[martinw...@yahoo.it: Bug#497165: amiga-fdisk-cross is not being built on any architecture other than i386]

2008-10-08 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi,
could the buildd admins please enable building for amiga-fdisk and upload
the resulting packages (powerpc has been built, but it seems it was never
uploaded).

thanks,
Christian

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Subject: Bug#497165: amiga-fdisk-cross is not being built on any architecture 
other than i386

Not a bug in amiga-fdisk itself, but a Debian buildd issue that needs sorting

On 16 Jan 2008, armel was added to the architecture list for
amiga-fdisk-cross (bug #461081)
but, despite being enabled for 12 architectures, the package has not
been built for anything but i386.

I am guessing this is due to being included in the various buildd
admins' Not-For-Us lists - can you poke them?

Cheers!



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Re: Debian vs Ubuntu for Enterprise Production Servers

2006-11-17 Thread Marvin T. Pascual
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 09:12 +0530, Erle Pereira wrote:
 
 I use Debian almost exclusively on all the servers I control.
 Personally I think it comes to a question of choice.

Hello Erle,

Yes.  I will stick on Debian already.

Thank you for your suggestions.


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Re: USB rescue/boot disk

2006-09-12 Thread T
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:29:04 +0200, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:

 I want a bootable USB stick that will boot any machine that allows me to
 boot from USB: a Debian Live USB (and not CD). ...
 
 Is it actually possible to create an USB rescue/boot disk that contains
 a Debian Etch AMD64  or i386 based installation? Is there an image
 available somewhere?

When talking about rescue Live CD, IMHO, nothing comes close to grml
(grml.org).

What's more exciting is that it also come with an 55M alternative iso,
which is ideal for a Live USB. It is a pure Debian 386 based Live
system that will boot any machine that allows booting usb.

The root fs is read only, so it should be usb friendly.

http://grml.org/faq/#grmlsmall

tong




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Re: ACPI with AMD64

2006-02-10 Thread T. Eichstädt

Hi,

powernow is working without problems (processor is switching between 
1800MHz and 1000 MHz):


cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies:
180 100

Only switching between power states C1, C2, C3, .. (which is a 
different thing than cpu scaling) isn't available.


I have a ASUS A8N-Premium Motherboard, powernow is enabled.

Can you post the output of
/proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/power
/proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling
?

thanks
  Thimo

At 13:19 10.02.2006, you wrote:

Thimo Eichstaedt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hi folks,

The CPU does support powesaving, but does the BIOS?
Which motherboard do you have, and do you have powernow/cool'n'quiet 
enabled in BIOS?




 I have an Athlon AMD 64 3000 MHz and want to use its powersaving 
futures. Therefore I am using PowerNow with the powernow_k8 module. 
This is working

 great.
 Additionally it should be possible to profit from the power 
states of the processor (C1...C8). But the ACPI module tells me 
that only C1 is availabe:


 Modules loaded: processor, powernow_k8, cpufreq_userspace
 dmesg output when loading processor.ko module:
 ...
 ACPI: CPU0 (power states: C1[C1])
 ...

 cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/power:
 active state:C1
 max_cstate:  C8
 bus master activity: 
 states:
 *C1:  type[C1] promotion[--] demotion[--] 
latency[000] usage[03559864]


   cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling
 not supported

 Is this correct or what have I done wrong ? Can anybody with a 
AMD64 processor perhaps post its proc output ?


 Thanks
Thimo


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Re: beta status

2005-11-04 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 12:01:17PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 11:57:12AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
  On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
   On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 10:45:30AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
 Actually, we could simply make an exception for miboot and get it 
 into the
 archive, i think it is no worse than other cases (like amiboot, which 
 is
 linked to parts of amigaos, and thus non-free), and we do distribute 
 those (or
 at least used to distribute those in the woody times).

Amiboot is not linked to parts of AmigaOS. It is linked to libnix.
   
   which in turn is not in the archive, so amiboot can never be in anything 
   but
  
  It's statically linked (and libnix is public domain, according to Google 
  :-).
 
 Still not in debian/main, so amiboot needs to go to contrib.

libnix is an AmigaOS library, and is available on aminet, which IIRC predates 
Debian by a couple of years. Do you want to ship all free software on aminet
with Debian now, too?

 http://main.aminet.net/dev/gcc/libnixV1_1.readme
 Short:A static library for gcc (V1.1)
 Author:   [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Type: dev/gcc
 Architecture: m68k-amigaos
 
 This is a new release of libnix - a static (link) library for gcc.
 Changes from the last release include mostly bug fixes but also
 a few new functions. Sources included.

As you see, this is a library for use with gcc, the AmigaOS version, which I 
assume
is free also, after all it is GNU gcc. gcc, and crossgcc, are available on 
Aminet
also. So where exactly does amiboot become non-free here? I wouldn't mind if 
90% of
the debian archive contained Amiga software, it has been a while that I received
free Aminet CDs, but I guess some other arches might not like that waste of 
archive
space. 

