Re: Skype 2.1 with ia32-libs Was: ia32-aptitude vs. aptitude
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 22:00, Sam Varghese wrote: > Why don't you just use the statically compiled version? > Unpack it in a directory and run it from there. > The statically compiled version has the same problem and solution that the .deb package version. You'll have to delete the /usr/lib32/libpulse.* Ernesto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Skype 2.1 with ia32-libs Was: ia32-aptitude vs. aptitude
On Sat, September 26, 2009 10:14, Ernesto Domato wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 18:30, Dave Witbrodt > wrote: >> For now, the officially supported solution is 'ia32-libs' again. The >> officially-supported multiarch solution is on the way relatively soon, >> so >> you'll have to decide whether to keep Goswin's no-longer-official >> packages >> until it arrives, or remove Goswin's packages and go back to >> 'ia32-libs'. > > Well. I went back to ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk and I have to > download the Ubuntu AMD64 version from Skype again so I can install it > without having to force it to do it by using the i386 version. But, I > founded that the new Skype version doesn't work with the ia32-libs > official package from Debian repositories unless you delete some files > from /usr/lib32 as suggested on the post referenced on bug #546281. > > This is just to let others knows if they have the same problem than me :-) Why don't you just use the statically compiled version? Unpack it in a directory and run it from there. Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
Ivan Marin writes: > 2009/7/7 Goswin von Brederlow > >David writes: > > > > > Thank you for you reply. Not, this does not work either (same > output as > > before): I got it by downloading the .deb from skype's site, and > > # ia32-dpkg -i skype-debian_2.0.0.72-1_i386.deb > > # ia32-apt-get -f install > > I am submitting a bug report now. > > By the way, in order to keep up-to-date, do I need to do apt-get > update, > > apt-get dist-upgrade, ia32-apt-get update and ia32-apt-get > dist-upgrade, all > > the four commands? > > Thank you, > > David > > Please Cc to me if replying. > > > > > > 2009/7/6 Goswin von Brederlow > > > > > Just the ia32-* commands. > > > Is there any howto for the use of ia32-apt-get? Or just the Debian.README? Just the readme. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
Bin Zhang writes: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> David writes: >>> By the way, in order to keep up-to-date, do I need to do apt-get update, >>> apt-get dist-upgrade, ia32-apt-get update and ia32-apt-get dist-upgrade, all >>> the four commands? >>> Thank you, >>> David >>> Please Cc to me if replying. >>> >>> >>> 2009/7/6 Goswin von Brederlow >> >> Just the ia32-* commands. > > Is there a workaround to get ia32-apt-get support in synaptic ? > Thanks, > > Bin Maybe setting the same command line option that are used for apt. But I have no idea if that works. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
Hi, On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > David writes: >> By the way, in order to keep up-to-date, do I need to do apt-get update, >> apt-get dist-upgrade, ia32-apt-get update and ia32-apt-get dist-upgrade, all >> the four commands? >> Thank you, >> David >> Please Cc to me if replying. >> >> >> 2009/7/6 Goswin von Brederlow > > Just the ia32-* commands. Is there a workaround to get ia32-apt-get support in synaptic ? Thanks, Bin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
2009/7/7 Goswin von Brederlow > David writes: > > > Thank you for you reply. Not, this does not work either (same output as > > before): I got it by downloading the .deb from skype's site, and > > # ia32-dpkg -i skype-debian_2.0.0.72-1_i386.deb > > # ia32-apt-get -f install > > I am submitting a bug report now. > > By the way, in order to keep up-to-date, do I need to do apt-get update, > > apt-get dist-upgrade, ia32-apt-get update and ia32-apt-get dist-upgrade, > all > > the four commands? > > Thank you, > > David > > Please Cc to me if replying. > > > > > > 2009/7/6 Goswin von Brederlow > > Just the ia32-* commands. Is there any howto for the use of ia32-apt-get? Or just the Debian.README? > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > >
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
David writes: > Thank you for you reply. Not, this does not work either (same output as > before): I got it by downloading the .deb from skype's site, and > # ia32-dpkg -i skype-debian_2.0.0.72-1_i386.deb > # ia32-apt-get -f install > I am submitting a bug report now. > By the way, in order to keep up-to-date, do I need to do apt-get update, > apt-get dist-upgrade, ia32-apt-get update and ia32-apt-get dist-upgrade, all > the four commands? > Thank you, > David > Please Cc to me if replying. > > > 2009/7/6 Goswin von Brederlow Just the ia32-* commands. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
Thank you for you reply. Not, this does not work either (same output as before): I got it by downloading the .deb from skype's site, and # ia32-dpkg -i skype-debian_2.0.0.72-1_i386.deb # ia32-apt-get -f install I am submitting a bug report now. By the way, in order to keep up-to-date, do I need to do apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, ia32-apt-get update and ia32-apt-get dist-upgrade, all the four commands? Thank you, David Please Cc to me if replying. 2009/7/6 Goswin von Brederlow > > > > That is because ai32-apt-get, by popular demand, is no longer allowed > to divert apt-get. You need to call ia32-apt-get or ia32-aptitude > instead. See NEWS file in the package. > > MfG > Goswin >
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
