re: lm_sensors package

2006-01-10 Thread Craig Hagerman
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Date: Jan 10, 2006 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: lm_sensors package
To: Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thanks for all the advice. I have things solved and will report on
what I have done.

Did an apt-get install lm-sensors and then recompiled the kernel.
sensors-detect told me that it needed modules for:
eeprom
smbus-arp
w83627hf

I already had i2c stuff compiled as modules but didn't have the eeprom
module. I enabled that (device drivers  I2C support  miscellaneous
i2c chip support). I am not exactly sure where the other two are. The
only thing I found that looked like smbus-arp (subus I think) said it
was experimental and not recommended. Hmmm... what to do? I didn't
enable that. Likewise, I am not sure where to enable the w83627hf
modules, but under device drivers  Harware Monitoring Support  there
are 5 Winbond modules that sound similar. I built all of them as
modules. Later I did:
modprobe eeprom
modprobe w83627hf

and both worked! (I was expecting the later to fail, but apparently
one of those winbond modules IS the right one.) And not sensors does
give me a report:

 $ sensors
w83627thf-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
VCore: +1.50 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +3.84 V)
+12V: +11.43 V  (min =  +8.03 V, max =  +0.00 V)
+3.3V: +3.26 V  (min =  +1.54 V, max =  +0.45 V)
+5V:   +4.99 V  (min =  +3.41 V, max =  +4.19 V)
-12V: -14.91 V  (min = -14.91 V, max = -14.91 V)
V5SB:  +5.00 V  (min =  +1.83 V, max =  +0.00 V)
VBat:  +0.21 V  (min =  +3.84 V, max =  +0.27 V)
fan1:0 RPM  (min = 135 RPM, div = 1)
CPU Fan:  2205 RPM  (min =   -1 RPM, div = 4)
fan3:0 RPM  (min = 79411 RPM, div = 1)
M/B Temp:+30 C  (high =+2 C, hyst =+8 C)   sensor =
thermistor
CPU Temp:  +41.5 C  (high =   +80 C, hyst =   +75 C)   sensor =
thermistor
temp3: +20.0 C  (high =   +80 C, hyst =   +75 C)   sensor =
thermistor
vid:  +0.300 V  (VRM Version 8.2)
alarms:
beep_enable:
  Sound alarm enabled



Re: lm_sensors package

2006-01-10 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 02:29:51PM +, Angus Mackenzie wrote:
 Whilst I'm on the subject though;
 
 I found the correct modules to modprobe (i2c-isa, eeprom and w83697hf)
 
 I put a stanza in the /etc/modutils/i2c after the alias char-major line
 
 I ran update-modules as root
 
 I found the module names added to /etc/modules.conf

Since 2.5.something kernel we use module-init-tools instead of modutils.

With module-init-tools you put the aliases and options into a file in
the /etc/modprobe.d/ directory. You can create your own file in there
and it should be read in the boot. The format is almost the same as
with modutils, but have a look at man modprobe.conf to be sure.

 Angus

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Re: lm_sensors package

2006-01-09 Thread Michael Langley
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:49:39 +0900
Craig Hagerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 When i do apt-get install lm_sensors it reports that it can't find any
 such package. I have tried using different sources in my source.list
 to no avail. I used to have this package installed on a previous
 debian amd64 installation. Anyone know what it up with this? Do I have
 to download the source and compile it myself now?
 
 Craig


Try lm-sensors with a dash instead of underscore.  Also you might want to play 
around with apt-cache search.  For example apt-cache search sensors will give 
you what you want.  For more details you can use apt-cache show lm-sensors.  
These are some pretty handy and powerful apt tools at your disposal.


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Re: lm_sensors package

2006-01-09 Thread Gilles
Hi.

 
 When i do apt-get install lm_sensors it reports [...]

lm-sensors

Best,
Gilles


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Re: lm_sensors package

2006-01-09 Thread Angus Mackenzie
You could try replacing the underscore character with a hyphen.

Glad I'm not the only one does that.

Whilst I'm on the subject though;

I found the correct modules to modprobe (i2c-isa, eeprom and w83697hf)

I put a stanza in the /etc/modutils/i2c after the alias char-major line

I ran update-modules as root

I found the module names added to /etc/modules.conf

So why do I keep having to modprobe them after every reboot?

Why do I just know I'm going to feel foolish shortly?

