Re: Sarge NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached. Processor ignored.

2005-12-13 Thread Siju George
On 12/14/05, Lubos Vrbka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Linux  2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 # x86_64 GNU/Linux
> >
> > Both the processors are detected but one is ignored as said in the boot 
> > dmesg.
> i think you need smp kernel to support both processors, i.e. something
> like 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp
>

Thankyo so much lubos :-) for the quick reply.

Is there a way to install the kernel using apt-get??

Also will I have to re-install the packages to support SMP?

Thankyou so much

kind regards

Siju



Re: Sarge NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached. Processor ignored.

2005-12-13 Thread Lubos Vrbka



Linux  2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 # x86_64 GNU/Linux

Both the processors are detected but one is ignored as said in the boot dmesg.
i think you need smp kernel to support both processors, i.e. something 
like 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp



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Sarge NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached. Processor ignored.

2005-12-13 Thread Siju George
Hi,

I have a dual processor amd64 server with 2 AMD Opterons.

Installed on it is Sarge

Linux  2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 # x86_64 GNU/Linux

Both the processors are detected but one is ignored as said in the boot dmesg.

--
Processor #0 15:5 APIC version 16
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x02] lapic_id[0x01] enabled)
Processor #1 15:5 APIC version 16
WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached. Processor ignored.
---

How do I change the NR_CPUS limit to 2? ( if that helps)

or how do I get to use both my CPUs?

The system was installed from CDROMS

Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 r0a _Sarge_ - Official amd64 Binary-1
Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 r0a _Sarge_ - Official amd64 Binary-2

Full Boot dmesg is below :-)

Thankyou so much

Kind Regards

Siju

-/var/log/dmesg-

Bootdata ok (command line is root=/dev/sda2 ro console=tty0 )
Linux version 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(gcc version 3.4.4 20050314 (prerelease) (Debian 3.4.3-13)) #1 Wed Jun
1 01:03:08 CEST 2005
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009f400 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0009f400 - 000a (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000e - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - f9ff (usable)
 BIOS-e820: f9ff - f9fff000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: f9fff000 - fa00 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: ff78 - 0001 (reserved)
No mptable found.
On node 0 totalpages: 1023984
  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
  Normal zone: 1019888 pages, LIFO batch:16
  HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
ACPI: RSDP (v000 ACPIAM) @
0x000f6d70
ACPI: RSDT (v001 A M I  OEMRSDT  0x1611 MSFT 0x0097) @
0xf9ff
ACPI: FADT (v001 A M I  OEMFACP  0x1611 MSFT 0x0097) @
0xf9ff0200
ACPI: MADT (v001 A M I  OEMAPIC  0x1611 MSFT 0x0097) @
0xf9ff0380
ACPI: OEMB (v001 A M I  OEMBIOS  0x1611 MSFT 0x0097) @
0xf9fff040
ACPI: SRAT (v001 A M I  OEMSRAT  0x1611 MSFT 0x0097) @
0xf9ff3b10
ACPI: ASF! (v001 AMIASF AMDSTRET 0x0001 INTL 0x02002026) @
0xf9ff3c20
ACPI: DSDT (v001  0 0000 0x INTL 0x02002026) @
0x
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
Processor #0 15:5 APIC version 16
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x02] lapic_id[0x01] enabled)
Processor #1 15:5 APIC version 16
WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached. Processor ignored.
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x03] lapic_id[0x82] disabled)
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x04] lapic_id[0x83] disabled)
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec0] gsi_base[0])
IOAPIC[0]: Assigned apic_id 2
IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, version 17, address 0xfec0, GSI 0-23
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x03] address[0xfebff000] gsi_base[24])
IOAPIC[1]: Assigned apic_id 3
IOAPIC[1]: apic_id 3, version 17, address 0xfebff000, GSI 24-27
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x04] address[0xfebfe000] gsi_base[28])
IOAPIC[2]: Assigned apic_id 4
IOAPIC[2]: apic_id 4, version 17, address 0xfebfe000, GSI 28-31
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl)
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl)
ACPI: IRQ0 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ2 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ9 used by override.
Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
Checking aperture...
CPU 0: aperture @ adfe00 size 32 MB
Aperture from northbridge cpu 0 too small (32 MB)
No AGP bridge found
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda2 ro console=tty0
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 16 (order 4: 256 bytes)
time.c: Using 1.193182 MHz PIT timer.
time.c: Detected 1991.872 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 524288 (order: 10, 4194304 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes)
Memory: 4025644k/4095936k available (1586k kernel code, 69528k
reserved, 901k data, 124k init)
Calibrating delay loop... 3915.77 BogoMIPS
Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized
Capability LSM initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 256 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 1024K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 stepping 0a
Using local APIC NMI watchdog using perfctr0
ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
init IO_APIC IRQs
 IO-APIC (apicid-pin) 2-0, 2-16, 2-17, 2-18, 2-19, 2-20, 2-21, 2-22,
2-23, 3-0, 3-1, 3-2, 3-3, 4-0, 4-1, 4-2, 4-3 not connected.
..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=-1
Using local APIC timer interrupts.
Detected 12.449 MHz APIC timer.
checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (ungzip failed); looks like an initrd
NET: Registered protocol family 16
PCI: Using configuration type 1
mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
ACPI: PCI Interru