Christian


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Re: beta status

2005-11-04 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 02:00:03PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 05:53:53AM -0700, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 12:01:17PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
   On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 11:57:12AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 10:45:30AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
  On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
   Actually, we could simply make an exception for miboot and get it 
   into the
   archive, i think it is no worse than other cases (like amiboot, 
   which is
   linked to parts of amigaos, and thus non-free), and we do 
   distribute those (or
   at least used to distribute those in the woody times).
  
  Amiboot is not linked to parts of AmigaOS. It is linked to libnix.
 
 which in turn is not in the archive, so amiboot can never be in 
 anything but

It's statically linked (and libnix is public domain, according to 
Google :-).
   
   Still not in debian/main, so amiboot needs to go to contrib.
  
  libnix is an AmigaOS library, and is available on aminet, which IIRC 
  predates 
  Debian by a couple of years. Do you want to ship all free software on aminet
  with Debian now, too?
 
 Well, it depends on stuff outside of main for use/build, so cannot go in main.

It is an AmigaOS binary, built from free source with free compilers. So we just 
have to
include all the free AmigaOS software to be able to ship a precompiled amiboot? 
As I said,
no problem with me, maybe we include all free TOS and MacOS software as well, 
ataboot and
Penguin have to be compiled somehow as well. So why not include aminet, and 
what ever are
the counterparts for atari, mac, maybe C64, Pet2001, those were nice machines 
as well,
and maybe we still use something that was first developed on one of those 
machines. Would
be a big boost for the emulator packages that are already in debian, and free 
software is
free software...

In case you did not get it yet, I think this would be a stupid thing, debian is 
about
Un*x, Linux, *BSD software. Do we have DOS compilers as well? What about 
loadlin?
The source(!) package contains a compiled loadlin.exe, but it also contains the 
source.
The makefile says: To compile with Borland TASM 3.1. In case that assembler is 
still 
available, is it free software? Don't you need to run DOS to use it?

But I guess thats what the editorial changes were about, lets throw out all 
the 
documentation, that should free up lots of space which we can fill with useless 
(for
debian) software. And while we are at it, let's shoot ourselves in the other 
foot as
well by throwing out all the boatloaders... isn't loadlin used on every 
bootable i386 CD?

Christian


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Re: opera

2005-10-13 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Attila Kocsis said on Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 01:53:30AM -0700,:

  I have just tried to install opera 8.5 on sarge amd64.
  Everithing seemed to be fine during the install except
  this:
 
Opera is not distributed by  Debian, afaik. Please ask this to whoever
/whatever connected with Opera.
 
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Re: Realplayer ?

2005-09-18 Thread Tim T.
On 9/17/05, Tim T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/17/05, Tim Matthews 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
maybe try mplayer with the realplay codecs?tim
that's one option, that I'll need to investigate anyway..
Anyway; I managed to get decent sound quality: I installed realplayer 8 wich I found in a legacy 
directory somewhere. 

Anybody understand why realplayer 10 would have problems, where realplayer 8 doesn't?
Ok.. follow up question:
I'm trying to record programs using vsound , without much success
- the 32 bit version of vsound exits as soon as realplayer starts playing
 (running both in a chroot doesn't seem to make a difference)
- the 64 bit version doesn't seem to intercept..(I hear the program, but nothing gets recorded. 

 Has anybody managed to get this working ?

 TimT.



Re: Realplayer ?

2005-09-18 Thread Tim T.
On 9/18/05, Tim T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/17/05, Tim T. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/17/05, Tim Matthews 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
maybe try mplayer with the realplay codecs?tim
that's one option, that I'll need to investigate anyway..
Anyway; I managed to get decent sound quality: I installed realplayer 8 wich I found in a legacy 
directory somewhere. 

Anybody understand why realplayer 10 would have problems, where realplayer 8 doesn't?
Ok.. follow up question:
I'm trying to record programs using vsound , without much success
- the 32 bit version of vsound exits as soon as realplayer starts playing
 (running both in a chroot doesn't seem to make a difference)
- the 64 bit version doesn't seem to intercept..(I hear the program, but nothing gets recorded. 

 Has anybody managed to get this working ?

 TimT

Right, Solved it: turned on the esd daemon, turned on the -t option to vsound..

At least I'll have something decent to listen to in the car tomorrow.. ;-)

TimT



Re: Realplayer ?

2005-09-17 Thread Tim T.
On 9/16/05, Tobias Krais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Tim, one thing I miss is being able to listen to the bbc, which uses realplayer.. I've googled, but I can't locate a realplayer or clone for Amd-64; tried building the Helixplayer, but that turned out to be a bit more work than I am
 willing to invest at this time. Totem won't play: apparently, this has problems with the cook codec So can any one suggest a workable alternative ?I use Realplayer in chroot to listen to BBC. It work quite well.
Good Luck!

Thanks for the tip.. unfortunately, I get a lot of drops and crackles.. Not sure what I did wrong
Let's review:
- created chroot; following the ubuntu howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575page=1pp=10
(This system is ubuntu based...Somethings were easier to configure that way)

- Downloaded realplayer 10 from the realplayer site: converted the rpm to deb,installed the deb
- created a symbolic link as specified in the howto above
- started realplayer realplay http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/listenagain/monday/rams/1930.ram

And listen to a lot of dropouts, and I don't mean the cast ;-(
(Audio system here is alsa based, on a an Acer Aspire 5024 Wlmi. Not sure what other information is 
relevant) 

Anybody have any idea ?

