Re: Debian live stable images with just console and software speech using espeakup

[Lorenzo "Palinuro" Faletra]

hi, the debian netinstall images include obly the debian installer (which is an 
autonomous OS), and the debian installer can give you access to a minimal 
console with many useful utilities. give it a try and let us know if it is what 
you need


On December 23, 2017 9:10:22 PM GMT+01:00, Nick Gawronski 
 wrote:
>Hi, I was looking for a Debian live disc that is just for console use
>for
>doing things like copying off files and installing a basic console
>Debian
>system using software speech.  I searched the Debian live project but
>could not find just console images they all had a desktop on them which
>I
>don't need.  Could this be looked into for times where a minimal live
>disc
>is needed?  Nick Gawronski

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Re: Debian live stable images with just console and software speech using espeakup

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, I guess but then I would have to go threw all of the screens to do
things like copy off files from my system I want something that is a
little more full featured then the Debian installation images and that has
tools to get work done.  I guess I could connect to my wireless network
then load the debs for what I needed but I would rather have a basic
console live disc that loads into ram when it boots so I can remove the
disc or USB stick for faster usage in the live system.  Nick Gawronski
On Sat, December 23, 2017 1:19 pm, ben wrote:
> Hello1
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 12:10:22PM -0800, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>
>
>> Hi, I was looking for a Debian live disc that is just for console use
>> for doing things like copying off files and installing a basic console
>> Debian
>> system using software speech.  I searched the Debian live project but
>> could not find just console images they all had a desktop on them which
>> I
>> don't need.
>
> Couldn't a regular netinstall image be used for this purpose?
>
>
> Ben Swiggett
>
>
>

Re: xclip problem

[Jude DaShiell]

As of now, I removed the entire graphical user environment from this 
disk since I was getting too much keyboard latency and probably install 
it later then I will return to this problem.  Before that, I'll try all 
of this with a system that doesn't use startx to run the graphical user 
environment and see if I get lucky in there.  For those that use startx 
to start their graphical user environments, does a way exist to stop the 
graphical user environment and return to command line environment short 
of powering down the system?


On Sat, 23 Dec 2017, john doe wrote:


Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:32:26
From: john doe 
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 04:32:45 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

On 12/22/2017 9:38 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 I tried all of this in a terminal and got :0.0 for the DISPLAY value. So I
 exported DISPLAY=:0.0 then ran xclip and xclip errored out because it
 couldn't find DISPLAY :0.0.



From:

https://github.com/astrand/xclip

"* Connects to the X display in $DISPLAY, or specified with -display host:0"

What happened if you don't set the DISPLAY variable (post the error if any 
along with the command and where are you executing/entering it)?


Are you on Debian 9 (Stretch)?

Why do you need 'xclip' and what are you trying  to accomplish?


 On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, john doe wrote:


 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:29:42
 From: john doe 
 To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: xclip problem
 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 19:30:01 + (UTC)
 Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

 On 12/22/2017 7:56 PM, Paul Gevers wrote:

 ?Hi Jude,

 ?On 22-12-17 19:26, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 ?as near as I can tell, echo does not work when used after alt-f2 in a
 ?text command.


 ?Just tried, for me it works (in KDE).



 I don't use mate but if it is like gnome:

 From:

 https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/CheatSheet

 "Alt+F2 allows entering a command to launch an application."


 So from now on could you enter the commands in a terminal?

 There is no need to redirect the output of 'echo $DISPLAY' to a file.


 ?I also found out it's
 ?necessary to use touch to create a file first before anything can be
 ?sent to that file.


 ?That is absolutely not normal.



 As Paul said, something is very rong here.










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Re: festvox voices

[Jude DaShiell]

Dyslectics also use screen readers so the audience is likely larger than 
you think.


On Sat, 23 Dec 2017, Paul Gevers wrote:


Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 14:32:08
From: Paul Gevers 
To: Debian TTS Team ,
Debian Accessibility Team 
Subject: festvox voices

Dear all,

As you may have noticed, I have worked on several festival/festvox
packages lately. However, I was wondering about some issues, so I
solicit for advice. Mainly because I never use any of these packages myself.

1) We have three? 8kHz voices in our archive, with 16kHz siblings. Are
they still interesting to keep? I thing they served their purpose in
another era. Upstream hasn't listed them since 2007 (last one was in
festival 1.96). I propose we request for removal and have the 16kHz
package take over (via provides).

2) Festival/Festvox ship a lot of new voices since 2014?. How valuable
do we consider shipping multiple voices? I would expect that these
modern voices have better quality, is it worth it to have so many? I
guess that hearing a voice is a matter of taste and therefor worth to
have a choice. Looking at popcon? though, it seems most people settle
for one: festvox-kallpc16k, but it may be that that is the default
somehow, as it is the first dependency of festival. As I expect the most
important audience (pun intended) is rather small and a substantial
amount is probably reading this I value your opinion over popcon.

Paul

? festvox-kallpc8k, festvox-kdlpc8k, festvox-rablpc8k
? http://festvox.org/packed/festival/2.4/voices/
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Re: Debian live stable images with just console and software speech using espeakup

[ben]

Hello1
On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 12:10:22PM -0800, Nick Gawronski wrote:

> Hi, I was looking for a Debian live disc that is just for console use for
> doing things like copying off files and installing a basic console Debian
> system using software speech.  I searched the Debian live project but
> could not find just console images they all had a desktop on them which I
> don't need.  

Couldn't a regular netinstall image be used for this purpose?

Ben Swiggett

festvox voices

[Paul Gevers]

Dear all,

As you may have noticed, I have worked on several festival/festvox
packages lately. However, I was wondering about some issues, so I
solicit for advice. Mainly because I never use any of these packages myself.

1) We have three¹ 8kHz voices in our archive, with 16kHz siblings. Are
they still interesting to keep? I thing they served their purpose in
another era. Upstream hasn't listed them since 2007 (last one was in
festival 1.96). I propose we request for removal and have the 16kHz
package take over (via provides).

2) Festival/Festvox ship a lot of new voices since 2014². How valuable
do we consider shipping multiple voices? I would expect that these
modern voices have better quality, is it worth it to have so many? I
guess that hearing a voice is a matter of taste and therefor worth to
have a choice. Looking at popcon³ though, it seems most people settle
for one: festvox-kallpc16k, but it may be that that is the default
somehow, as it is the first dependency of festival. As I expect the most
important audience (pun intended) is rather small and a substantial
amount is probably reading this I value your opinion over popcon.

Paul

¹ festvox-kallpc8k, festvox-kdlpc8k, festvox-rablpc8k
² http://festvox.org/packed/festival/2.4/voices/
³
https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=tts-proj...@lists.alioth.debian.org=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=1=0=0



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