program Files\darktable\bin>darktable  --cachedir
.\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187   -d lua   -d opencl   -d perf
 -d sql
and it ran without an error message but without any different results.  It
generated a subfolder in the cache folder "-d" and basically repeated all
the same files in it.

As I mentioned earlier, I can RMB on a file using Windows Explorer and
choose to open with darktable, but none of the files ever show up in the
lighttable view.

Not sure what next to try.

Thanks again for your suggestions.

Sincerely

Ross Tucker


On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 20:56, Harald  wrote:

> Hi Ross,
>
> I recommend using a start option to enable debugging mode to help better
> understand what is really going on here...
>
> For example I start darktable like this :
>
> c:/tools/.../darktable/bin/darktable --cachedir c:/... *-d* lua -d opencl
> -d perf
>
> Related help can be retrieved here:
>
>
> https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/overview_chapter.html#darktable_commandline_parameters
>
> Regards
>
> Haribo
> Am 11.08.2020 um 08:05 schrieb Ross Tucker:
>
> Hi Terry:
>
> I uninstalled  darktable  with their uninstaller.
> downloaded the 64 bit pgm file again.
> reinstalled again.
> tried again.
> still NG.
> Something is stubbornly refusing to let  darktable  import folders.
> I have let it import jpgs (I have RAW & JPG) plus I let it recurse
> directories, but still NG.
>
> Tried editing a bit and that seems to work as before, but lighttable is
> still a no-go for me at the moment.
> I can still access files by opening them from windows explorer, but of
> course I lose all the features (tagging, stars, colour tags, etc.) from
> lighttable.
>
> Glad it's working for you though.
>
> rss
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 11:13, Terry Pinfold  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ross,
>>  I just installed it on my windows computer. Followed the instruction
>> to let DT upgrade the database. Then imported a new folder and it was fine.
>> I look forward to exploring the improved features and options. No problems
>> yet.
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 09:05, Ross Tucker  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> With much excitement I installed  darktable  V 3.2.1 after running V
>>> 3.0.2 since it's release about 8 months ago.  3.0.2 had problems and
>>> limited some of the edits I could do but I still could use it.  3.2.1 has
>>> edited one file so far so that was nice.  I went to import a folder full of
>>> my latest  NEF images but nothing loaded.  I tried importing a single file
>>> into lightable and that too would not work.  Note that I can still go to
>>> windows-10  and RMB on a file and choose Open with -- darktable and the
>>> image will open in  3.2.1.  I doubt that I'm doing anything wrong but . . .
>>>
>>> Thanks again for a wonderful FOSS photo product - it is an excellent
>>> editor and I've enjoyed my beginning steps with learning the edit functions
>>> and features, tips and tricks.
>>>
>>> Sincerely
>>>
>>> Ross Tucker
>>>
>>> 
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Cytometry & Histology 

Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder

[Ross Tucker]

Hi Terry:

I uninstalled  darktable  with their uninstaller.
downloaded the 64 bit pgm file again.
reinstalled again.
tried again.
still NG.
Something is stubbornly refusing to let  darktable  import folders.
I have let it import jpgs (I have RAW & JPG) plus I let it recurse
directories, but still NG.

Tried editing a bit and that seems to work as before, but lighttable is
still a no-go for me at the moment.
I can still access files by opening them from windows explorer, but of
course I lose all the features (tagging, stars, colour tags, etc.) from
lighttable.

Glad it's working for you though.

rss

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 11:13, Terry Pinfold  wrote:

