Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
Re your [ASIDE]: I recently built a similarly spec'd photo workstation with Ryzen 3900x 12-core, 32Gb 3200Mhz DDR4, Radeon RX 5500XT 8Gb DDR6 GPU, 2 x NVMe M2 SSD, on an ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 - all PCIe4 - running OpenSUSE Leap 15.1. It ABSOLUTELY FLIES!! Edit actions in DT on 36mpix files that used to take a long time on my Linux Mint laptop (with SSD) which really got in the way of creativity, now happen in real-time, and export of 16bit tifs take 3-5secs. Working on files on the NAS over 1Gbe network has little performance impact as database and cache are on the local SSD, except for export which takes around twice as long. I spend much less time in front of the computer, and get better results. Well worth it. Good luck. On 21/07/2020 23:09, Top Rock Photography wrote: I also run Dt on a ten years old system, (AMD Phenom II X6), but with a few upgrades, (4GB nVidia GTX 760, and a 4×2TB HDD RAID5 SATA III storage, 1TB SSD SATA III system drive, 32 GB 1,333MHz DDR3 RAM), and it runs fairly fast under Ubuntu 20.04. Also, 66MHz PCI 2.1 bus. The GPU is PCIe 3.0 capable, but the MB is only PCIe 2.0 capable. I recently did a clean Dt ver 3.0.2 install, and imported 68,000+ raw images, and it took about an hour. I hear horror stories of Lr users taking several hours to import about 1,000 images. Northrup would say that he would come home from a shoot, set his Lr to import the files, and they may be done by the morning, (having run for 7-8 hours). Now that is a Lr CC on Windows comparison. I have no idea how Dt on Windows will do. I do know that ten years ago, my Linux system would run circles around any similarly spec'ed windows machine, but Windows has come a long way since then. The fact that Dt uses HW acceleration, including GPU, and that it does multithreading, (things that Lr does not do), puts it ahead. [ASIDE] I hope to upgrade my computer soon, to a PCIe 4.0 MB, a 12 to 24 core Ryzen, (24 to 48 threads), and 32GB ECC 2,666MHz DDR4 RAM, but I will probably keep the same video card for now, (as well as SSD and HDD RAID). Maybe, possibly, but not likely anytime soon, get an M.2 system drive, and a 6 to 8 GB PCIe 4.0 video card. [/ASIDE] Sincerely, Karim Hosein Top Rock Photography 754.999.1652 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
RE: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
Obviously I fully support that. I am pleasantly and positively surprised because of the powerful properties of darktable. I also congratulate the developers and volunteers. Marc. Van: Terry Pinfold Verzonden: donderdag 23 juli 2020 2:56 Aan: Marc Cabuy CC: Top Rock Photography ; I. Ivanov ; Darktable Mailing List Onderwerp: Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux? I would just like to congratulate the developers and volunteers who provide multi-platform support to give the end user the true freedom to use whichever platform they like. For some of us we are prisoners to operating systems such as Windows because other software providers, eg. Adobe, do not provide the same level of multi-platform support to give us the freedom to choose Linux. On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 18:01, Marc Cabuy mailto:marc.ca...@gmail.com> > wrote: I appreciate that darktable runs better on Linux but hope that the developers CONTINUE TO PROVIDE WINDOWS SUPPORT. Coming from LR 5.7 under Windows, learning dt is already a tough hurdle to take. But thanks to its particularly strong features, it’s worth it to me. However transiting to Linux too, would have made it too difficult to me. Now, what I read here about the power needed in your computer is certainly true. LR 5.7 would run reasonably ok in interactive mode for 16 megapixel raws on my dual core mobile intel processor with 8 GB memory and an integrated gpu. However running darktable was not really feasible with that little power. Currently, and after a ssd crash/failure (yes it happens !), I am satisfactorily running/learning dt on a pseudo gaming laptop with a discrete gpu and (a) color-accurate display(s). So I count on the developers for continued Windows support. Thank you, Marc. Van: Top Rock Photography <mailto:ka...@toprockphotography.com> Verzonden: woensdag 22 juli 2020 0:11 Aan: I. Ivanov <mailto:iv3...