Re: ethernet detection failed

2003-11-16 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 04:37:52PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> Marcos Pinto wrote:
> > I have a Compaq Presario 3017US laptop...when using d-i, my network 
> > card, a Realtek RTL8139/810x, fails to be properly detected and 
> > configured.  I believe this card needs the 8139too module and the 
> > installer tries to load up the 8139 instead.  Anyone else have this 
> > problem?
> 
> Do you mean that it needs the 8139cp module? That would be for RTL8139C+
> There is no kernel module called just "8139".
> 
> It would help if you could send us the contents of /proc/pci and
> /proc/bus/pci/devices from your system.

Please tell also that it is an onboard or PCMCIA netwerk card.


Geert Stappers


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Re: [WOODY] Need sugestion for Floppy-Install

2003-11-16 Thread Mourad De Clerck
>I was thinking to make for each Floppy a Packages- and Release-File 
>and put all 280 Files in a Package which installs in /var/lib/apt/lists
>So no one must make the DJ after installing the BASE to register the 
>other 114 Floppys...

Man! Talk about painful.

Well, if you don't have the option of cd/net/plip (spp only)/...
install, and you can't add a second harddrive to those machines either
(no plugs free, no pci/isa slots), I would suggest you this: bring a
laptop and a usb/firewire harddrive enclosure, that way you can take out
the harddrive, and use your laptop to install everything (using an
image/debootstrap/whatever), and put it back. More reliable, and faster.
The only reason why this wouldn't work, would be if they'd use RLL/MFM
harddrives, but I doubt it since we're talking 386's here, right? Or if
you can't bring your own machine for some reason. 

Hope this helps.  

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Bug#221186: installation-reports: debian-installer beta1 (daily) - keymap broken

2003-11-16 Thread Bill Nugent
Package: installation-reports
Severity: Grave
Tags: sarge

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: Daily Build 15-Nov-2003 downloaded from 
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/daily/
uname -a: 
Date: 16-Nov-2003 22:18:00 -05:00
Method: 100MB CD image

Machine: Old Tyan Motherboard
Processor: Dual 333MHz Pentium II
Memory: 384MB
Root Device: SCSI /dev/sda
Root Size/partition table:
/dev/sda2 /boot  128MB
/dev/sda3 /  10GB
/dev/sda5 swp 1GB
Output of lspci:
I don't know dvorak keyboard so it is difficult to do anything...sigh.

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

linux bootkbd=qwerty/us  did not work - still came up with Dvorak which 
I do not know!!  Burying this as a boot argument makes it more 
difficult for beginners I have to imagine.  After mucking about for an 
hour or so I figured it out with most of the time spent having 
difficulty typing.

It would be nice if after selecting country there was a second selection 
for selecting keyboard layout.  

I am new to debian and I had to hunt around to find the email address to 
send this report to.  Perhaps it should be on the same web page as the 
report form?

xfs and jfs file system modules had errors loading so creating these 
file systems was not possible.

TIA,
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Bug#215205: latinoamerica keyobard

2003-11-16 Thread Johann Henriquez L.
hi,

just mi 0.02 cents 

america have 3 different types of keyboards: 

the US one, the spanish one, and the latinoamerican one... 

in XFree86 is:  us, es, la. 

RH, and Mandrake al least does this difference when refers to America in 
theirs installers. 

in Woody the "la" keyboard was not present and this, for all South/Center 
America was a dissapointment. 





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Re: Bug#220048: 220048:Cannot boot from CD

2003-11-16 Thread Miernik
On 2003-11-17, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> I'am afraid it is not that problem, as I can boot both ISOLINUX and 
>> SYSLINUX CD's correctly, but not beta-1 sarge-i386-netinst.
>
> Syslinux is the more robust of the two and was just asking for a test
> to make sure it does work.
>
> That the beta-1 isolinux does not work is strange and might need some
> debugging and auditing the chnages between woody and beta-1 isolinux
> sources.

The woody CD's I tried where SYSLINUX not ISOLINUX. The older 
sarge-i386-netinst that do work are ISOLINUX. And it looks like the 
same version (1.75) as the beta-1 which doesn't work.

> I don't believe its the cdrom. Would be real strange if the cd
> contents would affect cdrom capabilities. The problem is the
> respective bios of the system.

On the ASUS mainboard where it doesn't work there is a AWARD BIOS, and 
on the Sony notebook where it does work, there was a Phoenix BIOS.

Maybe we should just port LinuxBIOS to all possible mainboards, as 
non-free BIOS'es are crap, and are not DSFG free either.

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Re: Install-report

2003-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Uwe Dippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 05:33, Joey Hess wrote:
> > On the third try it asks me for the module 
> > parameters of floppy and tells me that modules are missing: e100, 
> > orinoco_pci, ide-mod, ide-probe-mod and ide-floppy
> 
> Which is pretty similar to mine here. As well as identifying the correct
> NIC but being unable to provide the module; be it e100 or 3c59x.
> Which is why I didn't really try to swamp you with all possible details.
> 
> Please keep asking if you need more !

Can you select some nic-extra-modules*.udeb package to be installed or
are all the net modules allready poulled in?

MfG
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Re: Bug#220048: 220048:Cannot boot from CD

2003-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Miernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 2003-11-16, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The first CD is isolinux based, all the other CDs in the set are
> > syslinux based.
> >
> > It would show if you can boot syslinux without problems.
> 
> I'am afraid it is not that problem, as I can boot both ISOLINUX and 
> SYSLINUX CD's correctly, but not beta-1 sarge-i386-netinst.

Syslinux is the more robust of the two and was just asking for a test
to make sure it does work.

That the beta-1 isolinux does not work is strange and might need some
debugging and auditing the chnages between woody and beta-1 isolinux
sources.

> I have the same problem in my SAMSUNG SC-148P CD-ROM connected to an 
> ASUS TX97-X mainboard.
> 
> The CD boots no problem in a Sony PCGA-CD5 PCMCIA CD-ROM drive and in 
> a Sony PCGA-CRWD1 IEEE 1394 CD-RW/DVD-ROM drives (both connected to a 
> Sony PCG-C1MV notebook). 

I don't believe its the cdrom. Would be real strange if the cd
contents would affect cdrom capabilities. The problem is the
respective bios of the system.

MfG
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Bug#221031: debian-installer: Accept udebs from local mirror with file: URL

2003-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Daniel Schepler wrote:
> > It seems the current debian-installer build process completely ignores
> > entries with file: in /etc/apt/sources.list.  It would be nice if it
> > were possible to build the package using a local mirror without having
> > to set up a local web server just for this, or search through it
> > manually for udebs to put in localudebs.
> 
> You can do that by editing sources.list.local (its name may have just
> changed to sources.list.udeb.local or something like that in CVS), and
> add your own file:// uris.
> 
> The reason the automatic sources.list generation ignores file:// is
> because it tries to find standard debian mirrors which are likely to
> work and have the debian-installer udebs directory on them. It's a lot
> harder for the automated constructor to tell if a file:// is likely to
> be a full mirror, rather than a partial mirror, or a local repository,
> and if it messes up I get FTBFS reports, so it's best to keep it
> conservative in what it accepts. But you can easily override the
> generated sources.list with the .local one.

I think partial file mirrors are as common as partial
ftp/http/rsh/ssh/copy mirrors so singeling file urls out is strange.

I changes the sources.list generation to allow file: urls. On the
other hand I added an explaining message when apt-get update fails:

--
Failed to update the Packages file. This usually means of of two things:

A) $LIST does not contain a vaild repository.
   You can override the generates sources.list.$TYPE
   with sources.list.$TYPE.local if you haven't done so yet.

B) The repository in $LIST is not reachable.
   If you are not working online use 'export ONLINE=n' to skip updating
   the Packages files. Beware that this can result in images with
   out-of-date packages and should be used for private developement only.
--

I hope thats clear enough to prevent FTBFS bugs due to partial
mirrors.

MfG
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Re: Install-report

2003-11-16 Thread Uwe Dippel
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 05:33, Joey Hess wrote:
 
> To pick one problem, I cannot help you with whatever problem the
> installer had with using your network device unless you say what that
> device is.

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and
Memory Controller Hub (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM/CAM PCI Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BAM IDE U100 (rev 03)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub  (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 Go]
(rev b2)
02:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i
PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 10)
02:06.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c556 Hurricane CardBus
(rev 10)
02:06.1 Communication controller: 3Com Corporation Mini PCI 56k Winmodem
(rev 10)
02:0f.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus
Controller
02:0f.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4451 PC card Cardbus
Controller
02:0f.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCI4451 IEEE-1394
Controller

Actually, the 3c59x would be the one needed.

