Re: eth0 down after upgrade

2005-10-11 Thread Tobias Krais
Hi Craig,

 I have had lots of problems doing an apt-get dist-upgrade since last
 week. Now my network connection doesn't work. Before the apt-get
 upgrade I was using eth0 to connect to a DSL modem/router while the
 wireless interface (ra0) was disconnected. Now I find out that the
 computer is using ra0, eth0 is inactive and I can't find out why or
 how to activate eth0.
 
 Has there been any recently upgraded packages that would have screwed
 up my network configuration?
 
 When I try to active eth0 (from the GUI admin) it fails saying that it
 is not set up properly. Huh? Everything WAS set up properly a week
 ago.
 
 I can use the internet now via the ra0 interface. Also my webserver is
 running, telnet and sshd are running as normal. However, I cannot
 access these servers from any other machine - not even from the local
 network (from a wireless laptop, using the local ip for access).

sounds interesting, but please tell me more. One hint in advance. Use
the new driver for your Ralink wireless card. Then ra0 changes to eth1.
Now, please paste /etc/network/interfaces.

Do you use a router or just a DSL modem?

Can you manually start your eth0 device? Try (supposing your network is
192.168.1.0:
ifconfig ra0 down
ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.5 up
route add default gw 192.168.1.1 and then ping your router.

Greetings, Tobias


 NOTE:
 the DSL modem/ router is functioning properly. I restarted it, tryed
 it with another computer and everything is working the same as always.
 My laptop can use either wireless or ethernet just fine. When I reboot
 the debian box into windows it uses both the wireless and ethernet
 interfaces OK.
 
 IFCONFIG:
 ---
 *note* it isn't showing an inet address
 
 ifconfig
 eth0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr
 00-E0-18-00-00-86-89-0F-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:0 errors:5 dropped:5 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
 
 NETSTAT
 
 netstat -i
 Kernel Interface table
 Iface   MTU Met   RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVRTX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg
 eth0   1500 0 0  0  0  00  5  5  0 
 BMRU
 lo16436 0   538  0  0  0  538  0  0  0 LRU
 ra01500 0   2203459  0  0  0  2458906506506  0 
 BMRU
 


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Re: eth0 down after upgrade

2005-10-11 Thread Adam Stiles
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 09:16, Craig Hagerman wrote:
 Hi,

 I have had lots of problems doing an apt-get dist-upgrade since last
 week. Now my network connection doesn't work. Before the apt-get
 upgrade I was using eth0 to connect to a DSL modem/router while the
 wireless interface (ra0) was disconnected. Now I find out that the
 computer is using ra0, eth0 is inactive and I can't find out why or
 how to activate eth0.

 Has there been any recently upgraded packages that would have screwed
 up my network configuration?

 When I try to active eth0 (from the GUI admin) it fails saying that it
 is not set up properly. Huh? Everything WAS set up properly a week
 ago.

 I can use the internet now via the ra0 interface. Also my webserver is
 running, telnet and sshd are running as normal. However, I cannot
 access these servers from any other machine - not even from the local
 network (from a wireless laptop, using the local ip for access).

 I have no idea what happened here or what to try next. I would really
 appreciate any advice for solving this problem.

 Craig

[* stuff deleted *]

What have you got in /etc/network/interfaces?  If this file has become 
corrupt, then it might well bitch up your network settings.

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state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Hi,

Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?

I used:
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).

But azureus causes java to segfault


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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Adam Stiles
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:01, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?

 I used:
 deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
 and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).

 But azureus causes java to segfault

There is now a version of Sun Java 1.5 for AMD64.  It's not available as 
a .deb file, but the self-extracting executable  {not the RPM}  works 
reasonably well.

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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Jo Shields

Adam Stiles wrote:


On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:01, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 


Hi,

Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?

I used:
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).

But azureus causes java to segfault
   



There is now a version of Sun Java 1.5 for AMD64.  It's not available as 
a .deb file, but the self-extracting executable  {not the RPM}  works 
reasonably well.


 


make-jpkg works fine on the amd64 .run files

still no browser plugin, though


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kernel-2.6.12 panic when loading

2005-10-11 Thread Dr Gavin Seddon
Hi,
I have installed the 2.6.12-1 image to enable me to run k3b.  However,
when booting I get a kernel panic.  Has anyone seen/fixed this?


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Re: Problem installing debian amd-64 on a HP

2005-10-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 04:34:34PM +0200, Andreas wrote:
 Hi,
I got the DX5150 up and running today, thanks all for your help!
This is how I did it:
 
Booted into expert mode with Len Sorensens sarge ISO, modprobed ahci,
sata_sil and sd_mod. By now it sees the disk. Loaded ide-cd and
ide-generic and it sees the cdrom. Those weren't loaded automagically 
and that's probably why the installer hung (I think). Switch back to the
installer and continue as usual. No problems at all, except for some
trouble with XFree, it couldn't detect the graphics card, so I had to
use the vesa driver. I works for me.
 
Again, thanks all.
 
