Re: youtube
Jaime Ochoa Malagón: I think we missed the point, we must remember some people prefer his OS pure, with no comercial software, ACK, of course this is a worthy goal. But you shouldn't pursue it for the wrong reasons. :) J. -- I often blame my shortcomings on my upbringing. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: youtube
On Saturday 19 Apr 2008, can comert wrote: i can't watch videos on youtube cause of there isn't a flash player for 64 bit ports On adobes web site i read that if i can install 32-bit operating web browser i can watch the videos how can i install a 32-bit operating web browser or how can i watch videos on youtube etc?? Firstly, do NOT install the Debian package of Flash player: it will be installed system-wide in the name of root. You should NEVER allow software whose Source code you have not inspected to be installed with privileges. If you have to install caged software, you should install it somewhere under your home directory and run it in your own name. (In the case of Flash, run the installer file as yourself and it will take care of everything for you.) There are i-tal alternatives to the proprietary Flash player. There is a Python script called youtube-dl which downloads the .flv files from YouTube that would have been called up by the Flash player; you can then view them using ffplay which is part of ffmpeg. The lastest GNASH is also able to view YouTube videos (but may require a patched ffmpeg). -- AJS delta echo bravo six four at earthshod dot co dot uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: youtube
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:28:54AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: A J Stiles: Firstly, do NOT install the Debian package of Flash player: it will be installed system-wide in the name of root. In the name of root? What do you mean by that? It's not that the flash plugin requires some binary running with UID 0. It's just a library (copied using root permissions into a place where every user can see it, just like every other package) that's being used by a browser. All the code will be run with the privileges of the user running the browser. You should NEVER allow software whose Source code you have not inspected to be installed with privileges. Great idea. In about a year I might have finished reading the patch from linux 2.6.24-to linux-2.6.25 (bzipped: 9MB!). When that's done, I'll start reading the code of my bootloader and the compilers I am using. It's just too bad that everything's obsolete by the time I am finished. :) but fist you have to read the code for less or what ever you are using to view the code :) J. -- I wear a lot of leather but would never wear fur. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html -- For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it. - George W. Bush 05/14/2001 Philadelphia, PA signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: youtube
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 03:30:25PM +0300, can comert wrote: i can't watch videos on youtube cause of there isn't a flash player for 64 bit ports There is: aptitude install swfdec-mozilla So long, Aiko -- :wq ✉ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: youtube
Alex Samad: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:28:54AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Great idea. In about a year I might have finished reading the patch from linux 2.6.24-to linux-2.6.25 (bzipped: 9MB!). When that's done, I'll start reading the code of my bootloader and the compilers I am using. It's just too bad that everything's obsolete by the time I am finished. :) but fist you have to read the code for less or what ever you are using to view the code :) And before that, I have to read the code of the compiler that has been used for less. And then the code of the compiler that has been used to compile the first compiler, and then... Oh, and don't forget your CPU's microcode! :) J. -- Driving behind lorries carrying hazardous chemicals makes me wish for a simpler life. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: youtube
A J Stiles: Firstly, do NOT install the Debian package of Flash player: it will be installed system-wide in the name of root. In the name of root? What do you mean by that? It's not that the flash plugin requires some binary running with UID 0. It's just a library (copied using root permissions into a place where every user can see it, just like every other package) that's being used by a browser. All the code will be run with the privileges of the user running the browser. You should NEVER allow software whose Source code you have not inspected to be installed with privileges. Great idea. In about a year I might have finished reading the patch from linux 2.6.24-to linux-2.6.25 (bzipped: 9MB!). When that's done, I'll start reading the code of my bootloader and the compilers I am using. It's just too bad that everything's obsolete by the time I am finished. :) J. -- I wear a lot of leather but would never wear fur. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: youtube