On the running install (RH7.3) /etc/modules.conf looks like:

alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
alias eth0 3c59x
alias usb-controller usb-uhci
alias sound-slot-0 maestro3
post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L
>/dev/null 2>&1 || :
pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S
>/dev/null 2>&1 || :
alias char-major-195 nvidia

Actually, the problem here looks very similar to the four currently
indicated as 'critical'. 
221003: 

> On the third try it asks me for the module 
> parameters of floppy and tells me that modules are missing: e100, 
> orinoco_pci, ide-mod, ide-probe-mod and ide-floppy

Which is pretty similar to mine here. As well as identifying the correct
NIC but being unable to provide the module; be it e100 or 3c59x.
Which is why I didn't really try to swamp you with all possible details.

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Bug#221140: autopartkit: One template hard to understand

2003-11-16 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 11:22:01PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
>> The new template shown when no disk has been detected has two problems:
> Another error in this package templates
> 
> "less then 1 minutes" should be "less thAn 1 minute"

Both errors fixed in CVS, thanks.

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Re: cvs access to DDs

2003-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Konstantinos Margaritis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>   I just finished the translation of all of the current .po files to 
> the Greek language. Do I just commit them to the cvs archive, send 
> them over to someone else or sth else? 
> Also, the encoding of all .po files is in UTF-8, if there is a problem 
> with that, I could translate these to ISO-8859-7. 
> Finally, can anyone point me to a doc/readme about how to build 
> the .iso image myself and do some testing?
> 
> Thanks.

The official images are build using debian-cd.

But [here I go again :] there is a second branch "mrvn" that will
build cd images directly. Its not allways completly in sync with the
main branch but I'm merging the agreed upon parts back in now.

MfG
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Re: Pruning Verbosity

2003-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Quoting Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > Thats exim4-config after the first reboot, right?
> > 
> > Has nothing to do with d-i, bug the maintainer about it.
> 
> I think I have to disagree here
> 
> As exim4 config is called before the user gets his/her first login
> prompt, it definitely belongs to d-i
> 
> This is a similar problem to the "bug" report I just made for shadow.
> 
> The difference only exist for Debian junkies like us. From a user
> point of view, all packages which are configured before the user gets
> a first prompt are part of the "installer".

What I ment is that the right package to report this to is exim4 or
base-install. Of cause it affects the installability of debian but it
just as well affects people updating to exim4 or changing from some
other mta to exim4.

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Bug#221167: installation-reports: Install from SCSI (Symbios Logic 53c875) CDROM failed

2003-11-16 Thread Ed Blackman
Package: installation-reports
Version: beta-1
Severity: critical

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 2003/11/16, 
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta-1/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso
uname -a: n/a
Date: 2003/11/16 17:20 EST
Method: Attempted to install from 50MB CD image.  Booted from CD via SCSI BIOS

Machine: homebuilt whitebox
Processor: Intel PII (Deschutes) 375
Memory: 512MB
Root Device: n/a (didn't get that far)
Root Size/partition table: n/a (didn't get that far)
Output of lspci: (from a boot of RH 7.2, since I couldn't get installed)
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge (rev 03)
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:02.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:02.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:02.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:0d.0 SCSI storage controller: Symbios Logic Inc. (formerly NCR) 53c875 (rev 03)
00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 
02)00:0f.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc.: Unknown device 
4d69 (rev 02)
00:10.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc.: Unknown device 4d69 
(rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)


Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [E]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:
Booted from SCSI CD and selected the installation langauge.  The hardware
detection ran, but couldn't find the CD.  I attempted to use manual 
configuration, but didn't see an appropriate option.

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Re: cvs access to DDs

2003-11-16 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
On Monday 17 November 2003 00:52, Thorsten Sauter wrote:

> please commit them, but keep debian/changelog up-to-date.

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Re: Bug#220048: 220048:Cannot boot from CD

2003-11-16 Thread Miernik
On 2003-11-16, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The first CD is isolinux based, all the other CDs in the set are
> syslinux based.
>
> It would show if you can boot syslinux without problems.

I'am afraid it is not that problem, as I can boot both ISOLINUX and 
SYSLINUX CD's correctly, but not beta-1 sarge-i386-netinst.

I have the same problem in my SAMSUNG SC-148P CD-ROM connected to an 
ASUS TX97-X mainboard.

The CD boots no problem in a Sony PCGA-CD5 PCMCIA CD-ROM drive and in 
a Sony PCGA-CRWD1 IEEE 1394 CD-RW/DVD-ROM drives (both connected to a 
Sony PCG-C1MV notebook). 

Bug#220936 and 
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.boot/16704

Also other people: 
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/116585
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/116640

The sarge-i386-netinst snapshots 20030817 and 20030928 booted 
correctly. Both where ISOLINUX 1.75. I have also tried CD 1 and 2 from 
an old Debian GNU/Linux 2.3 "Woody" - fsn.hu's i386 Binary-* (20010524). 
These where both SYSLINUX 1.48 1999-09-26 and also boot correctly in 
all my CD-ROM drives.

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Bug#201191: partconf: mkfs should indicate progress

2003-11-16 Thread Thorsten Sauter
* Steinar H. Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-16 19:17]:
| Did we get anywhere on this? I'd vote in favour of rewriting partconf using
| libparted for the file system generation, but if people disagree I could
| probably write a simple progress bar. (In that case, do we want to try to
| grok the mkfs output for a few known filesystems, or not?)

If you plan to rewrite partconf using libparted, please include a way to
extend partconf with filesystems, which are not supported by libparted.

We need an easy way to create own installiers with xfs or jfs included.
Maybe you can write a simple progressbar for those filesystems.

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Re: [cdebconf] New EXTERNAL command (was Re: Slow redraws in the debootstrap stage)

2003-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 12:54:15PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> [...]
> > > I believe that all we need is an EXTERNAL cdebconf command, which
> > > runs its arguments on another console and waits for its child to
> > > finish.  The di-utils-shell could then simply become
> > >   #! /bin/sh
> > >   . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
> > >   db_external /bin/sh
> > 
> > I think this might be a good idea, but it should just tear down the
> > current debconf UI (if necessary, not for X), then run the program and
> > then set up the UI again.
> 
> Implemented in the cdebconf_external branch, tested with text and newt
> frontends.  Enjoy ;)

Cool, someone should update di-utils-shell and I suppose partitioner to
use this. Would myself but real life is intervening right now.

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Re: cvs access to DDs

2003-11-16 Thread Thorsten Sauter
* Konstantinos Margaritis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-16 22:24]:
| Hi,
|   I just finished the translation of all of the current .po files to 
| the Greek language. Do I just commit them to the cvs archive, send 
| them over to someone else or sth else? 
| Also, the encoding of all .po files is in UTF-8, if there is a problem 
| with that, I could translate these to ISO-8859-7. 
| Finally, can anyone point me to a doc/readme about how to build 
| the .iso image myself and do some testing?

please commit them, but keep debian/changelog up-to-date.


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Re: [PATCH] Fix base-installer FTBFS

2003-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
Geert Stappers wrote:
> Using a branch for freeze and HEAD for HEAD, sounds very reasonable to me.
> I even like "sarge" as a name for the branch.

Not to me. It's adding a roadblock in front of anyone who wants to work
on the sarge release of the installer, and making things easier for
anyone who wants to do work that will *not* help the sarge release of
the installer. At the moment I prefer to invert that, encouraging work
on the sarge version of the installer, discouraging accidental commits
to the wrong branch by casual committers (think translators) and not going
out of the way to make things easier for changes that will not benefit
sarge.

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Re: [PATCH] Fix base-installer FTBFS

2003-11-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 10:15:06PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Thiemo Seufer wrote:
> > > This can never work. It would effectively mean to stop further development
> > > of d-i over the lifetime of sarge, since there has to be a "critical fixes
> > > only" source tree for the stable release.
> > > 
> > > I strongly recommend to create a "sarge" branch. This leaves HEAD unimpeded
> > > and allows stricter control over the release branch. Otherwise you'll have
> > > to scare off your co-developers all the time from doing what they like
> > > most: Implementing shiny new features.
> > 
> > Shiny features can go in a shiney features branch. There is no need at
> > all for that branch to be HEAD. Anyway, the freeze is only here to
> > prevent changes to core components that can break everything else.
> 
> Using a branch for freeze and HEAD for HEAD, sounds very reasonable to me.
> I even like "sarge" as a name for the branch.
> 
> Is the build system aware of a branch?
> Or is the probleem that the build scripts all use HEAD?

It's surely not a problem to append an "-r sarge" option to the "cvs co"
command. :-)


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Processed: Re: Bug#220515: debian installer

2003-11-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> reassign 220515 xfree86
Bug#220515: debian installer
Bug reassigned from package `installation-reports' to `xfree86'.

