install help: boot floopies + sarge-i386-netinst.iso (d-i beta3)

[Andrés A. Rocchia]

Hello, first sorry for my english I´m trying to improve it :)

 I´m trying to install debian sarge with boot floppies and
sarge-i386-netinst.iso (d-i beta3) mounted as a loop device in the
ramdisk.

 I put the sarge-i386-netinst.iso in a ext2 partition /dev/hda6
(/home) then boot with the boot floppies (boot.img and root.img),
then I use the cd-drivers floppy and mount the
sarge-i386-netinst.iso in /sarge_cd as a loop device.

 Now I want to tell to d-i that go with the instalation from there
(/sarge_cd) but I don´t know how to do that. Can someone give me
some help?

  thankyou in advance.

AR


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Bug#239428: marked as done (no cdrom entry in the generated fstab)

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Debian-installer-version: beta 3 of the Debian-Installer from
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta3/sarge-i386-netinst.iso

uname -a: Linux vmdeb 2.4.25 #1 Sun Mar 21 10:27:58 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: 2004.03.21 ~1300EST
Method: CD Install for base, 'net thereafter.

Machine: VMware 4.5.1 running on a dual Athlon MP 1900 system.
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) MP 1900+
Memory:  MemTotal:   255696 kB
Root Device: SCSI (faux VMware Buslogic)
Root Size/partition table: 3 devices configured
~ /dev/sda:
~NameFlags  Part Type  FS Type  [Label]Size (MB)
- -
~sda1   Primary   Linux ext2 131.61
~sda2   Primary   Linux swap 509.97
~sda3   Primary   Linux ReiserFS3652.03

~ /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc configured in a single volume group, partitioned
to an LV. Here's current df output:

Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda3  3566284   1508344   2057940  43% /
/dev/sda1   120411  7144106843   7% /boot
/dev/Storage_VG/Store  3997568 32840   3964728   1% /mnt/storage
tmpfs   127848 0127848   0% /dev/shm

Output of lspci:
vmdeb:~# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge
(rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge
(rev 01)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 08)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 08)
00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: VMWare Inc: Unknown device 0405
00:10.0 SCSI storage controller: BusLogic BT-946C (BA80C30) [MultiMaster
10] (rev 01)
00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970
[PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 10)
00:12.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 02)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

First, kudos! Much better than previous installer betas. There was one
issue, and I of course have an opinion or two.

First, the issue: There was no cdrom entry in fstab when install was
complete. Easy fix, but momentarily confusing.

Opinions:
1. There are three visible Hardware Detection phases. I don't understand
why, and to the uneducated eye, it looks like a problem. If they are
doing different

Bug#239763: marked as done (debian-installer: bad cdrom entry in generated fstab)

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After my complete network installation of debian unstable, using
DHCP, PXE-booting, TFTP, and stuff, which pretty much worked,
the generated /etc/fstab contains a cdrom entry without a device name,
like so:

/dev/hda3 /   ext2 ...
  /cdrom  iso9660  ...

which is probably not the right thing to do. Would be better to use
/dev/cdrom or just not add the entry if the installer doesn't know
if I have a cdrom drive or not (like when I didn't boot from one).

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The lack of a cdrom entry in fstab is a known bug in beta 3. It has
since been fixed in the daily builds.

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Re: partman (was Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive)

[Andrew Pollock]

On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 10:46:05PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> 
> We do have a beta3 branch in the repo, but it's acting more like a tag,
> I guess, no changes have been made to it.
> 
> I tried the new partman, and it works great. Wow, that's a lot of work!
> My only quibble is with the use of the term Wizard, as in "Use the
> Wizard to partition". I don't think wizard is a proper noun, so should
> not be capitalised, and I don't see how this is better than the old
> "Automatically partition". It assumes that the user is familiar with
> windows wizard-type things (and doesn't hate them ;-), and seems overly
> cute to me.

Just my $0.05 worth...

On a system that I've already got an operating system installed on, that I
really, really would prefer not to hose, I'm going to fear and distrust
anything that uses the words "Automatic" and "Partition" together, and
choose some other option that implies I have more control over whether or
not I accidentally hose the partition that has my other OS on it...

Particularly if I'm not confident before selecting the item that it isn't
going to go off on it's merry way and do something unrevertable before I get
a chance to go "hang on!".

I suspect users new to Linux/Debian but familiar with PCs in general are
going to take this line of reasoning.

regards

Andrew


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Request for review of partman-newworld

[Colin Watson]

I've checked in partman-newworld, which wraps up the method for creating
the special Apple_Bootstrap partition you need to boot newworld PowerMac
systems. I've tested it somewhat, although not exactly with a
straight-through install or all error cases because I'm not in a
position to trash my current disk. As such, I haven't uploaded it to
unstable yet.

This was my first exposure to partman's internals, so I'd appreciate it
if a partman expert (Anton?) could look it over for any glaring errors.

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Re: Technically: What is the point to identity to country/province, anyway?

[Nathanael Nerode]

Steve Langasek wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 09:26:42AM +0700, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
>> I still have no clue on why "country/province" information is
>> technically needed. Sure, "language" is needed, and so does "time zone",
>> "keyboard", etc. But for what is "country"?
> 
> It's used for:
> 
> - collation order of text
Not country-related; this is strictly language/dialect related.

> - currency symbols and formatting
This one is probably the closest to being actually country-based, though
even there it isn't always, as a few countries have multiple simultaneous
currencies.

> - numeric formatting characteristics (thousands separator, decimal point)
Again, varies within some countries.  And so on.