On 4/21/08, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:12:45PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Alex Samad: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:28:54AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Great idea. In about a year I might have finished reading the patch from linux 2.6.24-to linux-2.6.25 (bzipped: 9MB!). When that's done, I'll start reading the code of my bootloader and the compilers I am using. It's just too bad that everything's obsolete by the time I am finished. :) but fist you have to read the code for less or what ever you are using to view the code :) And before that, I have to read the code of the compiler that has been used for less. And then the code of the compiler that has been used to compile the first compiler, and then... Oh, and don't forget your CPU's microcode! :) true I had presumed you could get an oscilloscope and read the waves first for accuracy and security and certainly your osciloscope is home made any way, without any sophisticated chip... I think we missed the point, we must remember some people prefer his OS pure, with no comercial software, I'm not against this software, I use flash-plugin in my machine, no critical problems, they are working, this time we have a flash-plugin (again and now really works)... J. -- Driving behind lorries carrying hazardous chemicals makes me wish for a simpler life. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html -- If there's a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is. If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of. - George W. Bush 09/30/2003 Washington, DC Commenting on the CIA leak that he and Cheney later admitted they approved -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIDPmdkZz88chpJ2MRAtwOAKDurd2Qk423uAbaR9aYqkmG4P73ygCfdzWo CYds1Ka6Uqenu2bJm2CEJIY= =UwN+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different selves that are actively involved in a given relationship. Carl Sagan (Contact) Jaime Ochoa Malagón Integrated Technology Tel: (55) 52 54 26 10
Re: youtube
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:12:45PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Alex Samad: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:28:54AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Great idea. In about a year I might have finished reading the patch from linux 2.6.24-to linux-2.6.25 (bzipped: 9MB!). When that's done, I'll start reading the code of my bootloader and the compilers I am using. It's just too bad that everything's obsolete by the time I am finished. :) but fist you have to read the code for less or what ever you are using to view the code :) And before that, I have to read the code of the compiler that has been used for less. And then the code of the compiler that has been used to compile the first compiler, and then... Oh, and don't forget your CPU's microcode! :) true I had presumed you could get an oscilloscope and read the waves first for accuracy and security J. -- Driving behind lorries carrying hazardous chemicals makes me wish for a simpler life. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html -- If there's a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is. If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of. - George W. Bush 09/30/2003 Washington, DC Commenting on the CIA leak that he and Cheney later admitted they approved signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: youtube
If you're running Debian Testing amd64, with contribnon-free enabled, just install the flash plugin. If you're running Debian Stable amd64, get it from: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=flashsearchon=namessection=allsuite=etch-backports 2008/4/19, can comert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i can't watch videos on youtube cause of there isn't a flash player for 64 bit ports On adobes web site i read that if i can install 32-bit operating web browser i can watch the videos how can i install a 32-bit operating web browser or how can i watch videos on youtube etc??
Re: youtube
I'm using debian amd 64 testing what is the plugins name and how can i understand if contribnon-free enabled or not?? Thanks for your help 2008/4/19, El Amigo De La Playa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you're running Debian Testing amd64, with contribnon-free enabled, just install the flash plugin. If you're running Debian Stable amd64, get it from: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=flashsearchon=namessection=allsuite=etch-backports 2008/4/19, can comert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i can't watch videos on youtube cause of there isn't a flash player for 64 bit ports On adobes web site i read that if i can install 32-bit operating web browser i can watch the videos how can i install a 32-bit operating web browser or how can i watch videos on youtube etc??