 TimT.
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Re: Realplayer ?

2005-09-17 Thread Tim T.
On 9/17/05, Tim Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
maybe try mplayer with the realplay codecs?tim
that's one option, that I'll need to investigate anyway..
Anyway; I managed to get decent sound quality: I installed realplayer 8 wich I found in a legacy 
directory somewhere. 

Anybody understand why realplayer 10 would have problems, where realplayer 8 doesn't?

TimT.
Tim T. wrote:On 9/16/05, Tobias Krais 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Tim,one thing I miss is being able to listen to the bbc, which usesrealplayer..I've googled, but I can't locate a realplayer or clone for Amd-64;
tried buildingthe Helixplayer, but that turned out to be a bit more work than I amwilling toinvest at this time.Totem won't play: apparently, this has problems with the cook codec
So can any one suggest a workable alternative ?I use Realplayer in chroot to listen to BBC. It work quite well.Good Luck!
Thanks for the tip.. unfortunately, I get a lot of drops and crackles.. Notsure what I did wrongLet's review:- created chroot; following the ubuntu howto at
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575page=1pp=10(This system is ubuntu based...Somethings were easier to configure that way)
- Downloaded realplayer 10 from the realplayer site: converted the rpm todeb,installed the deb- created a symbolic link as specified in the howto above- started realplayer realplay
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/listenagain/monday/rams/1930.ramAnd listen to a lot of dropouts, and I don't mean the cast ;-((Audio system here is alsa based, on a an Acer Aspire 5024 Wlmi. Not sure
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Realplayer ?

2005-09-16 Thread Tim T.
Hi,

 one thing I miss is being able to listen to the bbc, which uses realplayer..
 I've googled, but I can't locate a realplayer or clone for Amd-64; tried building 
 the Helixplayer, but that turned out to be a bit more work than I am willing to 
 invest at this time. 

 Totem won't play: apparently, this has problems with the cook codec

 So can any one suggest a workable alternative ?

 TimT. 


Re: Bug#324030: swt-gtk: FTBFS on 64 bit arches: error: cast from 'void*' to 'jint' loses precision

2005-09-13 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 10:52:02AM -0600, Shaun Jackman wrote:
 
 The build times out on m68k:
 make[1]: Entering directory `/build/buildd/swt-gtk-3.1'
 gcj -fPIC -fjni -c `find org -name *.java`
 make[1]: *** [java-stamp] Terminated
 make: *** [build-stamp] Terminated
 Build killed with signal 15 after 150 minutes of inactivity
 What's the solution?

That was me. The build was running on one of our fastest machines, but it
did not produce any output for two and a half hours. This is often a sign
for a crashed build. Since we do not want our buildds to be blocked by this,
we have a default timeout of 150 minutes. If there has been no output to the
build log file, the build is killed. Of course we can increase the timeout,
but it would be good to know some reasonable numbers, especially since the
build could end up on a slower machine and still timeout. This would only be
a fix, a solution would be if there is some output in reasonable time
intervals so we know that the build is still doing something. How about
compiling the source files separately, there would a new log line for every
source file? Some package like gcc are producing output at regular intervals
just to prevent the build from being killed:

: # start logwatch script for regular output during test runs
chmod +x debian/logwatch.sh
debian/logwatch.sh -t 1800 -p
/build/buildd/gcc-3.2-3.2.3ds9/build/logwatch.pid \
-m '\ntestsuite still running ...\n' \

But I still think a real solution would be some visible sign of build
progress for the sake of the nervous buildd maintainer.

Christian


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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-09-04 Thread Tim T.
 (This on an ACER 5024WLMi, by the way.. what irritates me is that I just booted
from the Ubuntu live CD, and did see the battery..this is funny, as I have it running on the very same laptop model.I put the kernel image and -headers package I built on
http://213.178.77.236/laptop/togehter with the kernels config. It's quick and dirty based on thedebian 2.6.12 config for amd64-k8, but without the debian patchapplied.
Hi Frederick,

 I've tried to rebuild the kernel with the configuration pulled both from the website and 
 the running kernel itself, but I can't get it to show me the battery.. About the only thing I haven't 
 tried yet is installing gcc-4.0 (bit tricky.. I'm developing code for work, which absolutely requires a 
 gcc 3.x)

 Are you sure that you haven't applied any other patches ? 

 By the way, using the code described on the acer_acpi homepage, I managed to get the wireless 
 working, on a homebuild 2.6.12.-5 with patches. It's nice to be able to work in the garden, even 
 though I need to set a timer to remind me of battery time.. (about 2.5 hours, on average)

 TimT.