> thanks
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Re: cvs access to DDs

2003-11-16 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
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[Fwd'ing to d-boot]

On Monday 17 November 2003 00:10, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 21:24, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote:
> > Hi,
> >   I just finished the translation of all of the current .po files
> > to the Greek language. Do I just commit them to the cvs archive,
> > send them over to someone else or sth else?
> > Also, the encoding of all .po files is in UTF-8, if there is a
> > problem with that, I could translate these to ISO-8859-7.
> > Finally, can anyone point me to a doc/readme about how to build
> > the .iso image myself and do some testing?
>
> You should be able to get CVS access (someone else on the list who
> can grant it will answer).
> Anyway, post the translations to the list and they will be
> committed. (This is the best idea for the first few times).

Ok, this does seem like a good idea, I would not want to break 
something by accident. I attach a tarball with all the translations. 
Please, let me know when they are included in the archive.
I also attach a tiny patch to the tools/languagechooser/
languagelist.l10n file.

Thanks.

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PS2. Apparently I do have access to the cvs archive, but I prefer 
doing this the right way.

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debian-installer-greek.tgz
Description: application/tgz
Index: languagelist.l10n
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools/languagechooser/languagelist.l10n,v
retrieving revision 1.32
diff -u -b -p -r1.32 languagelist.l10n
--- languagelist.l10n	11 Nov 2003 05:41:02 -	1.32
+++ languagelist.l10n	16 Nov 2003 22:30:52 -
@@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ Galician: Escolla isto para seguir en ga
 German (Germany): Dies auswählen um auf Deutsch fortzufahren (Deutschland)
 German (Belgium): Dies auswählen um auf Deutsch fortzufahren (Belgien)
 German (Switzerland): Dies auswählen um auf Deutsch fortzufahren (Schweiz)
-Greek: Επιλέξτε αυτό για να συνεχίσετε στα Ελληνικά
+Greek: Επιλέξτε εδώ για να συνεχίσετε στα Ελληνικά
 Hebrew: Choose this to proceed in Hebrew
 Hungarian: A magyart választottad.  Nyomd meg az Entert a folytatáshoz
 Irish: Tóg seo a lean as Gaeilge


Bug#221140: autopartkit: One template hard to understand

2003-11-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Package: autopartkit
> Severity: normal
> Tags: patch
> 
> The new template shown when no disk has been detected has two problems:

Another error in this package templates

"less then 1 minutes" should be "less thAn 1 minute"




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Bug#220515: debian installer

2003-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
reassign 220515 xfree86
thanks

Liam Healy wrote:
> Comments/Problems:
> Harware autodetect is a very welcome feature.  Unfortunately,
> autodetect of my video card (S3) apparently didn't work, or Xfree
> configuration didn't see it, I had to enter it by hand.

Thanks for your install report.

Since it seems like you had no problem with the base debian install,
which is mostly what debian-installer is concerned with, I am
reassigning this entire install report to the X package (and
incrementing the please_support_xfs counter..).

Debian's X maintainer will probably want some more information about
your video card. 

(PS to Branden, I think read-edid and mdetect do get installed properly
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Bug#220282: partconf: should apt-install userspace tools for created filesystem

2003-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
Sebastian Ley wrote:
> Am So, den 16.11.2003 schrieb Steinar H. Gunderson um 18:24:
> 
> > For reiserfs we have progsreiserfs and reiserfsprogs (yes, two different
> > packages with different maintainers), for xfs we have xfsprogs, for ext2 and
> > ext3 we have e2fsprogs, for jfs jfsutils etc.. Should we simply make a table
> > of some sort, or should we rely on Provides: for this?
> 
> I would like better a solution which fits better with modularity.
> 
> What about a private debconf question, which holds a comma separated
> list of files to apt-install. This template would come with the
> userspace-tools udeb and partconf would apt-install the packages in
> question if corresponding filesystems are created.

I don't understand this pull toward using debconf questions for things
that the filesystem can do and that do not involve user interaction or
overriding. Just have any udeb that provides a mkfs.* also provide a
/usr/share/fs-tools/ that lists the names of packages to install
for that filesystem type. Or any similar approach.

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Bug#221031: debian-installer: Accept udebs from local mirror with file: URL

2003-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
Daniel Schepler wrote:
> It seems the current debian-installer build process completely ignores
> entries with file: in /etc/apt/sources.list.  It would be nice if it
> were possible to build the package using a local mirror without having
> to set up a local web server just for this, or search through it
> manually for udebs to put in localudebs.

You can do that by editing sources.list.local (its name may have just
changed to sources.list.udeb.local or something like that in CVS), and
add your own file:// uris.

The reason the automatic sources.list generation ignores file:// is
because it tries to find standard debian mirrors which are likely to
work and have the debian-installer udebs directory on them. It's a lot
harder for the automated constructor to tell if a file:// is likely to
be a full mirror, rather than a partial mirror, or a local repository,
and if it messes up I get FTBFS reports, so it's best to keep it
conservative in what it accepts. But you can easily override the
generated sources.list with the .local one.

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Re: Pruning Verbosity

2003-11-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Thats exim4-config after the first reboot, right?
> 
> Has nothing to do with d-i, bug the maintainer about it.

I think I have to disagree here

As exim4 config is called before the user gets his/her first login
prompt, it definitely belongs to d-i

This is a similar problem to the "bug" report I just made for shadow.

The difference only exist for Debian junkies like us. From a user
point of view, all packages which are configured before the user gets
a first prompt are part of the "installer".




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Re: Netinst feedback

2003-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
Steven N. Hirsch wrote:
> o Even though I had specified a small /boot partition during disk
> partitioning, Grub was incorrectly setting root to (hd1,1), which is my /
> partition.  Edited command line from grub startup, then fixed
> /boot/grub/menu.lst accordingly.

I think we have several reports of the grub installation getting this
wrong, that is one of the reasons grub was not the default boot loader
for the beta release. I assume you used a recent daily build and not the
beta.

> o The installer created /usr/X11R6/bin with 0700 permissions, which neatly 
> prevented a non-root user from running anything X-related.  Took quite a 
> while to figure out what was going on.  A simple chmod fixed it.

What part of the installer? I don't think d-i installs anything X
related, that is deferred until after the reboot. It is probably some
broken package, it would be useful if you could track down which one and
file a bug report. It will be the first package that was installed that
created that directory, most likely.

> o The base system does not probe for IDE devices, rendering the VMware 
> CD-ROM device inaccessible.  I had to manually modprobe ide-detect after 
> booting.  I'm unfamiliar with module configuration under Debian, so I'm 
> not sure where to request that this be loaded on a persistent basis.

Known problem, and I'm not sure which package to pass the buck on to either
unfortunatly.

> o User KDE session cannot produce sound unless permissions for 
> /dev/sequencer and /dev/dsp are changed to 0777.  This also begs the 
> question of why a GNU/Debian installer chooses KDE as the default (I 
> didn't ask for it, and expected Gnome).

The proper way to get sound working for a user is to add that user to
the audio group. Unless you don't care of course.

Debian is desktop environment agnostic, and installs both.

> o The default X display driver for VMware guests cannot properly render 
> antialiased fonts, e.g. the main menubar popup shows all entries blank 
> until the mouse is moved over them.  Installing the latest VMware X driver 
> from the VMware tools package fixed this, although their installation 
> script hosed X completely until I renamed the original (which VMware 
> modifies to XF86Config-4.BeforeVmware) back to XF86Config-4.  This is 
> certainly not a Debian issue, but it would be helpful to include a current 
> display driver by default.

I suggest you send in a bug report on the xfree86 package, or post to
the debian-x mailing list.

> o Line drawing characters do not seem available to 'mc' when run in 
> konsole.  Works fine from an xterm or rxvt window.  I've never seem this 
> in other KDE environments.

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Re: can't choose packages sarge installer daily build

2003-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
Sebastian Ley wrote:
> Debian-Installer only installes the bare minimum, called the
> base-system. It consists of the packages on which the developers agree
> that every Debian system must have to be functioning.
> 
> It seems that base has grown a bit since woody, so I'm sorry it does not
> fit onto your hard disk anymore. I suppose there is not much you can do
> about it.

It might help if we didn't keep a fairly useless copy of every .deb used
to install the base system in /var/cache/apt/archives. Intelligent use
of disk space could at least delete debs as they were installed, or
better, only download and install them one at a time.

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Re: ethernet detection failed

2003-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
Marcos Pinto wrote:
> I have a Compaq Presario 3017US laptop...when using d-i, my network 
> card, a Realtek RTL8139/810x, fails to be properly detected and 
> configured.  I believe this card needs the 8139too module and the 
> installer tries to load up the 8139 instead.  Anyone else have this 
> problem?

Do you mean that it needs the 8139cp module? That would be for RTL8139C+
There is no kernel module called just "8139".

It would help if you could send us the contents of /proc/pci and
/proc/bus/pci/devices from your system.

