Re: Montavisa git tree
Kevin Hilman wrote: Dirk Behme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Troy Kisky wrote: I'm exploring the montavista git tree and saw that there has been no activity for a few months. Yes, unfortunately, you are right. git kernel is hosted by MV, and maintained by a MV employee, Kevin Hilman. This is the open source git kernel for DaVinci, we all (the community) can, should and have to contribute to if it should be viable. The commercial official product TI/MV still supports is the 2.6.10 (?) TI/MV kernel. One other minor clarification/disclaimer... Please do not call the git tree a Montavista tree. Let's call it the DaVinci git tree. It is indeed hosted by MV (as is the OMAP tree) but that is all. This is a _community_ tree, dependent on the quality of _community_ contributions. Kevin: Yes, I completely agree. This is exactly what I tried to express above with my own words ;) All: To avoid confusion in the future, can we agree on the following wording: - DaVinci git kernel: This is the _community_ kernel as expressed above by Kevin. It is available at http://source.mvista.com/git/?p=linux-davinci-2.6.git;a=summary - TI/MV kernel: This is the outdated 2.6.10 (?) one you get with DVEVM CDs and after registration at http://www.ti.com/dvevmupdates Dirk I have been maintaining it in my spare time, not in any official MV role. As the DaVinci community grows, the maintainer role may need to be revisited as more work is will be required. Until then, lets keep discussions going and keep the patches coming. I just saw that you updated git kernel. MANY THANKS for this! Dirk ___ Davinci-linux-open-source mailing list Davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com http://linux.davincidsp.com/mailman/listinfo/davinci-linux-open-source
Re: Montavisa git tree
Troy Kisky wrote: I'm exploring the montavista git tree and saw that there has been no activity for a few months. Yes, unfortunately, you are right. git kernel is hosted by MV, and maintained by a MV employee, Kevin Hilman. This is the open source git kernel for DaVinci, we all (the community) can, should and have to contribute to if it should be viable. The commercial official product TI/MV still supports is the 2.6.10 (?) TI/MV kernel. Back to open source git kernel, unfortunately, it seems that Kevin actually has no time to maintain the DaVinci git kernel, apply changes and update it to recent Linus' 2.6.24 version. Technically speaking, there are few (~5?) patches in the list archives which should/can applied to the git archive as it is at the moment (2.6.23). Cause of Kevins lack of time, these are not applied yet. Regarding update to 2.6.24: The OMAP git kernel, the parent of DaVinci git kernel, is already at 2.6.24. Some work will be necessary to update due to API/interface changes, though. But this is doable. A bigger issue I actually can't estimate are changes to video driver. Some weeks ago Kevin mentioned that video driver also needs a significant rework since the video-buf layer changed in mainline. IMHO there would be at least the option to update git kernel to recent 2.6.24 fixing the simple API/interface changes, but in a first step leave the video driver broken. Opinions? Maybe anybody from TI or MV can comment on thoughts/plans/furture regading http://source.mvista.com/git/?p=linux-davinci-2.6.git;a=summary ? I'm using git://source.mvista.com/git/linux-davinci-2.6.git, is that the right one? Yes. I've also seen references to source.mvista.com/gittrees leading to my confusion. http://source.mvista.com/gittrees doesn't work for me. http://source.mvista.com/ works for me, and the only interesting Davinci related link there is http://source.mvista.com/git/?p=linux-davinci-2.6.git;a=summary what is again what you noted above. Should patches for this tree be sent to this mailing list? Yes, sure, patches are basically really welcome. Independent from the issues we currently have with applying them. See kernel related part of [1] as well. Best regards Dirk [1] http://linux.omap.com/pipermail/davinci-linux-open-source/2008-February/005146.html ___ Davinci-linux-open-source mailing list Davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com http://linux.davincidsp.com/mailman/listinfo/davinci-linux-open-source
Re: Montavisa git tree