Re: Acer 5024WLMI and wireless

2005-09-02 Thread Tim T.
On 8/31/05, Tim T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/30/05, Michelasso 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/30/05, Tim T. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Following up on my own post:
I found this: acerhk
(http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~tauber/acerhk/) Unfortunately,
development has stopped. I'd be willing to take a shot at it, but
there's some assembler in there, 
for a 32 bit processor that I'm not familiar with... Anybody here fluent in this ?
Give a look here: http://www.archernar.co.uk/acer_acpi/acer_acpi_main.html


 Thanks to Mark's work the wireless card in my Aspire 5024 is now working.
  


That's thrown my plans for the day.. I was going to
go home early, to buy a new network card.. I guess I just have to try
this first !

 Thanks !

 TimT. 
Wonderful ! Full speed internet access, from the back of the garden! I can happily confirm that the 
software metioned above works on my Acer Aspire 5024WLMI. Currently
using a gcc 3.3 compiled 2.6.12-5 kernel, no patches, ndiswrapper
1.3.rc1 , with the 64 bit (windows) driver from the acer site

TimT.



Re: Acer 5024WLMI and wireless

2005-08-30 Thread Tim T.
On 8/25/05, Tim T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,I recently bought an AMD64 Turion based ACER WLMi which alsofeatures a broadcom 4318,which is turned on by a switch on the front of the laptop.It looksas though this switch needssomesort of software to turn on the radio. I haven't found any
information on how make thiswork. (looks as though ndiwrapper does support the chipsetotherwise, which is somewhat frustrating.)Since I need wireless to work, I've decided to get a PCMCIA based
card for now. What would be agood card to get, given that I want to run an AMD64 based system ?Which card/vendor has64 bit drivers ?(Or does anybody have any idea on how to turn on the radio ?)

Following up on my own post:
I found this: acerhk
(http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~tauber/acerhk/) Unfortunately,
development has stopped. I'd be willing to take a shot at it, but
there's some assembler in there, 
for a 32 bit processor that I'm not familiar with... Anybody here fluent in this ?

Failing that,I stumbled across a good price on a prism54 based card, the smc2835w. Anybody got any experience with this ?

 TimT.
Thanks in advance for any help, TimT.


Re: Acer 5024WLMI and wireless

2005-08-30 Thread Tim T.
On 8/30/05, Michelasso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/30/05, Tim T. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Following up on my own post:
I found this: acerhk
(http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~tauber/acerhk/) Unfortunately,
development has stopped. I'd be willing to take a shot at it, but
there's some assembler in there, 
for a 32 bit processor that I'm not familiar with... Anybody here fluent in this ?
Give a look here: http://www.archernar.co.uk/acer_acpi/acer_acpi_main.html


 Thanks to Mark's work the wireless card in my Aspire 5024 is now working.
  


That's thrown my plans for the day.. I was going to
go home early, to buy a new network card.. I guess I just have to try
this first !

 Thanks !

 TimT. 


Acer 5024WLMI and wireless

2005-08-25 Thread Tim T.
Hi,

  I recently bought an AMD64 Turion based ACER WLMi which also
features a broadcom 4318,
  which is turned on by a switch on the front of the laptop.  It looks
as though this switch needs
  some  sort of software to turn on the radio. I haven't found any
information on how make this
  work. (looks as though ndiwrapper does support the chipset
otherwise, which is somewhat
 frustrating.)

  Since I need wireless to work, I've decided to get a PCMCIA based
card for now. What would be a
  good card to get, given that I want to run an AMD64 based system ?
Which card/vendor has
  64 bit drivers ? 

  (Or does anybody have any idea on how to turn on the radio ?)

  Thanks in advance for any help,

   TimT.



Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-24 Thread Tim T.
On 8/24/05, Frederik Schueler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 10:12:10PM +0200, Tim T. wrote:
   I've tried this kernel version and the patch.. without any luck:
  still no battery
  (This on an ACER 5024WLMi, by the way.. what irritates me is that I just 
  booted
   from the Ubuntu live CD, and did see the battery..
 
 this is funny, as I have it running on the very same laptop model.
 
 I put the kernel image and -headers package I built on
 
 http://213.178.77.236/laptop/
Wonderful ! I'll give it a spin tonight.. (left the laptop at the home office)


 
 togehter with the kernels config. It's quick and dirty based on the
 debian 2.6.12 config for amd64-k8, but without the debian patch
 applied.
 
  Also: the Ubuntu distribution has a 1280x800 resolution on this
  hardware, which  I can't seem to reproduce (At least, not with the
  modern Xfree config.. ) Could some one give me a pointer to a working
  configuration ? (I used to be able to compute modelines by hand. Don't
  see anywhere I can put a modeline these days.)
 
 see the xorg.conf on that location, the interesting part is the
 ModeLine.
 Ah.. I'm still using XFree, since I did not see an option to select
x.org anywhere.

Where can I find the x.org debs for amd64 ?
 
 Another issue: latest ATI drivers don't do 1280x800 at all, hardware
 forums I searched are full of users complaining about this.
 Hopefully the next ATI drivers release will fix this, as it's the only
 way of getting TV-OUT to work.
 
