chroot and debian_chroot file?

[Joost Kraaijeveld]

Hi,

How can I see in which chroot I am in? I have created a file
debian_chroot with the contents "sarge-ia32" (without quotes) in
the /etc directory of my chroot, and based on the comments and script in
my ~/.bashrc I expected to see throught my prompt that I was in a chroot
but that did not happen.

Can anyone shine some light on that?

TIA 

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Re: Configure Wireless ADSL

[antonio giulio]

> Plug in a normal network link set to dhcp.  Then it should work.
>
> Getting wireless to work requires setting up things with iwconfig or
> weproamd or one of the other wireless network tools.
>
> I don't know much about it other than it does need some setup.

I have used a new setting

# iwconfig wlan0 rate auto
# iwconfig wlan0 mode Ad-Hoc
# iwconfig wlan0 channel 11
# iwconfig wlan0 key s:WEP_KEY enc open
# iwconfig wlan0 essid any
# ifconfig wlan0 up
# dhclient wlan0

and now 'wlan0 channel' doesn't return error, but it doesn't work again.

Giulio

Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

[Adam Skutt]

Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

The question is wether linux supports it too in that mode. It has to
remap the 64bit page tables into the strange 64GB address setup.

I think you're still confusing things here.

When a x86_64 process is not in long-mode (i.e., 64-bit virtual 
addressing), it is a IA-32 processor.  That includes supporting PAE. 
There is no 64-bit remapping to be done, because the PTEs are still 32bits.


Whne it's in long mode (i.e., 64-bit virtual addressing), it has 48bits 
of physical addressing space to begin with.  That totally precludes the 
need for PAE, so it doesn't need it.


Remember, PAE is a physical addressing trick, to allow mapping of 32-bit 
virtual addresses to a 36-bit physical address space.


In long mode, such tricks aren't needed, as the addressing is 64-bit 
virtual and 48-bit physical.





IF. That is the big question.
It does.  Because you wouldn't be booting a x86_64 kernel, but a plain 
x86 one.


Adam


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Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

[Adam Skutt]

Jonathan Lewis wrote:


I've been wondering this myself while watching the whole debate about 
memory lol  Especially after a quick search shows up 1gig sticks as 
the largest out there now...

You can get 2GB and even 4GB sticks, if you know how.

 So someone would need a board with 32

memory slots right now? (or 64 for the 64gig limit i suppose?)

Dual-socket Opteron motherboards support 16GB ram on 8 slots.

Boards that support more are custom, and expensive.

Can 
any actually TEST the issue? I know I can't afford to TRY lmao

Yes, how do you suppose the kernel developers add the support?

IBM sells 8-way Xeon boxes that support 32GB+ RAM.

Adam


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Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

[Jonathan Lewis]

On 10/13/05, lordSauron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
just wondering, but do any of us here even *have* that much RAM?  Icount myself obscenely lucky to have 512 megs, much less a whole gig,or 32!!!  the only boards that I know of that support that much memoryare multi-processor boards, anyways, made by Tyan.  Imagine a 4-CPU
board with 32 gigs or so of RAM decked out with four witheringly-fastAMD dual-core Opteron 64s?  That's also many hundreds (perhapsthousands) of times more than I can afford, but you've got to admit,AMD does have poor little Intel beat by a rather impressive margin.
This also means, in a more on-topic point, that any linux OS thatcould actually *use* the 32 gigs would need to be amulti-cpu/multi-core distro, since there are no boards (to myknowledge) that support a whole 32 gigs for *one* CPU.
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 ===I've
been wondering this myself while watching the whole debate about
memory lol  Especially after a quick search shows up 1gig
sticks as the largest out there now... So someone would need a board
with 32 memory slots right now? (or 64 for the 64gig limit i suppose?)
heh Unless I'm missing something here that seems like a LOT of memory
sticks to cram on a mobo Which makes me wonder about the whole
debate. Can any actually TEST the issue? I know I can't afford to
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Re: Open Office 2.0

[Juergen Albers]

Hi,

> Ok, I suppose someone has got to ask this.

Yes. ;)

>> Are their plans to make an OOo 2.0 .deb for AMD64? AIUI it should 
>> compile for AMD64 so I assume there will be a package eventually. 
>> It's now in the RC stage so I presume it is close to being ready.
>> If there are plans when can we expect to see it appear as I am really 
>> fed up of maintaining a chroot?

before it's an official release, you can do it like this, I think:

> 1) Loading of openoffice.org2_1.9.121-2.diff.gz,
>openoffice.org2_1.9.121-2.dsc, openoffice.org2_1.9.121.orig.tar.gz
>from the location
> http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64/pool/main/o/openoffice.org2/
> 
> 2) In the loading directory I have given the following commands
>dpkg-source -x openoffice.org2_1.9.121-2.dsc
>cd openoffice.org2_1.9.121
> 3) I have edited the file debian/control with "vi debian/control" and
>I have changed all the occurrence i386 (near Architecture)
>with amd64.
> 
> Note: I don't remember if I have also adjusted the Dependencies
> 
> 4) I have given the command
>dpkg-buildpackage
>which have constructed many packages.
> 
> which I found in this list-archive of one month ago...
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/09/msg00019.html

When it will be added officially on debain-amd64, I don'nt know. 
But the basic official release of OOo2 will be on 14th of October, I 
think...

regards, 
sigi.