Andreas
 
PS. Here's the lspci output:
 
:00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5950
:00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4376
:00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4377
:00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4371
:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc:
Unknown device 4370 (rev 01)

Try man update-pciids

Unfortunately I couldn't get 'update-pciids' to work. It complained
about a compressed file and I have gzip and bzip2 installed.

(I am running Sarge i386 but soon I'll be running AMD64 :-))

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Re: Problem installing debian amd-64 on a HP

2005-10-11 Thread Dean Hamstead

update your kernel to 2.6.12

actually, can i recommend updating to 'testing'

Dean

Chris Bannister wrote:

On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 04:34:34PM +0200, Andreas wrote:


Hi,
  I got the DX5150 up and running today, thanks all for your help!
  This is how I did it:

  Booted into expert mode with Len Sorensens sarge ISO, modprobed ahci,
  sata_sil and sd_mod. By now it sees the disk. Loaded ide-cd and
  ide-generic and it sees the cdrom. Those weren't loaded automagically 
  and that's probably why the installer hung (I think). Switch back to the

  installer and continue as usual. No problems at all, except for some
  trouble with XFree, it couldn't detect the graphics card, so I had to
  use the vesa driver. I works for me.

  Again, thanks all.

  Andreas

  PS. Here's the lspci output:

  :00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5950
  :00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4376
  :00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4377
  :00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4371
  :00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc:
  Unknown device 4370 (rev 01)



Try man update-pciids

Unfortunately I couldn't get 'update-pciids' to work. It complained
about a compressed file and I have gzip and bzip2 installed.

(I am running Sarge i386 but soon I'll be running AMD64 :-))



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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Lars Schimmer
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Jo Shields wrote:
 Adam Stiles wrote:
 
 On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:01, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
  

 Hi,

 Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?

 I used:
 deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
 and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).

 But azureus causes java to segfault
   


 There is now a version of Sun Java 1.5 for AMD64.  It's not available
 as a .deb file, but the self-extracting executable  {not the RPM} 
 works reasonably well.

  

 make-jpkg works fine on the amd64 .run files
 
 still no browser plugin, though

And azureus still crashes:
azureus
#
# An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x2ae50656, pid=5135, tid=46912501814992
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (1.5.0_05-b05 mixed mode)
# Problematic frame:
# C  [libc.so.6+0x74656]
#
# An error report file with more information is saved as hs_err_pid5135.log
#
# If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
#   http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp
#
Aborted

So, no luck for us.

Cya
Lars
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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 01:22:22PM +0200, Lars Schimmer wrote:
  make-jpkg works fine on the amd64 .run files
  still no browser plugin, though
 
 And azureus still crashes:

Or more specifically the jvm crashes. Whatever input you have should not
cause a crash...

So is it just azureus, or is the jre on amd64 generally unstable?


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X.org installing over Xfree86

2005-10-11 Thread gr()und
hello,

i cant install xfree86 on my turion machine.
i try to get xfree86-xserver because and it depends on xserver-common_4.3 :

---snip--
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  xserver-xfree86: Depends: xserver-common (= 4.3.0.dfsg.1-5) but it is
not going to be installed
---snip-

When i try to get xserver-common then the ersion for X.org 6.8. installs:

-snip---
Selecting previously deselected package xserver-common.
(Reading database ... 30174 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking xserver-common (from
.../xserver-common_6.8.2.dfsg.1-8_amd64.deb) ...
Setting up xserver-common (6.8.2.dfsg.1-8) ...
snip-

in the mailinglist i found only this message about it:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/07/msg00545.html but no
solution.

How do i install xfree86 4.3 ?

regards,

gnd/



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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Michael Haupt
Hi,

On 10/11/05, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So is it just azureus, or is the jre on amd64 generally unstable?

the AMD64 port of Sun Java 5 runs Eclipse 3.1 on my box. It crashes
occasionally during CVS operations. I don't have any of the crash logs
right now, though. :-/

Best,

Michael



Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Frank
I cannot confirm this, Blackdown and Azureus are working fine for me.
I am running Blackdown's 1.4.2 (from the testing archive [0]) and Azureus 
2.3.0.4 directly from upstream.

[0] deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian testing non-free

$ java -version
java version 1.4.2-02
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)

Azureus starts, quits and downloads (completed the Knoppix download) fine on 
my AMD64 system.

 Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?

 I used:
 deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
 and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).

 But azureus causes java to segfault


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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Graham Smith
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:42, Jo Shields wrote:
 Adam Stiles wrote:
 On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:01, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?
 
 I used:
 deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
 and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).
 
 But azureus causes java to segfault
 
 There is now a version of Sun Java 1.5 for AMD64.  It's not available as
 a .deb file, but the self-extracting executable  {not the RPM}  works
 reasonably well.

 make-jpkg works fine on the amd64 .run files

 still no browser plugin, though

My experience is that make-jpkg works fine for installing the amd64 Sun JVM 
but that it is basically not worth using unless you are using the box solely 
as a web server. The problem is that the Sun package (at least last time I 
checked which wasn't long ago) only came with a server mode version of the 
JVM which grabs all available memory. Client applications (NetBeans in my 
case) run like a three legged dog because they rely on the incremental GC 
offered by the client mode VM.