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Re: Install-report

2003-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
Uwe Dippel wrote:
> Configure network HW:   [E]

> Comment: Really frustrated. Had before installed OpenBSD from a single
> floppy, network install, without problem.
> Now, from > 110 MB the basic modules are reported missing. Puuh.
> Eh, by the way, I'm not clear about that ide-floppy thingy. There is no
> ide-floppy here; just a normal 1.44.
> 
> Looking *really* forward to a possible install. Woody doesn't either.
> Random hangs, well-know, that DELL-BIOS problem. Here noapic and
> video=vga16:off didn't help at all.
> Was hoping the lesson had been learned and I could install testing here
> (or upgrade to Sid ?)
> 
> Keep the good work (Debian) up !

To pick one problem, I cannot help you with whatever problem the
installer had with using your network device unless you say what that
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Re: [PATCH] Fix base-installer FTBFS

2003-11-16 Thread Geert Stappers
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 10:15:06PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> Thiemo Seufer wrote:
> > This can never work. It would effectively mean to stop further development
> > of d-i over the lifetime of sarge, since there has to be a "critical fixes
> > only" source tree for the stable release.
> > 
> > I strongly recommend to create a "sarge" branch. This leaves HEAD unimpeded
> > and allows stricter control over the release branch. Otherwise you'll have
> > to scare off your co-developers all the time from doing what they like
> > most: Implementing shiny new features.
> 
> Shiny features can go in a shiney features branch. There is no need at
> all for that branch to be HEAD. Anyway, the freeze is only here to
> prevent changes to core components that can break everything else.

Using a branch for freeze and HEAD for HEAD, sounds very reasonable to me.
I even like "sarge" as a name for the branch.

Is the build system aware of a branch?
Or is the probleem that the build scripts all use HEAD?

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Bug#220868: Patch to implement a CLEARSEEN command

2003-11-16 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 06:39:43PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The included (untested) patch implements a new CLEARSEEN command, which
> should be called right before the module aborts. I don't really like adding
> new debconf commands all the time, so I'm not committing it before somebody
> else acks me on this :-)

The problem with partconf may be solved by RESETting partconf/partitions
when its value is Abort.

Instead of adding a new command, we may add an optional ABORT argument to
the STOP command to tell cdebconf not to store seen questions.
But I am quite certain that this whole stuff is a bad idea, how to abort
and thus go back to main-menu should be handled directly by cdebconf,
and not by config scripts.

Denis


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cvs access to DDs

2003-11-16 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
Hi,
  I just finished the translation of all of the current .po files to 
the Greek language. Do I just commit them to the cvs archive, send 
them over to someone else or sth else? 
Also, the encoding of all .po files is in UTF-8, if there is a problem 
with that, I could translate these to ISO-8859-7. 
Finally, can anyone point me to a doc/readme about how to build 
the .iso image myself and do some testing?

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Re: Second stage console problem

2003-11-16 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 06:21, Miroslav Kure wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 05:05:43PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Kenshi Muto wrote:
> > > How do you think about following flowchart, Joey?
> > > 
> > >   n
> > > check tty -> serial. 2nd stage as current LANG (*1)
> > >   | y
> > >   v   y
> > > check fb0(*2) -> run bogl-term as LANG(*3)
> > >   | n
> > >   v y
> > > acceptable LANG without bogl-bterm?(*4) -> 2nd stage as LANG
> > >   | n
> > >   v
> > > cancel LANG (use English)
> > >   |
> > >   v
> > > 2nd stage
> > > 
> > > *1: If you want to install in serial console/non-FB machine, you can
> > > use only English installer, it means LANG of 2nd stage is always
> > > English (C).
> > > *2: Current termwrap looks don't implement yet.
> > > *3: Current termwrap looks don't implement yet.
> > > *4: Current termwrap looks implement partly?  I think this needs
> > > various people's help.
> > 
> > Yep, that sounds right.
> 
> Yet there is the issue with latin-* languages, who don't need
> special terminal, but only need to set correct font in the
> console-tools package.
> E.g. accented characters in iso-8859-2 (Czech, Slovak, maybe
> others) won't display correctly until you set lat2 console font,
> which makes base-config almost unreadable.
> 
> Regards,
> Miroslav Kure

Ok,

Two things to take note of:

(1) I'm implementing a default font for linux console in console-data
that will provide Latin, Hebrew, Cyrillic. I can detect and change that
based on default locale if necessary - setting eg an iso02 based one.

However, there is a catch: if you set a vesa screen mode, e.g. to set a
font or console screen size, then setting a font will undo that. So I
have to detect a vesa mode and _not_ set font in that case, but leave it
to the user. I'm detecting VESA modes by looking for "vga=" on
/proc/cmdline; if a framebuffer is set by default here, the font will
not be set. 
(This need not be a problem for base-config, as it can use bogl and load
a framebuffer after boot. But help will be needed by various arch people
to debug this).

(2) Important: There is a bug in the linux kernel API that makes
combining characters (accents) at the keyboard effectively impossible in
UTF-8 mode: (the API only allows a _char_ for the result of a diacritic
-type key: hence compose chars don't work properly in UTF-8 modes).
I don't think bogl does anything smart about this; it means that
_at_the_console_ entering accents in UTF-8 locales is broken.

While this does not affect d-i at the moment (no dialogs that want
arbitrary text), it means most users will not want UTF-8 locales on the
console.


Regards,
Alastair McKinstry
> 


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Packaging extra contnets for the CDs or not?

2003-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi,

I'm still struggeling with the image creation for the CDs, namely how
to specify and how to get the extra files like docs, bootloader,
icons, batch files, 

Should I build a series of skeleton-*.udeb containing all the extra
files that we don't build from source?

Currently they are copied from the debian archive which requires the
builder to be online and redownloads them for each build. That is
rather ugly, fragile if the files are updates and hard to update since
ftpmaster has to move the files manually each time.

Currently the following files come to mind:

i386: ftp.de.debian.org:/debian/tools:
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   728 Sep 12  2002 README
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp 10290 Nov 24  2001 diskio.zip
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp162110 Aug 25  1998 fips20.zip
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp119146 Aug 20  1993 gzip124.exe
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp105410 Jan 21  1997 lodlin16.zip
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp 70352 Sep  7  2002 md5sum-w32.zip
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp 11157 Jan 14  1993 rawrite1.zip
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp 15655 Apr 28  1997 rawrite2.zip
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp261448 Nov 24  2001 rwwrtwin.zip
drwxr-xr-x   2 ftp  ftp  4096 Sep 12  2002 src
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp236134 Sep 10  1994 unz512x3.exe

linux.bat (linux.pif)

m68k: ftp.de.debian.org:/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-m68k/current/
drwxr-xr-x   3 ftp  ftp  4096 May 17  2002 amiga
drwxr-xr-x   3 ftp  ftp  4096 May 17  2002 atari
drwxr-xr-x   4 ftp  ftp  4096 May 21  2002 bvme6000
drwxr-xr-x   3 ftp  ftp  4096 May 17  2002 mac
drwxr-xr-x   3 ftp  ftp  4096 May 17  2002 mvme16x

alpha: ftp.de.debian.org:/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-alpha/current/MILO/
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp565744 May 18  2002 alcor
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp565872 May 18  2002 avanti
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp568096 May 18  2002 book1
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp569872 May 18  2002 cabriolet
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp570208 May 18  2002 eb164
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp565432 May 18  2002 eb64p
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp566648 May 18  2002 eb66
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp570920 May 18  2002 eb66p
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp 18944 May 18  2002 ldmilo.exe
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp  7168 May 18  2002 linload.exe
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp569416 May 18  2002 lx164
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp567920 May 18  2002 miata
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp565976 May 18  2002 mikasa
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_alcor.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_avanti.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_book1.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_cabriolet.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_eb164.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_eb64p.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_eb66.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_eb66p.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_lx164.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_miata.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_mikasa.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_noname.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_p2k.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_pc164.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_ruffian.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_sx164.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_takara.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_xl.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp   1474560 May 18  2002 milo_xlt.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp568080 May 18  2002 noname
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp566200 May 18  2002 p2k
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp597296 May 18  2002 pc164
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp593576 May 18  2002 ruffian
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp568192 May 18  2002 sx164
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp566256 May 18  2002 takara
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp565888 May 18  2002 xl
-rw-r--r--   1 ftp  ftp592968 May 18  2002 xlt

powerpc:
miboot?

all: docs, docs, docs


So what to do with them?

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Re: DSL netinstall

2003-11-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 16, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 >The configurator should help the user to choose the right firmware too
 >where needed and distributable.
Again, this is only relevant for the USB modem case and so is not
needed for d-i.

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Re: DSL netinstall

2003-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi,

in case one of you can come up with a configurator deb package that
doesn't need manual editing I'm willing to make a udeb out of it In
case you don't want to become familiar with d-i first.

The configurator should help the user to choose the right firmware too
where needed and distributable.