David writes: > Thank you. I followed your steps, even after deleting /etc/ia32-apt and > reinstalling ia32-apt-get (as the former directory did not update its > sources.list's). But I am afraid that it does not work yet: > # apt-get update > [...] > W: Failed to fetch > http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages > 404 Not Found > E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones > used instead. > # apt-get install skype > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Package skype is not available, but is referred to by another package. > This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or > is only available from another source > E: Package skype has no installation candidate > I am using the latest versions of all the packages. Should I file a bug > report? > Thank you, > David > Please Cc to me if replying That is because ai32-apt-get, by popular demand, is no longer allowed to divert apt-get. You need to call ia32-apt-get or ia32-aptitude instead. See NEWS file in the package. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
This is what I did to get skype working on my Debian. apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-amd64 dpkg -i skype-install.deb Regards. Andrés
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
Doesn't look like a bug to me. More likely a pbkac. The web site's error is clear: 404 page not found. This usually indicates that the looked for page could not be found (what a surprise!). Possibly your apt-get configuration file is wrong, or possibly that the page is actually gone from Skype's website. On 6 Jul, 2009, at 15:27, David wrote: Thank you. I followed your steps, even after deleting /etc/ia32-apt and reinstalling ia32-apt-get (as the former directory did not update its sources.list's). But I am afraid that it does not work yet: # apt-get update [...] W: Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. # apt-get install skype Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package skype is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package skype has no installation candidate I am using the latest versions of all the packages. Should I file a bug report? Thank you, David Please Cc to me if replying -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
Thank you. I followed your steps, even after deleting /etc/ia32-apt and reinstalling ia32-apt-get (as the former directory did not update its sources.list's). But I am afraid that it does not work yet: # apt-get update [...] W: Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. # apt-get install skype Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package skype is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package skype has no installation candidate I am using the latest versions of all the packages. Should I file a bug report? Thank you, David Please Cc to me if replying
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 04:03:59PM +0100 David said: > Hello, > > I have skype installed from > > deb http://people.debian.org/~rafael/skype-amd64 ./ > > but after ia32-libs upgrade, skype does not work any more: > > $ skype > skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXv.so.1: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory > > I think this is because /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libXv.so.1 does not exist > in the new version of ia32-libs (that is a dummy package, by the way). My > first try was to write to skype amd64's maintainer, but as displayed at the > bottom of http://people.debian.org/~rafael, he left Debian. > > So I would like to ask whether some of you got skype working, and how. Also, > if there is any IT-knowledgable here, would anyone fancy maintaining skype > in amd64 from now on? :-) I installed it some months ago using this guide: http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mennucc1/skype.html I run the testing stream and Skype works fine for me. Sam -- (Sam Varghese) http://www.gnubies.com Woman begins by resisting a man's advances and ends by blocking his retreat. My PGP key: http://www.gnubies.com/encryption/sign.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
David writes: > Hello, > I have skype installed from > deb http://people.debian.org/~rafael/skype-amd64 ./ > but after ia32-libs upgrade, skype does not work any more: > $ skype > skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXv.so.1: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory > I think this is because /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libXv.so.1 does not exist in > the new version of ia32-libs (that is a dummy package, by the way). My first > try was to write to skype amd64's maintainer, but as displayed at the bottom > of http://people.debian.org/~rafael, he left Debian. > So I would like to ask whether some of you got skype working, and how. Also, > if there is any IT-knowledgable here, would anyone fancy maintaining skype in > amd64 from now on? :-) > Thank you very much in advance, > David > Please Cc to me if replying The ia32-libs/ia32-libs-gtk transition goes in two steps. The first installs a dummy package that pulls in ia32-apt-get and then it updates to depend on (nearly) all the 32bit libraries it once contained. So you need to "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" once more to complete the transition. You might also want to use the offial skype packages. From the upcoming versions README.Debian: 4) Example entry for skype -- Say you want to install a 3rd party debian package that is only available in 32bit, like skype. Then you add the following entry to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb [arch=i386] http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free The [arch=i386] flags this entry as 32bit only. Since you changed sources.list there is some post processing to do so ia32-apt-get knows about the change. After that update and install: /usr/share/ia32-apt-get/convert-all-sources.list apt-get update apt-get install skype MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Skype after ia32-libs update?