Angus


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Re: lm_sensors package

2006-01-09 Thread Jo Shields

Angus Mackenzie wrote:


You could try replacing the underscore character with a hyphen.

Glad I'm not the only one does that.

Whilst I'm on the subject though;

I found the correct modules to modprobe (i2c-isa, eeprom and w83697hf)

I put a stanza in the /etc/modutils/i2c after the alias char-major line

I ran update-modules as root

I found the module names added to /etc/modules.conf

So why do I keep having to modprobe them after every reboot?

Why do I just know I'm going to feel foolish shortly?

Angus


 


You could just run sensors_detect, to make it all work...


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Re: lm_sensors package

2006-01-09 Thread Gilles
Hello.

 
 So why do I keep having to modprobe them after every reboot?
 

You have to add the modules' name to /etc/modules to have
them loaded at boot.


Best,
Gilles


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Re: lm_sensors package

2006-01-09 Thread Emmanuel Fleury
Hi,

Jo Shields wrote:

 You could just run sensors_detect, to make it all work...

I would like to know how many of these chipsets are supported right now
on AMD64 motheboards. I have an Asustek A8NE-FM and it seems to me that
the thermal sensors are not supported at all.

Can somebody give me some hints where to find experimental drivers or a
way to develop mine by myself ?

Regards
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Re: lm_sensors package

2006-01-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 06:05:42PM +0100, Emmanuel Fleury wrote:
 I would like to know how many of these chipsets are supported right now
 on AMD64 motheboards. I have an Asustek A8NE-FM and it seems to me that
 the thermal sensors are not supported at all.
 
 Can somebody give me some hints where to find experimental drivers or a
 way to develop mine by myself ?

No idea about the A8N-E.  I know on the A8V (via chipset) I have working
sensors:

rceng02:~# sensors
w83627thf-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
VCore: +1.59 V  (min =  +0.92 V, max =  +1.02 V)
+12V: +11.37 V  (min = +10.82 V, max = +13.19 V)
+3.3V: +3.36 V  (min =  +3.14 V, max =  +3.47 V)
+5V:   +5.04 V  (min =  +4.75 V, max =  +5.25 V)
-12V: -14.91 V  (min = -10.80 V, max = -13.18 V)
V5SB:  +5.08 V  (min =  +4.76 V, max =  +5.24 V)
VBat:  +1.66 V  (min =  +2.40 V, max =  +3.60 V)
fan1:0 RPM  (min = 4623 RPM, div = 2)
CPU Fan:  5720 RPM  (min = 10546 RPM, div = 2)
fan3: 2884 RPM  (min = 2518 RPM, div = 4)
M/B Temp:+37?C  (high =  +104?C, hyst =+8?C)   sensor = thermistor
CPU Temp:  +53.0?C  (high =   +80?C, hyst =   +75?C)   sensor = thermistor
temp3: +21.5?C  (high =   +80?C, hyst =   +75?C)   sensor = thermistor
vid:  +0.975 V  (VRM Version 9.0)
alarms:
beep_enable:
  Sound alarm enabled

Maybe they used the same chip on the A8N-E.

I think some of my values are a bit off in the configuration at the
moment, but at least it has found some sensors chip that it can read.

On an A7N8X-E-DX I have this chip:
asb100-i2c-1-2d
Adapter: SMBus nForce2 adapter at 5500
VCore 1:   +1.66 V  (min =  +1.57 V, max =  +1.73 V)
+3.3V: +3.38 V  (min =  +3.14 V, max =  +3.47 V)
+5V:   +4.89 V  (min =  +4.76 V, max =  +5.24 V)
+12V: +11.61 V  (min = +10.82 V, max = +13.19 V)
-12V (reserved):
  -12.13 V  (min =  -0.00 V, max =  -0.00 V)
-5V (reserved):
   -5.09 V  (min =  -0.00 V, max =  -0.00 V)
CPU Fan:  7500 RPM  (min = 1997 RPM, div = 4)
Chassis Fan:
 0 RPM  (min = 3994 RPM, div = 2)
Power Fan:3214 RPM  (min = 3994 RPM, div = 2)
M/B Temp:+54 C  (high =   +45 C, hyst =   +40 C)
CPU Temp (Intel):
 +29 C  (high =   +60 C, hyst =   +50 C)
Power Temp:
+125 C  (high =   +45 C, hyst =   +40 C)
CPU Temp (AMD):
 +25 C  (high =   +60 C, hyst =   +50 C)
vid:  +1.650 V  (VRM Version 9.0)
alarms:

Len Sorensen


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Re: lm_sensors package

2006-01-09 Thread Angus Mackenzie
Thanks for the help, Jo and Gilles.