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Re: Open Office 2.0

[sigi]

Hi,

> Ok, I suppose someone has got to ask this.

Yes. ;)

>> Are their plans to make an OOo 2.0 .deb for AMD64? AIUI it should
>> compile for AMD64 so I assume there will be a package eventually.
>> It's now in the RC stage so I presume it is close to being ready.
>> If there are plans when can we expect to see it appear as I am 
>> really fed up of maintaining a chroot?

before it's an official release, you can do it like this, I think:

> 1) Loading of openoffice.org2_1.9.121-2.diff.gz,
>openoffice.org2_1.9.121-2.dsc, 
>openoffice.org2_1.9.121.orig.tar.gz
>from the location
> http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64/pool/main/o/openoffice.org2/
>
> 2) In the loading directory I have given the following commands
>dpkg-source -x openoffice.org2_1.9.121-2.dsc
>cd openoffice.org2_1.9.121
> 3) I have edited the file debian/control with "vi debian/control" and
>I have changed all the occurrence i386 (near Architecture)
>with amd64.
>
> Note: I don't remember if I have also adjusted the Dependencies
>
> 4) I have given the command
>dpkg-buildpackage
>which have constructed many packages.
>
> which I found in this list-archive of one month ago...
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/09/msg00019.html

When it will be added officially on debain-amd64, I don'nt know.
But the basic official release of OOo2 will be on 14th of October, I
think...

regards,
sigi.


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Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

[lordSauron]

just wondering, but do any of us here even *have* that much RAM?  I
count myself obscenely lucky to have 512 megs, much less a whole gig,
or 32!!!  the only boards that I know of that support that much memory
are multi-processor boards, anyways, made by Tyan.  Imagine a 4-CPU
board with 32 gigs or so of RAM decked out with four witheringly-fast
AMD dual-core Opteron 64s?  That's also many hundreds (perhaps
thousands) of times more than I can afford, but you've got to admit,
AMD does have poor little Intel beat by a rather impressive margin.


This also means, in a more on-topic point, that any linux OS that
could actually *use* the 32 gigs would need to be a
multi-cpu/multi-core distro, since there are no boards (to my
knowledge) that support a whole 32 gigs for *one* CPU.
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Re: error ! when mplayer start

[sigi]

Hi,

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:43:11PM +0200, Azore wrote:
> Mplayer open a window error when it started: "New_Face failed. Maybe the font 
> path is wrong.
> please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)"
> 

I just copied the file /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf into my homedir as 
~/.mplayer.config and uncommented the last three lines as follows

snip--

# get a default OSD font from fontconfig
fontconfig = yes
font = "Sans"
subfont-text-scale = 3

snap--

and it all worked. 

greets,
sigi.


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Re: mouse config causes Xserver to crash

[Ted Kisner]

On Thursday 13 October 2005 16:03, Craig Hagerman wrote:
> Ethernet is not
> working - is there a module for that?

probably, unless it is compiled into your kernel or was not built as a module.  
Are you using the stock kernel that was set up during installation?  If so 
then the necessary module is almost certainly available.  Try looking at the 
output of "lspci" and see what type of ethernet card you have.  You can 
either load the required module by hand or run something like discover to 
load the necessary modules at boot up.

-Ted


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Re: mouse config causes Xserver to crash

[Craig Hagerman]

PROBLEM SOLVED
-

On 10/14/05, Ted Kisner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That would use the standard "mouse" X driver
> (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o), which should be installed if you
> have an xserver installed.
>
> I'm assuming that you have the proper kernel modules (usb, etc) installed?
> The mouse shows up in /prob/bus/usb/devices, correct?
>

Ah-hah. The driver is there, but the kernel modules aren't. Why would
I suddenly have no kernel modules related to a USB mouse? For some
reason the rt2500 (wireless card) module and nvidia modules were also
not being loaded. None of these were in /etc/modules. Strange. I
wonder what other modules are not getting loaded now. Ethernet is not
working - is there a module for that? I added the following to
/etc/modules:

ehci-hcd
usbmouse
mousedev

and the mouse worked again. (But not the right button.) I had to
manually get modules ehci-hcd, hid, ohci-hcd, usbkbd, usbhid (using
modconf). Then modprobe to get them going. After a bit more reading on
the net I checked and discovered that hotplug is NOT installed. It had
been removed in the recent upgrade. I apt-get installed hotplug -
which in turn removed gnome-volume-manager, hal, udev. I have also
read some things here and there from people saying that udev caused
them problems. I am not really sure  what these three things are used
for.

Now, on a reboot, /etc/modules has the following being automatically
added by sensors-detect:

usbhid
ohci-hcd
usbkbd

and the mouse is working perfectly. (Right-click works again.)
NOTE: I used these web pages which detail similar problems:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/26/2003/12/1/118534
http://www.issociate.de/board/post/244694/X_(core_input_device)_probs_under_Debian_unstable.html


Now if I can figure out why eth0 is not being detected

Craig

Re: Maple10 on debian amd64

[Mike]

I'd email maplesoft.  Your better off installing jre using the debian way. 
See if you can somehow get the maple files extracted out of that installer 
file and set it up in your home directory or something, so it doesn't 
install stuff all over your system.