 Best regards
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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-23 Thread Tim T.
On 8/17/05, Frederik Schueler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 a short update on the acer wmli5024:
 
 On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:09:51PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
  ACPI is a mess (no battery status! (great for a laptop) nor thermal,
  only AC and buttons)
 
 battery status works with 2.6.12.5 and the latest acpi patch found at
 http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/lenb/acpi/patches/release/2.6.12/acpi-20050729-2.6.12.patch.bz2
 
 and temperatures too.
 
  the keyboard starts working after a few key strokes
 
 one stroke, and it is recognised (with 2.6.12.5+acpi)
 
  the touchpad is only recognised after rmmodding and modprobing psmouse
  again
 
 problem still present.
 
 best regards
 Frederik Schueler
 

hi Frederik,
 I;'ve tried this kernel version and the patch.. without any luck:
still no battery
(This on an ACER 5024WLMi, by the way.. what irritates me is that I just booted
 from the Ubuntu live CD, and did see the battery.. 

Would you be so kind as to post or mail your kernel configuration ? 

Also: the Ubuntu distribution has a 1280x800 resolution on this
hardware, which  I can't seem to reproduce (At least, not with the
modern Xfree config.. ) Could some one give me a pointer to a working
configuration ? (I used to be able to compute modelines by hand. Don't
see anywhere I can put a modeline these days.)

Thanks in advance

  TimT.



Re: nvu HTML editor

2005-07-30 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
A J Stiles said on Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 03:58:41PM +0100,:

  {Why, in 2005, do we  -still- need to separate these files?  Aren't
  disk-space-challenged  users  savvy   enough  to  just  delete  the
  unnecessary files for themselves?

If they are savvy enough, they will settle for smaller disk sizes.

Chances are also that Deleting files manually can break upgrade cycles.

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gtk/gnome problem?

2005-07-28 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
After an  apt-get upgrade about 10 to  15 days back, I  note that xmms
and cycle do not display text  in dialogs (like `open file' dialog and
error  messages),  and sometimes,  does  not  accept  input (open  the
selected files, cycle does not accept password, etc.)

Since the  problem does not  appear to be application  specific, where
should I look into?

Is this  related to  LANG* environment variables?   I use  en_IN.  (It
should  not  be  -  becaus  if  if the  message  files  for  the  LANG
environment  are  not found,  the  application  should  revert to  the
default messages).


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Acer Turion laptops

2005-07-26 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Anybody  knows what is  required to  install Debian  AMD64 on  on Acer
laptops with Turion processor?

A friend has been asking me for help; and will be doing it tomorrow; I
do not want to be embarassed if the installation fails. :-)

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Re: burn cd/dvd: permission /dev/sg0 denied

2005-07-25 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
antongiulio05 said on Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 06:49:54PM +0200,:

   I have downgraded udev version: 0.063-1 - 0.056-3 and mantained
   same kernel version 2.6.11-9.  However problem remains again: no
   permissions on /dev/sg0. 
   Have you any idea???

Had the same problem; downgraded udev, and it went away.

I use /dev/hda for the sony cd/dvd writer anyway.
  
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Re: Microsoft or MacOs executables

2005-07-14 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
jmt said on Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 09:22:07PM +0200,:

  I tried  to send a  message to Nikon  support : the  server crashes
  when reporting a bug not related to either MS or Mac.
 
  In the FAQ, I found :
 
  Nikon software is designed for Windows and Mac OS operating systems
  only  (this   does  not  include   the  server  versions   of  this
  software). Nikon do not have any plans at present to support Linux,
  UNIX or any other operating system.

Ah. I  am looking around in the  market for a digital  camera, and now
that Nikon is out of reckoning, my job becomes easier.
 

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Re: Microsoft or MacOs executables

2005-07-14 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Erik Mouw said on Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 10:44:24AM +0200,:

  Heh, I got quite  some Nikon gear, so if I ever  buy a digital body
  (slide film still can do so  much better IMHO), it will be a Nikon.
  Luckily(?)  my laptop  comes with  Windows,  which I  only need  to
  upgrade the BIOS...

Hmm.

Search the word `Nikon' on 
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Re: Microsoft or MacOs executables

2005-07-13 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Adam Stiles said on Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 08:25:09AM +0100,:

   How should I deflate, either one or the other, on my amd64 machine ?
  
  Don't.  Just go to a camera shop and get them to do the job for you.  And 
  then 
  complain to the manufacturer that their upgrade procedure is excluding users 
  of the popular GNU/Linux operating system  {which otherwise works fine with 
  their camera}  and can't they just use ordinary gzip?

And I second this.

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Re: Any DVD for install amd-64?

2005-07-01 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Nayandei said on Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 06:56:57PM -0100,:

  Can have any problem for  install sarge-i386 in a amd64? (of course
  will have 50% of performance) 

Of course yes.

Do a  minimal install of i386  (do not select  any additional packages
when the  installer asks), edit the /etc/apt/sources.list  to point to
amd64 and do apt-get update  apt-get upgrade.

Install additional packages *after* the upgrade.