I think I had misunderstood the role of modules.conf, which sets up aliases 
and provides support in the form of parameters etc when modules are loaded.

I still have to put their names into /etc/modules to have them loaded at boot, 
yes?

Man update-modules suggests the command is obsolete

I had done all that sensors-detect stuff and got some figures up in ksensors.

I'm slightly puzzled that the cpu temp starts up from about 51 degrees when 
the screen is blank (computer left running)  and then cools down to 39 
degrees when I am working. Not that watching me type is much of a stretch for 
an AMD64 3400!  I'm also suspicious of fans that return speeds of 10,000 rpm; 
I thought they were closer to having a top speed of 3 000 to 5 000 rpm.

Angus Mackenzie


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Re: lm_sensors package

2006-01-09 Thread Adam James
On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 18:05 +0100, Emmanuel Fleury wrote:
 I would like to know how many of these chipsets are supported right now
 on AMD64 motheboards. I have an Asustek A8NE-FM and it seems to me that
 the thermal sensors are not supported at all.
 
 Can somebody give me some hints where to find experimental drivers or a
 way to develop mine by myself ?

The A8N-E uses the it8712 chip for hardware monitoring, you'll need
these kernel options in order to access it:

CONFIG_I2C=m
CONFIG_I2C_ISA=m
CONFIG_HWMON=m
CONFIG_HWMON_VID=m
CONFIG_SENSORS_IT87=m

'modprobe it87' should load the correct modules, then sensors should
autodetect the chip. 

On my nForce3 system I get the following output:

$ sensors
it8712-isa-0d00
Adapter: ISA adapter
VCore 1:   +1.10 V  (min =  +1.42 V, max =  +1.57 V)   ALARM
VCore 2:   +4.08 V  (min =  +2.40 V, max =  +2.61 V)   ALARM
+3.3V: +6.53 V  (min =  +3.14 V, max =  +3.46 V)   ALARM
+5V:   +4.95 V  (min =  +4.76 V, max =  +5.24 V)
+12V: +11.65 V  (min = +11.39 V, max = +12.61 V)
-12V:  +3.93 V  (min = -12.63 V, max = -11.41 V)   ALARM
-5V:   +4.03 V  (min =  -5.26 V, max =  -4.77 V)   ALARM
Stdby: +6.85 V  (min =  +4.76 V, max =  +5.24 V)   ALARM
VBat:  +4.08 V
fan1:0 RPM  (min =0 RPM, div = 2)
fan2:0 RPM  (min = 2636 RPM, div = 128)
fan3:0 RPM  (min = 3013 RPM, div = 8)
M/B Temp:+32°C  (low  =   +15°C, high =   +40°C)   sensor =
thermistor
CPU Temp:+32°C  (low  =   +15°C, high =   +45°C)   sensor =
thermistor
Temp3:  +128°C  (low  =   +15°C, high =   +45°C)   sensor = disabled

Obviously the voltage readings are incorrect, so you might need to get
an updated sensors.conf from CVS or do some tweaking yourself.

HTH.

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Re: lm_sensors package

2006-01-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 06:20:33PM +, Angus Mackenzie wrote:
 Thanks for the help, Jo and Gilles.
 
 I think I had misunderstood the role of modules.conf, which sets up aliases 
 and provides support in the form of parameters etc when modules are loaded.
 
 I still have to put their names into /etc/modules to have them loaded at 
 boot, 
 yes?
 
 Man update-modules suggests the command is obsolete
 
 I had done all that sensors-detect stuff and got some figures up in ksensors.
 
 I'm slightly puzzled that the cpu temp starts up from about 51 degrees when 
 the screen is blank (computer left running)  and then cools down to 39 
 degrees when I am working. Not that watching me type is much of a stretch for 
 an AMD64 3400!  I'm also suspicious of fans that return speeds of 10,000 rpm; 
 I thought they were closer to having a top speed of 3 000 to 5 000 rpm.

Many fans send 2 pulses per rotation.  If the fan monitor doesn't do a
divide, you get double speed indicated.

Len Sorensen


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