- Original Message - 
From: "Lars Schimmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:53 PM
Subject: Maple10 on debian amd64



Hi!

I tried to install Maple 10 64bit single edition on amd64 debian, mostly 
unstable, some stable packages.


I got errors:

Unpacking the JRE...
Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory
dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
/bin/ls: error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
basename: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
basename: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory


Launching installer...

grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory
./LinuxX86_64Installer.bin: line 2312: 
/tmp/install.dir.4106/Linux/resource/jre/bin/java: No such file or 
directory
./LinuxX86_64Installer.bin: line 2312: 
/tmp/install.dir.4106/Linux/resource/jre/bin/java: Success


So, the libc seems to be the prob, any ideas?

Cya
Lars
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Maple10 on debian amd64

[Lars Schimmer]

Hi!

I tried to install Maple 10 64bit single edition on amd64 debian, mostly 
unstable, some stable packages.


I got errors:

Unpacking the JRE...
Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
/bin/ls: error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
basename: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
basename: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory


Launching installer...

grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
./LinuxX86_64Installer.bin: line 2312: 
/tmp/install.dir.4106/Linux/resource/jre/bin/java: No such file or directory
./LinuxX86_64Installer.bin: line 2312: 
/tmp/install.dir.4106/Linux/resource/jre/bin/java: Success


So, the libc seems to be the prob, any ideas?

Cya
Lars
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error ! when mplayer start

[Azore]

hi,
Mplayer open a window error when it started: "New_Face failed. Maybe the 
font path is wrong.
please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)"

Azore




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Re: Configure Wireless ADSL

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 10:05:48PM +0200, antonio giulio wrote:
> yes, this is the problem. Router uses address 192.168.1.1 to configure
> it, but with browser or by ping 192.168.1.1 I don't get nothing
> (unreachable).

Plug in a normal network link set to dhcp.  Then it should work.

Getting wireless to work requires setting up things with iwconfig or
weproamd or one of the other wireless network tools.

I don't know much about it other than it does need some setup.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Hi, Help please

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 03:20:48AM +0800, Keith Poole wrote:
> Hi my name is Keith, and i would appreciate some help please
>  I currently have 2x250gb sata drives on an AMD64. i would like to know how
> to install debian onto this raid.

How about some information about the motherboard, the chipset of the
ide/sata controller, etc.

Debian supports some reaid controllers and supports software raid just
fine on them (I run a number of machines with dual sata raid1).

Can't do anything without knowing the hardware though.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Configure Wireless ADSL

[antonio giulio]

> > yes, this is the problem. Router uses address 192.168.1.1 to configure
> > it, but with browser or by ping 192.168.1.1 I don't get nothing
> > (unreachable).
> >
>
> You might try giving your interface a static address in the same subnet,
> e.g. 192.168.1.5

I have launched:

# iwconfig wlan0 rate auto
# iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
# iwconfig wlan0 channel 11
# iwconfig wlan0 key s:WEP_KEY enc open
# iwconfig wlan0 essid node-name

in 'channel 11' I got error (not selectable)

at the end:

# ifconfig wlan0 up
# dhclient wlan0

but it doesn't work...

Giulio

Re: Configure Wireless ADSL

[Don Hayward]

Configure the router to connect to ADSL.  It should have a web or telnet
interface you can reach using the wired network ports.

Once that is done, you can worry about connecting to the wireless part.
At that point it is just wireless ethernet with probably dhcp to get the
settings from the router.

There is no ADSL settings at all on the linux side since the ADSL ends
at the router.


yes, this is the problem. Router uses address 192.168.1.1 to configure
it, but with browser or by ping 192.168.1.1 I don't get nothing
(unreachable).



You might try giving your interface a static address in the same subnet,
e.g. 192.168.1.5

Don


Don Hayward at pomobuli.net
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, antonio giulio wrote:


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java for firefox?

[trango]

Hi everybody.
I was just wondering why can I simply say to konqueror the path for
the "java" binary and make it work (not as nice as i would like, but
definately works) and I can't find a way to do the same for firefox,
which I would prefer to use as I'm used to it. Does anyone know any
way to make it work just as konqueror?

Thanks

trango

Re: Configure Wireless ADSL

[antonio giulio]

> Configure the router to connect to ADSL.  It should have a web or telnet
> interface you can reach using the wired network ports.
>
> Once that is done, you can worry about connecting to the wireless part.
> At that point it is just wireless ethernet with probably dhcp to get the
> settings from the router.
>
> There is no ADSL settings at all on the linux side since the ADSL ends
> at the router.

yes, this is the problem. Router uses address 192.168.1.1 to configure
it, but with browser or by ping 192.168.1.1 I don't get nothing
(unreachable).

Giulio

Hi, Help please

[Keith Poole]

Hi my name is Keith, and i would appreciate some help please
 
I currently have 2x250gb sata drives on an AMD64. i would like to know how to install debian onto this raid.
 
Thankyou very much
-Keith Poole

Re: Configure Wireless ADSL

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 07:31:03PM +0200, antonio giulio wrote:
> now that inprocomm 2220 is working, I have bought a Modem/Router ADSL.
> However reading various HOWTO I have many confusion again.
> 
> with 'ifconfig wlan0' I can see right infos.
> And now? How can I set my adsl configuration?!?!? What are the steps?
> I want set connection on boot automatically. How can I do it?