@gmail.com> CC: Darktable Mailing List <mailto:darktable-user@lists.darktable.org> Onderwerp: Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux? I also run Dt on a ten years old system, (AMD Phenom II X6), but with a few upgrades, (4GB nVidia GTX 760, and a 4×2TB HDD RAID5 SATA III storage, 1TB SSD SATA III system drive, 32 GB 1,333MHz DDR3 RAM), and it runs fairly fast under Ubuntu 20.04. Also, 66MHz PCI 2.1 bus. The GPU is PCIe 3.0 capable, but the MB is only PCIe 2.0 capable. I recently did a clean Dt ver 3.0.2 install, and imported 68,000+ raw images, and it took about an hour. I hear horror stories of Lr users taking several hours to import about 1,000 images. Northrup would say that he would come home from a shoot, set his Lr to import the files, and they may be done by the morning, (having run for 7-8 hours). Now that is a Lr CC on Windows comparison. I have no idea how Dt on Windows will do. I do know that ten years ago, my Linux system would run circles around any similarly spec'ed windows machine, but Windows has come a long way since then. The fact that Dt uses HW acceleration, including GPU, and that it does multithreading, (things that Lr does not do), puts it ahead. [ASIDE] I hope to upgrade my computer soon, to a PCIe 4.0 MB, a 12 to 24 core Ryzen, (24 to 48 threads), and 32GB ECC 2,666MHz DDR4 RAM, but I will probably keep the same video card for now, (as well as SSD and HDD RAID). Maybe, possibly, but not likely anytime soon, get an M.2 system drive, and a 6 to 8 GB PCIe 4.0 video card. [/ASIDE] Sincerely, Karim Hosein Top Rock Photography 754.999.1652 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> -- Dr Terry Pinfold Cytometry & Histology Lab Manager Lecturer in Flow Cytometry University of Tasmania 17 Liverpool St, Hobart, 7000 Ph 6226 4846 or 0408 699053 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
I would just like to congratulate the developers and volunteers who provide multi-platform support to give the end user the true freedom to use whichever platform they like. For some of us we are prisoners to operating systems such as Windows because other software providers, eg. Adobe, do not provide the same level of multi-platform support to give us the freedom to choose Linux. On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 18:01, Marc Cabuy wrote: > I appreciate that darktable runs better on Linux but hope that the > developers CONTINUE TO PROVIDE WINDOWS SUPPORT. > > > > Coming from LR 5.7 under Windows, learning dt is already a tough hurdle to > take. But thanks to its particularly strong features, it’s worth it to me. > However transiting to Linux too, would have made it too difficult to me. > > > > Now, what I read here about the power needed in your computer is certainly > true. LR 5.7 would run reasonably ok in interactive mode for 16 megapixel > raws on my dual core mobile intel processor with 8 GB memory and an > integrated gpu. However running darktable was not really feasible with that > little power. Currently, and after a ssd crash/failure (yes it happens !), > I am satisfactorily running/learning dt on a pseudo gaming laptop with a > discrete gpu and (a) color-accurate display(s). > > > > So I count on the developers for continued Windows support. > > > > Thank you, > > Marc. > > > > *Van: *Top Rock Photography > *Verzonden: *woensdag 22 juli 2020 0:11 > *Aan: *I. Ivanov > *CC: *Darktable Mailing List > *Onderwerp: *Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux? > > > > I also run Dt on a ten years old system, (AMD Phenom II X6), but with a > few upgrades, (4GB nVidia GTX 760, and a 4×2TB HDD RAID5 SATA III storage, > 1TB SSD SATA III system drive, 32 GB 1,333MHz DDR3 RAM), and it runs fairly > fast under Ubuntu 20.04. Also, 66MHz PCI 2.1 bus. The GPU is PCIe 3.0 > capable, but the MB is only PCIe 2.0 capable. > > > > I recently did a clean Dt ver 3.0.2 install, and imported 68,000+ raw > images, and it took about an hour. I hear horror stories of Lr users taking > several hours to import about 1,000 images. Northrup would say that he > would come home from a shoot, set his Lr to import the files, and they may > be done by the morning, (having run for 7-8 hours). > > > > Now that is a Lr CC on Windows comparison. I have no idea how Dt on > Windows will do. I do know that ten years ago, my Linux system would run > circles around any similarly spec'ed windows machine, but Windows has come > a long way since then. The fact that Dt uses HW acceleration, including > GPU, and that it does multithreading, (things that Lr does not do), puts it > ahead. > > > > [ASIDE] I hope to upgrade my computer soon, to a PCIe 4.0 MB, a 12 to 24 > core Ryzen, (24 to 48 threads), and 32GB ECC 2,666MHz DDR4 RAM, but I will > probably keep the same video card for now, (as well as SSD and HDD RAID). > Maybe, possibly, but not likely anytime soon, get an M.2 system drive, and > a 6 to 8 GB PCIe 4.0 video card. [/ASIDE] > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Karim Hosein > > Top Rock Photography > > 754.999.1652 > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > -- Dr Terry Pinfold Cytometry & Histology Lab Manager Lecturer in Flow Cytometry University of Tasmania 17 Liverpool St, Hobart, 7000 Ph 6226 4846 or 0408 699053 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
RE: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