After struggling with trying to use the server mode VM for a couple of days I 
switched to the 32 bit version. I found it works best with the 32 libs 
package installed rather than trying to use the libs out of a chroot.

Graham


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running vncserver?

2005-10-11 Thread Thomas Besser
Hi,

found quite old bug reports
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276948,
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276238), but it seems they
are always atcual: vncserver crashes on startup or even does not compile.

Is there no way to get any vncserver (tight, vnc3, vnc4) to run on amd64?

Regards
Thomas


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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Mike
blackdown works great for me.  Installed deb package.  Web applets, jar 
files everything works as far as I can see.
- Original Message - 
From: Jo Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Adam Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: state of Java on amd64



Adam Stiles wrote:


On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:01, Hamish Moffatt wrote:


Hi,

Is there anything special to getting the JRE running on amd64?

I used:
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian sid non-free
and installed the j2re1.4 package (it's a blackdown.org mirror).

But azureus causes java to segfault



There is now a version of Sun Java 1.5 for AMD64.  It's not available as a 
.deb file, but the self-extracting executable  {not the RPM}  works 
reasonably well.




make-jpkg works fine on the amd64 .run files

still no browser plugin, though


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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Paulo Marcondes
2005/10/11, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 blackdown works great for me.  Installed deb package.  Web applets, jar
 files everything works as far as I can see.

Are you running them from the chroot or are you using amd64-archive?

I am trying to set up a debian workstation/desktop on a sun w2100z
machine (dual opteron250, 8 gigs ram), and I am not sure as to which
course of action I should take.

Now the machine is  running CentOS (which is RH based, or even the
same as RH, but without the RH trademarks)

Thanks,
Paulo Marcondes,
petroleum geophysicist
Rio de Janeiro



Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:15:20AM -0500, Mike wrote:
 blackdown works great for me.  Installed deb package.  Web applets, jar 
 files everything works as far as I can see.

And azureus? :)

thanks,
Hamish
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Fortran Binary files AMD64 x i686

2005-10-11 Thread Marcelo Vitola
Dear list,

I have some problems with a FORTRAN binary file creates in
amd64 (kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8, g77 version 3.3.5) when I try to read
it in a Pentium IV (kernel 2.6.8-2-686, g77 version 3.3.5). Someone
knows if is this normal? There is some way to solve this problem?

 -- Marcelo Vitola





Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Mike

Sorry,

I'm running from pure amd64 sid (No chroot) .  I have not tried azures.  I 
got the blackdown .deb package and installed it.  It automagically setup my 
browsers to run applets.  I've have only run a few simple applets, and 
moneydance with it.  I'd would fret trying it, since it can easily be 
removed.



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From: Paulo Marcondes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: state of Java on amd64


2005/10/11, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

blackdown works great for me.  Installed deb package.  Web applets, jar
files everything works as far as I can see.


Are you running them from the chroot or are you using amd64-archive?

I am trying to set up a debian workstation/desktop on a sun w2100z
machine (dual opteron250, 8 gigs ram), and I am not sure as to which
course of action I should take.

Now the machine is  running CentOS (which is RH based, or even the
same as RH, but without the RH trademarks)

Thanks,
Paulo Marcondes,
petroleum geophysicist
Rio de Janeiro



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Re: eth0 down after upgrade

2005-10-11 Thread Craig Hagerman
On 10/11/05, Tobias Krais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sounds interesting, but please tell me more. One hint in advance. Use
 the new driver for your Ralink wireless card. Then ra0 changes to eth1.
 Now, please paste /etc/network/interfaces.

The Ralink driver is already the newest. (Hasn't been updated since
sometime in 2004)

/etc/network/interfaces --
...
## The loopback network interface ###
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

### The primary network interface ###

#iface eth0 inet dhcp
iface eth0 inet static
address 220.42.128.76
netmask 255.255.252.0
gateway 220.42.131.254

### The wireless network interface ###

iface ra0 inet dhcp
wireless-essid YahooBB

auto ra0
...

NOTE - Until recently I had only the dhcp line in the above. I
rebooted into windows, did an ipconfig and then entered that exact
information in (above) as static ip information. (Yeah, I know the
netmask is non-standard and the gateway is 131 instead of 128 ... but
that is what the working configuation under windows displayed.)

Also, I added the line auto eth0 to the above, but after a restart
it has disappeared.

 Do you use a router or just a DSL modem?

It is a DSL modem with both wireless and ethernet. No separate router.

 Can you manually start your eth0 device? Try (supposing your network is
 192.168.1.0:
 ifconfig ra0 down
 ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.5 up
 route add default gw 192.168.1.1 and then ping your router.

Nope. This didn't work.

I have tried:
 ifconfig eth0 up
 /etc/init.d/networking restart

I have tried to activate / deactivate either of the eth0 or ra0
interfaces via the GUI. I have rebooted a few times as well. Nothing
has had any effect other than sometimes turning OFF the wireless.



Re: Fortran Binary files AMD64 x i686

2005-10-11 Thread Jo Shields

Marcelo Vitola wrote:


Dear list,

 I have some problems with a FORTRAN binary file creates in amd64 
(kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8, g77 version 3.3.5) when I try to read it in 
a Pentium IV (kernel 2.6.8-2-686, g77 version 3.3.5). Someone knows if 
is this normal? There is some  way to solve this problem?