Re: How to package SuperCollider (or, whats the deal with multiarch)

2005-12-13 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Mario Lang wrote:

> In this specific case, that is a very hypothetical thesis...  I cant really
> imagine an arch which does say 80bit or 128bit floating point math
> faster than 64bit...

M68K comes to mind, I think that might do 80bit FP faster than it does
64-bit (because the FPU does 80-bit). I'd have to pull out my M68K books...

> I've looked at it, and it is doable.  However, I think it would require
> some preprocessor magic, since currently, copying slots is done by
> assignment, which is definitely faster than a memcpy of a struct...

The assignment operator ought to be fairly well optimized. Actually,
memcpy might be, too. Remember, memcpy is a part of the C standard
library; the compiler is perfectly free to implement it any way it
choses --- it need not be a function call. I think GCC might actually do
this.

Let's find out:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:tmp$ cat test-memcpy.c
#include 

int test(int *a, int *b, int *c, int *d) {
memcpy(b, a, sizeof(int));
*c = *d;
return 0;
}

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:tmp$ gcc -O3 test-memcpy.c -c
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test-memcpy.o: file format elf64-x86-64

Disassembly of section .text:

 :
   0:   8b 07   mov(%rdi),%eax
   2:   89 06   mov%eax,(%rsi)
   4:   8b 01   mov(%rcx),%eax
   6:   89 02   mov%eax,(%rdx)
   8:   31 c0   xor%eax,%eax
   a:   c3  retq

And, yep, gcc performs that optimization.


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Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-13 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Lubos Vrbka wrote:
> we planned to have dual core dual opteron machine with tyan mobo.
> however tyans are not available at the moment (and this situation will
> last at least till the end of the year). we were offered supermicro
> h8da8 mobo. does anyone have any experience with it, or should we wait
> for tyan?

I believe thats what's in Yoko.AnimeMusicVideos.Org. Hasn't been put
under any real load yet, though the install went fine.


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Re: installing a debian source ISO

2005-12-13 Thread John C. Martin
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 8:02 am, Jo Shields wrote:

> Debian isn't a "source based" distro like gentoo - if you really want to
> do that, look at "Debian from Scratch" - though I'd not recommend
> source-based distributions

If you are referring to DFS - Debian from Scratch from John Goerzen, 
http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/html/
it is not source based either - it simply allows you to boot into a Debian 
system from CD and provides a collection of packages for installing your 
system manually from the command line.  You still use the same deb's from the 
same mirrors or the CD.  It works very well though and gives you absolute 
control over the install, and makes a great rescue disk - its not for anyone 
shy of the command line though.

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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-13 Thread Matthew A. Nicholson
Kernels 2.6.12 enable something called dmix by default if your soundcard 
does not support multiple channels.  This would allow rhythmbox and xmms 
to play sounds at the same time without esd/alsa/your sound server.


This is a very cool feature that I sorely missed for a long time.

Russ Cook wrote:
Oops.  I reran alsaconf.  That killed a process that was running (I 
don't know

what it was).  Afterwards, both XMMS and Rythmbox are functional now.
Thank you both for your helpful suggestions.  Now that sound is working,
I can turn to other problems - like whether to install a 32-bit chroot for
programs like Mplayer, Mozilla with Java support, etc.

Thanks again.  I really appreciate your help.

Regards,
 Russ
Russ Cook wrote:


Len,
 In /proc/asound I have a symlink CK804 which links to a directory card0.
In card0 I have a file named intel8x0 and a directory named codec97#0.
There also other files and directories.
Connecting to other audio jacks does not appear to help.

Lennart Sorensen wrote:


On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 07:01:35PM -0600, Russ Cook wrote:
 

I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I 
can run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this 
web site for hints -
http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the 
list of
packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - 
does that have

any bearing on my problem?
  