I appreciate that darktable runs better on Linux but hope that the developers CONTINUE TO PROVIDE WINDOWS SUPPORT. Coming from LR 5.7 under Windows, learning dt is already a tough hurdle to take. But thanks to its particularly strong features, it’s worth it to me. However transiting to Linux too, would have made it too difficult to me. Now, what I read here about the power needed in your computer is certainly true. LR 5.7 would run reasonably ok in interactive mode for 16 megapixel raws on my dual core mobile intel processor with 8 GB memory and an integrated gpu. However running darktable was not really feasible with that little power. Currently, and after a ssd crash/failure (yes it happens !), I am satisfactorily running/learning dt on a pseudo gaming laptop with a discrete gpu and (a) color-accurate display(s). So I count on the developers for continued Windows support. Thank you,Marc. Van: Top Rock PhotographyVerzonden: woensdag 22 juli 2020 0:11Aan: I. IvanovCC: Darktable Mailing ListOnderwerp: Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux? I also run Dt on a ten years old system, (AMD Phenom II X6), but with a few upgrades, (4GB nVidia GTX 760, and a 4×2TB HDD RAID5 SATA III storage, 1TB SSD SATA III system drive, 32 GB 1,333MHz DDR3 RAM), and it runs fairly fast under Ubuntu 20.04. Also, 66MHz PCI 2.1 bus. The GPU is PCIe 3.0 capable, but the MB is only PCIe 2.0 capable. I recently did a clean Dt ver 3.0.2 install, and imported 68,000+ raw images, and it took about an hour. I hear horror stories of Lr users taking several hours to import about 1,000 images. Northrup would say that he would come home from a shoot, set his Lr to import the files, and they may be done by the morning, (having run for 7-8 hours). Now that is a Lr CC on Windows comparison. I have no idea how Dt on Windows will do. I do know that ten years ago, my Linux system would run circles around any similarly spec'ed windows machine, but Windows has come a long way since then. The fact that Dt uses HW acceleration, including GPU, and that it does multithreading, (things that Lr does not do), puts it ahead. [ASIDE] I hope to upgrade my computer soon, to a PCIe 4.0 MB, a 12 to 24 core Ryzen, (24 to 48 threads), and 32GB ECC 2,666MHz DDR4 RAM, but I will probably keep the same video card for now, (as well as SSD and HDD RAID). Maybe, possibly, but not likely anytime soon, get an M.2 system drive, and a 6 to 8 GB PCIe 4.0 video card. [/ASIDE] Sincerely, Karim HoseinTop Rock Photography754.999.1652 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
I also run Dt on a ten years old system, (AMD Phenom II X6), but with a few upgrades, (4GB nVidia GTX 760, and a 4×2TB HDD RAID5 SATA III storage, 1TB SSD SATA III system drive, 32 GB 1,333MHz DDR3 RAM), and it runs fairly fast under Ubuntu 20.04. Also, 66MHz PCI 2.1 bus. The GPU is PCIe 3.0 capable, but the MB is only PCIe 2.0 capable. I recently did a clean Dt ver 3.0.2 install, and imported 68,000+ raw images, and it took about an hour. I hear horror stories of Lr users taking several hours to import about 1,000 images. Northrup would say that he would come home from a shoot, set his Lr to import the files, and they may be done by the morning, (having run for 7-8 hours). Now that is a Lr CC on Windows comparison. I have no idea how Dt on Windows will do. I do know that ten years ago, my Linux system would run circles around any similarly spec'ed windows machine, but Windows has come a long way since then. The fact that Dt uses HW acceleration, including GPU, and that it does multithreading, (things that Lr does not do), puts it ahead. [ASIDE] I hope to upgrade my computer soon, to a PCIe 4.0 MB, a 12 to 24 core Ryzen, (24 to 48 threads), and 32GB ECC 2,666MHz DDR4 RAM, but I will probably keep the same video card for now, (as well as SSD and HDD RAID). Maybe, possibly, but not likely anytime soon, get an M.2 system drive, and a 6 to 8 GB PCIe 4.0 video card. [/ASIDE] Sincerely, Karim Hosein Top Rock Photography 754.999.1652 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
Hello, > Message du 18/07/20 09:02 > De : "Kneops" > A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux? > > Defenitely Linux! > > > .../... > DT on Windows was by far not as fast as on Linux. Totally agree ! Rgrds, J.-Luc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
I have to agree: I use Darktable and GIMP on Windows 10 and it runs very well, I tried to install it on my older computer (running Ubuntu) and it worked too, but not as smoothly. You probably need to be a Linux expert to set up a linux system to give you the same performance / results, and your hardware has a bigger impact than the system you use. Am Sa., 18. Juli 2020 um 02:22 Uhr schrieb Terry Pinfold : > > I need Windows to run I programs I use for work. I plan to set up a Linux > computer as well one day just for GIMP and Darktable. However, I can not > compare to Linux but Darktable works really well on Windows. > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 18:32, wrote: >> >> My understanding is that darktable started life as Linux software, but I >> know it is now available on Windows as well. I have the flexibility to >> install darktable in Windows (10) or Linux (debian). My assumption was that >> darktable would be more reliable and the user interface would work better on >> on Linux, since that's what is was design for, but I realize that might not >> be true. >> >> Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on? >> >> >> darktable user mailing list >> to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> > > > -- > Dr Terry Pinfold > Cytometry & Histology Lab Manager > Lecturer in Flow Cytometry > University of Tasmania > 17 Liverpool St, Hobart, 7000 > Ph 6226 4846 or 0408 699053 > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