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 04:03:59PM +0100, David wrote: > I have skype installed from > > deb http://people.debian.org/~rafael/skype-amd64 ./ > > but after ia32-libs upgrade, skype does not work any more: > > $ skype > skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXv.so.1: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory > > I think this is because /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libXv.so.1 does not exist > in the new version of ia32-libs (that is a dummy package, by the way). My > first try was to write to skype amd64's maintainer, but as displayed at the > bottom of http://people.debian.org/~rafael, he left Debian. > > So I would like to ask whether some of you got skype working, and how. Also, > if there is any IT-knowledgable here, would anyone fancy maintaining skype > in amd64 from now on? :-) Well it might go back to "working" when the ia32-libs transition completes. Might be a few days or weeks to do all that thought. Looks like a lot of work. Or stick with libc and ia32-libs from testing for a while. Or you could just say no to vendor lockin and crappy network protocols. That's been my solution. :) -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Skype 2.0 beta on debian sid amd64?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Stiles wrote: > On Monday 10 Dec 2007, Lars Schimmer wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I want to use the skype 2.0 beta .deb package on my debian amd64 sid >> system. I saw hell a lot of guides hwoto use chroot, but I don't want a >> chroot! Any guide available which is simple enough (e.g. just install some >> .deb and it works?)? > > This is entirely Skype's fault, not Debian's. [Snip] I know all this and don't want to talk deeply about that. In several constructs you just need to use a special software. If not under amd64, use i386, if not linux, use windows. It's not about willing to use ONLY free software, it's the NEED to use it. And no, I won't quit my job for not using non-free-software. Now skype under amd64 works for chat and talk, webcam needs to be tested. MfG, Lars Schimmer - -- - - TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXlrQmWhuE0qbFyMRAn/7AJ0d5m7AUTiyFRQAGlCWXyInDMLPTgCdEPU3 QU8XDBLuJns2Yd/79mFgwOw= =ax5R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype 2.0 beta on debian sid amd64?
Hi guys! The theory is quite simple (I hope...). One can just install, use '--foce-something' to bypass achiteture no match error, the .deb for i386. After that run "ldd /usr/bin/skype | grep 'not found'" this will list the 32 bits library files that skype binary executable can not find on your system. So you must get the debian package for 32bits that provides de missing libraries, unpack it -- dpkg-deb -x library-package.deb destdir/ -- and copy .so to '/usr/lib32' --- sudo cp destdir/usr/lib/*.so /usr/lib32/. Run ldconfig and the skype should run smoothely (this word is right???). I made this for skype and flashplugin for 32bits, now I have skype 32 running ok on amd64 and swiftfox render almost any site running flash(7,8,9...). There is a site that shows how to repackage skype 32 bits having all 32bits libraries needed within it, but I miss the url...(really, really sorry). I hope this help. Em Monday 10 December 2007, Lars Schimmer escreveu: > Hi! > > I want to use the skype 2.0 beta .deb package on my debian amd64 sid > system. I saw hell a lot of guides hwoto use chroot, but I don't want a > chroot! Any guide available which is simple enough (e.g. just install some > .deb and it works?)? > > MfG, > Lars Schimmer > -- > - > TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung > Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 -- Schmitz, Marlon Régis Systems Engineer Chief of Research Laboratory [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] +55 51 3433 9875 Office +55 51 3433 9880 General +55 51 9198 2962 Mobile SKYPE: mrschmitz MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:135952389,mrschmitz JABBER: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Skype 2.0 beta on debian sid amd64?