You only need alsa-modules for 2.4 kernels.  2.6 kernels have alsa
drivers already included.

Do you have your card listed in /proc/asound/cards?

What sound chip is it?  If it is an i8x0 ac97 chip, then try plugging
the speakers into the mic jack or other jacks and see if it helps, or
turn up the headphone volume.  If any of that works, you need to go find
out which ac97_quirk option you have to pass to the driver for your
hardware.

Len Sorensen


 






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Re: Xvnc crashing

2005-12-13 Thread loos
Em Ter, 2005-12-13 às 22:36 -0200, loos escreveu:
> I disponibilize debs which I built from
> Harald Dunkel modified source (available at the same place)
> 
> http://qt1.iq.usp.br/downloads
> 
> Michel.
> 
> 

Oops:
http://qt1.iq.usp.br/download/

Michel



Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-13 Thread Russ Cook
Oops.  I reran alsaconf.  That killed a process that was running (I 
don't know

what it was).  Afterwards, both XMMS and Rythmbox are functional now.
Thank you both for your helpful suggestions.  Now that sound is working,
I can turn to other problems - like whether to install a 32-bit chroot for
programs like Mplayer, Mozilla with Java support, etc.

Thanks again.  I really appreciate your help.

Regards,
 Russ
Russ Cook wrote:


Len,
 In /proc/asound I have a symlink CK804 which links to a directory card0.
In card0 I have a file named intel8x0 and a directory named codec97#0.
There also other files and directories.
Connecting to other audio jacks does not appear to help.

Lennart Sorensen wrote:


On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 07:01:35PM -0600, Russ Cook wrote:
 

I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I 
can run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this 
web site for hints -
http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the 
list of
packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - 
does that have

any bearing on my problem?
  



You only need alsa-modules for 2.4 kernels.  2.6 kernels have alsa
drivers already included.

Do you have your card listed in /proc/asound/cards?

What sound chip is it?  If it is an i8x0 ac97 chip, then try plugging
the speakers into the mic jack or other jacks and see if it helps, or
turn up the headphone volume.  If any of that works, you need to go find
out which ac97_quirk option you have to pass to the driver for your
hardware.

Len Sorensen


 







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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-13 Thread Russ Cook

Len,
 In /proc/asound I have a symlink CK804 which links to a directory card0.
In card0 I have a file named intel8x0 and a directory named codec97#0.
There also other files and directories.
Connecting to other audio jacks does not appear to help.

Lennart Sorensen wrote:


On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 07:01:35PM -0600, Russ Cook wrote:
 

I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I can 
run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this web site 
for hints -

http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the list of
packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - does 
that have

any bearing on my problem?
   



You only need alsa-modules for 2.4 kernels.  2.6 kernels have alsa
drivers already included.

Do you have your card listed in /proc/asound/cards?

What sound chip is it?  If it is an i8x0 ac97 chip, then try plugging
the speakers into the mic jack or other jacks and see if it helps, or
turn up the headphone volume.  If any of that works, you need to go find
out which ac97_quirk option you have to pass to the driver for your
hardware.

Len Sorensen


 




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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-13 Thread Russ Cook

Following your suggestion, I ran gstreamer-properties and set the options
to use alsa (I have no idea yet what gstreamer is, my learning curve looks
like Mt Everest).  Rythmbox now gives the error 'ALSA device "default" 
is already in use by another program' and also 'Could not pause playback'.
Additionally, XMMS no longer works now.  I get the error message 
'Couldn't open audio'.

Thank you for your patience and assistance.

Matthew A. Nicholson wrote:


Use gstreamer-properties to make gstreamer use alsa.

Russ Cook wrote:

Partial success.  After installing the programs I could find from the 
referenced list, XMMS now works.  Rythmbox 0.8.8 still fails with the 
error message

'Could not create audio output element; check your setting'.

Russ Cook wrote:

I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I 
can run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this 
web site for hints -
http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the 
list of
packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - 
does that have

any bearing on my problem?

Matthew A. Nicholson wrote:

You didn't follow my directions...  First make sure you are part of 
the audio group, you generally should just "be root".


adduser mynamehere audio

Then run alsamixer as that user and make sure the sound is at a 
resonable level.  If it works as root then it should work as user 
if you have the right permissions.  You should not need to manually 
run esd.