Defenitely Linux! I have compared both on the same pc. I first installed Linux on this new and fast pc, wondering how well LR would work under Virtual Box. Pretty good but not fast enough, and I compared it with DT. DT was blazing fast! Unbelievable and unprecendented Trump would call it ;). Because I than decided to install Windows on that same pc because I need the native speed of Windows and LR, I still decided to install DT too (I also have DT on an older Linux pc). DT on Windows was by far not as fast as on Linux. Op 18-07-2020 om 08:29 schreef I. Ivanov: Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on? Linux!!! I am using a 9 year old Dell XPS i7 gen 2 (sandy bridge) (8 cores total) - 8GB RAM and PopOS 20.04 that I upgraded to few weeks ago. And I prefer to use this machine compared to Dell Precision - Windows 10 Professional with 16 GB Ram - 8 cores i5 or i7 (not sure) - Gen 8 - 1.5 year old again 8 cores. I didn't buy the Windows - I have it from work and work on it daily (I don't use it for personal use except to try one program or another). The windows has even GPU Nvidia Quadro P1000 that Darktable utilizes but I see no significant improvement in performance. With all that windows has to offer on the hardware (I mean the Dell machine) I feel that the performance and experience did not match Linux. Because of my older configuration - I used Ubuntu 16.04 with Darktable 2.6.3 and this configuration (on the 9 year old machine) would happily compete with Windows 10 Professional (the new 1.5 year old computer) with Darktable 3.0.2 Now since my 9 year old machine is upgraded to Pop OS 20.04 - Darktable 3.0.2 still works great but in some modules (like denoise, retouch) I can feel the aging hardware. Even with this - the service that I received from the hardware (Dell XPS x2), Linux and Darktable are more than impressive. I don't know what the experience is to run Darktable on a brand new machine under Linux. Looking at youtube videos sometimes - majority of the presenters that run Linux appear to have better experience than my Windows 10 professional. By the way - they are not only running Darktable - at the same time they record the video for youtube. Hope you will find the best platform that serves your needs. I made my choice and it is Linux. Regards, B darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on? Linux!!! I am using a 9 year old Dell XPS i7 gen 2 (sandy bridge) (8 cores total) - 8GB RAM and PopOS 20.04 that I upgraded to few weeks ago. And I prefer to use this machine compared to Dell Precision - Windows 10 Professional with 16 GB Ram - 8 cores i5 or i7 (not sure) - Gen 8 - 1.5 year old again 8 cores. I didn't buy the Windows - I have it from work and work on it daily (I don't use it for personal use except to try one program or another). The windows has even GPU Nvidia Quadro P1000 that Darktable utilizes but I see no significant improvement in performance. With all that windows has to offer on the hardware (I mean the Dell machine) I feel that the performance and experience did not match Linux. Because of my older configuration - I used Ubuntu 16.04 with Darktable 2.6.3 and this configuration (on the 9 year old machine) would happily compete with Windows 10 Professional (the new 1.5 year old computer) with Darktable 3.0.2 Now since my 9 year old machine is upgraded to Pop OS 20.04 - Darktable 3.0.2 still works great but in some modules (like denoise, retouch) I can feel the aging hardware. Even with this - the service that I received from the hardware (Dell XPS x2), Linux and Darktable are more than impressive. I don't know what the experience is to run Darktable on a brand new machine under Linux. Looking at youtube videos sometimes - majority of the presenters that run Linux appear to have better experience than my Windows 10 professional. By the way - they are not only running Darktable - at the same time they record the video for youtube. Hope you will find the best platform that serves your needs. I made my choice and it is Linux. Regards, B darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
* Terry Pinfold [07-17-20 20:24]: > I need Windows to run I programs I use for work. I plan to set up a Linux > computer as well one day just for GIMP and Darktable. However, I can not > compare to Linux but Darktable works really well on Windows. > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 18:32, wrote: > > > My understanding is that darktable started life as Linux software, but I > > know it is now available on Windows as well. I have the flexibility to > > install darktable in Windows (10) or Linux (debian). My assumption was > > that darktable would be more reliable and the user interface would work > > better on on Linux, since that's what is was design for, but I realize that > > might not be true. > > > > Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on? I am prejudiced having not purchased a copy of windows for >20 years, but dt was developed on linux systems and I would opt for a linux system after more than 8 years of using dt exclusively. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