Re: youtube
The repos you are using are listed in the file /etp/apt/sources.list You can edit this files with your favorite text editor. In the file you find entries like this: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free As you can see I am using unstable (sid) not testing. Also there are the word main, contrib and non-free. So for this repo I have enabled main, contrib and non-free. Just append contrib and non-free if you want to access them. I think the plugin is named ''flashplugin-nonfree''. Cheers, Wolfgang On Saturday 19 April 2008 16:59:12 can comert wrote: I'm using debian amd 64 testing what is the plugins name and how can i understand if contribnon-free enabled or not?? Thanks for your help 2008/4/19, El Amigo De La Playa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you're running Debian Testing amd64, with contribnon-free enabled, just install the flash plugin. If you're running Debian Stable amd64, get it from: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=flashsearchon=namessection=a llsuite=etch-backports 2008/4/19, can comert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i can't watch videos on youtube cause of there isn't a flash player for 64 bit ports On adobes web site i read that if i can install 32-bit operating web browser i can watch the videos how can i install a 32-bit operating web browser or how can i watch videos on youtube etc?? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: youtube
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, can comert wrote: i can't watch videos on youtube cause of there isn't a flash player for 64 bit ports On adobes web site i read that if i can install 32-bit operating web browser i can watch the videos how can i install a 32-bit operating web browser or how can i watch videos on youtube etc?? I use youtube-dl (available in main) to download the videos from the youtube pages then use a media player (kaffeine and mplayer both work) to watch them. Hope this helps Later Lee signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Ananda Samaddar wrote: You might want to wait for the next release of Gnash which is coming along nicely and will support flash videos from popular sites like Youtube, Myspace etc. It should be out in the next few months and is entirely free software as well. Well, in those next few months he might still want to use something which works, while waiting for gnash, and then switch to gnash as soon as it works well enough... A pragmatic approach to OSS is usually sensible: as far as you can, use free (as in free speech) software, if/when you can't, do what you can to promote the development of suitable free software but, in the meanwhile, use what is available to do the job. Nspluginwrapper and ndiswrapper are good surrogates, while waiting for the real thing. Bye Giacomo -- _ Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 _ When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are (Freddy Mercury) _ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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There is libswfdec, also free software. If all you want or need flash for is to view YouTube or Google Videos libswfdec and Gnash are a fine replacement for flash. It's when you come to the sites that think complete flash design with the latest codec is the best possible way to wow the customer that you need flash 9. I'd rather avoid those sites, myself. On 4/19/07, Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Ananda Samaddar wrote: You might want to wait for the next release of Gnash which is coming along nicely and will support flash videos from popular sites like Youtube, Myspace etc. It should be out in the next few months and is entirely free software as well. Well, in those next few months he might still want to use something which works, while waiting for gnash, and then switch to gnash as soon as it works well enough... A pragmatic approach to OSS is usually sensible: as far as you can, use free (as in free speech) software, if/when you can't, do what you can to promote the development of suitable free software but, in the meanwhile, use what is available to do the job. Nspluginwrapper and ndiswrapper are good surrogates, while waiting for the real thing. Bye Giacomo -- _ Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 _ When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are (Freddy Mercury) _ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Robert Isaac wrote: There is libswfdec, also free software. If all you want or need flash for is to view YouTube or Google Videos libswfdec and Gnash are a fine replacement for flash. It's when you come to the sites that think complete flash design with the latest codec is the best possible way to wow the customer that you need flash 9. I'd rather avoid those sites, myself. Which means that libswfdec and Gnash are good enough for you already. You see, you fit one of the categories of my pragmatic approach :) Somebody may _need_ to access some of those sites which do not work with free flash plugins (yet) though, and while waiting for them to work they have to use what works. Some notable examples I could cite are the websites of some airline companies whose flights I cannot avoid to take every now and then... Either I waste a lot of money going through their phone service or I use a non-completely-free plugin to buy the tickets via their web site. It's just a practical matter. I still would definitely _prefer_ to use a free alternative, and will switch to it as soon as available. In the meanwhile, I use what works for me. Bye Giacomo -- _ Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 _ When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are (Freddy Mercury) _ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 04:34:46PM +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote: I know cross-posting is frowned upon but I just discovered a useful item that you may like to try. http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2006/11/24/playing-youtube-videos-without-flash/ Also worth of notice is package youtube-dl. -- Lionel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.