Russ Cook wrote:


Udev was already installed - I confirmed with Aptitude.  Executing
the command 'modprobe snd_intel8x0' made no difference.  When I 
click on volume control under the sound and Video menu item of 
Gnome, I get the
error message "No volume control elements and/or devices found."  
When
I try to play a file using Rythmbox 0.8.8, I get the message 
"Could not create
audio output element; check your settings".When I clicked on 
the "volume

monitor" under the Sound and Video menu item of Gnome, I get the
error message "Cannot connect to sound daemon.  Please run 'esd' at a
command prompt."  From a terminal as root, I execute esd, and get a
momentary tone sequence.  I then tried again to play a file under
Rythmbox, and get the same error message "Could not create audio 
output
element; check your settings".  This certainly appears to be a 
configuration
issue, but I don't know what the problem is or how to fix it.  As 
always, any

help or pointers to references would be greatly appreciated.















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Re: Xvnc crashing

2005-12-13 Thread loos
I disponibilize debs which I built from
Harald Dunkel modified source (available at the same place)

http://qt1.iq.usp.br/downloads

Michel.


Em Seg, 2005-12-12 às 18:21 +0100, Heinrich Rebehn escreveu:
> Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 04:55:13PM +0100, Heinrich Rebehn wrote:
> > 
> >>are there known Problems with the VNC server?
> >>
> >>Trying to start
> >>
> >>$ Xvnc :9
> >>
> >>yields "Segmentation fault" in the xterm and
> >>
> >>Dec 12 16:41:55 bremerhaven kernel: [ 2702.397481] Xvnc[7770]: segfault 
> >>at ab3827e8 rip 2b1cf54b rsp 7fbc99c0 error 4
> >>
> >>on syslog.
> >>
> >>My machine runs pure "deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64/ stable 
> >>main" and vanilla kernel 2.6.14.3 SMP
> >>ii  vncserver   3.3.7-7 Virtual network computing server 
> >>software
> >>
> >>Any thoughts?
> > 
> > 
> > Well last time I remember reading anything about vnc on amd64, the vnc
> > server was known to be broken, while the client worked fine.  I have no
> > idea if this is still the case or not.  By the looks of it, perhaps the
> > vnc server is still broken on amd64.
> > 
> > A search of the mailing list archive may shed some light on things.
> > 
> Of course i did search before asking :-) But the posts i found where 
> over a year old, so i doubted they were still relevant.
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2004/11/msg00064.html
> Seems they still are.
> As proposed, i installed the fedora rpm via alien. Works fine.




Re: Flash (Re: OpenOffice-2.0.)

2005-12-13 Thread v0n0
Kalle Kivimaa ha scritto:

>How have you managed that? All my attempts to install Flash on my
>amd64 laptop have failed miserably...
>  
>
I have repacked some 32bit debs. You can now try it from my repository,
but please read notes on my website first!

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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-13 Thread Matthew A. Nicholson

Use gstreamer-properties to make gstreamer use alsa.

Russ Cook wrote:
Partial success.  After installing the programs I could find from the 
referenced list, XMMS now works.  Rythmbox 0.8.8 still fails with the 
error message

'Could not create audio output element; check your setting'.

Russ Cook wrote:

I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I can 
run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this web 
site for hints -

http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the list of
packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - does 
that have

any bearing on my problem?

Matthew A. Nicholson wrote:

You didn't follow my directions...  First make sure you are part of 
the audio group, you generally should just "be root".


adduser mynamehere audio

Then run alsamixer as that user and make sure the sound is at a 
resonable level.  If it works as root then it should work as user if 
you have the right permissions.  You should not need to manually run 
esd.


Russ Cook wrote:


Udev was already installed - I confirmed with Aptitude.  Executing
the command 'modprobe snd_intel8x0' made no difference.  When I 
click on volume control under the sound and Video menu item of 
Gnome, I get the

error message "No volume control elements and/or devices found."  When
I try to play a file using Rythmbox 0.8.8, I get the message "Could 
not create
audio output element; check your settings".When I clicked on the 
"volume

monitor" under the Sound and Video menu item of Gnome, I get the
error message "Cannot connect to sound daemon.  Please run 'esd' at a
command prompt."  From a terminal as root, I execute esd, and get a
momentary tone sequence.  I then tried again to play a file under
Rythmbox, and get the same error message "Could not create audio output
element; check your settings".  This certainly appears to be a 
configuration
issue, but I don't know what the problem is or how to fix it.  As 
always, any

help or pointers to references would be greatly appreciated.











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Re: yesterdays and todays netinstall cd images

2005-12-13 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 04:40:35PM +1100, Dean Hamstead wrote:
> just trying to use yesterdays and todays netboot install
> disk images (the 100mb ones), they cant find the modules.dep
> file.

Yes, the kernel udebs had a bug which was fixed in the upload from 
yesterday.