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Bug#221140: autopartkit: One template hard to understand

2003-11-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Package: autopartkit
Severity: normal
Tags: patch

The new template shown when no disk has been detected has two problems:

-it does not follow the now commonly used format (short desc==prompt, thus
ends with a colon)

-it is hard to understand...:-)

The attached patch proposes a rewrite


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux mykerinos 2.4.22 #2 Mon Sep 29 15:12:10 CEST 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (ignored: LC_ALL set to fr_FR.UTF-8)

--- templates.ori   2003-11-16 18:44:29.0 +0100
+++ templates   2003-11-16 18:45:27.0 +0100
@@ -14,8 +14,9 @@
 
 Template: autopartkit/device_name
 Type: string
-_Description: Write device path to disk.
- No disk was automatically detected.  Please specify it manually.
+_Description: Device file for the disk:
+ No disk was automatically detected.  Please enter here the path
+ to the device file for the disk you want to partition.
 
 Template: autopartkit/confirm
 Type: boolean


Bug#220282: partconf: should apt-install userspace tools for created filesystem

2003-11-16 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 07:58:37PM +0100, Sebastian Ley wrote:
> Yes, in case of reiserfs, the template would come with mkreiserfs-udeb.
> I neither don't know what provides mkfs.ext3 but I suppose it is
> parted-udeb?

fdisk-udeb (source package util-linux), actually, according to Tollef.

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DSL netinstall

2003-11-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
[Cc'ed to the maintainers of a few related packages. Please Cc replies,
as I'm not subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is the log of a chat I had today on #debian-boot with mrvn (and
before him with other developers).
The consensus is that d-i will not support modem netinstall (both POTS
and DSL).
If you don't agree, and are willing to work on a pppd configurator and
on a PPP netinstall initrd, then please speak now.

 summary: a pppoe-netinstall initrd /could/ be made, but I'm not sure it's 
 worth the effort. the USB modems require plenty (~1 MB?) of .udebs (some 
 of them which cannot be provided by us), and they could go on the business  
card CD
 I could make .udebs of pppd and everything else needed, as long as there 
 is a consensus that somebody else will work on the frontend or they can go  
on the CD even if they will have to be configured manually
 Md: people with dsl can easily download a 50-100MB cd with base. I would
work towards that.
 mrvn: if they can download enough to install the base system then they 
 could as well pick the few regular .debs from a mirror and install them 
 with dpkg
 mrvn: I'm considering a "smallest possible initial download" scenario
 Md: base would be on the cd.
[...]
 Md: my businesscard isonly 20MB :)
 and where did you get it from then?
 debian-cd has a lot of bloat on the official CDs
 Md: They are build by the "mrvn" branch.
 anyway, if you say that a 20 MB download is enough to download something 
 which can be rebooted and used to install real .deb packages then it's all  I 
want
 base-config already fetched read-edid, discover and libdiscover from the
cd anyway.
 can you confirm this?
 No, 50 MB is enough.
 ok, a 50 MB download which allows to install real .debs is still OK for me
 Better say 55MB or so when docs are added.
 Md: Anything that can be downloaded within 15 minues I feel is 
   acceptable.
 mrvn: I think that the limit is 64 MB, the size of the cheapest USB pen 
 drive
 Md: Or that.
[...]
 anyway, let's say that users with an USB modem will have to download the 
 business card-sized image and then manually install a few .debs (I will 
 provide documentation and maybe a script)
 do we want to make something better for PPPoE users? it should not be hard
 Md: a "probe-dsl" program that will look what firmware is needed and 
   apt-get install it?
 mrvn: I assume that users will now which driver package they need
 base-config could ask if the user wants to install dsl and then fetch 
   the required extra debs from cd and run the config prog.
 base-config already fetched read-edid, discover and libdiscover from the
cd anyway.
 do not forget that manual install of the firmware files will still be 
 needed, hotplug must be working, and everything has to be configured 
 manually. I don't think that just this bit of automation will be worth the  
effort, for now
 Md: as I said, write a dsl-config and package the free firmwares.
 Md: And check that the README you want to write for dsl gets included on
the cd.
 Md: don#t think its worth it, the cd with base is small enough.
 mrvn: as I said, I'm not interested at all in writing a dsl-config package  
(which would be very cool, but also a huge effort to do it right) and all 
 the most popular modems need firmwares cannot be redistributed
 netinst initrd? In a pppoe initrd? In the business card image?
 A dsl initrd would need a firmware floppy wich sucks.
 mrvn: I'm still talking about pppoe, no firmware needed. just pppd and a 
 few kernel modules
 about 130 KB, I think
 Ok, still not worth it. It doesn't save any download compared to a base 
   cd.
 +pppoeconf
 I'm not responsible for pppoeconf, its maintainer will have to make it 
 usable for the boot disks
 Md: then hit him untill he does or there will be no dsl initrd.
 it's a convoluted 10 KB shell script which uses dialog and user space 
 pppoe, which I do not plan to support
 it would have to be rewritten from scratch
 or do that.
 Without providing a config any DSL support in d-i is pointless.
 Remeber you hav no docs and no good editor in d-i
 it's not... most users know how to put their own username and password in 
 /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
 I realy would leave that for after base in installed.
 but yes, if the target is the CD image then there is no big difference in 
 installing it before or after the system has been rebooted
 You would need to abort the d-i installation at some point to configure 
   pppoe manually and that just makes problems.
 yes. looks like there is a consensus of two for no PPP support for d-i. :-) 
if it's OK for you I will send this log to the mailing list
 Md: I don't think you get anyone to agree on icnluding it without a 
   config forntend.

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Bug#220117: Installation report

2003-11-16 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 23:46, Wilmer van der Gaast wrote:
> Package: installation-reports
> Priority: normal
> 
> INSTALL REPORT
> 

> Second time I tried, everything went better. I picked the Dutch language
> from the list, and noticed that it also assumes a Dutch keyboard then. I
> can tell you, Dutch keyboards still exist over here, but there are less
> Dutch keyboards than Debian users in this country. Please change that
> default, or better, let the user pick a layout.

Is a lower debconf priority is chosen, a question offering a choice of
keyboards will be offered (A bug is filed to make this clearer).

The default keyboard is the same as it was for woody; whar is the best
default keyboard for Dutch language users ?
Note, a different choice may be selected for Dutch Belgian speakers.

Regards,
Alastair McKinstry

> Wilmer van der Gaast.



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Bug#220282: partconf: should apt-install userspace tools for created filesystem

2003-11-16 Thread Sebastian Ley
Am So, den 16.11.2003 schrieb Steinar H. Gunderson um 19:29:

> Something like "partconf/userspace-packages/ext3 = e2fsprogs", perhaps? This
> would of course have to be a documented hook. :-)

Yes, in case of reiserfs, the template would come with mkreiserfs-udeb.
I neither don't know what provides mkfs.ext3 but I suppose it is
parted-udeb?





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Re: Custom kernels in d-i

2003-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geert Stappers) writes:

> On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:11:18PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > [ interresting question about using none standard kernels ]
> > 
> > Name your kernel-image differently and add another entry to
> > linux-kernel-di. Adust the kernel version to your name in d-i and live
> > happily ever after.
> > 
> > You stil have to exclude your kernel from rsyncs deletion and rebuild
> > the Packages file but you don't rsync the orgiial kernel images every
> > night and a linux-kernel-di update won#t break everything.
> > 
> 
> IIRC: cdebootstrap can handle multiple sources.
> 
> Is using cdebootstrap the solution to none standard kernel support?

Since debootstrap is broken again on m68k I'm looking into
cdebootstrap support for d-i now. Fed up with debootstrap bugs.

MfG
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Bug#220282: partconf: should apt-install userspace tools for created filesystem

2003-11-16 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 07:13:54PM +0100, Sebastian Ley wrote:
> What about a private debconf question, which holds a comma separated
> list of files to apt-install. This template would come with the
> userspace-tools udeb and partconf would apt-install the packages in
> question if corresponding filesystems are created.

Well, there are multiple userspace-tools udebs, right? (I'm not sure about
how this works -- I can't really figure out where mkfs.* comes from :-) )
They'd have to register themselves in some sane way allowing for partconf to
lookup filesystems into debs, then.

Something like "partconf/userspace-packages/ext3 = e2fsprogs", perhaps? This
would of course have to be a documented hook. :-)
  
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Bug#220048: 220048:Cannot boot from CD

2003-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Klaus Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>>   Klaus Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I have no problem booting other distributions like:
>> -   debian-30r1-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso
>>  That should be isolinux too, just an older version.
>> Can you test one of cd 2-7 too, those should be all syslinux.
> 
> Excuse my ignorence - do you want me to try to boot from the second CD
> of debian 3.0r1? - what would that prove?

The first CD is isolinux based, all the other CDs in the set are
syslinux based.

It would show if you can boot syslinux without problems.