> - characteristics of time representation (24/12h, : vs ., ...)
Again, not really purely country-based.  Here in the US, it's 24-hour if
you're in the military, 12-hour if you're not,...

> - paper size (in theory)
Heh.  This definitely varies at a below-country level!

> any or all of which can vary per country, even among countries which use
> the same language.
Even within *one* country.  :-P

> It also can be used to support separate regional translations where
> dialects are sufficiently different to warrant it,
Unless the dialects are in the same country.  :-P

> and can also
> distinguish between locales which use different character sets to
> represent the same language.
Unless they're in the same country.  :-P

> Oh, and it's also a good heuristic for guessing the user's timezone,
Unless the country has multiple time zones, in which case it just restricts
it to a smaller list.  :-P

> keyboard,
Well, sort of; *collection* of keyboards to choose from is more like it.
And that's more language-based anyway

> *and* mirror of choice,
Likely to be wrong for large countries, and likely to be absent for small
countries.  :-P

> making it much more likely that we can
> present the correct default option to the user for each of these
> selections.

OK, I guess what I'm saying is that country-based defaults are *very* rough
and not really that good.  I suppose they're better than nothing,
though.  :-)

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Re: Location list proposal [was: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?]

[Nathanael Nerode]

Dave Jones wrote:

> The country's name is "ROC"(Republic of China).
> 
> Taiwan Province is an administrative subdivision of the Republic of China
> (ROC). Even though the province-level municipalities of Taipei City and
> Kaohsiung City are on the island of Taiwan, they are not administratively
> part of the Province. Taiwan Province also excludes Kinmen and Lienchiang
> Counties, which are adminstered as the ROC part of Fujian Province.
> 
> So Taiwan _is_ a province, both for "ROC" and "PRC". This is neutral.

Yeah, but Taiwan Province isn't what is meant.  :-P  What's meant is Chinese
(Traditional) writing system, ROC currency, timezone, etc.

Country/Region/Area is simply the Wrong Category, especially considering
that Hong Kong uses Traditional Chinese and so forth.  Unfortunately, the
lang_COUNTRY locale system is too entrenched at this point.  :-P

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Install on an NEC Versa M320 laptop

[Andrew Pollock]

Hi,

This is a quasi-install report. I helped a friend from Uni install Debian on
his laptop (an NEC Versa M320) using the beta3 CD.

He did most of the install, I wanted to observe from a useability
perspective. He had pretty much no prior Linux knowledge.

The install itself went really well. An observation was that when the laptop
was warm booted from Windows XP, it hung completely when the e100 module was
installed, both during hardware detection and after installation. Must be
some hardware bug.

About the only useability thing was during base-config, when he was prompted
to enter the name of a user to create, he expected what he typed to
overwrite the "Debian User" default value, whereas one has to backspace over
it first. Not sure if this behaviour is something easily changed.

It was the first time I'd attempted the automatic partitioning with a disk
that had some free space, and it "just worked" and was really cool. How is
the ratio between the root partition and the /home partition determined? I
forget how much free space we made available for the install, but I did
notice that the root partition was something like 5G big, and the /home was
13G. For a laptop with a single user, I would have given a tad more space
for installing software. I'd be surprised if he gets anywhere near filling
13G with user data.

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Re: Location list proposal [was: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?]

[Dave Jones]

The country's name is "ROC"(Republic of China).

Taiwan Province is an administrative subdivision of the Republic of China (ROC). Even 
though the province-level municipalities of Taipei City and Kaohsiung City are on the 
island of Taiwan, they are not administratively part of the Province. Taiwan Province 
also excludes Kinmen and Lienchiang Counties, which are adminstered as the ROC part of 
Fujian Province.

So Taiwan _is_ a province, both for "ROC" and "PRC". This is neutral.



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>with this issue, they tend to be irrational.

>People in Taiwan don't like to be called "province of >China" because it's not the 
>fact. Of course, we don't want >to irritate people in China. So we accept to be 
>called >"Taiwan," a more neutral name. 



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Re: partman (was Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive)

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* Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-04-06 23:42]:
> > Wizard to partition". I don't think wizard is a proper noun, so should
> > not be capitalised, and I don't see how this is better than the old
> > "Automatically partition". It assumes that the user is familiar with
> > windows wizard-type things (and doesn't hate them ;-), and seems overly
> > cute to me.
> 
> Seconded.  "Automatically partition" is better.

I agree.  "Automatically partition" gives a fairly clear idea what it
is about, while "wizard" might not do that.
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Bug#242511: Install report beta3 i386 wireless

[Alexander Schmehl]

Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/20040406/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso
 booted, but didn't found my wlan card
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/20040406/sarge-i386-netinst.iso 
didn't booted on my notebook
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/20040405/sarge-i386-netinst.iso 
didn't booted on my notebook
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta3/sarge-i386-netinst.iso 
finaly worked
uname -a: 
Date: Mi Apr  7 02:54:24 CEST 2004
Method: How did you install?  What did you boot off?  If network
  install, from where?  Proxied?

Bootet from the internal cd-drive, installed via wireless lan (Netgear MA401
pcmica card) from a local mirror without proxy


Machine: Compaq Armada E500 Notebook
Processor: Pentium III Coppermine, 900 MHz
Memory: 256M
Root Device: Hitachi 2.5 inch drive, connected to primary ide
Root Size/partition table:  
7GB root on hda1
512M swap on hda5
rest /home on hda6

Output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
00:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1225 (rev 01)
00:04.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1225 (rev 01)
00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 03)
00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E (rev 10)
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 09)
00:09.1 Serial controller: Lucent Microelectronics LT WinModem
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 
64)



Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[E] - might be a problem with my drive
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [E] - a "secret" wireless lan
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:

During the installation I had two problems:

First I was unable to boot the netinst daily snapshot from 2004-04-06 or -05.
That might be a problem of my cd-drive, but I wonder why I was able too boot
busnisscard sized iso and beta 3.


