Re: Replacement for raspPi
Hi. On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 08:11:43PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 7/9/21 22:46, Reco wrote: > > > Some will recall the discussion around raspberry adding a MS repo to > > > sources.list last year. > > I've "installed" fresh RaspiOS recently and they're still doing it. > > My vscode sources list reads ### Disabled by raspberrypi-sys-mods ### > Interesting . Perhaps this is because I have installed only CLI? I did "apt purge raspberrypi-sys-mods", mainly because that particular package betrayed me in the past by introducing vscode.list. And doing it the worst way possible - instead of providing the file as a part of the package, it was created by postinst script of raspberrypi-sys-mods. But, discussing RaspiOS is considered off-topic and inappropriate here, so that's my last contribution in this subthread. Reco
Re: Replacement for raspPi
On 7/9/21 22:46, Reco wrote: Some will recall the discussion around raspberry adding a MS repo to sources.list last year. I've "installed" fresh RaspiOS recently and they're still doing it. My vscode sources list reads ### Disabled by raspberrypi-sys-mods ### Interesting . Perhaps this is because I have installed only CLI? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: Replacement for raspPi
On 9/9/21 13:57, peter green wrote: Not even root has access. So you had a problem with sshfs permissions, rather than investigate said problem (e.g. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/59685/sshfs-mount-sudo-gets-permission-denied ) you chose to blame the Raspberry Pi. Well, I've used sshfs from vbox's to host many, many times, without an issue. I'll look at your suggestions next time I have RaspOS running. Later: Thankyou. That has allowed me to edit files, but the files are still owned by user pi. VERY odd -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: Replacement for raspPi
On 9/9/21 13:57, peter green wrote: Not even root has access. So you had a problem with sshfs permissions, rather than investigate said problem (e.g. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/59685/sshfs-mount-sudo-gets-permission-denied ) you chose to blame the Raspberry Pi. Well, I've used sshfs from vbox's to host many, many times, without an issue. I'll look at your suggestions next time I have RaspOS running. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: Replacement for raspPi
On 8/9/21 22:10, Mauricio Tavares wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 7:51 AM Keith Bainbridge wrote: Factor in cases, eMMC and so on as well, if you want them. A lot of the boards do not hve a custom made case and some of them will be non-standard shapes/sizes. It's amazing. The boards look reasonably priced, but when you add on the necessary bits, they often get to the price of a low end laptop. I have wondered a few times why I don't move that way. I know people who have bought (used) those Dell/Lenovo/Supermicro Mac Mini-sized computers for that very reason: at what price point you are using a SBC just for the sake of using a SBC when a Mini-sized Linux-running computer would be a more capable device at a similar price? Good idea. Thanks And part of why I am contemplating a low end laptop. Another consideration is that I can remove the monitor and keyboard from my overcrowded desk. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com
Re: Replacement for raspPi
On 07/09/2021 11:32, Keith Bainbridge wrote: G'day I've been following the recent thread Subject: Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B? I'm looking for suggestions for a new SBC, please. Ideally something more than 2M RAM. I see that a few a happy with Pine laptops. Does this translate to their SBC? Thanks Background. I've just set up a new SDCard with raspberryOS. Set myself up as a user, and set root passsword. When I sshfs to my laptop, the mount point AND all subdirectories are owned exclusively buy user pi. Not even root has access. So you had a problem with sshfs permissions, rather than investigate said problem (e.g. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/59685/sshfs-mount-sudo-gets-permission-denied ) you chose to blame the Raspberry Pi.