 
--
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Erm... this might seem like a stupid question, but if you're compiling 
amd64-only code, why would the compiled code run on a 32-bit cpu? It's 
not going to work any more than SPARC binaries on ARM



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Re: X.org installing over Xfree86

2005-10-11 Thread ernestjw

You write in Subject :
Re: X.org installing over Xfree86

but inside email :
 How do i install xfree86 4.3 ?

Which one do you want ? installing x.org over XFree86 or installing
XFree86 over x.org ?

Debian is migrating away from XFree86, so the second choice will not
remain (because of licencing issues).

Just for the record : x.org is _not_ equal too XFree86, even though they
have the same origin.

if you're trying to install x.org, it is normal that the dependancies try
to remove Xfree-xserver, and relace it with xorg-xserver (i think)

Ernest.


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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Craig Hagerman
On 10/11/05, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And azureus? :)


I had tons of problems with Azureus. I tried installing an older
version, upgrading to the newest and everything in-between. I found it
would crash if I was downloading a number of LARGE files at once. A
number of small files was OK. I finally got tired of waiting for a 1.5
from blackdown and installed the sun jre. I have still had a couple of
crashes, but it has been far better overall. My impression is that
there was a memory leak somewhere since the RAM used would slowly
creep up while running Azureus. Maybe that was just me.

Craig



Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Mike
Ok. Silly question.  Azures is a bitpim client right?  Why not just use 
btorrent (compiled c version, right of debian repository)?  Or I think there 
was a more fancy graphical bttorrent availabe too, runs in pure64?



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From: Craig Hagerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: state of Java on amd64


On 10/11/05, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


And azureus? :)



I had tons of problems with Azureus. I tried installing an older
version, upgrading to the newest and everything in-between. I found it
would crash if I was downloading a number of LARGE files at once. A
number of small files was OK. I finally got tired of waiting for a 1.5
from blackdown and installed the sun jre. I have still had a couple of
crashes, but it has been far better overall. My impression is that
there was a memory leak somewhere since the RAM used would slowly
creep up while running Azureus. Maybe that was just me.

Craig



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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 10:52:48PM +0900, Craig Hagerman wrote:
 On 10/11/05, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  And azureus? :)
 
 I had tons of problems with Azureus. I tried installing an older
 version, upgrading to the newest and everything in-between. I found it
 would crash if I was downloading a number of LARGE files at once. A
 number of small files was OK. I finally got tired of waiting for a 1.5
 from blackdown and installed the sun jre. I have still had a couple of
 crashes, but it has been far better overall. My impression is that
 there was a memory leak somewhere since the RAM used would slowly
 creep up while running Azureus. Maybe that was just me.

Thanks for the input.

Two questions then:
1. Can java-package install the Sun self-install package?
2. Where at sun.com do I actually download the files?! I browsed there
earlier and could only find instructions about which file to download,
but not actually how. Do I need to create an account?

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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Paulo Marcondes
2005/10/11, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Ok. Silly question.  Azures is a bitpim client right?  Why not just use
 btorrent (compiled c version, right of debian repository)?  Or I think there
 was a more fancy graphical bttorrent availabe too, runs in pure64?

Also I heard that nothing beats the original client's speed.
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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:57:09AM -0500, Mike wrote:
 Ok. Silly question.  Azures is a bitpim client right?  Why not just use 
 btorrent (compiled c version, right of debian repository)?  Or I think 
 there was a more fancy graphical bttorrent availabe too, runs in pure64?

I believe it manages multiple torrents etc. The advantage of multiple
torrents in a single client is firstly that it's easier to maintain but
secondly you can set a global upload cap.

I've been using g3torrent on Windows for this purpose, but want
something on Debian of course. g3 is written in python but seems to
segfault the python interpreter under Debian (hmm there's a trend here).

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user-mode-linux on Debian sid AMD64

2005-10-11 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi,

Okay, I've tried running user-mode-linux on AMD64.
I've been away from using user-mode-linux for a year,
and trying to catch up with what's been happening.
I might be doing something totally off (as I've not yet 
caught up with skas0 and stuff).

Anyway, this is what I've done so far.



Host kernel is Linus's git tree as of yesterday:

Linux dancer64 2.6.14-rc3dancer-gdd0fc66f #1 Mon Oct 10 12:25:11 JST 2005 
x86_64 GNU/Linux



I've built the guest kernel in the following manner, and
selected TT-mode only, with SKAS disabled.

$ make-kpkg clean
$ make mrproper ARCH=um
$ make menuconfig ARCH=um
$ make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot --arch=um --revision Custom.1.5.um kernel_image
$ sudo dpkg -i ../kernel-um*.deb

The following patch is applied, to make the thing compile.

diff --git a/arch/um/kernel/um_arch.c b/arch/um/kernel/um_arch.c
--- a/arch/um/kernel/um_arch.c
+++ b/arch/um/kernel/um_arch.c
@@ -334,8 +334,10 @@ int linux_main(int argc, char **argv)
add_arg(DEFAULT_COMMAND_LINE);

os_early_checks();
+#ifdef CONFIG_MODE_SKAS
if (force_tt)
clear_can_do_skas();
+#endif
mode_tt = force_tt ? 1 : !can_do_skas();
 #ifndef CONFIG_MODE_TT
if (mode_tt) {


Then running the result seems to give me an instant oops.