MfG
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Re: Custom kernels in d-i

2003-11-16 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:11:18PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > [ interresting question about using none standard kernels ]
> 
> Name your kernel-image differently and add another entry to
> linux-kernel-di. Adust the kernel version to your name in d-i and live
> happily ever after.
> 
> You stil have to exclude your kernel from rsyncs deletion and rebuild
> the Packages file but you don't rsync the orgiial kernel images every
> night and a linux-kernel-di update won#t break everything.
> 

IIRC: cdebootstrap can handle multiple sources.

Is using cdebootstrap the solution to none standard kernel support?



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Re: Pruning Verbosity

2003-11-16 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 06:56:01PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
> Are you talking about Exim?
> 
> Bugreport 551125 becomes next sunday 4 years.
> ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=51125 )

sarge will use exim4 for precisely these reasons (exim3 isn't
debconf-configurable, exim4 is). :-)

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Re: Pruning Verbosity

2003-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Rob J. Caskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I must ask, do we really need most users to answer questions about mail
> exchange on install at the default verbosity level? Local exchange only
> seems like a good and sensible default for 99% of users. Also, if I remember
> correctly the choice is not debconf-ized and has some wierd script that
> doesn't even have default answers selected. Any thoughts?
> 
> Sincerely,
> Rob J. Caskey

Thats exim4-config after the first reboot, right?

Has nothing to do with d-i, bug the maintainer about it.

I would guess 99% want to fetch mails (probably fetchmail) and send
via smarthost. The number of users wanting local mail only I would
guess to be 0% (+1 user for you :).

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Bug#220550: base-installer: should take into account that deboostrap is not idempotent

2003-11-16 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
OK, I've got a patch ready for this, which simply stats /target/bin/sh and
uses that as a heuristic of an already existing install (which would make
debootstrap fail). This would fail if an old /usr partition was mounted
inside a fresh / partition, but it would at least help in 95% of the cases.
(I could of course simply stat /target/usr/bin/awk too, or simply even
/target/usr/bin; that would solve the /usr problems. :-) )

The problem is what we do if the user wants to remove everything. Can I do a
system("rm -rf /target/*")? (The user would have to be informed very clearly
that this will remove everything on ALL partitions...) Or should I simply
tell the user to always go back to partconf and clear the partitions from
there? Apart from that and some testing, I believe the patch should be
working OK.

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Bug#201191: partconf: mkfs should indicate progress

2003-11-16 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
Did we get anywhere on this? I'd vote in favour of rewriting partconf using
libparted for the file system generation, but if people disagree I could
probably write a simple progress bar. (In that case, do we want to try to
grok the mkfs output for a few known filesystems, or not?)

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Bug#220282: partconf: should apt-install userspace tools for created filesystem

2003-11-16 Thread Sebastian Ley
Am So, den 16.11.2003 schrieb Steinar H. Gunderson um 18:24:

> For reiserfs we have progsreiserfs and reiserfsprogs (yes, two different
> packages with different maintainers), for xfs we have xfsprogs, for ext2 and
> ext3 we have e2fsprogs, for jfs jfsutils etc.. Should we simply make a table
> of some sort, or should we rely on Provides: for this?

I would like better a solution which fits better with modularity.

What about a private debconf question, which holds a comma separated
list of files to apt-install. This template would come with the
userspace-tools udeb and partconf would apt-install the packages in
question if corresponding filesystems are created.





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Re: Pruning Verbosity

2003-11-16 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:31:44PM -0500, Rob J. Caskey wrote:
> I must ask, do we really need most users to answer questions about mail
> exchange on install at the default verbosity level? Local exchange only
> seems like a good and sensible default for 99% of users. Also, if I remember
> correctly the choice is not debconf-ized and has some wierd script that
> doesn't even have default answers selected. Any thoughts?

Are you talking about Exim?

Bugreport 551125 becomes next sunday 4 years.
( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=51125 )


> 
> Sincerely,
> Rob J. Caskey


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Bug#220868: Patch to implement a CLEARSEEN command

2003-11-16 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
Hi,

The included (untested) patch implements a new CLEARSEEN command, which
should be called right before the module aborts. I don't really like adding
new debconf commands all the time, so I'm not committing it before somebody
else acks me on this :-)

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? cdebconf-clearseen.diff
Index: src/commands.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/commands.c,v
retrieving revision 1.54
diff -u -r1.54 commands.c
--- src/commands.c  30 Sep 2003 20:23:07 -  1.54
+++ src/commands.c  16 Nov 2003 17:38:49 -
@@ -690,3 +690,20 @@
 asprintf(&out, "%u OK", CMDSTATUS_SUCCESS);
 return out;
 }
+
+/*
+ * Clears the entire seen stack, so it will not be saved. Usually 
+ * done when a user aborts configuration of a module, so he/she will
+ * be asked the same questions again when trying to configuring the
+ * module at a later stage.
+ */
+char *
+command_clearseen(struct confmodule *mod, char *arg)
+{
+char *out;
+
+mod->update_seen_questions(mod, STACK_SEEN_CLEAR);
+
+asprintf(&out, "%u OK", CMDSTATUS_SUCCESS);
+return out;
+}
Index: src/commands.h
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/commands.h,v
retrieving revision 1.10
diff -u -r1.10 commands.h
--- src/commands.h  3 Nov 2003 20:57:38 -   1.10
+++ src/commands.h  16 Nov 2003 17:38:49 -
@@ -205,4 +205,14 @@
  */
 char *command_settitle(struct confmodule *mod, char *arg);
 
+/**
+ * @brief handler for the CLEARSEEN debconf command
+ *
+ * Clear the entire seen stack, usually used when aborting configuration
+ * of a module.
+ *
+ * @warning This is not in the debconf spec
+ */
+char *command_clearseen(struct confmodule *mod, char *arg);
+
 #endif
Index: src/confmodule.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/confmodule.c,v
retrieving revision 1.28
diff -u -r1.28 confmodule.c
--- src/confmodule.c27 Sep 2003 10:18:04 -  1.28
+++ src/confmodule.c16 Nov 2003 17:38:49 -
@@ -38,6 +38,7 @@
 { "progress",   command_progress },
 { "x_loadtemplatefile", command_x_loadtemplatefile },
 { "settitle",   command_settitle },
+{ "clearseen",  command_clearseen },
 { 0, 0 }
 };
 
@@ -248,6 +249,7 @@
}
break;
case STACK_SEEN_SAVE:
+   case STACK_SEEN_CLEAR:
if (mod->seen_questions == NULL)
return DC_OK;
 
@@ -257,7 +259,8 @@
q = mod->questions->methods.get(mod->questions, 
*(mod->seen_questions+i));
if (q == NULL)
return DC_NOTOK;
-   q->flags |= DC_QFLAG_SEEN;
+   if (action == STACK_SEEN_SAVE)
+   q->flags |= DC_QFLAG_SEEN;
DELETE(*(mod->seen_questions+i));
}
DELETE(mod->seen_questions);
Index: src/confmodule.h
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/confmodule.h,v
retrieving revision 1.10
diff -u -r1.10 confmodule.h
--- src/confmodule.h18 Aug 2003 13:25:35 -  1.10
+++ src/confmodule.h16 Nov 2003 17:38:49 -
@@ -18,8 +18,9 @@
 enum seen_action {
 STACK_SEEN_ADD,   /*  Add a question to the stack   */
 STACK_SEEN_REMOVE,/*  Remove a question from the stack  */
-STACK_SEEN_SAVE   /*  Questions are flagged as seen and
+STACK_SEEN_SAVE,  /*  Questions are flagged as seen and
   removed from the etack */
+STACK_SEEN_CLEAR  /*  Clear the entire stack*/
 };
 
 struct configuration;
Index: src/client/confmodule
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/client/confmodule,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -r1.4 confmodule
--- src/client/confmodule   27 Sep 2003 10:18:04 -  1.4
+++ src/client/confmodule   16 Nov 2003 17:38:49 -
@@ -34,8 +34,9 @@
 # an upper-case function.
 _old_opts="$@"
 for i in "capb CAPB" "set SET" "reset RESET" "title TITLE" \
- "input INPUT" "beginblock BEGINBLOCK" "endblock ENDBLOCK" "go GO" \
-"get GET" "register REGISTER" "unregister UNREGISTER" "subst SUBST" \
+ "input INPUT" "beginblock BEGINBLOCK" "clearseen CLEARSEEN" \
+"endblock ENDBLOCK" "go GO" "get GET" "register REGISTER" \
+"unregister UNREGISTER" "subst SUBST" \ 
 "previous_module PREVIOUS_MODULE" "fset FSET" "fget FGET" \
 "purge PURGE" "metaget METAGET" "version VERSION" "clear CLEAR" \
 "progress PROGRESS" "settitle SETTITLE

Pruning Verbosity

2003-11-16 Thread Rob J. Caskey
I must ask, do we really need most users to answer questions about mail
exchange on install at the default verbosity level? Local exchange only
seems like a good and sensible default for 99% of users. Also, if I remember
correctly the choice is not debconf-ized and has some wierd script that
doesn't even have default answers selected. Any thoughts?