Configure the router to connect to ADSL.  It should have a web or telnet
interface you can reach using the wired network ports.

Once that is done, you can worry about connecting to the wireless part.
At that point it is just wireless ethernet with probably dhcp to get the
settings from the router.

There is no ADSL settings at all on the linux side since the ADSL ends
at the router.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Troubles installing Debian on an ASUS notebook

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 07:43:36PM +0200, Emmanuel Guiton wrote:
> Thanks! I got it running with the sarge-amd64-2.6.12-netinst.iso 
>  
> at http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/amd64/

Yay!  It fixed another one.

> Still, it doesn't tell why the other installs did not work. For more 
> information, here are the answers to the few questions people asked:

I think there is some lack of support for the sis chipset in 2.6.8 then.

> The specifications of my notebook:
> ASUS A6QK30-RWDL
> Processor : AMD Turion 64 MT30 1,6 Ghz
> Cache memory L2 : 1 MB
> Chipset: SIS 756 + SIS 964L
> 512 MB DDR 333 memory
> Screen : 15.4" WXGA Color Shine
> Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce Go 6200 Turbo Cache 256Mo
> 
> Yes, the i386 sarge netinstall works on it.

Using default boot (2.4) or using linux26 (2.6.8 kernel)?

> I've tried the "linux26" tip at boot prompt and the only change was 
> "Could not find kernel image: linux26" instead of "Could not find kernel 
> image: linux" ...

amd64 only has 2.6 kernels.  i386 has 2.4 by default and 2.6 if you ask
for it.

> That's it folks!
> Thanks to all of you.

Len Sorensen


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Re: mouse config causes Xserver to crash

[Ted Kisner]

On Thursday 13 October 2005 10:34, Craig Hagerman wrote:
> USB mouse. Anyone know what driver I am supposed to install for this?

That would use the standard "mouse" X driver 
(/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o), which should be installed if you 
have an xserver installed.  

I'm assuming that you have the proper kernel modules (usb, etc) installed?  
The mouse shows up in /prob/bus/usb/devices, correct?

-Ted


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Re: Troubles installing Debian on an ASUS notebook

[Emmanuel Guiton]

Hi again!

Thanks! I got it running with the sarge-amd64-2.6.12-netinst.iso 
 
at http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/amd64/


Still, it doesn't tell why the other installs did not work. For more 
information, here are the answers to the few questions people asked:


The specifications of my notebook:
ASUS A6QK30-RWDL
Processor : AMD Turion 64 MT30 1,6 Ghz
Cache memory L2 : 1 MB
Chipset: SIS 756 + SIS 964L
512 MB DDR 333 memory
Screen : 15.4" WXGA Color Shine
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce Go 6200 Turbo Cache 256Mo

Yes, the i386 sarge netinstall works on it.

I've tried the "linux26" tip at boot prompt and the only change was 
"Could not find kernel image: linux26" instead of "Could not find kernel 
image: linux" ...


That's it folks!
Thanks to all of you.

- Emmanuel


gr()und wrote:


hello

it might be this sarge netinst you have tried, but maybe not. It worked
for me well a few days ago on my Acer Aspire 5024wlmi (turion64)

http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/amd64/

regards,

gnd/

 


Hi!

For 2 days, I've been trying to install in vain Debian on my ASUS A6QK30
(AMD Turion 64 processor).
Is there anyone who has successfully done a 64 bit installation on that
kind of notebooks?

I tried these methods:
- installing from the sarge netinst CD: it kind of freezes right after
the country selection
- installing from the sarge CDs: same problem
- installing from the etch netinst CD: I got the following error:
ISOLINUX 2.04 2003-04-16  Copyright (C) 1994-2003 H. Peter Anvin
Could not find kernel image: linux
boot: _

md5 checksums of the downloads were alright.

Does anyone have a clue on how should I proceed?

Bye,
- Emmanuel


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Re: mouse config causes Xserver to crash

[Craig Hagerman]

On 10/14/05, Ted Kisner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So what kind of mouse do you have (ps/2, usb, touchpad, etc)?  On my laptop
> with an Alps touchpad, I had to reinstall the synaptics driver when upgrading
> from XFree86 to Xorg.

USB mouse. Anyone know what driver I am supposed to install for this?

>
> I also experienced some strange behaviour when I was playing with the
> unstripped xserver (xserver-xorg-dbg) and the nvidia driver.  Make sure you
> do not have the debug package installed.  If it is, remove it and then
> reinstall xserver-xorg.
>

Nope. I don't have the debug package as far as I know.

Craig

Configure Wireless ADSL

[antonio giulio]

Hi,

now that inprocomm 2220 is working, I have bought a Modem/Router ADSL.
However reading various HOWTO I have many confusion again.

with 'ifconfig wlan0' I can see right infos.
And now? How can I set my adsl configuration?!?!? What are the steps?
I want set connection on boot automatically. How can I do it?

Thanks,
Giulio

Re: KDE

[lordSauron]

Actually, I found out what was wrong (for some reason I'm getting some
huge deja vu while typing this... I must have asked this question
before...)