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 10:37:52AM +0100, Lars Schimmer wrote: > I want to use the skype 2.0 beta .deb package on my debian amd64 sid system. > I saw hell a lot of guides hwoto use chroot, but I don't want a chroot! > Any guide available which is simple enough (e.g. just install some .deb > and it works?)? If they have an amd64 .deb then it should work. If they don't then you should use a chroot with a 32bit debian install to install it into. You can certainly bash it hard enough and force it, but the results are generally quite bad when one tries to force the packaging system to do things the wrong way. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype 2.0 beta on debian sid amd64?
On Monday 10 Dec 2007, Lars Schimmer wrote: > Hi! > > I want to use the skype 2.0 beta .deb package on my debian amd64 sid > system. I saw hell a lot of guides hwoto use chroot, but I don't want a > chroot! Any guide available which is simple enough (e.g. just install some > .deb and it works?)? This is entirely Skype's fault, not Debian's. Skype is Caged software. The download is a pre-compiled binary which requires a certain system configuration, with exactly the right versions of exactly the right libraries in exactly the right places. If Skype simply made their Source Code available, then anybody would be able to compile it and run it on anything. And Skype would not lose anything; they already give the binaries away for nothing, for crying out loud! In fact, they'd end up making a net gain in the long run; because VoIP using the (Free) SIP and IAX protocols is already big, and it would be bigger if not for interoperability concerns. Interoperability is something we all take for granted, every day, in every field except computers. When you buy any electrical appliance, you don't have to worry about whether it will work with the voltage and frequency in your home. When you buy a tethered phone, you don't have to worry about whether it will work with your local exchange. When you buy a car, you don't have to worry about whether it will work with the fuel available in your area. I believe the town of Baltimore, Maryland learned an important lesson on the subject of interoperability in 1904. The best thing to do is to write to your Elected Representative and ask for a law, mandating user access to Source Code. Otherwise, it's a matter of time before something really serious happens that would have been prevented if Caged software were banned. -- AJS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype 2.0 beta on debian sid amd64? - solved, thx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sandro Tosi wrote: > Hi Lars, > >> Now I installed all missing libs and it tells me nothing... >> I start skype in bash with "skype" and it opens a window, close it >> direct afterward and tells me "aborted". >> Strange > > You could execute it with > > $ strace skype > > or using gdb > > $ gdb skype > then run Hmm. A gdb trace showed nothing special. But I deleted ALL old files form a tried 1.4.x install and now it starts up and a sound appeared. > Hope this could help. > > Regards, Thank you all :-) MfG, Lars Schimmer - -- - - TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXVGZmWhuE0qbFyMRApJWAJ9RTbzr23YMNBJmaK9S7K6+XsO18wCbBotx PXabo5Nv2VTvbJpRvQ/HNss= =86gb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype 2.0 beta on debian sid amd64?
Hi Lars, > Now I installed all missing libs and it tells me nothing... > I start skype in bash with "skype" and it opens a window, close it > direct afterward and tells me "aborted". > Strange You could execute it with $ strace skype or using gdb $ gdb skype then run Hope this could help. Regards, -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, Morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype 2.0 beta on debian sid amd64?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 HI! Ok. Now I installed all missing libs and it tells me nothing... I start skype in bash with "skype" and it opens a window, close it direct afterward and tells me "aborted". Strange MfG, Lars Schimmer - -- - - TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXUlBmWhuE0qbFyMRAg0QAJwK+i0PbROanmyLa4Kb+PXdzPufLQCfXI8p D40cnMEVbn6CyuJ35aEYpNg= =f3aa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype 2.0 beta on debian sid amd64?