The unstable daily build from today[1] works, the testing isos from
cdimage.debian.org should follow tomorrow.


Best regards
Frederik Schueler

[1] http://amd64.debian.net/debian-installer/daily/

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Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-13 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Great, thanks very much, I'll look through these.

On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 10:58 -0800, Elaine Tsiang YueLien wrote:
> Here's AMD's bulletin on erratum 122:
> 
> www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/33340.pdf
> I have not stressed my system enough to encounter it.
> 
> Here's AMD's latest online revision doc:
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/25759.pdf
> 
> Errata 118-136 affect dual-core opterons. I came across only 122 in
> regards to Linux.
> 
> Elaine
> 
> On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 13:12 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
> > On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 16:02 -0500, Austin Denyer wrote:
> > > I believe there is an issue with kernels < 2.6.14-2 with Opteron SMP.
> > > That is why I'm running 2.6.14-2 myself.
> > > 
> > > The issue was an AMD errata rather than a bug with the kernel -
> > > 2.6.14-2 contained a workaround.
> > 
> > I have a dual/dual machine (265/S940, Tyan S2891) which has trouble
> > net-booting, while other dual/single core machines do fine: on the
> > dual/dual, dhclient sends a request, the server replies, dhclient
> > doesn't seem to get the reply.
> > 
> > Could this kernel issue be causing my problem?
> > 
> > -Adam

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Re: install ifort 9.0 with alien...

2005-12-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 08:39:10PM +0100, fred wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I attempt to install intel fortran compiler 9.0 amd64/EM64T
> (intel-iforte9-9.0-021.em64t.rpm) with alien.
> 
> But alien fails :
> alien intel-iforte9-9.0-021.em64t.rpm
> Package build failed. Here's the log:
> dh_testdir
> dh_testdir
> dh_testroot
> dh_clean -k -d
> dh_installdirs
> dh_installdocs
> dh_installchangelogs
> find . -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -not -name debian -print0 | \
> xargs -0 -r -i cp -a {} debian/intel-iforte9
> dh_compress
> dh_makeshlibs
> objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libcprts.so: File
> format not recognized
> objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libcxa.so: File
> format not recognized
> objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libcxaguard.so: File
> format not recognized
> objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libifcore.so: File
> format not recognized
> objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libifcoremt.so: File
> format not recognized
> objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libifport.so: File
> format not recognized
> objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libunwind.so: File
> format not recognized
> dh_installdeb
> dh_shlibdeps
> /usr/bin/ldd: line 1: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory
> ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with unknown exit code (127)
> dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: ldd on
> `debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/bin/codecov' gave error exit
> status 1
> dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code 256
> make: [binary-arch] Error 1 (ignored)
> dh_gencontrol
> dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear
> in package's list (em64t)
> dh_gencontrol: command returned error code 65280
> make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1
> find: intel-iforte9-9.0: No such file or directory
> 
> In fact, several *.so file are ascii text :
> cat libunwind.so
> INPUT ( libunwind.so.5 )
> 
> I could link these files alien would erase them.
> 
> What's wrong ?

Not sure, but redhat does organize their 64bit support rather
differently.  Of course alien may just not know about amd64 yet.  Of
course on redhat you have 32bit libs too, not just 64bit and some
companies think that doing mixed 32 and 64bit code on amd64 is perfectly
reasonable, which it isn't on a pure 64bit system like amd64 debian.

/lib/ld-linux.so.2 is for 32bit systems, amd64 doesn't use that which
makes it really look like that package requires a mixed architecture
system (perhaps ia32-libs would help since it does contain
/lib/ld-linux.so.2).

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install ifort 9.0 with alien...

2005-12-13 Thread fred
Hi all,

I attempt to install intel fortran compiler 9.0 amd64/EM64T
(intel-iforte9-9.0-021.em64t.rpm) with alien.

But alien fails :
alien intel-iforte9-9.0-021.em64t.rpm
Package build failed. Here's the log:
dh_testdir
dh_testdir
dh_testroot
dh_clean -k -d
dh_installdirs
dh_installdocs
dh_installchangelogs
find . -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -not -name debian -print0 | \
xargs -0 -r -i cp -a {} debian/intel-iforte9
dh_compress
dh_makeshlibs
objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libcprts.so: File
format not recognized
objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libcxa.so: File
format not recognized
objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libcxaguard.so: File
format not recognized
objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libifcore.so: File
format not recognized
objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libifcoremt.so: File
format not recognized
objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libifport.so: File
format not recognized
objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libunwind.so: File
format not recognized
dh_installdeb
dh_shlibdeps
/usr/bin/ldd: line 1: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory
ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with unknown exit code (127)
dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: ldd on
`debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/bin/codecov' gave error exit
status 1
dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code 256
make: [binary-arch] Error 1 (ignored)
dh_gencontrol
dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear
in package's list (em64t)
dh_gencontrol: command returned error code 65280
make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1
find: intel-iforte9-9.0: No such file or directory

In fact, several *.so file are ascii text :
cat libunwind.so
INPUT ( libunwind.so.5 )

I could link these files alien would erase them.