Sincerely,
Rob J. Caskey




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Netinst feedback

2003-11-16 Thread Steven N. Hirsch
All,

After using RedHat for several years, I'm finally fed up with their 
chronic ignoring of bug-reports from non-enterprise customers and the 
recent moves torwards per-seat licensing were the last straw...

I won't dwell upon what a horror my first Debian experience (woody) was, 
you've all heard it enough to motivate the new installer.  Which is why 
I'm writing this.

I screwed up my courage to take another chance at Debian, using the new 
netinst CD.  This is definitely a good step forward, but there are some 
issues I wanted to report.  Until I get comfortable with it, I begin by 
bringing up a new distro as a VMware guest running under a RedHat 8.0 host 
and all comments below are relative that environment.  I opted for the 
'test' (sarge) installation, since woody is hopelessly backlevel for 
almost anything I'd need to run:

o Even though I had specified a small /boot partition during disk
partitioning, Grub was incorrectly setting root to (hd1,1), which is my /
partition.  Edited command line from grub startup, then fixed
/boot/grub/menu.lst accordingly.

o The installer created /usr/X11R6/bin with 0700 permissions, which neatly 
prevented a non-root user from running anything X-related.  Took quite a 
while to figure out what was going on.  A simple chmod fixed it.

o The base system does not probe for IDE devices, rendering the VMware 
CD-ROM device inaccessible.  I had to manually modprobe ide-detect after 
booting.  I'm unfamiliar with module configuration under Debian, so I'm 
not sure where to request that this be loaded on a persistent basis.

o User KDE session cannot produce sound unless permissions for 
/dev/sequencer and /dev/dsp are changed to 0777.  This also begs the 
question of why a GNU/Debian installer chooses KDE as the default (I 
didn't ask for it, and expected Gnome).

o The default X display driver for VMware guests cannot properly render 
antialiased fonts, e.g. the main menubar popup shows all entries blank 
until the mouse is moved over them.  Installing the latest VMware X driver 
from the VMware tools package fixed this, although their installation 
script hosed X completely until I renamed the original (which VMware 
modifies to XF86Config-4.BeforeVmware) back to XF86Config-4.  This is 
certainly not a Debian issue, but it would be helpful to include a current 
display driver by default.

o Line drawing characters do not seem available to 'mc' when run in 
konsole.  Works fine from an xterm or rxvt window.  I've never seem this 
in other KDE environments.

I poked at the Debian bug report system, but couldn't fathom how or where 
to enter this feedback.  Hopefully, sending it to this list is not too out 
of line.

Steve



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Bug#219558: Fixed in CVS

2003-11-16 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
Hi,

This has been fixed in CVS. The problem was that total_wanted was decremented
by the amount of distributed space after each partition (which makes no
sense anyhow; all partitions should be treated equal, regardless of which
order they are listed in). Thus, if there was enough space on the disk for
all the partitions, total_wanted became zero, and divide by zero occured.

In addition, I've fixed it so it never tries to distribute space at all if
total_wanted = 0 (ie. all partitions have max=min from the start).

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Bug#220282: partconf: should apt-install userspace tools for created filesystem

2003-11-16 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
How do we handle this as smoothly as possible? Should we insist on a naming
standard of some sort?

For reiserfs we have progsreiserfs and reiserfsprogs (yes, two different
packages with different maintainers), for xfs we have xfsprogs, for ext2 and
ext3 we have e2fsprogs, for jfs jfsutils etc.. Should we simply make a table
of some sort, or should we rely on Provides: for this?

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uploading get-packages, modem users beware

2003-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi,

I had certain longer shell fragments of the build/makefile split out
into actual shell scripts for some time in my tree and I'm now merging
some of that into the main branch.

First thing I'm moving is the downloading of udebs and preparing UDEBSDIR.

# get-packages   ...
#
# Download deb or udeb package with the help of apt-get
#
# Files:
#   sources.list.udeb / sources.list.udeb.local
#   sources.list.deb  / sources.list.deb.local
#
# Environment:
#   APTDIR   - basename for the apt directory (default: apt.$TYPE)
#   DEBUG- build debug udebs from source (default: n)
#   DEBUGUDEBDIR - directory for debug udebs (default: debugudebs)
#   UDEBDIR  - directory for ready-to-use udebs (default: udebs)
#   LOCALUDEBDIR - directory for locally provided udebs (default: localudebs)
#   ONLINE   - update Packages files (default: y)

The only changes intended are:

- sources.list.[.local] is now used to support downloading debs
  and udebs seperatly.

- apt. is now the APTDIR. Modem users (hi joeyh) should
  "mv apt apt.udeb"

MfG
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Bug#221116: installation-reports: Installation report

2003-11-16 Thread Martin
Package: installation-reports
Severity: normal
Tags: experimental



-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux localhost 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: Beta 1 CD Image 100 MB
uname -a: Linux localhost 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686
GNU/Linux
Date: 16th Nov 2003 12:30
Method: From CD (100MB Beta) X-Windows from Internet (FTP)

Machine: Self-build
Processor: Duron 1300
Memory: 512 MB
HD: One 4G Hard drive
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
/dev/hda2   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro  0 1
/dev/hda1   noneswapsw  0 0
/dev/fd0/floppy autorw,user,noauto  0 0
/dev/hdc/cdrom  autoro,user,noauto  0 0
proc/proc   procdefaults0 0

Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] (rev
02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
00:04.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South]
(rev 22)
00:04.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 10)
00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 10)
00:04.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 10)
00:04.4 Bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 30)
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Fortemedia, Inc Xwave QS3000A [FM801]
(rev b2)
00:0d.1 Input device controller: Fortemedia, Inc Xwave QS3000A [FM801 game
port] (rev b2)
00:11.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20265 (rev
02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV10DDR [GeForce 256
DDR] (rev 10)


Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

Install worked fine. Selected X-Window and LSB. The missing packages where
installed
from the WEB using FTP without any problem. Sound works also fine with XMMS
(Installed with dselect over the web)


Problems:
USB Mouse was not detected. I plugged the mouse to the PS/2 port, changed
the setting in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
to /dev/psaux and everything works fine now even the mouse wheel.

German translation of the texts are not complete. Most of the dialogs where
in english.





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Re: Sarge installation failure

2003-11-16 Thread Sebastian Ley
Am So, den 16.11.2003 schrieb Marco Bascietto um 15:33:

> The installation was not successfull.
> The installation steps untill reboot were ok, the laptop rebooted and 
> reentered the installation process. After that it automatically 
> rebooted, no matter what it was doing, or I was typing. In facts I found 
> out that it reboots after approx 45-50 seconds after the message 
> "Debian  installation successfull" appears, usually when I am creating 
> an user account.

A friend of mine had exactly the same problem. IIRC it was a kernel
configuration problem. He compiled a new kernel and everything worked
fine. He suspected ACPI would cause the problem but we never found
out...

Sebastian

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Re: dhcp idea

2003-11-16 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Am Fre, den 14.11.2003 schrieb Christian Perrier um 18:09:
> Quoting Denis Barbier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > I have indeed a running script so that updated PO files are available
> > online (and then translators can grab them, not all translators want to
> > learn CVS and checkout a local copy of the whole debian-installer), but
> > there are no automatic commits.
> > So yes, it helps if you can run debconf-updatepo yourself.
> 
> Looks like Gaudezn did it as we've seen that the french translation
> needed workimmediately done by Philippe Batailler.
I didn't but denis did it (manually) soon after I commited the template
polishing.
> 
> Great work, Gaudenz. I'm sure the templates will now look
> terrific.. :-)
hm? I hope they will not frighten and I will not captured as
terrorist[1], you never know these days :-)

gaudenz

[1] "Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"
Terrific Ter*rif"ic, a. L. terrificus; fr. terrere to
   frighten + facere to make. See Terror, and Fact.
-->   Causing terror; adapted to excite great fear or dread; <--
   terrible; as, a terrific form; a terrific sight.



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Bug#214491: linux-wlan-ng

2003-11-16 Thread David Everly
My system uses linux-wlan-ng for network access.  I need to be able to
set the following as part of the install:

   wireless_enc
   wireless_essid
   wireless_mode
   wlan_ng_authtype
   wlan_ng_hostwep
   wlan_ng_key0
   wlan_ng_key1
   wlan_ng_key2
   wlan_ng_key3

Unfortunately, with the "Debian Installer Beta 1", I don't see a mechanism
for this, nor do I see the executables and modules that are needed.