I was installing stuff like xfce, but all I needed was the
x-server-something package.  Now I have xfce or something like that
sneaking around my package list, but I plan to remove it today. 
Happily, now KDevelop, Umbrello, KOffice *and* KDE itself runs
smoothly all at the same time (kicker doesn't even return 11 after the
kill signal, something it did two installs ago and in Kubuntu)

Thanks for your help - I would still be bouncing into walls trying to
find the solution by now were it not for your help.
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Re: mouse config causes Xserver to crash

[Ted Kisner]

So what kind of mouse do you have (ps/2, usb, touchpad, etc)?  On my laptop 
with an Alps touchpad, I had to reinstall the synaptics driver when upgrading 
from XFree86 to Xorg.

I also experienced some strange behaviour when I was playing with the 
unstripped xserver (xserver-xorg-dbg) and the nvidia driver.  Make sure you 
do not have the debug package installed.  If it is, remove it and then 
reinstall xserver-xorg.

-Ted

On Thursday 13 October 2005 09:46, Craig Hagerman wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am still having troubles with a recent upgrade. This time I have no
> GUI display at all. I have tracked the problem down to the mouse
> configuration in the xorg.conf file, but don't know what I should do
> from here.
>
> On start up it throws up the nvidia spash screen a couple times, then
> tells me it can't start the Xserver. In /var/log/Xorg.0.log I see
> this:
>
> (**) Configured Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/mice"
> (**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: "ImPS/2"
> (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
> No such device.
> (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
> (II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
> (**) Configured Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/mice"
> (**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: "ImPS/2"
> (**) Option "CorePointer"
> (**) Configured Mouse: Core Pointer
> (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
> No such device.
> (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
> (II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
> (WW) No core pointer registered
> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Keyboard" (type:
> KEYBOARD) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "NVIDIA Event Handler"
> (type: Other) No core pointer
>
> Fatal server error:
> failed to initialize core devices
>
> >From everything I have read online I am sure that /dev/input/mice is
>
> correct. I also tried /dev/input/mouse0 and /dev/mouse0 but either
> helped. From the above I gather the module (mouse) got loaded OK, but
> it can't find the device for the mouse. This is weird. Any ideas on
> how I can get it to see the mouse.
>
> Also, isn't it weird that a mouse would cause the xserver to not start?
>
> Craig


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mouse config causes Xserver to crash

[Craig Hagerman]

Hi,

I am still having troubles with a recent upgrade. This time I have no
GUI display at all. I have tracked the problem down to the mouse
configuration in the xorg.conf file, but don't know what I should do
from here.

On start up it throws up the nvidia spash screen a couple times, then
tells me it can't start the Xserver. In /var/log/Xorg.0.log I see
this:

(**) Configured Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/mice"
(**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: "ImPS/2"
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
No such device.
(EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
(II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
(**) Configured Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/mice"
(**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: "ImPS/2"
(**) Option "CorePointer"
(**) Configured Mouse: Core Pointer
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
No such device.
(EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
(II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
(WW) No core pointer registered
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "NVIDIA Event Handler" (type: Other)
No core pointer

Fatal server error:
failed to initialize core devices


>From everything I have read online I am sure that /dev/input/mice is
correct. I also tried /dev/input/mouse0 and /dev/mouse0 but either
helped. From the above I gather the module (mouse) got loaded OK, but
it can't find the device for the mouse. This is weird. Any ideas on
how I can get it to see the mouse.

Also, isn't it weird that a mouse would cause the xserver to not start?

Craig

Re: searching program on amd64 for...

[Matthias Julius]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:

> It is simpler and cleaner to just add your chroot lib dirs to
> /etc/ld.so.conf

Yes.  I didn't know you already have a chroot.

>
> Only disadvantage is that you must comment them out before doing a libc6
> package upgrade.  Other than that, it is nice and clean.
>
> That way any lib installed in the chroot is accessable to 32bit programs
> outside the chroot.

And you can use apt within the chroot to manage updates and resolve
dependencies to avoid problems as you describe.

Matthias


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Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

[Adam Skutt]

Goswin von Brederlow wrote:


Intel has some extension that allows to address up to 64GB ram and
linux supports that.
Yes, PAE, for 64 GiB of physical, not /virtual/ RAM.  Helege was trying 
to suggest you can get 48-bits of virtual addressing space, which isn't 
possible.


In PAE, 32-bit virtual addresses are translated to 36-bit physical ones.

The process still only sees 32-bit of space (and can only use 3G) but 
that memory could physically be located anywhere in a 64GB range now, 
instead of a 4G one.


 But I'm not sure if that is also supported in

32bit mode on em64t. Wouldn't think so.
You mean, before entering long mode, or when running 32-bit apps in long 
mode.  The answers I beleive are yes and no, respectively.


Adam


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Re: Troubles installing Debian on an ASUS notebook

[simon]

I've experienced problems with a couple of devices which freeze on the default 
linux2.4 boot on the net install cd. Have you tried entering 'linux26' at the 
boot: prompt?