I need Windows to run I programs I use for work. I plan to set up a Linux computer as well one day just for GIMP and Darktable. However, I can not compare to Linux but Darktable works really well on Windows. On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 18:32, wrote: > My understanding is that darktable started life as Linux software, but I > know it is now available on Windows as well. I have the flexibility to > install darktable in Windows (10) or Linux (debian). My assumption was > that darktable would be more reliable and the user interface would work > better on on Linux, since that's what is was design for, but I realize that > might not be true. > > Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on? > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > -- Dr Terry Pinfold Cytometry & Histology Lab Manager Lecturer in Flow Cytometry University of Tasmania 17 Liverpool St, Hobart, 7000 Ph 6226 4846 or 0408 699053 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
Yes, I have built and run darktable under WSL (versions 1 and 2) most recently with Ubuntu 20.04 installed and xfce4 as window manager. There is a major drawback and that is that OpenCL is not available, as, being on what is essentially a virtual machine, linux doesn't directly 'see' the graphics card. I am also unsure how colour management works. As far as printing when running darktable under windows goes it is possible to use a Lua script to export a tiff to another application to print. On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 10:10, Matt Maguire wrote: > Has anyone tried running darktable on Windows under WDSL (which provides a > linux environment on Windows). I haven't bothered, because I run Linux on > main laptop, and only have a small Windows machine for running some > proprietary software for which there is no linux alternative. > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 19:04, Graham Byrnes wrote: > >> A particular issue is printing: the CUPS printing facility doesn't work >> under Windows. >> So under W10, you need to export (ie as a tiff) then print with 3rd party >> software. >> >> This may turn out to be an advantage or not: Canon, in their infinite >> wisdom, does not support open source, so you would need to purchase a >> printer driver like Turboprint if you are using a good Canon printer. In >> Windows, you are free to print the tiff using the Canon software available >> for *some* of their printers... >> >> If you have both systems installed, you should be able to take your pick >> :-) >> >> Cheers, >> Graham >> >> Le ven. 17 juil. 2020 à 10:46, Markus Jung a écrit : >> >>> Linux. It is the main development platform and pretty much the whole >>> ecosystem (such as libraries which are used) are deeply rooted in the >>> FOSS/Linux community as well. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Markus >>> >>> Am 17.07.20 um 10:31 schrieb ey9zzhy...@liamekaens.com: >>> > My understanding is that darktable started life as Linux software, but >>> I know it is now available on Windows as well. I have the flexibility to >>> install darktable in Windows (10) or Linux (debian). My assumption was >>> that darktable would be more reliable and the user interface would work >>> better on on Linux, since that's what is was design for, but I realize that >>> might not be true. >>> > >>> > Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on? >>> > >>> > >>> >>> > darktable user mailing list >>> > to unsubscribe send a mail to >>> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >>> > >>> >>> >>> darktable user mailing list >>> to unsubscribe send a mail to >>> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Graham Byrnes >> Bron (Lyon), France >> Mes photos: https://500px.com/grahambyrnes >> >> >> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