Trilok Soni wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 10:32 PM, Dirk Behme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Troy Kisky wrote: I'm exploring the montavista git tree and saw that there has been no activity for a few months. Yes, unfortunately, you are right. git kernel is hosted by MV, and maintained by a MV employee, Kevin Hilman. This is the open source git kernel for DaVinci, we all (the community) can, should and have to contribute to if it should be viable. The commercial official product TI/MV still supports is the 2.6.10 (?) TI/MV kernel. Back to open source git kernel, unfortunately, it seems that Kevin actually has no time to maintain the DaVinci git kernel, apply changes and update it to recent Linus' 2.6.24 version. Technically speaking, there are few (~5?) patches in the list archives which should/can applied to the git archive as it is at the moment (2.6.23). Cause of Kevins lack of time, these are not applied yet. Regarding update to 2.6.24: The OMAP git kernel, the parent of DaVinci git kernel, is already at 2.6.24. Some work will be necessary to update due to API/interface changes, though. But this is doable. A bigger issue I actually can't estimate are changes to video driver. Some weeks ago Kevin mentioned that video driver also needs a significant rework since the video-buf layer changed in mainline. IMHO there would be at least the option to update git kernel to recent 2.6.24 fixing the simple API/interface changes, but in a first step leave the video driver broken. Opinions? Maybe anybody from TI or MV can comment on thoughts/plans/furture regading http://source.mvista.com/git/?p=linux-davinci-2.6.git;a=summary At this point of time, we need helping hand from TI DaVinci developers, to submit the internal development patches after in sync with latest OMAP git tree as it is the parent one. I am seeing lots of new OMAP3 related patches coming from TI developers. Yes, OMAP is a quite good example. DaVinci should learn from it! I feel that TI should push their internal DaVinci development team for open source submissions too. Another big pain is that I see lot's of DaVinci based products churning out thesedays, but those small/mid-level companies showing no interest in submitting those driver patches to DaVinci ML. Yes, I totally agree. It somehow remembers me to Thomas Gleixners The embedded Linux nightmare - an epilogue http://lwn.net/Articles/232379/ Worth reading! As of now I only see to TI to change this situation. Hopefully anybody from TI will comment. Regards Dirk ___ Davinci-linux-open-source mailing list Davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com http://linux.davincidsp.com/mailman/listinfo/davinci-linux-open-source
Re: Montavisa git tree
Dirk Behme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Troy Kisky wrote: I'm exploring the montavista git tree and saw that there has been no activity for a few months. Yes, unfortunately, you are right. git kernel is hosted by MV, and maintained by a MV employee, Kevin Hilman. This is the open source git kernel for DaVinci, we all (the community) can, should and have to contribute to if it should be viable. The commercial official product TI/MV still supports is the 2.6.10 (?) TI/MV kernel. Back to open source git kernel, unfortunately, it seems that Kevin actually has no time to maintain the DaVinci git kernel, apply changes and update it to recent Linus' 2.6.24 version. While it's true that I don't currently have much time for this. I was also waiting for the official 2.6.24 OMAP kernel to release so I could rebase onto that first. Now that the 2.6.24 OMAP merge is done, have updated the DaVinci tree locally. I will push it out as a branch of the current tree since there are still known issues with it that others can help with instead of waiting for me. I'll post a separate message with the details on known issues in 2.6.24 after I push the branch. Kevin ___ Davinci-linux-open-source mailing list Davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com http://linux.davincidsp.com/mailman/listinfo/davinci-linux-open-source
Re: Montavisa git tree
Dirk Behme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Troy Kisky wrote: I'm exploring the montavista git tree and saw that there has been no activity for a few months. Yes, unfortunately, you are right. git kernel is hosted by MV, and maintained by a MV employee, Kevin Hilman. This is the open source git kernel for DaVinci, we all (the community) can, should and have to contribute to if it should be viable. The commercial official product TI/MV still supports is the 2.6.10 (?) TI/MV kernel. One other minor clarification/disclaimer... Please do not call the git tree a Montavista tree. Let's call it the DaVinci git tree. It is indeed hosted by MV (as is the OMAP tree) but that is all. This is a _community_ tree, dependent on the quality of _community_ contributions. I have been maintaining it in my spare time, not in any official MV role. As the DaVinci community grows, the maintainer role may need to be revisited as more work is will be required. Until then, lets keep discussions going and keep the patches coming. Kevin ___ Davinci-linux-open-source mailing list Davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com http://linux.davincidsp.com/mailman/listinfo/davinci-linux-open-source