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Re: SCSI-emulation

2005-06-23 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Attila Kocsis said on Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 06:26:54AM -0700,:

  How to enable SCSI-
  Emulation under Debian amd-64?
  Because XCDRoast says I have to do so in order to
  activate it...

Scsi emulation  is not  required if  you are using  a 2.6*  kernel. As
somebody else said  just ignore th message and  tell xcdroast that you
use /dev/hdX or /dev/cdrom or whatever your cdwriter device is.

Works fine on my AMD64 and gran old PIII running 2.6.11 kernel. 
 
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nfs and hsm

2005-06-21 Thread Dr T A Carpenter
Hello,

We have noted a difference between 2.6.11-9-em64t-p4-smp  and
2.6.8-11-em64t-p4-smp  when accessing via nfs our HSM (EMC/Legato
DiskXtender SM 2.9).  2.6.8 behaves normally,  i.e. if a file is on tape it
waits until the file is restored then continues processing the file.  2.6.11
triggers the staging of the file,  but never continues,  but waits
indefinitely (well at least 10 days!) although access from other clients
shows that the file has been staged.  Any suggestions?  Does anyone know if
anything was changed with the nfs code for 2.6.11 that might cause this?

Adrian

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Re: Successful install, but no boot

2005-06-14 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Nathan Dragun said on Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 05:52:25PM -0400,:

  boot disks are located at (2,0) but they're really located at (0,0).  I 
  was able to solve this by manually editing this through the grub boot 
  menu and then saving the changes.  Of course I need to do this every 
  time I update grub, but it works.

IMHO, the better option is to use grub-install --recheck /dev/hdXXwhatever


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Re: Successful install, but no boot

2005-06-14 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
J.A. de Vries said on Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:04:20PM +,:

  Someone else suggested something like this as well. But I've already
  tried editing the device map to no avail. 
 
grub-install --recheck /dev/hda

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Re: Successful install, but no boot

2005-06-14 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
J.A. de Vries said on Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 07:58:09PM +,:

  Jun 13 20:31:43 localhost kernel: hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61
  Jun 13 20:31:43 localhost kernel: hda: DMA timeout error
  Jun 13 20:31:43 localhost kernel: hda: dma timeout error:
  status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } 
  Jun 13 20:31:43 localhost kernel: 
  Jun 13 20:31:43 localhost kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown

Do a lsmod here. Some modules are getting loaded in wrong order / not
at all. 

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Re: Successful install, but no boot

2005-06-14 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
J.A. de Vries said on Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 03:13:51PM +,:

  On 2005-06-14 @ 11:08:27 (week 24) Lennart Sorensen wrote:
  
   Doesn't the install cd have a rescue mode anymore?  I know they did in
   the past but I haven't used it in a long time.
  
  Hmm, I thought to remember that too, but F1 revealed no such option.

AFAICT, simply typing  `rescue' at the boot prompt  while booting from
live CDs  helps, even if  th option  does not turn  up in F1  menu. In
fact, I  distinctly remember somewhere  that rescue/live CDs  have far
more options than can be found in the F1 menus.

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bug #311857 [was] Re: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

2005-06-13 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Carrick Detweiler said on Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 07:01:06PM -0400,:

  Has anyone installed onto an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum mother board?  I'm 
  having problems (see bug #311856 for details) and am wondering if this
  is a hardware compatibility problem or faulty hardware.  Any reports as 

No idea if I am being helpful, but I have no problems on a slightly
later version - K8M NeoV with K8M800 + 8237 chipset with a via chipset
and a sata drive.

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RE: EM64T Machine available for porting

2005-03-15 Thread Dr T A Carpenter
I hope it works!   I have 8 1850's (2.8 GHz EM64T's) running unstable at
the moment (with the test SMP kernel),  and have another 34 on order!

Adrian
Wolfson Brain Imaging Centre
University of Cambridge

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To: Martin Michlmayr
Cc: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: EM64T Machine available for porting


On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 10:15:50PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:

 I know most of the AMD64 work has already been done on AMD hardware,
 and I'm grateful for that work.  But I obtained this EM64T box for
 Debian so we can *test* whether Debian works rather than just assume
 it will.

We got various reports that it worked, but it sure couldn't hurt
to give it a good test. :)


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smp kernel success on Dell 1850

2005-03-10 Thread Dr T A Carpenter
Hi Guys,

Just reporting that kernel-image-2.6.10-0-em64t-p4-smp_2.6.10-5_amd.deb
works on a dual CPU Dell 1850 (all other smp kernel either panic or
instantly reboot just after the scsi probe).

Adrian

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SMP kernel panics on Dell 1850

2005-03-03 Thread Dr T A Carpenter
I've successfully installed debian-pure64/testing on a dual CPU Dell 1850
(EM64T) using pxeboot and the netinst kernel/initrd.  System installs really
easily and is running  2.6.8-10-em64t-p4.  /proc/cpuinfo reports 4 cpus
(hyperthreading is on). I have tried to install 2.6.8-10-em64t-p4-smp,
however  on boot just before the scsi modules are probed kernel reports its
not able to open an initial console,  then immediately after the scsi probe,
but before mounting the root partition the kernel panics.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  Also I am surprised that I see more than
one CPU using a non-smp kernel.