I installed via wireless lan, but needed to switch to shell, and set the essid
manually, since my router hides it.

After reboot network didn't work anymore, I needed to set wep-key and essid
manually.

Las question: I booted with the option "vga=791", since I like to use the whole
display of my notebook. However: After the reboot this kernel-parameter got
lost. Would it be possible to check, if the user specified a kernel parameter
and add them to the bootloader?


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Re: Technically: What is the point to identity to country/province, anyway?

[Steve Langasek]

On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 09:26:42AM +0700, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
> I still have no clue on why "country/province" information is
> technically needed. Sure, "language" is needed, and so does "time zone",
> "keyboard", etc. But for what is "country"?

It's used for:

- collation order of text
- currency symbols and formatting
- numeric formatting characteristics (thousands separator, decimal point)
- characteristics of time representation (24/12h, : vs ., ...)
- paper size (in theory)

any or all of which can vary per country, even among countries which use
the same language.

It also can be used to support separate regional translations where
dialects are sufficiently different to warrant it, and can also
distinguish between locales which use different character sets to
represent the same language.

Oh, and it's also a good heuristic for guessing the user's timezone,
keyboard, *and* mirror of choice, making it much more likely that we can
present the correct default option to the user for each of these
selections.

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Re: partman (was Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive)

[Nathanael Nerode]

Joey Hess wrote:

> I tried the new partman, and it works great. Wow, that's a lot of work!
> My only quibble is with the use of the term Wizard, as in "Use the
> Wizard to partition". I don't think wizard is a proper noun, so should
> not be capitalised, and I don't see how this is better than the old
> "Automatically partition". It assumes that the user is familiar with
> windows wizard-type things (and doesn't hate them ;-), and seems overly
> cute to me.

Seconded.  "Automatically partition" is better.

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Re: Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosingcountry?

[Tetralet]

Herbert Xu wrote:

> Well for the same reason most of thel mainland Chinese people will
> disagree with showing just Taiwan instead of the longer version.
> In fact, you'll probably get Debian banned by the Chinese government
> should they get wind of this fact.

In the "Regional and Language Options" in Microsoft Windows XP's "Control Panel",
"Chinese (Taiwan)" is in the list of "Standards and formats"
And "Taiwan" is in the list of "Location".

Was Microsoft Windows XP banned by the China government?
Did mainland Chinese people refuse to use Microsoft Windows XP?



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Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive

[Martin Michlmayr]

* Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-04-06 23:41]:
> > It doesn't support acorn labels (acorn-fdisk does).  However, all
> > currently supported ARM subarches use msdos labels, so ARM is not
> > using partman.
> Oh-kay.  That's confusing.  Do you mean "so ARM is using partman"?

s/not/now/, sorry.  ARM is using partman now.
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Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive

[Nathanael Nerode]

Anton Zinoviev wrote:

> On  5.IV.2004 at 01:08 Thiemo Seufer wrote:
>>
>> > Eeeww... why was this?  I remember partman/libparted had trouble
>> > making DVH disklabels... was that the only reason for MIPS?
> 
> There is also a problem with the numbering of the partitions (#238838,
> #220990).  I have fixed it in partman (though I am holding my commits
> because of the string freeze).  I suppose that in the next release of
> the installer partconf will not be necessary on mips, but partitioner
> will.
That would definitely be an improvement, anyway.  If we can kill partconf,
keeping partioner isn't quite so bad.

> 
>> > What's the problem for arm?
>> 
>> Lack of support for several arm subarch partitioning schemes.
> 
> So far I (and probably the maintainers of parted also) have no info
> about this. :-(
> 
> Anton Zinoviev

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Re: Technically: What is the point to identity to country/province, anyway?

[Nathanael Nerode]

Alexander Winston wrote:

> On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 09:26 +0700, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> I still have no clue on why "country/province" information is
>> technically needed. Sure, "language" is needed, and so does "time zone",
>> "keyboard", etc. But for what is "country"?
> 
> It is probably for distinguishing the different dialects of languages.
> For example, there is American English, Australian English, British
> English, Canadian English, Chinese English, Danish English, Indian
> English, Irish English, Motswana English, New Zealand English,
> Philippine English, Singapore English, South African English, and
> Zimbabwean English. That, at least, is according to GNU libc. :)

Yeah, and as I said elsewhere, "Country" is a stupid way to distinguish. If
we're really getting into dialects, there's *way* more than that, and they
*don't* follow country borders.  Unfortunately, we're kind of stuck with it
at the moment, because we'd have to change a *lot* of programs.

We can't just rename it "Dialect", because "Country" is also used for the
choice of currency symbol, separators in numbers, etc.  Bleh.  :-)

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Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive

[Nathanael Nerode]

Martin Michlmayr wrote:

> * Anton Zinoviev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-04-05 15:31]:
>> > Lack of support for several arm subarch partitioning schemes.
>> 
>> So far I (and probably the maintainers of parted also) have no info
>> about this. :-(
> 
> It doesn't support acorn labels (acorn-fdisk does).  However, all
> currently supported ARM subarches use msdos labels, so ARM is not
> using partman.
Oh-kay.  That's confusing.  Do you mean "so ARM is using partman"?