$ linux-2.6.14-rc4 root=/dev/root rootflags=/ rootfstype=hostfs init=/bin/sh 
con=pty con0=fd:0,fd:1
Checking PROT_EXEC mmap in /tmp...OK
UML running in TT mode
tracing thread pid = 22025
Checking that ptrace can change system call numbers...OK
Checking syscall emulation patch for ptrace...missing
Linux version 2.6.14-rc4-g907a4261 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.0.2 
(Debian 4.0.2-2)) #1 Tue Oct 11 17:27:50 JST 2005
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: root=/dev/root rootflags=/ rootfstype=hostfs init=/bin/sh 
con=pty con0=fd:0,fd:1
PID hash table entries: 256 (order: 8, 8192 bytes)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Memory: 27300k available
Mount-cache hash table entries: 256
Checking that host ptys support output SIGIO...Yes
Checking that host ptys support SIGIO on close...No, enabling workaround
Checking for /dev/anon on the host...Not available (open failed with errno 2)
softlockup thread 0 started up.
Disabling 2.6 AIO in tt mode
2.6 host AIO support not used - falling back to I/O thread
NET: Registered protocol family 16
mconsole (version 2) initialized on /home/dancer/.uml/MVMAge/mconsole
UML Audio Relay (host dsp = /dev/sound/dsp, host mixer = /dev/sound/mixer)
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 512 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered
io scheduler deadline registered
io scheduler cfq registered
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
nbd: registered device at major 43
PPP generic driver version 2.4.2
SLIP: version 0.8.4-NET3.019-NEWTTY (dynamic channels, max=256).
tun: Universal TUN/TAP device driver, 1.6
tun: (C) 1999-2004 Max Krasnyansky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP route cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 2048 bind 2048)
TCP reno registered
TCP bic registered
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17
Initialized stdio console driver
Console initialized on /dev/tty0
Initializing software serial port version 1
Failed to open 'root_fs', errno = 2
VFS: Mounted root (hostfs filesystem) readonly.
Kernel panic - not syncing: Kernel mode fault at addr 0x0, ip 0x0

Pid: 1, comm: sh Not tainted 2.6.14-rc4-g907a4261
RIP: c000:[]
RSP: 6044fc30  EFLAGS: 00010202
RAX: 0001 RBX:  RCX: 601a0e0a
RDX: 600326ae RSI: 0001 RDI: 6044fb00
RBP:  R08:  R09: 
R10: 0008 R11: 0246 R12: 
R13:  R14: 000a R15: 0009
Call Trace:
6044f6f8:  [60015cdf] panic_exit+0x2f/0x50
6044f718:  [6004801b] notifier_call_chain+0x2b/0x50
6044f748:  [60038354] panic+0xe4/0x180
6044f788:  [601a0e0a] __sigprocmask+0x4a/0xb0
6044f7b8:  [601186d7] __up_read+0x77/0xa0
6044f7d8:  [60014e22] handle_page_fault+0xb2/0x2c0
6044f838:  [600151fa] segv+0x1ca/0x2d0
6044f8b8:  [60012f31] change_signals+0x51/0x80
6044f928:  [6001559e] segv_handler+0x9e/0xb0
6044f968:  [60018aaa] sig_handler_common_tt+0xfa/0x1a0
6044f9d8:  [60032810] sig_handler+0x10/0x20
6044f9e8:  [601a0b90] __restore_rt+0x0/0x10
6044fa78:  [600326ae] run_kernel_thread+0x2e/0x50
6044fa88:  [601a0e0a] __sigprocmask+0x4a/0xb0
6044fae8:  [600326c1] run_kernel_thread+0x41/0x50
6044faf8:  [6000e1a0] init+0x0/0x140
6044fb38:  [600326ae] run_kernel_thread+0x2e/0x50
6044fbe8:  [60017033] new_thread_handler+0x113/0x130
6044fcd8:  

Re: Fortran Binary files AMD64 x i686

2005-10-11 Thread Jo Shields

Marcelo Vitola wrote:

Probably I was not clear in my question. I running a numerical model 
of Computational  fluid dynamic (CFD )in different computer (Athlon 64 
and Pentium IV). I would like to start them with the same initial 
binary file, what was created in the AMD64. This is my problem. When I 
use cray I need to convert the binary file from bigendian to little 
end to use it in the pentiumIV . What I would like to know is if this 
is necessary to do with the AMD64.


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Marcelo Vitola wrote:

 Dear list,

  I have some problems with a FORTRAN binary file creates in amd64
 (kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8, g77 version 3.3.5) when I try to read
it in
 a Pentium IV (kernel 2.6.8-2-686, g77 version 3.3.5). Someone
knows if
 is this normal? There is some  way to solve this problem?