Re: Replacement for raspPi
On donderdag 9 september 2021 00:21:27 CEST Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > DRAT - I mistyped - the Rock64 and the RockPro64? - the Rock64 has 4G of > memory and a good selection of I/O, 1G Ethernet and the potential for eMMC > storage. The RockPro has even more. I'd suggest going for the RockPro64 instead of the Rock64. I have (several) Rock64's and several things don't work (as well) as one would expect. Hopefully some things can still be improved over time. Things seem better on the HW side with the RockPro64 and it's more powerful. Before buying f.e. some PCIe card, it's wise to first ask/check on the forum (f.e.) whether the device you want to buy will actually work properly. Several do, but not all of them. And you likely also want to buy some cooling device/case for it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Replacement for raspPi
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 09:32:52PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 15:35:35 + > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 08:32:14PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > > G'day > > > > > > > > I've been following the recent thread Subject: Re: Debian on Pine64 > > > > H64B? > > > > > > > > I'm looking for suggestions for a new SBC, please. Ideally something > > > > more than 2M RAM. I see that a few a happy with Pine laptops. Does > > > > this translate to their SBC? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > You'll have seen the pointer to 100+ SBCs. The problem with many of > > > them is that they are cut down to a price point rather than being > > > built to a quality standard. "Raspberry Pi-alike" GPIO pins don't > > > transfer to automagically b > > Good to know. I haven't ventured into GPIO in the 5 years I've been > working with the pi. I use it mainly for back up drives, and > occasional browsing while I'm in an on-line meet > > > > > > I'd single out Odroid as being very highly priced by comparison but > > > also very well built: the problem is that the boards take a while to > > > be fully supported on non-vendor kernel and in vanilla Debian - and by > > > that stage, the board may be out of production. > > > > > I'd prefer to stick to debian based. I keep reading the debian how to > set up network, but clearly I'm missing something somewhere as I > haven't gotten it working yet. Boots ok. I can't use a wire to > connect to the modem - it's too far awa > > > Pine's RockPi with 4G of memory seems to work quite well and be > > > relatively well supported. DRAT - I mistyped - the Rock64 and the RockPro64? - the Rock64 has 4G of memory and a good selection of I/O, 1G Ethernet and the potential for eMMC storage. The RockPro has even more. The other thing that's missing from the Raspberry Pi range is a good RTC - a real time clock is not just a nice to have. > > Thank you. As it happens I was looking at this the other night. > > > > > > > Factor in cases, eMMC and so on as well, if you want them. A lot of > > > the boards do not hve a custom made case and some of them will be > > > non-standard shapes/sizes. > > It's amazing. The boards look reasonably priced, but when you add on the > necessary bits, they often get to the price of a low end laptop. I have > wondered a few times why I don't move that way. > > > > > > > > All the very best, as ever, > > Very kind of you > > > > > > > Andy Cater > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best > > Keith Bainbridge > keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com >
Re: Replacement for raspPi
On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 7:51 AM Keith Bainbridge wrote: > >> > >>Factor in cases, eMMC and so on as well, if you want them. A lot of > >>the boards do not hve a custom made case and some of them will be > >>non-standard shapes/sizes. > > It's amazing. The boards look reasonably priced, but when you add on the > necessary bits, they often get to the price of a low end laptop. I have > wondered a few times why I don't move that way. > I know people who have bought (used) those Dell/Lenovo/Supermicro Mac Mini-sized computers for that very reason: at what price point you are using a SBC just for the sake of using a SBC when a Mini-sized Linux-running computer would be a more capable device at a similar price?
Re: Replacement for raspPi
On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 15:35:35 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 08:32:14PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: G'day I've been following the recent thread Subject: Re: Debian on Pine64 H64B? I'm looking for suggestions for a new SBC, please. Ideally something more than 2M RAM. I see that a few a happy with Pine laptops. Does this translate to their SBC? Thanks You'll have seen the pointer to 100+ SBCs. The problem with many of them is that they are cut down to a price point rather than being built to a quality standard. "Raspberry Pi-alike" GPIO pins don't transfer to automagically b Good to know. I haven't ventured into GPIO in the 5 years I've been working with the pi. I use it mainly for back up drives, and occasional browsing while I'm in an on-line meet I'd single out Odroid as being very highly priced by comparison but also very well built: the problem is that the boards take a while to be fully supported on non-vendor kernel and in vanilla Debian - and by that stage, the board may be out of production. I'd prefer to stick to debian based. I keep reading the debian how to set up network, but clearly I'm missing something somewhere as I haven't gotten it working yet. Boots ok. I can't use a wire to connect to the modem - it's too far awa Pine's RockPi with 4G of memory seems to work quite well and be relatively well supported. Thank you. As it happens I was looking at this the other night. Factor in cases, eMMC and so on as well, if you want them. A lot of the boards do not hve a custom made case and some of them will be non-standard shapes/sizes. It's amazing. The boards look reasonably priced, but when you add on the necessary bits, they often get to the price of a low end laptop. I have wondered a few times why I don't move that way. All the very best, as ever, Very kind of you Andy Cater All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com