> It would be good to be able to choose between partman and partconf by
> subarchitecture.

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Re: Technically: What is the point to identity to country/province, anyway?

[Alexander Winston]

On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 09:26 +0700, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> I still have no clue on why "country/province" information is
> technically needed. Sure, "language" is needed, and so does "time zone",
> "keyboard", etc. But for what is "country"?

It is probably for distinguishing the different dialects of languages.
For example, there is American English, Australian English, British
English, Canadian English, Chinese English, Danish English, Indian
English, Irish English, Motswana English, New Zealand English,
Philippine English, Singapore English, South African English, and
Zimbabwean English. That, at least, is according to GNU libc. :)


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Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

[Nathanael Nerode]

Joey Hess wrote:

> I suggest that anyone who has an idea on the matter, tell it to
> Christian and Alastair.

Well, I did suggest buying a National Geographic Atlas and using the names
on that.

I also suggested using the long names for *everywhere*.


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Re: Sugested string change in s390/netdevice

[Nathanael Nerode]

Eddy Petrisor wrote:

> Hello Bastian,
> 
> I am Eddy Petrisor, translator for Romaian language.
> 
> I have come across the following string in s390/netdevice:
> 
> [...] This parameter is required
> for cards with microcode level 2.10 or later or when you want to share a
> card.
Actually, it should probably say:

This parameter is required for cards with microcode level 2.10 or later, and
is also required if you want to share a card (even a card with older
microcode).

*cough*

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Technically: What is the point to identity to country/province, anyway?

[Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim]

Hi:

I still have no clue on why "country/province" information is
technically needed. Sure, "language" is needed, and so does "time zone",
"keyboard", etc. But for what is "country"?

regrets,

P.S. How about to add "Sovereign Republic of Rahmat Samik-Ibrahim",
 a 120 sqm (ca 1200 sqft) country somewhere in South East Asia :)?

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Re: Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

[Tetralet]

> As long as this iso-3166 translation in zh_TW is incomplete,
> you will be presented with the English name list...
> which you don't like, when choosing zh_TW.
> 
> So, go ahead and finish the zh_TW translation of iso_3166. 

I'm very willing to do it.

But...


> For sure,
> people using English will still see the name you don't like.
> Some, probably of Chinese (or probably Taiwanese) origin,
> will probably even complain about this.
> We will point them to
> http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/10faq/frequently-asked-questions.html#QS03.

That's the problem.
Maybe we are too self-will,
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Re: Location list proposal [was: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?]

[Jiun-jie Huang]

Anthony Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> As pointed out clearly in the "common xml locale
> repository" paper[1] from ICU, Page 3:
>
> "Language and Territory codes follow ISO-639 and
> ISO-3166 respectively".
[stuff deleted]
> Look, the standard is *international* and should be
> followed.
>
> btw: to people from China Taiwan who start the
> needless flame war here: check the source of locale
> data from ICU[2], why won't you go against IBM, but
> against Debian here? Just because you saw it and don't
> like it?

As a Unix programmer, who just finished reading Eric Raymond, "The Art
of Unix Programming," I agree that we should conform to standards, for
technical issues. But for the name of a location, it is certainly not
technical issue. I'll try to be neutral in this post, even I come from
Taiwan.

Taiwan is not a member of ISO; this is not because we don't want to
participate, it's because strong political pressure from China. So we
don't have a chance to speak up in the *international*
organization. That's why we ask Debian to reconsider the decision to
conform to the ISO-3166 standard.

People in China don't like to call Taiwan a country. Especially, when
they confront with this issue, they tend to be irrational.

People in Taiwan don't like to be called "province of China" because
it's not the fact. Of course, we don't want to irritate people in
China. So we accept to be called "Taiwan," a more neutral name. 

I suggest that we use "Choose country/location/area" on the menu, and
provide an item "Taiwan." In this way, people can freely read in any
combination of "country/location/area" and "Taiwan." It's more
flexible and neutral. We don't want to fight against anybody in the
open source community; we just want to be respected. Any decision made
by Debian should be respected, but we also should speak up for us if
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Error when installing kernel

[Mike Chandler]

/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/fd does not exist,  mkinitrd failed

I got this error after compiling and then trying to install a new kernel 
(2.6.4) on a working Debian Sid system.
I had previously (and successfully) done this.
Now I cannot boot, and trying to install ANY kernel, results in the same error 
message.

I would really appreciate some pointers.
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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Miles Bader]

Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Agreed. As anyone _can_ change any code in Debian, _we_ should stick as a
> > default to the names that the people who it applies to like, and not to
> > names who others have fixed on them.
> 
> Excellent!  Now, how's that Unicode installer coming along?

As Joey pointed out, the language used is usually orthogonal to whether
a name is acceptable to the country or not (and the former can be
catered to by existing i18n mechanisms).

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Miles Bader]

Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > These names are[3] those chosen by the respective countries -- _that_ is
> > something I thing ought to be respected (so if Taiwan were to suddenly
> > start calling itself [in English] `Province of China Taiwan', well then
> > the argument is over I guess :-).
> 
> Well, but we even don't name other countries like they call themself -
> but rather they are normally called within that country. (Well, at
> least I hope that we don't have "Federal Republic of Germany" in the
> installer list ;)

I suppose it's more accurate to say that the names used for most
countries are those that are at least _acceptable_ by the country's
people.

[Actually given the comma-prefix notation, it would be quite reasonable
to use "Germany, Federal Republic of" -- indeed it fits well -- but I'd
guess most germans probably don't care a great deal one way or another.]