On 12/10/2007 10:37 AM, Lars Schimmer wrote: > Hi! > > I want to use the skype 2.0 beta .deb package on my debian amd64 sid system. > I saw hell a lot of guides hwoto use chroot, but I don't want a chroot! > Any guide available which is simple enough (e.g. just install some .deb > and it works?)? > > MfG, > Lars Schimmer Hi Lars, I'm using it... but not the .deb package! ;-) Just download the static version, untar it and run... :-) Wait... I found a problem with a library Skype needed: it was the i386 version of libXss, iirc. To solve this little problem, simply download it from packages.debian.org, decompress the package with dpkg (-x option) and copy the libXss.* files in /usr/lib32 (pay attention not to copy it in /usr/lib or /usr/lib64, since you'd overwrite the 64bit version!). That's all... it works here! Hope it helps. mfv -- Matteo F. Vescovi mfv (at) fsugpadova (dot) org Free Software Users Group Padova http://www.fsugpadova.org GPG Fingerprint: 8EF0 F019 80D1 96BF C9C6 387E D6DE 031F 991F 9D2D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype 2.0 beta on debian sid amd64?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: > Hi >>> I want to use the skype 2.0 beta .deb package on my debian amd64 sid >>> system. >>> I saw hell a lot of guides hwoto use chroot, but I don't want a chroot! >>> Any guide available which is simple enough (e.g. just install some .deb >>> and it works?)? >> Tecnically, you can't simply install the .deb in the 64-bit system, as >> it is for a 32-bit debian. In practice, you can try >> --force-architecture (or something similar), but there is no guarantee >> that there are packages with the 32-bit libraries that Skype needs, >> and even if there are, it might simply not work. > > I have always had problem with force-architechture next time I try to > upgrade. I have been running the static version of skype directly in my 64 > bit system. I copy the binary to /usr/local/bin and run it without any > problems or chroot. > > I just installed 2.0 beta. The 32-bit libXss.so.1* must be copied to > /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib and then it runs smoothly. To bad, grabbed it, copy the folder into /opt/ and symlinked the bin file... Now it wants a libasound.so.2 lib... > Hope it helps > Gudjon > > > MfG, Lars Schimmer - -- - - TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXTgOmWhuE0qbFyMRAt3BAJwNz6kgdcL4Vr/6KF8T7NaOGWf7QACfdGcA Yq7Bde7KaLFnEpl4LzsVeIw= =qMF+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype 2.0 beta on debian sid amd64?
Hi >> I want to use the skype 2.0 beta .deb package on my debian amd64 sid >> system. >> I saw hell a lot of guides hwoto use chroot, but I don't want a chroot! >> Any guide available which is simple enough (e.g. just install some .deb >> and it works?)? > > Tecnically, you can't simply install the .deb in the 64-bit system, as > it is for a 32-bit debian. In practice, you can try > --force-architecture (or something similar), but there is no guarantee > that there are packages with the 32-bit libraries that Skype needs, > and even if there are, it might simply not work. I have always had problem with force-architechture next time I try to upgrade. I have been running the static version of skype directly in my 64 bit system. I copy the binary to /usr/local/bin and run it without any problems or chroot. I just installed 2.0 beta. The 32-bit libXss.so.1* must be copied to /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib and then it runs smoothly. Hope it helps Gudjon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype 2.0 beta on debian sid amd64?
On Dec 10, 2007 7:37 AM, Lars Schimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I want to use the skype 2.0 beta .deb package on my debian amd64 sid system. > I saw hell a lot of guides hwoto use chroot, but I don't want a chroot! > Any guide available which is simple enough (e.g. just install some .deb > and it works?)? Tecnically, you can't simply install the .deb in the 64-bit system, as it is for a 32-bit debian. In practice, you can try --force-architecture (or something similar), but there is no guarantee that there are packages with the 32-bit libraries that Skype needs, and even if there are, it might simply not work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/
On 12/1/05, Lars Schimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like in the other Email, it didn't start. > But now I solved it: > Your skype package misses the dependancy of skype on lib32xft2. > I installed the lib32xft2 package and it worked well enough like before. This is not right since I uploaded an updated ia32-libs (1.5-200511xx). I forgot to change skype deps to install it. Please remove lib32xft2, upgrade ia32-libs and retry it!