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Erm... this might seem like a stupid question, but if you're compiling
amd64-only code, why would the compiled code run on a 32-bit cpu? It's
not going to work any more than SPARC binaries on ARM




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AMD64 chips can execute normal i686 code seamlessly - your issue comes 
in compiling some. It seems g77 on debian isn't set up to allow 
cross-compiling, so you'll need a 32-bit distro or 32-bit chroot on the 
AMD64 machine, in order to compile i686-compatible code. the resultant 
binary will be fine on amd64 or i686, with appropriate libraries in place



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Re: burning mds/mdf images for cd/dvd on linux?

2005-10-11 Thread Levi Bard
There's also a program to convert: http://mdf2iso.berlios.de/

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Re: Fortran Binary files AMD64 x i686

2005-10-11 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 10:31:54AM -0300, Marcelo Vitola wrote:

  I have some problems with a FORTRAN binary file creates in amd64 (kernel
 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8, g77 version 3.3.5) when I try to read it in a Pentium IV
 (kernel 2.6.8-2-686, g77 version 3.3.5). Someone knows if is this
 normal? There is some  way to solve this problem?

Yes, it is normal.

If you are talking about program binaries, then while AMD64 can emulate
a Pentium 4, the Pentium 4 cannot run code built for AMD64.  To solve
this problem you have to create those binary files using the same
architecture that you use for reading them.

If you are talking about data files rather than program files, you have
the extra option of changing the program to save the data in a way
(such as HDF or ASCII) that is independent from the architecture.


Ciao,

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Re: Heat problem with amd64 laptop

2005-10-11 Thread Sander
Igor Puschner wrote (ao):
  At the risk of starting a flamewar (not my intention) what would you
  recommend?

I'd recommend IBM (using a X40), but that's not 64bit yet.

 Well, and then there is Sony and the Vaio line. My former teacher used
 one and said he had no real problems with getting Linux up and running
 on it (i can't either confirm nor deny this, is there anyone with
 experiences who can help?)

Linux runs just fine on them, but boy are they fragile. I loved my C1VE.

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searching program on amd64 for...

2005-10-11 Thread Lars Schimmer
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Hi!

Anyone knows some amd64 software for:
- - unrar (yeah, unrar-free is available, but it doesn't extract any
multirars)
- - flash (libflash plugin let firefox and konquerer die on www.graz.at
everytime)
- - skype

Cya
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Re: Fortran Binary files AMD64 x i686

2005-10-11 Thread Adam Stiles
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 14:31, Marcelo Vitola wrote:
 Dear list,

 I have some problems with a FORTRAN binary file creates in amd64 (kernel
 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8, g77 version 3.3.5) when I try to read it in a Pentium IV
 (kernel 2.6.8-2-686, g77 version 3.3.5). Someone knows if is this normal?
 There is some way to solve this problem?

Are you sure you are actually setting your FORTRAN compiler to produce 80386  
{32-bit}  code rather than AMD64  {64-bit}  code?  I've never done 
cross-compilation, but I'm sure there is a howto somewhere.  The absolute 
worst case is that you will have to run a 32-bit g77 in a chroot.

If you just use the default settings, you will get an AMD64 binary from any 
source code you compile on an AMD64.  This will cause a 32-bit Intel chip to 
get its knickers in a knot.  Since 80386 instructions are a subset of AMD64 
instructions, the program might even appear to work for awhile -- until it 
hits upon a new instruction.

Try using the `file` command on the compiler's output and seeing what kind of 
executable it is.  For example, this is what I see when doing `file /bin/ls` 
on a 32-bit and a 64-bit machine respectively:

32bitmachine # file /bin/ls
/bin/ls: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for 
GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
64bitmachine # file /bin/ls
/bin/ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for 
GNU/Linux 2.4.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped

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Re: searching program on amd64 for...

2005-10-11 Thread Adam Stiles
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 15:39, Lars Schimmer wrote:
 Hi!

 Anyone knows some amd64 software for:
 - unrar (yeah, unrar-free is available, but it doesn't extract any
 multirars)

I believe 7-zip can extract RAR archives.  Though this began as a Windows 
thing, it was released Open Source and has since been ported to other 
architectures including Linux.

 - flash (libflash plugin let firefox and konquerer die on www.graz.at
 everytime)

Have a look at the GPLflash project on SourceForge.  It's not perfect yet by a 
long stretch, but probably is getting worked on more now there is a more 
pressing need for it.

 - skype

There are quite a few Open Source VOIP phone clients out there.  Personally, 
I'd use a hardware SIP telephone such as a Grandstream BudgeTone or one of 
the Zultys ZIP series everytime.

If you have to run closed-source software, you'll most probably be stuck in a 
chroot.  It's best for everyone if you contact the vendors concerned and 
request politely but firmly that they release their products as Open Source.

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Re: running vncserver?

2005-10-11 Thread Thomas
All the standard VNC servers for which there are packages fail to run for me 
(They all segfault in the same library call).

However, I am able to run x11vnc, which shares a currently running X session 
instead of implementing it's own X server.  You could probably fake the 
behavior of a standard VNC server by starting a dummy X server and connecting 
x11vnc to that. I haven't tried this method though, as I am content to just 
use my currently running desktop when I need a VNC connection.