Thanks,
Dave


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Re: [patch]: fdisk-udeb needs reduced .mo files for l10n

2003-11-16 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Am Fre, den 14.11.2003 schrieb Denis Barbier um 21:02:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 06:21:56PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > 
> > > >The fdisk-udeb for debian-installer requires cut-down versions 
> > > >of the .mo files for localisation.
> > > >The following patch produces these.
> > 
> > .../...
> > 
> > > I wrote up a patch to add the missing l10n to cfdisk.
> > > Unfortunately its bloats the udeb a bit:
> > >  
> > > total 4072
> > >   68 bsdutils_2.12-4_i386.deb
> > >  468 fdisk-udeb_2.12-4_i386.udeb
> > >  136 mount_2.12-4_i386.deb
> > >4 util-linux-2.12
> > >4 util-linux-2.12.new
> > >  984 util-linux-locales_2.12-4_all.deb
> > >  148 util-linux_2.12-4.diff.gz
> > >4 util-linux_2.12-4.dsc
> > >   60 util-linux_2.12-4_i386.build
> > >4 util-linux_2.12-4_i386.changes
> > >  372 util-linux_2.12-4_i386.deb
> > > 1820 util-linux_2.12.orig.tar.gz
> > > 
> > > Around 70K per language added to the udeb.
> > > Is this acceptable, or what else should be done?
> > 
> > There was no reaction to this.
> > 
> > Having the cfdisk part translated is IMHO really important. Without
> > this, we will end up with a full translated installer in a lot of
> > languagesexcept for the manual partitioning step.
> 
> In fact Alastair considered all fdisk/*.c files.  But if you only
> extract messages from fdisk/cfdisk.c, PO files are ten times smaller.
> Some messages could also be removed (like output of cfdisk -h), but
> it requires patching sources, which is quite unpractical.

IMO space does not matter too much here, as cfdisk is only used in the
second stage of the installer. So it only affects the memory usage of
debian-installer and will not conflict with the floppy installation
methods as this udeb will be loaded by anna and is not present on the
floppies. So if you ask me, then go for it and try to reduce the size to
what can be done with an acceptable effort.

gaudenz


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Sarge installation failure

2003-11-16 Thread Marco Bascietto
Hello,

I would like to install sarge on my laptop ASUS Pentium IV 1.8GHz, with 
an ATI Radeon M7-P with integrated 32Mb, on a previous Woody 
installation. I have partitioned my HD into a windows 18Gb partition, a 
256Mb swap partition, and a 11Gb Linux ext2 partition.

The installation was not successfull.
The installation steps untill reboot were ok, the laptop rebooted and 
reentered the installation process. After that it automatically 
rebooted, no matter what it was doing, or I was typing. In facts I found 
out that it reboots after approx 45-50 seconds after the message 
"Debian  installation successfull" appears, usually when I am creating 
an user account.
The same behaviour occurred on a second, third, and fourth installation 
process. lilo was not installed and I could not enter the windows 
partition. I had to reinstall woody in order to have lilo installed 
properly and re-enter the windows partition.

How can I solve this problem?

Thank you,
Marco Bascietto
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Bug#220048: 220048:Cannot boot from CD

2003-11-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Klaus Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
> 
> I have the same problem with my new PC. I thought that it was a bad disk and
> then a bad CRRW drive - but no - I have burned the disk 3 times now.
> 
> - AMD Barton XP 2500+
> - MSI Nforce2 motherboard
> - Phoenix Award bios, V5.1 041803 18:12:13
> - LG DVD/CDRW combo
> - no floppy.
> 
> I have no problem booting other distributions like:
> 
> -   debian-30r1-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso

That should be isolinux too, just an older version.

Can you test one of cd 2-7 too, those should be all syslinux.
MfG
Goswin


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Processed: Give it a name

2003-11-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> retitle 220868 cdebconf: handling of "seen" flags when backing out
Bug#220868: partconf: should always re-ask its main menu question
Changed Bug title.

> thanks
Stopping processing here.

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Processed: General debconf problem

2003-11-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#220868: partconf: should always re-ask its main menu question
Bug reassigned from package `partconf' to `cdebconf'.

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General debconf problem

2003-11-16 Thread Sebastian Ley
reassign 220868 cdebconf
thanks

The problem encountered with partconf is cdebconf related. In short this
is what happens:

If you back out to the main-menu from a menu item, cdebconf will set the
seen flags for all the questions it has seen. However, the package will
be stl marked "unconfigured" and the next time it is executed, it won't
be executed with reconfigure.

However the question should all be displayed in that case, as if there
were no seen flags.

My idea is: Have a debconf command that clears all "seen" updates which
are pending. Such a command can be issued whenever the user backs out of
main-menu.

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Bug#220048: 220048:Cannot boot from CD

2003-11-16 Thread Klaus Pedersen
Hi,

I have the same problem with my new PC. I thought that it was a bad disk and
then a bad CRRW drive - but no - I have burned the disk 3 times now.
- AMD Barton XP 2500+
- MSI Nforce2 motherboard
- Phoenix Award bios, V5.1 041803 18:12:13
- LG DVD/CDRW combo
- no floppy.
I have no problem booting other distributions like:

-   debian-30r1-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso
-   redhat 9.0
-   Mandrake 9.1
-   Knopplix
-   Older Debian's Sarge netinst (where do I find a version ID on the CD?)
   (one boots a kernel "linux 2.4.20-1-386 #3 Sat Mar 22..."). But they
   fail to work because of the missing floppy drive.
My other computers doesn't have problems booting the CD (fx):

- AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+
-  MSI SIS745 motherboard
- Samsung CDRW
(any ideas?)

Klaus Pedersen



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Bug#221046: bootfloppy-image, proxy, without CD

2003-11-16 Thread Andreas J Koenig
Package: installation-reports
Version: beta1 (2003-11-09)

debian-installer

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: bootfloppy-image.img beta1 (timestamp of the
  images: 2003-11-09; downloaded today from
  http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-i386/20031109/images/)

Date: 2003-11-16
Method: bootfloppy on a laptop with PCMCIA; PC has a CD drive, but I did not want to 
use it
Machine: Toshiba 740CDT (about 1998)
Processor: Pentium MMX 166 MHz
Memory: ca. 80MB
Root Device: should become IDE, but I did not reach the stage where this matters
Root Size/partition table: n/a
Output of lspci: n/a

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[ OK ]
Configure network HW:   [ OK ]
Config network: [ OK ]
Detect CD:  [ E ]
Load installer modules: [ E ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]

Comments/Problems:

As soon as the installation routines had network access, they started
downloading lots of data from raff.debian.org. I consider it a bug
that it didn't give me a chance to configure a different server,
especially as I do have a slow internet connection but a proxy server
in the LAN. And I want to repeat the installation within LANs without
Internet access.

After that, the installation complained:

Your installation CD could not be mounted. That probably means that
the CD is not yet inserted. If that's the case, just insert it and
don't perform the manual configuration; the CD mount will be
re-tried. If your CD was already in the drive, there was another
problem: try the manual CD configuration

Perform manual CD configuration? [Yes] [No]


If I say "No", I just get the same screen again.

If I say "Yes", I get pulled into a dialog about CDROM modules and
devices that I'm not interested in. I want the thing to continue
downloading from the net without using the CD.

I find no way to go past this point in the dialog.


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Bug#221029: installation: Doesn't handle request to install on xfs gracefully

2003-11-16 Thread Thomas Steffen
Subject: installation: Doesn't handle request to install on xfs gracefully
Package: installation
Version: N/A; reported 2003-11-15
Severity: minor
I have tried the beta-1 for x86 full installation ISO on my home
machine (ALI Magick 1 board with Duron CPU), and it seems to detect
the hardware all right. Then I tried to install on the only spare
partition I have, which is formated as xfs. I didn't get an error
message when I selected the xfs partition as root. But it didn't work
either, failing with some weird error during the actual installation
(package copying failed with exit status ?).
I guess that xfs is not support, and therefore the mount failed, so
that all the packages ended up on the ramdisk. If this is correct,
there are several safeguards missing. First of all xfs should not be
acceptable as root, and the mount of the filesystem should of course
be checked to work.
More even minor problems:

The progress bars are not visible on my B/W monitor (being either red
or blue, I guess, and B/W uses the green channel only...).
I miss an option to resize an existing NTFS partition that takes up
all disk space (which is unfortunately the "standard"
situation). ntfsresize should do that.
I had more trouble due to no network card being present, but that has
been mentioned.
I also had trouble booting the CD on a ASUS P4P800, but I can't
pinpoint the problem, and it may be similar to the bug reported
already.


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Bug#221031: debian-installer: Accept udebs from local mirror with file: URL

2003-11-16 Thread Daniel Schepler
Package: debian-installer
Severity: wishlist
Version: 20031113

It seems the current debian-installer build process completely ignores
entries with file: in /etc/apt/sources.list.  It would be nice if it
were possible to build the package using a local mirror without having
to set up a local web server just for this, or search through it
manually for udebs to put in localudebs.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux frobnitz 2.6.0-test9 #1 Thu Oct 30 13:37:15 PST 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=en, LC_CTYPE=en (ignored: LC_ALL set to en_US.UTF-8)


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