Re: Skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/
Lars Schimmer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Has anyone beside me problems with the latest .deb for skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/ ? Here skype won't start at all, but the first version of skype from that rep did work well enough. Cya Lars - -- Brother had problems with upgrades on Windows since Ebay took over.His solution was to use gizmo, unfortunately still proprietary, but conforms to sip standrd and is cross platform. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 v0n0 wrote: > On 12/1/05, v0n0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>On 12/1/05, Lars Schimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>>Hash: SHA1 >>> >>>Hi! >>> >>>Has anyone beside me problems with the latest .deb for skype from >>>http://v0n0.altervista.org/ ? >>>Here skype won't start at all, but the first version of skype from that >>>rep did work well enough. > > > Which problems do you experience? Like in the other Email, it didn't start. But now I solved it: Your skype package misses the dependancy of skype on lib32xft2. I installed the lib32xft2 package and it worked well enough like before. Cya Lars - -- - - TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel.: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xB87A0E03 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDjvTfVguzrLh6DgMRAmlKAJ41pt0S6qPzHLUTDe3C1qT4ntnuhwCcCuNc SucPHU9+e4KwZmap+Ug/YG4= =BBTK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/
On 12/1/05, v0n0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/1/05, Lars Schimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi! > > > > Has anyone beside me problems with the latest .deb for skype from > > http://v0n0.altervista.org/ ? > > Here skype won't start at all, but the first version of skype from that > > rep did work well enough. Which problems do you experience?
Re: Skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/
On 12/1/05, Lars Schimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi! > > Has anyone beside me problems with the latest .deb for skype from > http://v0n0.altervista.org/ ? > Here skype won't start at all, but the first version of skype from that > rep did work well enough. > > Cya > Lars > - -- > - - > TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung > Tel.: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PGP-Key-ID: 0xB87A0E03 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFDjtVdVguzrLh6DgMRAuEsAJ4uQ3V8w+X0exA8tERSWYYuXtXHfQCfQzVx > I2fviE/h8/hRpNV86sj2J50= > =QZ4i > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: skype and artsdsp
Hi! Michelasso wrote: Hello everybody, I have downloaded and installed the static version of skype on my sid box (not inside a chroot). Using ia32-libs and the libXcursor.so.1 and libXft.so.2 from the chroot 32bit directory I can run it; but when I run it trough artsdsp (following the suggestions on the skype web page on how to setup sound) I get the following error: ./skype: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libartsdsp.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory This use to mean that the program can't load that library, in this case I think that the libartsdsp.so.0 (or the file the link points to) is a 64bits library, thus your 32bits binary can't read it. I think that there should be a way of keeping 32/64bits libraries for alsa too, but I just don't know how to do it. maybe you would have to go for the chroot (again)... does anybody knows what is the state of multiarch?, I think that having a chroot is rather unconfortable. Hope this helps, Ildefonso Camargo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype?
I have skype in my chroot installed from the .deb file and it's working without problems for months now... On 7/12/05, Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Mikhailovsky wrote: > > Same here, has been running skype for about 6 months now. 32bit chroot, > > works like a charm :-) > > > > For me it doesn't. I have tried both the static version and > the dynamic in the suggested chroot environment (based upon > Sarge). It displays a Window with some unselectable menu > options and a link saying "Click here to login", then > it is silent. > > > ??? > > > Regards > > Harri > > > -- Engañarse por amor es el engaño más terrible; es una pérdida eterna para la que no hay compensación ni en el tiempo ni en la eternidad. Kierkegaard Jaime Ochoa Malagón Integrated Technology Tel: (55) 52 54 26 10
Re: Skype?
Andrei Mikhailovsky wrote: > Same here, has been running skype for about 6 months now. 32bit chroot, > works like a charm :-) > For me it doesn't. I have tried both the static version and the dynamic in the suggested chroot environment (based upon Sarge). It displays a Window with some unselectable menu options and a link saying "Click here to login", then it is silent. ??? Regards Harri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Skype?