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On Tuesday 11 October 2005 08:33, Thomas Besser wrote:
 Hi,

 found quite old bug reports
 (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276948,
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276238), but it seems they
 are always atcual: vncserver crashes on startup or even does not compile.

 Is there no way to get any vncserver (tight, vnc3, vnc4) to run on amd64?

 Regards
 Thomas


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Re: eth0 down after upgrade

2005-10-11 Thread mikepolniak
On 22:38 Tue 11 Oct , Craig Hagerman wrote:
 On 10/11/05, Tobias Krais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  sounds interesting, but please tell me more. One hint in advance. Use
  the new driver for your Ralink wireless card. Then ra0 changes to eth1.
  Now, please paste /etc/network/interfaces.
 
 The Ralink driver is already the newest. (Hasn't been updated since
 sometime in 2004)
 
 /etc/network/interfaces --
 ...
 ## The loopback network interface ###
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback
 
 ### The primary network interface ###
 
 #iface eth0 inet dhcp
 iface eth0 inet static
 address 220.42.128.76
 netmask 255.255.252.0
 gateway 220.42.131.254
 
 ### The wireless network interface ###
 
 iface ra0 inet dhcp
 wireless-essid YahooBB
 
 auto ra0
 ...
 
 NOTE - Until recently I had only the dhcp line in the above. I
 rebooted into windows, did an ipconfig and then entered that exact
 information in (above) as static ip information. (Yeah, I know the
 netmask is non-standard and the gateway is 131 instead of 128 ... but
 that is what the working configuation under windows displayed.)
 
 Also, I added the line auto eth0 to the above, but after a restart
 it has disappeared.
 
  Do you use a router or just a DSL modem?
 
 It is a DSL modem with both wireless and ethernet. No separate router.
 
  Can you manually start your eth0 device? Try (supposing your network is
  192.168.1.0:
  ifconfig ra0 down
  ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.5 up
  route add default gw 192.168.1.1 and then ping your router.
 
 Nope. This didn't work.
 
 I have tried:
  ifconfig eth0 up
  /etc/init.d/networking restart
 
 I have tried to activate / deactivate either of the eth0 or ra0
 interfaces via the GUI. I have rebooted a few times as well. Nothing
 has had any effect other than sometimes turning OFF the wireless.
 
edit your /etc/network/interfaces to use dhcp this will reset
/etc/resolv.conf and get your interfaces up

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp


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Re: searching program on amd64 for...

2005-10-11 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 04:39:28PM +0200, Lars Schimmer wrote:
 - - unrar (yeah, unrar-free is available, but it doesn't extract any
 multirars)

unrar-nonfree is in non-free and not distributable in the unofficial
archive. But you can build it yourself adding an official mirror to your
sources list (deb-src) and apt-get source it.

 - - flash (libflash plugin let firefox and konquerer die on www.graz.at
 everytime)

blame macromedia, they don't have released a flash plugin for amd64 yet.


 skype

no idea on that, sorry.

Best regards
Frederik Schueler

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Re: searching program on amd64 for...

2005-10-11 Thread Matthias Julius
Adam Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If you have to run closed-source software, you'll most probably be stuck in a 
 chroot.  It's best for everyone if you contact the vendors concerned and 
 request politely but firmly that they release their products as Open Source.

The Skype client will probably run happyly with the ia32-libs
package.  If it doesn't you can find out which libs it wants by
running ldd /path/to/skype.

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Re: searching program on amd64 for...

2005-10-11 Thread Yannick - Debian/Linux

Lars Schimmer a écrit :


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Hi!

Anyone knows some amd64 software for:
- - unrar (yeah, unrar-free is available, but it doesn't extract any
multirars)
 



I iuse this one, works great as far i tried it.

http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrar-linux-amd64.gz

Regards


- - flash (libflash plugin let firefox and konquerer die on www.graz.at
everytime)
- - skype

Cya
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Re: eth0 down after upgrade

2005-10-11 Thread Tobias Krais
Hi Craig,

sounds interesting, but please tell me more. One hint in advance. Use
the new driver for your Ralink wireless card. Then ra0 changes to eth1.
Now, please paste /etc/network/interfaces.
 
 
 The Ralink driver is already the newest. (Hasn't been updated since
 sometime in 2004)

apt-cache search ralink

There is a new and far better version. Well it will not solve your
problems, but anyway.

 /etc/network/interfaces --

 iface eth0 inet static
 address 220.42.128.76
 netmask 255.255.252.0
 gateway 220.42.131.254

 iface ra0 inet dhcp
 wireless-essid YahooBB
 
 auto ra0

For me it seems that you want to connect with two interfaces to the same
router. Does the router like this? Have you tried just bringing up eth0
on start?