> Hi Ross,
>  I just installed it on my windows computer. Followed the instruction
> to let DT upgrade the database. Then imported a new folder and it was fine.
> I look forward to exploring the improved features and options. No problems
> yet.
>
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 09:05, Ross Tucker  wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> With much excitement I installed  darktable  V 3.2.1 after running V
>> 3.0.2 since it's release about 8 months ago.  3.0.2 had problems and
>> limited some of the edits I could do but I still could use it.  3.2.1 has
>> edited one file so far so that was nice.  I went to import a folder full of
>> my latest  NEF images but nothing loaded.  I tried importing a single file
>> into lightable and that too would not work.  Note that I can still go to
>> windows-10  and RMB on a file and choose Open with -- darktable and the
>> image will open in  3.2.1.  I doubt that I'm doing anything wrong but . . .
>>
>> Thanks again for a wonderful FOSS photo product - it is an excellent
>> editor and I've enjoyed my beginning steps with learning the edit functions
>> and features, tips and tricks.
>>
>> Sincerely
>>
>> Ross Tucker
>>
>> 
>> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to
>> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
>>
>
>
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> Lecturer in Flow Cytometry
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Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder

[Ross Tucker]

Hi Patrick:

Thanks for the quick response.

I simply followed, from the  darktable.org  web page, their direction to
send to:
How to get in contact -->  "users mailing list: for all concerns of a
darktable user: usage questions, experience reports"
I wasn't aware of an alternate method as you have suggested.

I have added myself to darktable GitHub and am awaiting confirmation.

Thanks again.

Ross

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 09:15, Patrick Shanahan  wrote:

> * Ross Tucker  [08-10-20 19:06]:
> > Hi:
> >
> > With much excitement I installed  darktable  V 3.2.1 after running V
> 3.0.2
> > since it's release about 8 months ago.  3.0.2 had problems and limited
> some
> > of the edits I could do but I still could use it.  3.2.1 has edited one
> > file so far so that was nice.  I went to import a folder full of my
> latest
> > NEF images but nothing loaded.  I tried importing a single file into
> > lightable and that too would not work.  Note that I can still go to
> > windows-10  and RMB on a file and choose Open with -- darktable and the
> > image will open in  3.2.1.  I doubt that I'm doing anything wrong but .
> . .
> >
> > Thanks again for a wonderful FOSS photo product - it is an excellent
> editor
> > and I've enjoyed my beginning steps with learning the edit functions and
> > features, tips and tricks.
>
> you should open a new issue if one does not exist detailing your
> experience, operating system, hardware and install details.
>   https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues
>
> consider it your contribution to further a great free utility.
>
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[darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder

[Ross Tucker]

Hi:

With much excitement I installed  darktable  V 3.2.1 after running V 3.0.2
since it's release about 8 months ago.  3.0.2 had problems and limited some
of the edits I could do but I still could use it.  3.2.1 has edited one
file so far so that was nice.  I went to import a folder full of my latest
NEF images but nothing loaded.  I tried importing a single file into
lightable and that too would not work.  Note that I can still go to
windows-10  and RMB on a file and choose Open with -- darktable and the
image will open in  3.2.1.  I doubt that I'm doing anything wrong but . . .

Thanks again for a wonderful FOSS photo product - it is an excellent editor
and I've enjoyed my beginning steps with learning the edit functions and
features, tips and tricks.

Sincerely

Ross Tucker


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Re: [darktable-user] Bug report: Combined drawn and parametric mask not working in Windows V4 dev. version

[Ross Tucker]

I've experienced similar problems with masking - I tried a gradient and a
parametric after I had already successfully used a mask elsewhere.

Also, I've never had  Retouch  or  Spot Removal  function in 3.0.2.

I've had some other issues (can no longer load an image by double clicking
in Lightable.  I have to select the image then click on  darktable).
Since I hadn't seen many/any windows user complaints I assumed that my
installed copy of  Windows was damaged and I've been planning on buying a
new 1TB Sata SSD to do a clean install into.

Ross

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 21:11, Bill Martz 
wrote:

> I tried to see if this was reported on Github, but did not find it. Using
> the raw image, P1120111.ORF, which can be downloaded at
> https://discuss.pixls.us/t/new-to-raw-hate-my-results-so-far/17486, I
> tried to mask everything but the sky in color balance using a
> drawn/parametric mask combination. Selecting on H, hue, the setting for
> input was negative polarity, 0, 0, 197, 197. I then added a path mask
> around the portion of the lake that remained unselected, polarity positive.
> The area within the path remained unselected. This same setup does work in
> dt 3.0.2.  Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>
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Re: [darktable-user] Re: darktable not honouring 'open with darktable'

[Ross Tucker]

Hi:

I have Windows 10, Version 1909 (Build 18363.900).
I think windows updated itself recently even though I tried to block
updates.