Adrian

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Re: installing on ASUS K8N-E Deluxe

2004-11-04 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 04:07:44PM -0500, Eric Sharkey wrote:
  The i386 install had one major obstacle,
 
 Have you tried audio/ALSA?  (For a good test app, play a game of
 bumprace.)

Works great in the i386 installation, does not work on amd64, but this is
due to bumprace not running (SDL parachute...), even with sound switched
off.

Christian




Re: installing on ASUS K8N-E Deluxe

2004-11-04 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 09:24:24AM -0500, Eric Sharkey wrote:
  On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 04:07:44PM -0500, Eric Sharkey wrote:
The i386 install had one major obstacle,
   
   Have you tried audio/ALSA?  (For a good test app, play a game of
   bumprace.)
  
  Works great in the i386 installation, does not work on amd64, but this is
  due to bumprace not running (SDL parachute...), even with sound switched
  off.
 
 Thanks, Christian.
 
 This is enough information for me to be reasonably certain that this
 problem only occurs on amd64 systems built with the Via chipset.
 (Your board is nVidia.)

I didn't know this problem existed, so one more reason to buy nvidia boards
for the next machines instead of via. If only the nforce NIC had not died...
It does not even show up with lspci. Oh, maybe it is one of the unknown
devices, that would agree with an nforce2 chipset which I recently set up.

Christian




Re: installing on ASUS K8N-E Deluxe

2004-11-04 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 07:18:32PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Christian T. Steigies wrote:
  There was nothing hooked up to the firewire, but the NIC was connected to a
  switch. So I guess it is a bug in the link detection code. Could there be
  anyhting in the installer log files? I could try to retrieve them tomorrow.
  I also tried a knoppix 3.6 (i386), it did not detect the network either.
 
 Yes there should be some info in there about the link info it reported.
 We probably need that and the model of nic card to do more.

Since I installed with the old CD after this, it seems the log files where
overwritten, and I can not install again just for testing, this will have to
wait until we get the next AMD64, which will probably have the same MB.

As for the onboard nic (which died after less than a days usage), I don't see
it in lspci, I think it is one of the unknown devices, I am guessing one of
the Bridges:

:00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00e1 (rev a1)
:00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00e0 (rev a2)
:00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00e4 (rev a1)
:00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00e7 (rev a1)
:00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00e7 (rev a1)
:00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00e8 (rev a2)
:00:05.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00df (rev a2)
:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 
00ea (rev a1)
:00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00e5 (rev a2)
:00:0a.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00e3 (rev a2)
:00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00e2 (rev a2)
:00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00ed (rev a2)
:00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
:00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
:00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
:00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 
5200] (rev a1)
:02:07.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
:02:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host 
Controller (rev 80)
:02:0c.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. (formerly CMD
Technology Inc) SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 02)

It is supported by the forcedeth driver:

forcedeth.c: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.28.
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:05.0[A] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:05.0 to 64
eth2: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 01043:80a7 bound to :00:05.0

It has eth2 now, since we had to plug in another NIC, which is detected as
eth0, before the builtin firewire and the builtin nforce3.

Christian




installing on ASUS K8N-E Deluxe

2004-11-02 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi,
we got another AMD64 machine at work, nearly identical to the one I
installed in late august, only difference, this one has an ASUS K8N-E Deluxe
mainboard. I set it up for Debian sarge/i386 and sid/amd64 with netinstall
isos I downloaded on oct 26 (i386) and today (amd64). I used linux26 for the
i386 install, amd64 has no linux26 image, but the default linux also boots a
2.6 kernel.

The i386 install had one major obstacle, the onboard network was not
detected, it might have loaded the nic module, but DHCP and manual network
config did not work. I think this is due to a second network card magically
appearing on the box, ethernet over firewire, which received eth0, the real
network card received eth1. After changing network/interfaces to use eth1
instead of eth0, everything worked out smootly.

The AMD64 install had another major obstacle, the installer did not find the
release file. It was looking in (typing from memory) debian/dists//Release,
which does not exist on the CD. I think the double slash is a clue, the
distribution (sarge, sid, whatever) is missing here. I didn't want to
remaster the CD, so I used the same image I used at the end of august, and
ran into the same problem. I had to change the debootstrap script to load
libgnutls11. And in addition to this, the ethernetcard was not detected,
just like in the i386 installation. The K8V mainboard does not seem to have
firewire built in, so there is no second ethernet adapter on that board.

Maybe this is a generic problem that the wrong network device might be
detected first and the installer does not check other detected eth devices
during network config?

BTW I also installed ubuntu on my P2 at home, and I don't know what the fuss
is all about. It is nice, but sarge is just as nice, maybe it asks a few
more questions, but the basic install looked pretty similar, it only uses a
different colour scheme. I didn't see any of the ubuntu backgrounds people
have been talking about, I think I prefer the blue debian swirl.