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[John Hasler]

Erik Steffl writes:
> so you're going to call germany deutschland?

Is Deutschland being labeled "Germany" to appease a powerful neighbor
despite the objections of the inhabitants?

> that could make the list of countries quite incomprehensible for general
> public (different alphabets and all that).

Which is no doubt why the Germans, being reasonable people, are willing to
have their nation labeled "Germany".
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Re: English string in partman-target

[Nathanael Nerode]

> I am not a native english speaker, but somehow the use of "consists 
> of" does not really feel proper here...

It is, in fact, proper.  However, these two previously suggested alternatives 
are both better:

> "Partitioning a hard drive is the process of dividing it logically to 
> create..."

> "Partitioning a hard drive means logically dividing it..."


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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Erik Steffl]

Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
Hi Erik!

You wrote:


 and while we're at it - netherlands is really holland. 


No, it's not, actually.  Holland is only part of the Netherlands.
  well, yes. but: in slovakia the name for the country is holandsko 
(slovak spelling for holland). maybe it insults some people in 
netherlands but that's how it is. so for me it makes perfect sense to 
call that country holland, I didn't even knew it's called netherlands 
until I learned english...

  I am sure that is not the only example where the name of the country 
is confused or country has completely different names in different 
languages.

  so it makes sense to stick with _some_ standard. adjusting the names 
based on personal preference of one or another person (or group of 
people) doesn't make much sense - you're getting into issues that cannot 
be satisfactorily resolved.

	erik

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Erik Steffl]

Andreas Barth wrote:
* John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040405 04:55]:

Anthony Johnson writes:

Yes, you love living in China Taiwan. Will you stand on the other side
when you live in China mainland?


The people who live on the island call it Taiwan.  What's wrong with using
the name they choose?


Nothing. I consider it most appropriate if we use the name for any
country in the way the people itself prefer to call it (except of
course, if the name would be non-unique).
  so you're going to call germany deutschland? etc. that could make the 
list of countries quite incomprehensible for general public (different 
alphabets and all that).

	erik

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Bug#242495: Partial success with install on MegaRAID SCSI disks in i386

[Erik C.J. Laan]

Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: 20040331-hd-media from ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org

uname -a: Linux horse 2.4.25-1-386 AMD-K6 GNU/Linux # from memory
Date: 20040406
Method: hd-media, booted with loadlin from DOS, with
sage-i386-businesscard.iso, either dated
- 20040403 from http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing or
- 20040321 from
ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-i386/20040321/images/
Machine: Clone with ASUS motherboard
Processor: AMD K6-2 350MHz
Memory: 80 MB
Root Device: SCSI disk, /dev/sda2
Primary boot device: /dev/hda, also available /dev/hdb (2 IDE disks).
Root Size/partition table: 12,8 Gb, with 24,6MB /boot on /dev/sda1
Output of lspci: not captured
Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [0]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[E]
Save install-report:[E]
Reboot: [E]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:

First comment: The new installer is a BIG improvement!

I started the installer with loadlin from a DOS partition containing
multiple "sarge-i386-businesscard.iso" files, from multiple dates/sites,
kernels and initial ramdisks. When looking for the .iso's the installer
couldn't find it at first, because is was not in the root-directory of
any drive, which I beleive it should be. I then let it search all
drives/partitions. Because it would take a while, I went away, expecting
to be given the choice between all iso's found when the search had
finished. When I returned however the installer had already tried to
configure the network with DHCP, and asked me whether to retry, or
manually configure the network. So I don't know which iso it used, if any.
After configuring the network everything went smooth up until the point
at which I needed to specify the grub-boot device. I am not familiar
with grub, so I entered (hd3) to have it install the MBR on the SCSI
disk sda, assuming hd1 was the first IDE disk, hd2 en second, and hd3
the SCSI disk. I was meaning to disconnect the power to the IDE disks to
test whether it would boot from /dev/sda(2). Installing Grub gave a
fatal error: no such disk and I was shown the main-menu. I then retried
installing grub assuming it would re-ask me on which device. It didn't
however, and retried installing on (hd3).
Because I saw no way out it this I tried installing Lilo, but this
wouldn't let me enter any information, and completed the step without
any messages, but it seemed to do nothing.
I then tried saving the configuration/installation information to a 
floppy-disk, but this failed without writing to the floppy, and without 
any messages. In the third (or was if fourth?) console I could see the 
'floppy' module couldn't be found.
I then tried rebooting. The mbr on the first IDE disk was untouched,
because the machine booted as before the test-install. I tried using the
installation kernel and the installation ramdisk, but no SCSI disks
where detected because this kernel doesn't contain the 'megaraid' driver.
To see if a boot-block (grub or lilo) had been installed on the SCSI
disk I tried:
- booting with the IDE harddisks deleted from the BIOS.
- booting with the BIOS harddisk-bootorder changed to SCSI-IDE instead
of IDE-SCSI
- booting with the power connectors pulled from the IDE disks.
- booting with the power connectors pulled from all IDE devices.
All to no avail: the machine would not boot, and not give any messages
apart from the machine's BIOS startup-display.

After restarting the installation I could recover from this situation 
using the second virtual console with the following steps:
- manually loading modules for MegaRaid and SCSI disks (megaraid, 
scsi-mod and sd-mod).
- mount /target and /target/boot.
- manually loading modules for IDE-disks (ide-disk(?), ide-core(?) and 
ide-detect).
- mount the partition with loadlin on it on /mnt
- copy kernel and initrd from /target/boot to directory on /mnt.
- restart computer, and start loadlin with installed kernel and initrd.
This way I verified that had the kernel and initrd been available on 
/dev/sda I would have been able to continue the installation as I now 
did via these steps.