What's wrong ?

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Re: How to package SuperCollider (or, whats the deal with multiarch)

2005-12-13 Thread Mario Lang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:

> On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 01:53:04PM +0100, Mario Lang wrote:
>> SuperCollider is for some reason I am going to explain below a bit
>> strange when it comes to porting it to AMD64:
>> 
>> SC consists of two separate programs, the synthesis server (connects to 
>> JACK),
>> and the language client which executes SCLang code.  Both processes
>> communicate with each other via UDP (OSC).
>> 
>> For reasons of design and speed vs. space tradeoffs, the language
>> *has* to be compiled as a 32bit binary.  The 64bit build fails
>> at runtime due to pointer size overflows.  (if anyone wants to know
>> more about it, the main reason for this is that SCLang uses a kind
>> of slot-mechanism to hold direct and indirect values all in a 64bit
>> double, therefore a 64bit pointer + tag does not fit).
>
> Briliant.  I just love when programers write non portable code for the
> sake of performance. :)

Well, I've been there, felt like that, but I sort of understand
the original decision.  realtime audio synthesis is really very demanding
on the CPU, so it is very understandable why the author wanted to get
the best possible performance for his interpreter language.

> What if some future architecture has the ability to run your code
> way faster but can't run it because of the clunky code you decided
> to write.

In this specific case, that is a very hypothetical thesis...  I cant really
imagine an arch which does say 80bit or 128bit floating point math
faster than 64bit...  OTOH, I dont really know what I am talking about here,
I am not a hardware person.

> This has been done many times before and every single time it
> eventually became a big problem.
>
> I wonder how hard it would be to change it to using a struct of a 32 and
> a 64bit value instead.

I've looked at it, and it is doable.  However, I think it would require
some preprocessor magic, since currently, copying slots is done by
assignment, which is definitely faster than a memcpy of a struct...

But I agree, a proper patch which is acceptable by upstream would
be favourable.  Only to a purist I am afraid, the userbase seems
quite happy with the current situation.  And upstream is not going
to accept a solution which reduces performance for a 32bit address space
version.

>> OTOH, the synthesis server builds in 64bit mode, and works nicely.  It
>> actually has to be built 64bit, since it links to JACK, which
>> is most probably a 64bit version on an debian amd64 box...
>> 
>> Now, I can build and install this stuff by hand, simply build the
>> server on the system as usual, and build the language client in a sid-ia32
>> chroot, do the ld.so.conf magic and symlink sclang.  That works
>> nicely.
>> However, I am kind of wondering how to solve this properly
>> when it comes to packaging supercollider?
>> I am not up-to-date with how multiarch is exactly ment to work
>> these days, would it fit this kind of application?
>> If so, whats the proper way to do it, and can this already be done
>> with the infrastructure currently in amd64 sid?
>
> Well best case, the code gets cleaned up to be 64bit clean.
>
> Worst case you don't package it for 64bit machines.
>
> Or you can perhaps make the package so that it only builds the "client"
> on 32bit systems, and builds the server packages on all systems.

These three cases I already worked out, I was looking for case 4 :-),
or some ambitioned porter willing to take a look at it and help...

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Re: How to package SuperCollider (or, whats the deal with multiarch)

2005-12-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 01:53:04PM +0100, Mario Lang wrote:
> SuperCollider is for some reason I am going to explain below a bit
> strange when it comes to porting it to AMD64:
> 
> SC consists of two separate programs, the synthesis server (connects to JACK),
> and the language client which executes SCLang code.  Both processes
> communicate with each other via UDP (OSC).
> 
> For reasons of design and speed vs. space tradeoffs, the language
> *has* to be compiled as a 32bit binary.  The 64bit build fails
> at runtime due to pointer size overflows.  (if anyone wants to know
> more about it, the main reason for this is that SCLang uses a kind
> of slot-mechanism to hold direct and indirect values all in a 64bit
> double, therefore a 64bit pointer + tag does not fit).