Simon


Mike wrote ..
> Sound's like a media problem to me.  I'd try checking the md5 sums on the
> disk (you have to burn disk-at-once), preferably on the laptop.  I'm not
> sure if debian install comes with a checking.  You could also try booting
> from a usb jump drive, not sure what options are available.  I know my
> dell 
> laptop has a very very picky dvd drive, especially for cdroms.  Though
> I 
> expect your Asus to be much better than my dell :-)
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Lennart Sorensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Emmanuel Guiton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Troubles installing Debian on an ASUS notebook
> 
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 12:50:32PM +0200, Emmanuel Guiton wrote:
> >> For 2 days, I've been trying to install in vain Debian on my ASUS A6QK30
> >> (AMD Turion 64 processor).
> >> Is there anyone who has successfully done a 64 bit installation on that
> >> kind of notebooks?
> >>
> >> I tried these methods:
> >> - installing from the sarge netinst CD: it kind of freezes right after
> >> the country selection
> >> - installing from the sarge CDs: same problem
> >> - installing from the etch netinst CD: I got the following error:
> >> ISOLINUX 2.04 2003-04-16  Copyright (C) 1994-2003 H. Peter Anvin
> >> Could not find kernel image: linux
> >> boot: _
> >>
> >> md5 checksums of the downloads were alright.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have a clue on how should I proceed?
> >
> > What chipset, video, etc does that machine use?
> >
> > Does the i386 sarge installer work on it?
> >
> > Len Sorensen
> >
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Re: Troubles installing Debian on an ASUS notebook

[Mike]

Sound's like a media problem to me.  I'd try checking the md5 sums on the 
disk (you have to burn disk-at-once), preferably on the laptop.  I'm not 
sure if debian install comes with a checking.  You could also try booting 
from a usb jump drive, not sure what options are available.  I know my dell 
laptop has a very very picky dvd drive, especially for cdroms.  Though I 
expect your Asus to be much better than my dell :-)




- Original Message - 
From: "Lennart Sorensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Emmanuel Guiton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Troubles installing Debian on an ASUS notebook



On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 12:50:32PM +0200, Emmanuel Guiton wrote:

For 2 days, I've been trying to install in vain Debian on my ASUS A6QK30
(AMD Turion 64 processor).
Is there anyone who has successfully done a 64 bit installation on that
kind of notebooks?

I tried these methods:
- installing from the sarge netinst CD: it kind of freezes right after
the country selection
- installing from the sarge CDs: same problem
- installing from the etch netinst CD: I got the following error:
ISOLINUX 2.04 2003-04-16  Copyright (C) 1994-2003 H. Peter Anvin
Could not find kernel image: linux
boot: _

md5 checksums of the downloads were alright.

Does anyone have a clue on how should I proceed?


What chipset, video, etc does that machine use?

Does the i386 sarge installer work on it?

Len Sorensen


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Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 04:50:09PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> The question is wether linux supports it too in that mode. It has to
> remap the 64bit page tables into the strange 64GB address setup.

I meant the chip supports 64GB in 32bit mode.  It is entirely an OS
thing and does nothing whatsoever for the application, so in 64bit mode
it has no meaning.  PAE never helps an application have more than 4GB of
address space.  So in 64bit mode, 32bit applications still have the same
4GB limit they do in 32bit mode (both with and without PAE).  The only
difference is to allow 64GB in 32bit mode for the OS to address.

> IF. That is the big question.

In 64bit mode the OS doesn't need PAE to address more than 4GB ram, so
it has no meaning.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Troubles installing Debian on an ASUS notebook

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 12:50:32PM +0200, Emmanuel Guiton wrote:
> For 2 days, I've been trying to install in vain Debian on my ASUS A6QK30 
> (AMD Turion 64 processor).
> Is there anyone who has successfully done a 64 bit installation on that 
> kind of notebooks?
> 
> I tried these methods:
> - installing from the sarge netinst CD: it kind of freezes right after 
> the country selection
> - installing from the sarge CDs: same problem
> - installing from the etch netinst CD: I got the following error:
> ISOLINUX 2.04 2003-04-16  Copyright (C) 1994-2003 H. Peter Anvin
> Could not find kernel image: linux
> boot: _
> 
> md5 checksums of the downloads were alright.
> 
> Does anyone have a clue on how should I proceed?

What chipset, video, etc does that machine use?

Does the i386 sarge installer work on it?

Len Sorensen


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Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

[Goswin von Brederlow]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:

> On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 03:09:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Intel has some extension that allows to address up to 64GB ram and
>> linux supports that. But I'm not sure if that is also supported in
>> 32bit mode on em64t. Wouldn't think so.
>
> It is.  x86_64 architecture supports everything a P4 supports including
> PAE, SSE, SSE2 (and SSE3 in newer versions).

The question is wether linux supports it too in that mode. It has to
remap the 64bit page tables into the strange 64GB address setup.

> After all who would build a chip that runs x86 and is destined for
> servers that does not support existing methods of allowing more than 4GB
> ram for 32bit OSs?
>
> If you look at /proc/cpuinfo you will see the pae flag mentioned on all
> amd64 systems.  That means it can do 64 rather than just 4GB ram in
> 32bit mode, if the OS supports PAE.

IF. That is the big question.

> Len Sorensen

MfG
Goswin


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Re: searching program on amd64 for...

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 06:57:45AM -0700, Ric Otte wrote:
> So now it looks like I need libpng12.so.0, libXcursor.so.1, and libXft.so.2.  
> Before 
> I go further, I thought I'd ask if simply copying from the chroot will work, 
> or
> if there is some reason I shouldn't do that.