So the problems to be fixed are:
1) If installing Grub fails, re-ask the "Which boot device to install
the MBR on?" question so the user can correct any errors he/she made.
2) Have the lilo-install ask some questions to determine the 
configuration needed.
3) Don't silently fail on the lilo-installation.

Erik
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Bug#242489: can't find a keymap

[Joey Hess]

Package: kbd-chooser
Severity: important
Tags: d-i

d-i initrds built from unstable have a non-working kbd-chooser. It fails
after I choose PC-style from the first menu (medium priority). I see
this in the logs: kbd-chooser: cannot open fle

This image has compressed keymaps on it. Colin Watson also saw this
problem on powerpc. It was working yesterday, IIRC.

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Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.4.25
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US

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Bug#242438: installation-reports (PowerPC Installation)

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 08:02:33PM +0200, Javier Carranza wrote:
> Also an habitual handicap in debian installation on powerpc machines
> is yaboot (boot loader). It never works. I have always to download the
> original binaries and install them so it works fine.

Could you elaborate? In what way does the installed yaboot not work?

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Miles Bader]

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 05:42:00PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> Furthermore, doesn't Hong Kong use Traditional Chinese?  In this case,
> the issue of writing style is rather independent of the status of
> Taiwan.

Yup.  I wonder whether there's any pressure on them these days to change,
since ... you know.  [Interestingly I've heard that they're still used
reasonably often on the mainland, for things like signs &c.]

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Bug#242480: Install-report

[Svante Signell]

Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: sarge-i386-netinst.iso March 29 2004.
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/current

uname -a: Linux maltesbox 2.4.25-1-k7 #1 Tue Feb 24 14:24:28 EST 2004
i686 GNU/Linux

Date: April 3 2004
Method: Burnt the 100MB iso image to CD. Booted from this CD. Connected
after the initial install and base-config to my ISP via my (Debian)
gateway/firewall. No proxy was used.

Machine: Asus 
Processor: AMD Duron(tm) Processor stepping 01, 900 MHz
Memory: 256 MB
Root Device: IDE, Maxtor 4D040H2, ATA DISK drive
Root Size/partition table:  
Partition Table for /dev/hda
 
FirstLast
 # Type Sector   Sector   OffsetLength   Filesystem Type (ID) Flag
-- --- --- --- -- 

 1 Primary   020482874 6320482875 Linux (83) Boot
 2 Primary2048287540017914  019535040 Linux (83) None
 3 Primary4001791579087994  039070080 Linux (83) None
 4 Primary7908799580035829  0 947835 Linux swap (82) None

fstab:
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda4   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hda1   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/hda2   /usrext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda3   /home   ext3defaults0   2
#/dev/floppy/floppy autoro,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/hdc/cdrom  iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/hdd/cdrw   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0

Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133]
(rev 81)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South]
(rev 40)
00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1a)
00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1a)
00:07.4 Bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev
40)
00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686
AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
00:07.6 Communication controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Intel 537 [AC97
Modem] (rev 30)
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. ProSavage KM133 (rev 03)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:

- Overall the install was smooth. I have installed Debian on a few 
boxes now and this was easy. Nice with the Debian boot logo :)

- When installing the base system one should be able to back, not only
to go forward or quit. First the network did not work due to firewall
settings, and this caused problems. (I did not configure the network
at the initial install.) Maybe you should also be informed that you can
use the escape to another shell with  during the base-config
script run.

- Confusing menus for partitioning the HDD until I found out how it
worked.

- When replacing OSS audio modules with ALSA the old ones are still
loaded on subsequent boots, causing conflicts. Recently I found out
that the cause is the discover package. One should perhaps be informed
in some way (maybe during base-install) that in order to avoid loading
modules found at install time, you should edit the /etc/discover
file. This is a third way to load modules, in addition to the
/etc/modules and /etc/modules.conf files and was new for me.

Install logs and other status info is available in
/var/log/debian-installer/.
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Bug#242474: discover1: Initial Hungarian translation of Debian-specific bits

[VEROK Istvan]

Package: discover1
Severity: wishlist
Tags: l10n, patch

Translation of 11 strings into Hungarian (all concerning the automatic
handling by discover of CD-ROM symlinks and mount points).

Thanks,
Istvan
# Translators, if you are not familiar with the PO format, gettext
# documentation is worth reading, especially sections dedicated to
# this format, e.g. by running:
# info -n '(gettext)PO Files'
# info -n '(gettext)Header Entry'
# Some information specific to po-debconf are available at
# /usr/share/doc/po-debconf/README-trans
# or http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po-debconf/README-trans
# Developers do not need to manually edit POT or PO files.
# , fuzzy
# 
# 
msgid ""
msgstr ""
"Project-Id-Version: discover1\n"
"Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n"
"POT-Creation-Date: 2004-03-24 01:51-0500\n"
"PO-Revision-Date: 2004-04-06 23:23+0200\n"
"Last-Translator: VERÓK István <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\n"
"Language-Team: Hungarian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\n"
"MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"
"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit"

#. Type: boolean
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:4
msgid "Manage CD-ROM devices and mount points with discover?"
msgstr "A discover-rel kezeli a CD-ROM meghajtókat és azok csatlakoztatási 
pontjait?"