Re: Replacement for raspPi
On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 15:46:22 +0300 Reco wrote: >> Hi. >> >>On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 08:32:14PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: >>> I'm looking for suggestions for a new SBC, please. Ideally something >>> more than 2M RAM. I see that a few a happy with Pine laptops. Does >>> this translate to their SBC? >> >>I'd suggest [1], but I'm unsure about the completeness of hardware >>support of the current Debian stable. >>Or [2], but given the current state of Mesa's panfrost it would be >>rough, and this SBC has its share of issues with built-in USB. >> Thanks for these suggestions. >>But without a specific requirement probably the best way is to direct >>you to the list like [3]. You can probably expect working UART, USB >>and Ethernet from the most of SBCs there. >> Looking through that list is daunting to say the least. But I've found a few candidates, which I'll weed out with the help of Andrew's words of wisdom. >> >>> Background. >>> I've just set up a new SDCard with raspberryOS. Set myself up as a >>> user, and set root passsword. When I sshfs to my laptop, the mount >>> point AND all subdirectories are owned exclusively buy user pi. >> >>IMO that's expected from fuse. I'm changing this to a new thread. >> >> >>> Some will recall the discussion around raspberry adding a MS repo to >>> sources.list last year. >> >>I've "installed" fresh RaspiOS recently and they're still doing it. >> I must check my server only set up. >>Reco >> >>[1] https://www.khadas.com/product-page/edge-v >>[2] https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-n2-with-4gbyte-ram-2/ >>[3] >>https://linuxgizmos.com/150-open-spec-community-backed-linux-sbcs-under-200/ >> Thanks for you suggestions. I started looking at about mid-night this morning, after a couple of very callenging cryptics. Not completed by a long shot. All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: Replacement for raspPi
On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 08:32:14PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > G'day > > I've been following the recent thread Subject: Re: Debian on Pine64 > H64B? > > I'm looking for suggestions for a new SBC, please. Ideally something > more than 2M RAM. I see that a few a happy with Pine laptops. Does this > translate to their SBC? > > Thanks > > Background. > I've just set up a new SDCard with raspberryOS. Set myself up as a > user, and set root passsword. When I sshfs to my laptop, the mount > point AND all subdirectories are owned exclusively buy user pi. Not > even root has access. So I'm out of raspberry as quick as possible. > I'm in the process of writing debian to a SDcard in the hope that that > will let me get on. > Some will recall the discussion around raspberry adding a MS repo to > sources.list last year. > You'll have seen the pointer to 100+ SBCs. The problem with many of them is that they are cut down to a price point rather than being built to a quality standard. "Raspberry Pi-alike" GPIO pins don't transfer to automagically being able to run an add on in the same way you would on a Raspberry Pi, for example, and some manufacturers appear to produce a large range of almost identical looking boards where you can't rely on them _actually being identical. I'd single out Odroid as being very highly priced by comparison but also very well built: the problem is that the boards take a while to be fully supported on non-vendor kernel and in vanilla Debian - and by that stage, the board may be out of production. Pine's RockPi with 4G of memory seems to work quite well and be relatively well supported. Factor in cases, eMMC and so on as well, if you want them. A lot of the boards do not hve a custom made case and some of them will be non-standard shapes/sizes. All the very best, as ever, Andy Cater > > > > > All the best > > Keith Bainbridge > keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com >
Re: Replacement for raspPi
Hi. On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 08:32:14PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > I'm looking for suggestions for a new SBC, please. Ideally something > more than 2M RAM. I see that a few a happy with Pine laptops. Does this > translate to their SBC? I'd suggest [1], but I'm unsure about the completeness of hardware support of the current Debian stable. Or [2], but given the current state of Mesa's panfrost it would be rough, and this SBC has its share of issues with built-in USB. But without a specific requirement probably the best way is to direct you to the list like [3]. You can probably expect working UART, USB and Ethernet from the most of SBCs there. > Background. > I've just set up a new SDCard with raspberryOS. Set myself up as a > user, and set root passsword. When I sshfs to my laptop, the mount > point AND all subdirectories are owned exclusively buy user pi. IMO that's expected from fuse. > Some will recall the discussion around raspberry adding a MS repo to > sources.list last year. I've "installed" fresh RaspiOS recently and they're still doing it. Reco [1] https://www.khadas.com/product-page/edge-v [2] https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-n2-with-4gbyte-ram-2/ [3] https://linuxgizmos.com/150-open-spec-community-backed-linux-sbcs-under-200/