Thats my config for comparison. When I try to bring up both, I have
routing problems.
-%-
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.1.7
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.1.0
broadcast 192.168.1.255
gateway 192.168.1.1

# Wireless eth1
auto eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.1.6
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.1.0
broadcast 192.168.1.255
gateway 192.168.1.1
-%-

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Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Scott Wolchok
On 10/11/05, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:57:09AM -0500, Mike wrote:
  Ok. Silly question.  Azures is a bitpim client right?  Why not just use
  btorrent (compiled c version, right of debian repository)?  Or I think
  there was a more fancy graphical bttorrent availabe too, runs in pure64?

 I believe it manages multiple torrents etc. The advantage of multiple
 torrents in a single client is firstly that it's easier to maintain but
 secondly you can set a global upload cap.

Pretty sure that the original client and bittornado include
btdownloadcurses (possibly called btdownloadcurses.py) which takes a
directory name to search for torrents on startup and then manages
those torrents. Upload capping and everything should work.



Re: state of Java on amd64

2005-10-11 Thread Miguel Griffa
The sun jdk crashes easily,  I started 1.5 with eclipse 3.1 and just
leaving eclipse alone the jdk will segfault, the same happened with
tomcat and a mad webapp I have here (not tomcat alone)
I managed to run eclipse fine with bea jrockit jdk which performs really good
I also had downloaded blackdown and ibm jdk (all for amd64) and
blackdown works well for firefox and applets
but IMHO general state of java for amd64 pretty much sucks, I
submitted a bug to sun and the response was misserable.
also, you may notice that tou can try mustang, which I didnt' find any
problem in amd64


On 10/11/05, Scott Wolchok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/11/05, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:57:09AM -0500, Mike wrote:
   Ok. Silly question.  Azures is a bitpim client right?  Why not just use
   btorrent (compiled c version, right of debian repository)?  Or I think
   there was a more fancy graphical bttorrent availabe too, runs in pure64?
 
  I believe it manages multiple torrents etc. The advantage of multiple
  torrents in a single client is firstly that it's easier to maintain but
  secondly you can set a global upload cap.

 Pretty sure that the original client and bittornado include
 btdownloadcurses (possibly called btdownloadcurses.py) which takes a
 directory name to search for torrents on startup and then manages
 those torrents. Upload capping and everything should work.




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Re: mplayer

2005-10-11 Thread hjalmar
When I run mplayer -v movie as root I get the following as below,

 Run mplayer with the -v switch, it'll print some debug output to give an
 idea of what it's trying to do. For instance, when running it here, I get
 this during the mplayer xv startup:
 
 X11 opening display: :0.0
 vo: X11 color mask:  FF  (R:FF G:FF00 B:FF)
 vo: X11 running at 1680x1050 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (:0.0 = local
 display)
 [x11] Detected wm supports layers.
 [x11] Detected wm supports NetWM.
 [x11] Detected wm supports FULLSCREEN state.
 [x11] Detected wm supports ABOVE state.
 [x11] Detected wm supports BELOW state.
 [x11] Current fstype setting honours LAYER FULLSCREEN ABOVE BELOW X atoms
 Disabling DPMS
 DPMSDisable stat: 1
 [xv common] Drawing colorkey manually.
 [xv common] Using colorkey from Xv (0x0101fe).
 Opening video filter: [lavcdeint]
 
 
 Jim.

When I run it as a normal user I get basically the same output as I do for
root but from this point on it is different

using /dev/fb0
==
Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough
VDec: vo config request - 352 x 240 (preferred csp: Mpeg PES)
Trying filter chain: vo
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
SwScale params: -1 x -1 (-1=no scaling)
Trying filter chain: scale vo
The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
VDecoder init failed :(
Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2] MPEG 1/2 Video decoder libmpeg2-v0.4.0b
Selected video codec: [mpeg12] vfm:libmpeg2 (MPEG-1 or 2 (libmpeg2))
==
Checking audio filter chain for 44100Hz/2ch/s16le - 44100Hz/2ch/s16le...
[libaf] Adding filter dummy 
[dummy] Was reinitialized: 44100Hz/2ch/s16le
AF_pre: 44100Hz/2ch/s16le
ao2: 44100 Hz  2 chans  s16le
audio_setup: using '/dev/dsp' dsp device
audio_setup: using '/dev/mixer' mixer device
audio_setup: using 'pcm' mixer device
audio_setup: sample format: s16le (requested: s16le)
audio_setup: using 2 channels (requested: 2)
audio_setup: using 44100 Hz samplerate (requested: 44100)
audio_setup: frags:   8/8  (4096 bytes/frag)  free:  32768
AO: [oss] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bps)
AO: Description: OSS/ioctl audio output
AO: Author: A'rpi
Building audio filter chain for 44100Hz/2ch/s16le - 44100Hz/2ch/s16le...
[dummy] Was reinitialized: 44100Hz/2ch/s16le
[dummy] Was reinitialized: 44100Hz/2ch/s16le
Starting playback...
VDec: vo config request - 352 x 240 (preferred csp: Planar YV12)
Trying filter chain: vo
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
SwScale params: -1 x -1 (-1=no scaling)
Trying filter chain: scale vo
The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.

FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).

Uninit audio filters...
[libaf] Removing filter dummy 
uninit audio: mp3lib
uninit video: libmpeg2
Can't restore text mode: Invalid argument

Exiting... (End of file)

Clyde


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