On 10-Apr-2007 16:34.46 (BST), Ananda Samaddar wrote: I know cross-posting is frowned upon but I just discovered a useful item that you may like to try. http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2006/11/24/playing-youtube-videos-without-flash/ The above link is a Greasemonkey script that plays Youtube movies through MPlayer. You'll need MPlayer and the MPlayer Mozilla plugin as well as Greasemonkey installed to use the script. I'm using the unofficial Marilliat MPlayer on Etch AMD64 and it works fine for me! There's nspluginwrapper as well. I'm trying to work out if and how I can get it working on non-amd64 machines (I have a ppc machine as well as amd64, so I'd like to get it working on that as well). -- rob andrews :: pgp 0x01e00563 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 12:27, Rob Andrews wrote: There's nspluginwrapper as well. I'm trying to work out if and how I can get it working on non-amd64 machines (I have a ppc machine as well as amd64, so I'd like to get it working on that as well). You'll have a job, because nspluginwrapper is just a wrapper for x86 binaries which have been linked against 32-bit libraries. A PPC machine can't run x86 or amd64 binaries at all, never mind what libraries they're linked against -- and if you had the Source Code for the plugins in the first place, then you could just compile them for the target architecture with no need for any fancy wrapper code. -- AJS delta echo bravo six four at earthshod dot co dot uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.
On 18-Apr-2007 11:44.45 (BST), A J Stiles wrote: There's nspluginwrapper as well. I'm trying to work out if and how I can get it working on non-amd64 machines (I have a ppc machine as well as amd64, so I'd like to get it working on that as well). You'll have a job, because nspluginwrapper is just a wrapper for x86 binaries which have been linked against 32-bit libraries. A PPC machine can't run x86 or amd64 binaries at all, never mind what libraries they're linked against -- and if you had the Source Code for the plugins in the first place, then you could just compile them for the target architecture with no need for any fancy wrapper code. Yes, I am quite aware that powerpc machines cannot run x86/amd64 code :) However, nspluginwrapper uses qemu to emulate the plugin environment on architectures where the binary cannot be natively executed. This is noted in the features section on the homepage: * Run Linux/i386 plugins through QEMU on Linux/ppc platforms -- rob andrews :: pgp 0x01e00563 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:51:11 +0100 Rob Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18-Apr-2007 11:44.45 (BST), A J Stiles wrote: There's nspluginwrapper as well. I'm trying to work out if and how I can get it working on non-amd64 machines (I have a ppc machine as well as amd64, so I'd like to get it working on that as well). You'll have a job, because nspluginwrapper is just a wrapper for x86 binaries which have been linked against 32-bit libraries. A PPC machine can't run x86 or amd64 binaries at all, never mind what libraries they're linked against -- and if you had the Source Code for the plugins in the first place, then you could just compile them for the target architecture with no need for any fancy wrapper code. Yes, I am quite aware that powerpc machines cannot run x86/amd64 code :) However, nspluginwrapper uses qemu to emulate the plugin environment on architectures where the binary cannot be natively executed. This is noted in the features section on the homepage: * Run Linux/i386 plugins through QEMU on Linux/ppc platforms -- rob andrews :: pgp 0x01e00563 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might want to wait for the next release of Gnash which is coming along nicely and will support flash videos from popular sites like Youtube, Myspace etc. It should be out in the next few months and is entirely free software as well. Ananda -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.
Ananda Samaddar wrote: Hello all, I know cross-posting is frowned upon but I just discovered a useful item that you may like to try. http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2006/11/24/playing-youtube-videos-without-flash/ The above link is a Greasemonkey script that plays Youtube movies through MPlayer. You'll need MPlayer and the MPlayer Mozilla plugin as well as Greasemonkey installed to use the script. I'm using the unofficial Marilliat MPlayer on Etch AMD64 and it works fine for me! regards, Ananda Samaddar Thank you!!! -- Regards, Jimmy Registered Penguin #380263 Registered Linux Computer #279395 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