Christian




Re: installing on ASUS K8N-E Deluxe

2004-11-02 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 04:07:44PM -0500, Eric Sharkey wrote:
  The i386 install had one major obstacle,
 
 Have you tried audio/ALSA?  (For a good test app, play a game of
 bumprace.)

bumprace, what's that? ;-)

I tested audio/alsa on the i386 install I think. But I connected only one
pair of speakers (builtin in the monitor) out of the possible 8(?). Worked
fine with saytime and k3b, but only for the user account that was setup
during the installation, but not for a user account that was added later
(all our regular user accounts are in nis, the user in question is in the
audio, cdrom, .. group, but access to /dev/mixer was denied. Our nis guru is
on business travel, maybe I did something wrong when I set up that account).

But I guess you are interested in amd64, I think I tested saytime there too.
Unfortunately I only set up this machine, I will not be using it. In a
couple of months I might get a new one myself, though. IIRC I got sound to
work on the other AMD64 box without problems. Unfortunately the user of that
system is deaf, so it wasn't too high priority...

Christian




Re: installing on ASUS K8N-E Deluxe

2004-11-02 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 05:02:10PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Christian T. Steigies wrote:
  The i386 install had one major obstacle, the onboard network was not
  detected, it might have loaded the nic module, but DHCP and manual network
  config did not work. I think this is due to a second network card magically
  appearing on the box, ethernet over firewire, which received eth0, the real
  network card received eth1. After changing network/interfaces to use eth1
  instead of eth0, everything worked out smootly.
 
 The firewire ethernet will always be available as eth0 on systems
 running 2.6 that have a firewire controller. d-i should not have
 defaulted to a probably non-fuctional firewire interface if there was
 another ethernet interface that had link. If it did default to eth0 in
 the question about which one to use, this might be a bug in the link
 detection code.

There was nothing hooked up to the firewire, but the NIC was connected to a
switch. So I guess it is a bug in the link detection code. Could there be
anyhting in the installer log files? I could try to retrieve them tomorrow.
I also tried a knoppix 3.6 (i386), it did not detect the network either.

  The AMD64 install had another major obstacle, the installer did not find the
  release file. It was looking in (typing from memory) debian/dists//Release,
 
 Most times I've seen this reported it's been due to a problem reading
 the CD, which makes it not notice a symlink and not figure out what the
 suite is. We've mostly seen this one much older machines though, with
 DMA problems.

I think the CD drive was a LG DVD writer, I don't remember the exact model,
but I can check tomorrow. But if the drive does not like to operate in DMA
mode, why did it work with the old image, all images, i386 and both amd64
where written to the same CD-RW disk. The non-working amd64 image was
written with the LG drive itself, while the other images where written on my
desktop with plextor CD writer. But I don't think the image was bad.

Christian




Re: installing on ASUS K8N-E Deluxe

2004-11-02 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 04:47:16PM -0500, Eric Sharkey wrote:
 
 apt-get install bumprace.

apt-cache show bumprace | grep Maintainer
 
 The reason I mention it as a test app is because it's relatively small
 and easy to install, don't require 3D X accelleration (or much video
 at all) and it it's a good example of an app that sounds absolutely
 awful on my i386/sid Athlon64.
 
 Basically, when the CPU load goes above 1 (which will happen quite
 easily with bumprace) audio seems to just go to pieces.  Stuttering
 and dropping out, but also speeding up and changing volume erratically.
 Happens with all apps which put the CPU under load, AFAICT, and a
 few that don't, too, but most simple single-thread audio producing
 applications like saytime will sound just fine.

I think I heard something like this before, not sure which package. But it
only happened with 2.6 kernels, I think it was reassigned to the kernel, I
don't see it in the bumprace or sdl-mixer bugreports, maybe you can dig it
up...

Christian




Re: installing on ASUS K8N-E Deluxe

2004-11-02 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 05:37:05PM -0500, Eric Sharkey wrote:
 So, what I would like to know is, does bumprace sound ok on your
 ASUS K8N-E Deluxe, or does it sound like crap?

As I said, I am not using that machine, but I guess I can sneak into the
office and abuse it for playing games for a minute or two. Does it matter if
I test i386 or amd64 mode?

Christian




Re: installation stuck in loop

2004-08-30 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 02:32:12PM -0500, Mike Reinehr wrote:
 Christian,

 I'm not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for -- I'm new to this
 list -- but I just did a successful AMD64 install to an Opteron server with
 SATA hard disks, using the Debian From Scratch (DFS) method. (See The Debian
 GNU/Linux AMD64 HOWTO:
 https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id257798)

I see this only now, I am not subscribed to this list... this is also the
reason why I am breaking the threading, I was trying to reply to this from
master, but it ran out of space again, sorry for the inconvenience.

After downloading a fresh cdimage, I noticed it probably hasn't changed
since friday, the md5sums match. So I just did what Goswin said, fixed
/usr/lib/debootstrap/script/sarge to load libgnutls11 instead 10 and after
three tries (first it installed 10 and 11, and had some trouble, then awk
existed, and I had to remove it manually) it installed fine! Grub even
detected the Debian/i386 installation and lists it under other OS, didn't
try to boot his yet, though.

So why again is AMD64 not yet on the debian mirrors? It rocks!

Christian