#. Type: boolean
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:4
msgid ""
"The \"discover\" program can automatically manage the /dev/cdrom* symbolic "
"links and device mount points, if you desire.  The available CD-ROM (and "
"compatible) devices are scanned at boot-time and these links and mount "
"points can be automatically updated."
msgstr ""
"Igény esetén a \"discover\" program automatikus kezelésére bízhatja a "
"/dev/cdrom* szimbolikus hivatkozásokat és eszközcsatlakoztatási pontokat. "
"Az elérhető CD-ROM meghajtók (és a velük kompatibilis eszközök) "
"rendszerindításkor felderíttetnek, a hivatkozások és csatlakoztatási pontok "
"pedig ennek megfelelően frissülnek."

#. Type: boolean
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:4
msgid ""
"If you enable this option, discover will link /dev/cdrom to /dev/cdrom0 for "
"convenience."
msgstr ""
"A kapcsoló bekapcsolása (kényelmi okokból) a /dev/cdrom hivatkozás "
"/dev/cdrom0-ra irányítását eredményezi."

#. Type: boolean
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:4
msgid ""
"If you don't want discover to manage the device symbolic links and mount "
"points for you, decline this option."
msgstr ""
"Ha az eszközök szimbolikus hivatkozásait és csatlakoztatási pontjait "
"nem adja a discover kezelésébe, kapcsolja ki a kapcsolót."

#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:19
msgid "Directory for CD-ROM device mount points:"
msgstr "CD-ROM eszközcsatlakoztási pontok könyvtára:"

#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:19
msgid ""
"Mounted filesystems accessible via CD-ROM (or compatible) devices can be "
"placed just about anywhere in the filesystem hierarchy, but it is common to "
"place them off the root directory, so that they are available as, e.g., \"/"
"cdrom0\", \"/cdrom1\", and so forth."
msgstr ""
"CD-ROM-okról (vagy azokkal kompatibilis eszközökről) felcsatlakoztatott "
"fájlrendszerek a fájlhierarchia gyakorlatilag tetszőleges pontján "
"elhelyezhetőek, de szokásos előfordulási helyük általában a "
"gyökérkönyvtárból nyílik, vagyis pl. \"/cdrom0\", \"/cdrom1\", stb. néven "
"érhetőek el."

#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:19
msgid ""
"Note that discover will link the \"cdrom\" mount point to the \"cdrom0\" "
"mount point for convenience."
msgstr ""
"Kényelmi okokból a discover a \"cdrom\" csatlakoztatási pontot a "
"\"cdrom0\" csatlakoztatási pontra irányítja."

#. Type: string
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:19
msgid ""
"Unless you have a need or preference for placing the CD-ROM mount points "
"elsewhere, the root directory (\"/\") is a good choice."
msgstr ""
"Hacsak nincs egyéb kényszerítő ok, a CD-ROM-ok csatlakoztatási pontjait "
"érdemes a gyökérkönyvtárban (\"/\") elhelyezni."

#. Type: note
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:33
msgid "Invalid path for mount point"
msgstr "Érvénytelen csatlakoztatási pont"

#. Type: note
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:33
msgid "You entered an invalid path as CD-ROM devices mount point."
msgstr ""
"Érvénytelen útvonalat adott meg CD-ROM "
"eszközcsatlakoztatási pontként."

#. Type: note
#. Description
#: ../discover1.templates:33
msgid ""
"The base filesystem mount point for CD-ROM drives must be an absolute path "
"(begin with \"/\") and must not be null.  If the path does not exist, it "
"will be created when needed."
msgstr ""
"A CD-ROM-meghajtók csatlakoztatási pontjainak alapja kötelezően egy "
"abszolút útvonal (vagyis \"/\"-rel kezdődik) és nem lehet üres. Ha a megadott "
"útvonal még nem létezik, akkor szükség esetén megtörténik a létrehozása."

Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Kirk Strauser]

At 2004-04-06T20:37:43Z, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Agreed. As anyone _can_ change any code in Debian, _we_ should stick as a
> default to the names that the people who it applies to like, and not to
> names who others have fixed on them.

Excellent!  Now, how's that Unicode installer coming along?
-- 
Kirk Strauser
In Googlis non est, ergo non est.


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Re: English string in partman-target

[Eddy Petrisor]

On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 23:34, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm not sure about the correctness of the following string in 
> partman-target:
> "Partitioning a hard drive consists of logically dividing it to create 
> the space needed to install your new Debian system.  You need to 
> choose which partition(s) will be used for the installation of 
> Debian."
> 
> I'm talking about the use of "consists of", shouldn't it be something 
> like:
> "Partitioning a hard drive implies logically dividing it ..."
> 
...mmm...is kind of induces some kind of "loss of user's control" ideea
> or 
> 
> "Partitioning a hard drive means logically dividing it..."
> 
my first choice
> or even
> 
> "Partitioning a hard drive is the process of dividing it logically to 
> create..."
> 
second (too formal)
> I am not a native english speaker, but somehow the use of "consists 
> of" does not really feel proper here...
> 
I feel the same way

> Anyway, just a thought...
> 
> Konstantinos
> 
Eddy


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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Andreas Barth]

* Branden Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040406 07:40]:
> If some governmental interest needs to bowdlerize our distribution to
> satisify their political sensibilities, they can go ahead.

Agreed. As anyone _can_ change any code in Debian, _we_ should stick
as a default to the names that the people who it applies to like, and
not to names who others have fixed on them.