Briliant.  I just love when programers write non portable code for the
sake of performance. :)  What if some future architecture has the
ability to run your code way faster but can't run it because of the
clunky code you decided to write.  This has been done many times before
and every single time it eventually became a big problem.

I wonder how hard it would be to change it to using a struct of a 32 and
a 64bit value instead.

> OTOH, the synthesis server builds in 64bit mode, and works nicely.  It
> actually has to be built 64bit, since it links to JACK, which
> is most probably a 64bit version on an debian amd64 box...
> 
> Now, I can build and install this stuff by hand, simply build the
> server on the system as usual, and build the language client in a sid-ia32
> chroot, do the ld.so.conf magic and symlink sclang.  That works
> nicely.
> However, I am kind of wondering how to solve this properly
> when it comes to packaging supercollider?
> I am not up-to-date with how multiarch is exactly ment to work
> these days, would it fit this kind of application?
> If so, whats the proper way to do it, and can this already be done
> with the infrastructure currently in amd64 sid?

Well best case, the code gets cleaned up to be 64bit clean.

Worst case you don't package it for 64bit machines.

Or you can perhaps make the package so that it only builds the "client"
on 32bit systems, and builds the server packages on all systems.

Len Sorensen


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Re: installing a debian source ISO

2005-12-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 01:19:03PM +, Adam Stiles wrote:
> Good on you for installing from source; but I will warn you in advance, it is 
> not as easy as installing "click and go" spyware-infested applications under 
> Windows!  OTOH, there is something undefinable yet deeply satisfying about 
> knowing you built it all yourself from source code .  just like the way 
> vegetables from a supermarket never taste as good as the ones you grew on 
> your own allotment, or other people's babies are never as pretty as yours.

Personally I don't consider it good, I consider it silly. :)

[snip]
> I don't doubt that somebody will have created a boot CD with a working build 
> environment that can be used for bootstrapping Debian from sources.

But you will get the same result building the source packages yourself.
If you don't it is a serious bug.  So really what would be the point
(given I don't believe there is a point to any source based
distribution).  If you want a source distribution, try looking at the
original debian releases (1.x releases).  We don't want to go back to
that kind of install again. :)

Len Sorensen


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Re: installing a debian source ISO

2005-12-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 09:23:28AM -0300, fernando tear wrote:
> I get source debian sarge ISO and i am trying to
> install it.
> I search it by internet and i found how install a
> binary distribution, not a source one.
> 
> where can i find the steps to install a source
> distro??

You don't install from source CDs, those you use if you want to rebuild
a package with some changes to it.

This is fortunately not gentoo.

Len Sorensen


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Re: New install - no sound

2005-12-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 07:01:35PM -0600, Russ Cook wrote:
> I believe I have.  As a user, I am a member of the audio group.  I can 
> run alsamixer as normal user.  Still no sound.  I visited this web site 
> for hints -
> http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and looked at the list of
> packages it recommended installing.  I noticed that I can't install 
> alsa-modules because it isn't available.  I am running testing - does 
> that have
> any bearing on my problem?

You only need alsa-modules for 2.4 kernels.  2.6 kernels have alsa
drivers already included.

Do you have your card listed in /proc/asound/cards?

What sound chip is it?  If it is an i8x0 ac97 chip, then try plugging
the speakers into the mic jack or other jacks and see if it helps, or
turn up the headphone volume.  If any of that works, you need to go find
out which ac97_quirk option you have to pass to the driver for your
hardware.

Len Sorensen


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Re: acpi on turion 64

2005-12-13 Thread Andrea Gasparini
Bruno Ducrot spiffera, alle 18:46, lunedì 12 dicembre 2005 circa:
> Try
> echo 0 > /proc/acpi/fan/xx/state
> to turn it on, and
> echo 3 > /proc/acpi/fan/xx/state
> to turn it off.
simply, it doesn't work... 
where can I get some logs?
( i'll try enabling a little debug while compiling the kernel...)

thanks, anyway... :P
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Re: installing a debian source ISO

2005-12-13 Thread Adam Stiles
On Tuesday 13 Dec 2005 12:23, fernando tear wrote:
> I get source debian sarge ISO and i am trying to
> install it.
> I search it by internet and i found how install a
> binary distribution, not a source one.
>
> where can i find the steps to install a source
> distro??

Good on you for installing from source; but I will warn you in advance, it is 
not as easy as installing "click and go" spyware-infested applications under 
Windows!  OTOH, there is something undefinable yet deeply satisfying about 
knowing you built it all yourself from source code .  just like the way 
vegetables from a supermarket never taste as good as the ones you grew on 
your own allotment, or other people's babies are never as pretty as yours.