Am 2005-07-05 09:26:02, schrieb Lennart Sorensen: > Asterisk PBX is for running real phone systems (not VoIP) over T1/E1 > (24/32 voice channels) and analog phone lines. It does extensions and ??? So I must shutdown my Server now because it does not more work? :-) > skype and other VoIP systems are for making phone calls over the > internet to other VoIP users, and on some systems (I believe skype is > one of them) it also deals with transfering the call to a normal > telephone and vice versa. I am pretty sure asterisk also allows for > VoIP but that is certainly not its main purpose. "asterisk" IS VoIP. At the beginning I had not telephoneline and used 'asterisk' to connect kphone and some SIP-Phones to it, worldwide! Then I have instralled 6 Digium X100P Analog cards and now it is realy fun. :-) > Len Sorensen Greetings Michelle -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: Skype?
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 14:26, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 07:24:30AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > I know this is a bit OT, but can somebody explain to me the allure of
> > Skype when there is a huge SIP community, with soft phones, hard phones,
> > and even the asterisk PBX in Linux?
>
> Asterisk PBX is for running real phone systems (not VoIP) over T1/E1
> (24/32 voice channels) and analog phone lines. It does extensions and
> voicemail and all that other good stuff you would want in an office
> phone system for thousands less than nortel and company charge while
> being easier to configure (it would be hard to make things harder to
> configure than a nortel BCM).
>
> skype and other VoIP systems are for making phone calls over the
> internet to other VoIP users, and on some systems (I believe skype is
> one of them) it also deals with transfering the call to a normal
> telephone and vice versa. I am pretty sure asterisk also allows for
> VoIP but that is certainly not its main purpose.
>
> Len Sorensen
Telephony is really as broad a subject as computers, so it is not surprising
that there exists some confusion!
The company where I work use Asterisk internally. It provides a VOIP
telephone exchange, which can be as simple or as complex as you like. When
used in conjunction with suitable hardware, it can be used to connect to a
"real world" telephone line. We have two E1 lines {= 60 B-channels}.
Asterisk speaks to both of them, and also interfaces with a multi-channel
modem card which we use for sending FAXes via the ISDN.
If the recipient has a simple analogue telephone or FAX, their local exchange
deals with the A-to-D and D-to-A conversion.
Asterisk speaks SIP and IAX, which are open protocols; but not Skype. Skype
is a closed protocol. If the Skype company ever goes T.U., then any
investment you have made in it is instantly worthless -- and you could be
left without any phone service! No single entity controls SIP telephony, and
so there is no chance that this could happen. Another player would step into
the breach.
Of course, the long-term answer to this situation would be an outright ban on
proprietary protocols. Since it is part of Common Law Property Rights that
one is automatically privy to any secret embodied in any article that one
rightfully owns, this prohibition probably exists already but is obviously
being widely flouted.
--
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Re: Skype?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes: > On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 07:24:30AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: >> I know this is a bit OT, but can somebody explain to me the allure of >> Skype when there is a huge SIP community, with soft phones, hard phones, >> and even the asterisk PBX in Linux? > > Asterisk PBX is for running real phone systems (not VoIP) over T1/E1 > (24/32 voice channels) and analog phone lines. This is just plain wrong. I use Asterisk at home, and all my asterisk installation does is take incoming SIP calls, forward them to my SIP hardware phone, and vice versa. No real telco hardware involved. SO saying it is *not* for VoIP is just wrong. -- CYa, Mario pgpmVBOG2rb3N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Skype?
Am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2005 15:35 schrieb John Goerzen: > On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 09:26:02AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 07:24:30AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > > I know this is a bit OT, but can somebody explain to me the allure of > > > Skype when there is a huge SIP community, with soft phones, hard > > > phones, and even the asterisk PBX in Linux? > > > > Asterisk PBX is for running real phone systems (not VoIP) over T1/E1 > > (24/32 voice channels) and analog phone lines. It does extensions and > > It does these things, yes, but it *does* do VOIP. I use it in my own > home for precisely that purpose, and get 1.1 cent per minute long > distance service from voxee.com right now. > > I also use fwdnet.net to make calls over the Internet to other VOIP > users. > > > skype and other VoIP systems are for making phone calls over the > > internet to other VoIP users, and on some systems (I believe skype is > > one of them) it also deals with transfering the call to a normal > > telephone and vice versa. I am pretty sure asterisk also allows for > > VoIP but that is certainly not its main purpose. > > I would argue with you about that, but in any case, asterisk is by no > means the only VOIP software in Debian that can speak the standard SIP > protocol. Just try kphone, it does the same. I use it with sipgate.de. Best regards Hans -- Firma Ullrich-IT-Consult Inh.: Hans-J. Ullrich Münstedter Weg 10 31246 Oberg Tel.: 0160 8156 079 ICQ: 113448999 Ihr Berater für Ihre IT-Probleme ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype?