It is simpler and cleaner to just add your chroot lib dirs to
/etc/ld.so.conf

Only disadvantage is that you must comment them out before doing a libc6
package upgrade.  Other than that, it is nice and clean.

That way any lib installed in the chroot is accessable to 32bit programs
outside the chroot.

Len Sorensen


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Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 03:09:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Intel has some extension that allows to address up to 64GB ram and
> linux supports that. But I'm not sure if that is also supported in
> 32bit mode on em64t. Wouldn't think so.

It is.  x86_64 architecture supports everything a P4 supports including
PAE, SSE, SSE2 (and SSE3 in newer versions).

After all who would build a chip that runs x86 and is destined for
servers that does not support existing methods of allowing more than 4GB
ram for 32bit OSs?

If you look at /proc/cpuinfo you will see the pae flag mentioned on all
amd64 systems.  That means it can do 64 rather than just 4GB ram in
32bit mode, if the OS supports PAE.

Len Sorensen


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Re: searching program on amd64 for...

[Ric Otte]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:13:33PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote:
> Ric Otte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > With ldd /usr/bin/skype I get:
> >
> > linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x)
> > libqt-mt.so.3 => not found
> > libXext.so.6 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 
> > (0x5557b000)
> > libX11.so.6 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 
> > (0x5558a000)
> > libpthread.so.0 => /emul/ia32-linux/lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 
> > (0x55651000)
> > libstdc++.so.5 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 
> > (0x5566)
> > libm.so.6 => /emul/ia32-linux/lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x5571a000)
> > libgcc_s.so.1 => /emul/ia32-linux/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x5573c000)
> > libc.so.6 => /emul/ia32-linux/lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x55744000)
> > libdl.so.2 => /emul/ia32-linux/lib/tls/libdl.so.2 (0x55879000)
> > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x5000)
> >
> > So it looks like the problem is libqt-mt-so.3.  I have that installed at 
> > /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3, but not in /emul/.  Is this library supposed to be 
> > in ia32-libs?
> > Thanks,
> > Ric  
> 
> Appearently it is not.  But you can unpack the libqt3c102-mt package
> for i386 manually and copy its content to /emul/ia32-linux/.
> 
> Matthias
I simply copied libqt-me.so.3 files from my chroot to /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib, 
but
then when I ran ldd /usr/bin/skype I got additional libs not found:

linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x)
libqt-mt.so.3 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 (0x5557b000)
libXext.so.6 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x55c67000)
libX11.so.6 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x55c76000)
libpthread.so.0 => /emul/ia32-linux/lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0x55d3d000)
libstdc++.so.5 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x55d4c000)
libm.so.6 => /emul/ia32-linux/lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x55e06000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /emul/ia32-linux/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x55e28000)
libc.so.6 => /emul/ia32-linux/lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x55e3)
libfontconfig.so.1 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 
(0x55f65000)
libaudio.so.2 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libaudio.so.2 (0x55f94000)
libXt.so.6 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x55fa9000)
libpng12.so.0 => not found
libz.so.1 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x55ffa000)
libXrender.so.1 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x5600c000)
libXrandr.so.2 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2 
(0x56015000)
libXcursor.so.1 => not found
libXft.so.2 => not found
libfreetype.so.6 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 
(0x56019000)
libSM.so.6 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x56086000)
libICE.so.6 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x5609)
libdl.so.2 => /emul/ia32-linux/lib/tls/libdl.so.2 (0x560a7000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x5000)
libexpat.so.1 => /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x560aa000)

So now it looks like I need libpng12.so.0, libXcursor.so.1, and libXft.so.2.  
Before 
I go further, I thought I'd ask if simply copying from the chroot will work, or
if there is some reason I shouldn't do that.
Thanks,
Ric


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Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

[Goswin von Brederlow]

Adam Skutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Helge Hafting wrote:
>> You can address more than 4GiB by using the always-unpopular
>> "segment" registers found on intel processors.
> How?  In protected-mode, they're in use as segement descriptor
> selectors.  Certain bits have specific meanings you cannot override,
> as they're part of the memory protection mechanism.

Intel has some extension that allows to address up to 64GB ram and
linux supports that. But I'm not sure if that is also supported in
32bit mode on em64t. Wouldn't think so.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: problems with the clock???

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 09:09:12PM -0700, lordSauron wrote:
> Yes, I believe that Windows sets the system clock to the local
> timezone.  There might be a windows setting to stop this, but if there
> isn't, try regedit in the run dialog (or command prompt...).  If
> searching there yields no results, then your next best bet would be to
> see if Linux can accept that the clock isn't set to GMT.  If not...
> well, what am I saying?  There are plenty of people who successfully
> dual-boot Linux/Windows without any problems.  There is a solution.

Windows does not support GMT hardware clock (unless your localtime
happens to be GMT).  It never has, and it seems they have no intension
of supporting it, even though it would solve problems with dual booting
and daylights savings time if you have two different windows installed
on one system.  I guess they just don't care about their customers.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Laptop temperature

[Lennart Sorensen]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 09:56:53PM +0200, Hugh Waite wrote:
> I've noticed the occasional mention of temperatures (usually checking to 
> see if this is causing crashes) including the "Asus K8N, Cool'n'Quiet, 
> and sensors.conf" thread.
> I have a Compaq Presario R3000 with an Athlon 3400+ which has power 
> states 800Mhz, 1.8GHz & 2.2GHz. I've had it doing hard work all evening 
> and the temperature (/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature) is 51*C.
> Is this dangerously high?