Currently I have a very difficult time getting darktable to open any files
using any methods.
Multi-clicking in  lighttable  doesn't seem to work anymore.
Rebooting windows hasn't helped.
Trying to open a  .NEF  file from Windows Explorer seems to try to start
darktable  but then it hangs and never gets past the white Windows window
whose header simply says:
  darktable (Not Responding)
Sysinternals Process Explorer shows that  darktable.exe  seems to spawn
gdbus.exe, but then everything hangs.

Ross

On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 00:13, Richard Hobday  wrote:

> For what its worth!
> The issue exists on Linux Mint 19.3 with current git
> 3.1.0+2336~g2a3aef537 as well.
> I'm pretty sure it used to work.
>
> I'll have to investigate further.
>
>
>
> On 21/06/2020 14:03, Willy Williams wrote:
> > In my case, I have one machine still on Win 10 v1908, and one on Win 10
> > v2004, and it happens on both.
> >
> > Willy
> >
> > --
> >
> >   "You don't take a picture.  You ask quietly and humbly to borrow it."
> >
> >   - Unknown
> >
> > --
> >
> > On 6/21/20 8:51 AM, Jim Robinson wrote:
> >> Since for the Windows 10 users this is apparently a new issue I was
> >> wondering whether it is in any way associated with the recent Windows
> >> upgrade, i.e. have you upgraded to version 2004?  I can confirm that
> >> the issue is also present (under Windows 10 version 2004) with the
> >> latest darktable git master, although it doesn't worry me as it is not
> >> something I ever do.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 12:31, Willy Williams  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> The exact same situation exists on my Win 10 machines with 3.0.2.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [darktable-user] darktable not honouring 'open with darktable'

[Ross Tucker]

Hi All:

Like Terry Duell, I've had similar problems recently.  Drag-n-Drop stopped
working as well.  Plus I also could not open up a .NEF file from within
Lightable - no amount of multi-clicking with the mouse would open any of
the files.  Had to reboot Win 10.  I'm running dt 3.0.2 and have had it
working properly for a while now and only recently has it started to
misbehave.  Curious to see if someone finds a solution.  Don't think I've
changed any settings in the settings menu.

Also, the  retouch  module seems to only partially work.  I think it can
heal but it does not work on the wavelets anymore.

ross tucker

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 09:53, Terry Duell  wrote:

> Hello All,
> I've recently noticed that when I select an image file and choose 'Open
> with
> darktable', darktable doesn't open on screen as it does if I choose
> darktable
> from the apps menu, instead it is added to the lower icon bar and does not
> respond.
> If I choose 'open with GIMP' that works as expected.
> I'm running Fedora 32 and my current darktable build is release-3.1.0-2310-
> g890bf49f0, but the issue hasn't been confined just to this latest build.
> I suspect I'm simply missing something here, but not sure what or where to
> look.
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> --
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>
>
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Re: [darktable-user] Using a 4K monitor display

[Ross Tucker]

Thanks to David Vincent-Jones, who identified the  darktable.css  as the
file which defines font size, I was able to change from 8pt Sans to 11pt
Sans and the legibility of the characters is now good enough to read on my
4k monitor, while leaning back.  Previously I had to occasionally lean in
to read the text.

OS:  Windows 7 Ult.

Ross Tucker

On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 00:48, Šarūnas  wrote:

> On 11/26/19 10:51 PM, David Vincent-Jones wrote:
> > looking in darktable.css I note that  *font-size: 1em .*
> >
> > does this scale with the screen resolution?*
>
> Yes, it does, at least in KDE Plasma. Don't have Gnome to test at the
> moment. Not with screen resolution, but with pixel density.
>
> Though 1em, or whatever is the default in 3.x, (there are numerous
> font-size settings in darktable.css) is a bit too large for my taste.
> Other UI elements seem a bit bulky as well...
>
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