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 09:26:02AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 07:24:30AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > I know this is a bit OT, but can somebody explain to me the allure of > > Skype when there is a huge SIP community, with soft phones, hard phones, > > and even the asterisk PBX in Linux? > > Asterisk PBX is for running real phone systems (not VoIP) over T1/E1 > (24/32 voice channels) and analog phone lines. It does extensions and It does these things, yes, but it *does* do VOIP. I use it in my own home for precisely that purpose, and get 1.1 cent per minute long distance service from voxee.com right now. I also use fwdnet.net to make calls over the Internet to other VOIP users. > skype and other VoIP systems are for making phone calls over the > internet to other VoIP users, and on some systems (I believe skype is > one of them) it also deals with transfering the call to a normal > telephone and vice versa. I am pretty sure asterisk also allows for > VoIP but that is certainly not its main purpose. I would argue with you about that, but in any case, asterisk is by no means the only VOIP software in Debian that can speak the standard SIP protocol. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype?
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 07:24:30AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > I know this is a bit OT, but can somebody explain to me the allure of > Skype when there is a huge SIP community, with soft phones, hard phones, > and even the asterisk PBX in Linux? Asterisk PBX is for running real phone systems (not VoIP) over T1/E1 (24/32 voice channels) and analog phone lines. It does extensions and voicemail and all that other good stuff you would want in an office phone system for thousands less than nortel and company charge while being easier to configure (it would be hard to make things harder to configure than a nortel BCM). skype and other VoIP systems are for making phone calls over the internet to other VoIP users, and on some systems (I believe skype is one of them) it also deals with transfering the call to a normal telephone and vice versa. I am pretty sure asterisk also allows for VoIP but that is certainly not its main purpose. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype?
Am Dienstag 05 Juli 2005 14:24 schrieb John Goerzen: > On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 11:25:12PM +0100, Andrei Mikhailovsky wrote: > > Same here, has been running skype for about 6 months now. 32bit chroot, > > works like a charm :-) > > I know this is a bit OT, but can somebody explain to me the allure of > Skype when there is a huge SIP community, with soft phones, hard phones, > and even the asterisk PBX in Linux? Skype != SIP Skype use a close souce protocol. :-( asterisk takes part of sip -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype?
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 11:25:12PM +0100, Andrei Mikhailovsky wrote: > Same here, has been running skype for about 6 months now. 32bit chroot, > works like a charm :-) I know this is a bit OT, but can somebody explain to me the allure of Skype when there is a huge SIP community, with soft phones, hard phones, and even the asterisk PBX in Linux? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype?
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 06:18:11AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Anybody tried to run Skype with ia32-libs? Yes. Works fine. -- Pozdrawiam, Andrzej Kluz [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fajnysklep.pl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype?
Andrei Mikhailovsky wrote: > Same here, has been running skype for about 6 months now. 32bit chroot, > works like a charm :-) > Anybody tried to run Skype with ia32-libs? Regards Harri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Skype?
Same here, has been running skype for about 6 months now. 32bit chroot, works like a charm :-) Andrei On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 17:38 +0200, Johannes Pleikies wrote: > Hi Harald, > > I am successfully running Skype in a 32bit-Chroot - based on the unstable > distribution. I used the "Dynamic binary tar.bz2"-version. > > Best regards, > Johannes > > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Skype?
Hi Harald, I am successfully running Skype in a 32bit-Chroot - based on the unstable distribution. I used the "Dynamic binary tar.bz2"-version. Best regards, Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