Has anyone tried running darktable on Windows under WDSL (which provides a linux environment on Windows). I haven't bothered, because I run Linux on main laptop, and only have a small Windows machine for running some proprietary software for which there is no linux alternative. On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 19:04, Graham Byrnes wrote: > A particular issue is printing: the CUPS printing facility doesn't work > under Windows. > So under W10, you need to export (ie as a tiff) then print with 3rd party > software. > > This may turn out to be an advantage or not: Canon, in their infinite > wisdom, does not support open source, so you would need to purchase a > printer driver like Turboprint if you are using a good Canon printer. In > Windows, you are free to print the tiff using the Canon software available > for *some* of their printers... > > If you have both systems installed, you should be able to take your pick > :-) > > Cheers, > Graham > > Le ven. 17 juil. 2020 à 10:46, Markus Jung a écrit : > >> Linux. It is the main development platform and pretty much the whole >> ecosystem (such as libraries which are used) are deeply rooted in the >> FOSS/Linux community as well. >> >> Regards, >> Markus >> >> Am 17.07.20 um 10:31 schrieb ey9zzhy...@liamekaens.com: >> > My understanding is that darktable started life as Linux software, but >> I know it is now available on Windows as well. I have the flexibility to >> install darktable in Windows (10) or Linux (debian). My assumption was >> that darktable would be more reliable and the user interface would work >> better on on Linux, since that's what is was design for, but I realize that >> might not be true. >> > >> > Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on? >> > >> > >> >> > darktable user mailing list >> > to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> > >> >> >> darktable user mailing list >> to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> >> > > -- > Graham Byrnes > Bron (Lyon), France > Mes photos: https://500px.com/grahambyrnes > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
Le vendredi 17 juillet 2020 à 08:31 +, ey9zzhy...@liamekaens.com a écrit : > Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on? Linux, why do you want to hurt yourself using Windows anyway :) -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
A particular issue is printing: the CUPS printing facility doesn't work under Windows. So under W10, you need to export (ie as a tiff) then print with 3rd party software. This may turn out to be an advantage or not: Canon, in their infinite wisdom, does not support open source, so you would need to purchase a printer driver like Turboprint if you are using a good Canon printer. In Windows, you are free to print the tiff using the Canon software available for *some* of their printers... If you have both systems installed, you should be able to take your pick :-) Cheers, Graham Le ven. 17 juil. 2020 à 10:46, Markus Jung a écrit : > Linux. It is the main development platform and pretty much the whole > ecosystem (such as libraries which are used) are deeply rooted in the > FOSS/Linux community as well. > > Regards, > Markus > > Am 17.07.20 um 10:31 schrieb ey9zzhy...@liamekaens.com: > > My understanding is that darktable started life as Linux software, but I > know it is now available on Windows as well. I have the flexibility to > install darktable in Windows (10) or Linux (debian). My assumption was > that darktable would be more reliable and the user interface would work > better on on Linux, since that's what is was design for, but I realize that > might not be true. > > > > Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on? > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > -- Graham Byrnes Bron (Lyon), France Mes photos: https://500px.com/grahambyrnes darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
Linux. It is the main development platform and pretty much the whole ecosystem (such as libraries which are used) are deeply rooted in the FOSS/Linux community as well. Regards, Markus Am 17.07.20 um 10:31 schrieb ey9zzhy...@liamekaens.com: > My understanding is that darktable started life as Linux software, but I know > it is now available on Windows as well. I have the flexibility to install > darktable in Windows (10) or Linux (debian). My assumption was that > darktable would be more reliable and the user interface would work better on > on Linux, since that's what is was design for, but I realize that might not > be true. > > Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on? > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
I think Linux for sure Il giorno ven 17 lug 2020 alle ore 10:32 ha scritto: > My understanding is that darktable started life as Linux software, but I > know it is now available on Windows as well. I have the flexibility to > install darktable in Windows (10) or Linux (debian). My assumption was > that darktable would be more reliable and the user interface would work > better on on Linux, since that's what is was design for, but I realize that > might not be true. > > Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on? > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Windows or Linux?
My understanding is that darktable started life as Linux software, but I know it is now available on Windows as well. I have the flexibility to install darktable in Windows (10) or Linux (debian). My assumption was that darktable would be more reliable and the user interface would work better on on Linux, since that's what is was design for, but I realize that might not be true. Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on? darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