Sounds fairly reasonable to me.

> I set the power level at 1.8GHz because full load at 2.2GHz can put the 
> temperature near 70*C. The fans are not currently at full speed but they 
> do speed up if I set power to 2.2GHz (and the temperature climbs).

Make sure you have the laptop on a desk, since the R3000s have the two
intake fans at the bottom of the case and need to have some space around
the feet to draw in air.  Otherwise it gets rather hot.

70C is still an acceptable temperature for the athlon 64 as far as I
know, and if that is running full out, that seems ok.  It is a small
laptop case after all, and not a desktop with a giant heatsink.

> I have yet to have any problems (that weren't software) and my PC 
> (Athlon 3400+) also runs around this temp (at full load 2.2GHz)
> 
> Should I be worried?

I wouldn't think so.

If you have apci-cpufreq loaded, and possibly the cpufreqd program
installed, it should move the speed up and down on demand which seems to
do a pretty good job keeping it cool.  of course airflow through the
laptop is the main thing needed to keep it cool.  Perhaps _lap_top is
the wrong name for these things. :)  I certainly don't recommend running
it in your lap.

Len Sorensen


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Troubles installing Debian on an ASUS notebook

[Emmanuel Guiton]

Hi!

For 2 days, I've been trying to install in vain Debian on my ASUS A6QK30 
(AMD Turion 64 processor).
Is there anyone who has successfully done a 64 bit installation on that 
kind of notebooks?


I tried these methods:
- installing from the sarge netinst CD: it kind of freezes right after 
the country selection

- installing from the sarge CDs: same problem
- installing from the etch netinst CD: I got the following error:
ISOLINUX 2.04 2003-04-16  Copyright (C) 1994-2003 H. Peter Anvin
Could not find kernel image: linux
boot: _

md5 checksums of the downloads were alright.

Does anyone have a clue on how should I proceed?

Bye,
- Emmanuel


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Laptop temperature

[Hugh Waite]

Hi,
I've noticed the occasional mention of temperatures (usually checking to 
see if this is causing crashes) including the "Asus K8N, Cool'n'Quiet, 
and sensors.conf" thread.
I have a Compaq Presario R3000 with an Athlon 3400+ which has power 
states 800Mhz, 1.8GHz & 2.2GHz. I've had it doing hard work all evening 
and the temperature (/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature) is 51*C.

Is this dangerously high?
I set the power level at 1.8GHz because full load at 2.2GHz can put the 
temperature near 70*C. The fans are not currently at full speed but they 
do speed up if I set power to 2.2GHz (and the temperature climbs).


I have yet to have any problems (that weren't software) and my PC 
(Athlon 3400+) also runs around this temp (at full load 2.2GHz)


Should I be worried?

Hugh


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Re: opera

[Adam Stiles]

On Thursday 13 October 2005 09:53, Attila Kocsis wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have just tried to install opera 8.5 on sarge amd64.
> Everithing seemed to be fine during the install except
> this:
>
> System wide configuration files:
>   /etc/opera6rc
>   /etc/opera6rc.fixed
>  cannot be installed with the prefix "/usr".
> Do you want to install them [ y,n | yes,no ] ?
>
> I choosed yes.
>
> When I launched opera I got the following error:
>
> /usr/bin/opera: line 1:
> /usr/lib/opera/8.50-20050916.1/opera: No such file or
> directory
> /usr/bin/opera: line 1:
> /usr/lib/opera/8.50-20050916.1/opera: Success
>
> So this /usr/lib/opera/8.50-20050916.1/opera does
> exist ,so I really don't know what the problem is.
> I also made a try with the static package but it's all
> the same.
>
> Any suggestion?

I suggest you use Konqueror instead.

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AJS


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Re: opera

[Mahesh T. Pai]

Attila Kocsis said on Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 01:53:30AM -0700,:

 > I have just tried to install opera 8.5 on sarge amd64.
 > Everithing seemed to be fine during the install except
 > this:
 
Opera is not distributed by  Debian, afaik. Please ask this to whoever
/whatever connected with Opera.
 
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It's not the software that's free; it's you.


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opera

[Attila Kocsis]

Hello,

I have just tried to install opera 8.5 on sarge amd64.
Everithing seemed to be fine during the install except
this:

System wide configuration files:
  /etc/opera6rc
  /etc/opera6rc.fixed
 cannot be installed with the prefix "/usr".
Do you want to install them [ y,n | yes,no ] ?

I choosed yes.

When I launched opera I got the following error:

/usr/bin/opera: line 1:
/usr/lib/opera/8.50-20050916.1/opera: No such file or
directory
/usr/bin/opera: line 1:
/usr/lib/opera/8.50-20050916.1/opera: Success

So this /usr/lib/opera/8.50-20050916.1/opera does
exist ,so I really don't know what the problem is.
I also made a try with the static package but it's all
the same.

Any suggestion? 

Thanks a lot.
Atis



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