First of all, you have to set up a minimal build environment on the target 
machine.  {You can't do this with just the debian sources disc; get something 
like an LFS or gentoo boot CD to use instead.  You might even be able to use 
Slax if you can find a version which includes GCC}.  Partition your HDD, and 
mount it somewhere like /target  {don't forget to mount other filesystems 
under it}.  Unless you have stupid amounts of RAM, enable swap space with 
swapon.  Build a text editor, GCC, a kernel, all the Debian packaging tools, 
the base system and lilo -- all with a PREFIX that will place them under the 
target system.  NB:  If the GCC version on your bootdisc is older than the 
source you have, build the new GCC first and use it to build everything else.  
Chroot into the target and set up /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf.  
Run /sbin/lilo.  *EXIT FROM THE CHROOT*, remove the boot CD and reboot into 
the target system.  

If that sounds too complicated, start installing a very minimal base system 
from a Debian binary install CD and complete it with sources compiled locally 
from your sources CD.

If that still sounds too complicated, cut your losses and download the binary 
ISO.  Is there a good reason you can't use netinstall?  Even with only a 
512Kb internet connection, it's still reasonably quick.


I don't doubt that somebody will have created a boot CD with a working build 
environment that can be used for bootstrapping Debian from sources.

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Re: Xvnc crashing

2005-12-13 Thread Thomas Besser
Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> Well last time I remember reading anything about vnc on amd64, the vnc
> server was known to be broken, while the client worked fine.  I have no
> idea if this is still the case or not.  By the looks of it, perhaps the
> vnc server is still broken on amd64.
> 
> A search of the mailing list archive may shed some light on things.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/10/msg00657.html

With the unofficial packages from that, it worked for me.

Thomas


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Re: installing a debian source ISO

2005-12-13 Thread Jo Shields

fernando tear wrote:


I get source debian sarge ISO and i am trying to
install it.
I search it by internet and i found how install a
binary distribution, not a source one.

where can i find the steps to install a source
distro??

greetings fernando



Debian isn't a "source based" distro like gentoo - if you really want to 
do that, look at "Debian from Scratch" - though I'd not recommend 
source-based distributions


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How to package SuperCollider (or, whats the deal with multiarch)

2005-12-13 Thread Mario Lang
Hi.

SuperCollider is for some reason I am going to explain below a bit
strange when it comes to porting it to AMD64:

SC consists of two separate programs, the synthesis server (connects to JACK),
and the language client which executes SCLang code.  Both processes
communicate with each other via UDP (OSC).

For reasons of design and speed vs. space tradeoffs, the language
*has* to be compiled as a 32bit binary.  The 64bit build fails
at runtime due to pointer size overflows.  (if anyone wants to know
more about it, the main reason for this is that SCLang uses a kind
of slot-mechanism to hold direct and indirect values all in a 64bit
double, therefore a 64bit pointer + tag does not fit).

OTOH, the synthesis server builds in 64bit mode, and works nicely.  It
actually has to be built 64bit, since it links to JACK, which
is most probably a 64bit version on an debian amd64 box...

Now, I can build and install this stuff by hand, simply build the
server on the system as usual, and build the language client in a sid-ia32
chroot, do the ld.so.conf magic and symlink sclang.  That works
nicely.
However, I am kind of wondering how to solve this properly
when it comes to packaging supercollider?
I am not up-to-date with how multiarch is exactly ment to work
these days, would it fit this kind of application?
If so, whats the proper way to do it, and can this already be done
with the infrastructure currently in amd64 sid?

-- 
CYa,
  Mario


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installing a debian source ISO

2005-12-13 Thread fernando tear
I get source debian sarge ISO and i am trying to
install it.
I search it by internet and i found how install a
binary distribution, not a source one.

where can i find the steps to install a source
distro??

greetings fernando








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Flash (Re: OpenOffice-2.0.)

2005-12-13 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
v0n0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This fd openoffice...I'm running even Firefox with Flash without
> chroot!!!

How have you managed that? All my attempts to install Flash on my
amd64 laptop have failed miserably...

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Re: Synaptic segfaulting

2005-12-13 Thread antonio giulio
Interesting. I don't manage to update apt to 0.6.43; it tries toremove synaptic, because it wants to replace libsigc++-
2.0-0c2 withlibsigc++-2.0-0c2a...I guess this will "sort itself" in a few days...?, I'm waiting since 3/4 weeks for libapt-pkg-libc6 updating:)Giulio