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English string in partman-target

[Konstantinos Margaritis]

Hi,
I'm not sure about the correctness of the following string in 
partman-target:
"Partitioning a hard drive consists of logically dividing it to create 
the space needed to install your new Debian system.  You need to 
choose which partition(s) will be used for the installation of 
Debian."

I'm talking about the use of "consists of", shouldn't it be something 
like:
"Partitioning a hard drive implies logically dividing it ..."

or 

"Partitioning a hard drive means logically dividing it..."

or even

"Partitioning a hard drive is the process of dividing it logically to 
create..."

I am not a native english speaker, but somehow the use of "consists 
of" does not really feel proper here...

Anyway, just a thought...

Konstantinos


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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Andreas Barth]

* John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040405 04:55]:
> Anthony Johnson writes:
> > Yes, you love living in China Taiwan. Will you stand on the other side
> > when you live in China mainland?

> The people who live on the island call it Taiwan.  What's wrong with using
> the name they choose?

Nothing. I consider it most appropriate if we use the name for any
country in the way the people itself prefer to call it (except of
course, if the name would be non-unique).


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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Andreas Barth]

* Miles Bader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040406 07:25]:
> These names are[3] those chosen by the respective countries -- _that_ is
> something I thing ought to be respected (so if Taiwan were to suddenly
> start calling itself [in English] `Province of China Taiwan', well then
> the argument is over I guess :-).

Well, but we even don't name other countries like they call themself -
but rather they are normally called within that country. (Well, at
least I hope that we don't have "Federal Republic of Germany" in the
installer list ;)


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Bug#242453: Installation Report

[John Stilian]

Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Beta 3 - Testing
uname -a: N/A
Date: Tue Apr  6 15:05:55 EDT 2004
Method: Using Net Install ISO with the ftp.us.debian.org mirror
Machine: IBM Thinkpad 600E-RP1
Processor: Pentium II 366
Memory: 128 MiB PC66 SDRAM
Root Device: IBM Travelstar IDE
Root Size/partition table:
/dev/hda1 64MB Ext2FS /boot
/dev/hda2 2.5GB XFS /
/dev/hda3 512MB Swap
/dev/hda4 3.3GB XFS /home
Output of lspci:
Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:
Had to manually specif xircom_cb for IBM 10/100 EtherJet Cardbus Adapter 
(Part #08L3148).

Unable to complete installation due to errors configuring Exim. The root 
cause is that, for whatever reason, libgnutls10 is not being installed. 
Here are some snippets from the install logs (no mention of libgnutls10 
is made outside these snippets):

Setting up exim4-config (4.30-7) ...
hostname: Unknown host
Adding system-user for exim (v4)
/usr/sbin/exim4: error while loading shared libraries: libgnutls.so.10: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Invalid new configfile /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp
not installing /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp to
/var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated
dpkg: error processing exim4-config (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
 Setting up man-db (2.4.2-13) ...

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of exim4-daemon-light:
 exim4-daemon-light depends on libgnutls10 (>= 1.0.0-0); however:
   Package libgnutls10 is not installed.
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Sugested string change in s390/netdevice

[Eddy Petrisor]

Hello Bastian,

I am Eddy Petrisor, translator for Romaian language.

I have come across the following string in s390/netdevice:

[...] This parameter is required
for cards with microcode level 2.10 or later or when you want to share a
card.

I asked on irc (i'm a newbie with svn and the d-i tree) and (as the
changelog sugests) you are the person to talk to.

I feel that the string above would sound a lot better if is refrased
like :

This parameter is required when you want to share a
card or for cards with microcode level 2.10 or later.

What bothers me is the "or or" sequence...Moreover, if left on the
current form, the Romaian translation sounds bad, also, while the
inversed version doesn't.

I know we are in a string freeze, but can you change this?


Eddy



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Bug#242444: Installation Report: beta3 grub failed with xfs

[Alexander Schmehl]

Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: beta 3, from gluck
uname -a: Linux annuminas 2.6.4 #3 Sun Mar 28 14:35:45 CEST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
(has been replaced by a customized kernel, to lazy to boot ther original one)
Date: 28th of March, arround 4pm
Method:
> How did you install?
  I used the 100M netinst-iso dated from ... well... 15th of march I think

> What did you boot off?
  bootet from ide-cd SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B

> If network install, from where?
  Local mirror, synced on the same day

> Proxied?
  No.

Machine: Selfbuilded barebone SN41G2 from shuttle
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
Memory: 992 MB (1024MB - 32 MB shared video ram)
Root Device: IDE, Maxtor 4D060H3, connected to hda
Root Size/partition table:  
/dev/hda1   *   1 851 6835626   83  Linux
/dev/hda2 852747453199247+   5  Extended
/dev/hda5 852 973  979933+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hda6 974747452219251   83  Linux


Output of lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different version?) (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 ISA Bridge (rev a3)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation nForce2 SMBus (MCP) (rev a2)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet Controller (rev a1)
00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce MultiMedia audio [Via 
VT82C686B] (rev a2)
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler 
(MCP) (rev a1)
00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 External PCI Bridge (rev a3)
00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IDE (rev a2)
00:0d.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): nVidia Corporation nForce2 FireWire (IEEE 1394) 
Controller (rev a3)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (rev a2)
01:06.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
01:06.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] 
(rev a3)




Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O] could be better
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[E] failed with xfs
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:

All in all in worked very well. It even detecked that integraded network card
(of which I thought it would need a kernel patch to get it working).

I tried the automatic partitioning, with a seperate /home partition, worked
good, however sometimes I need quite some memory, so the ~500M swap partition
was to small. When I tried to make one partition smaller, I got a little bit
confused, that the installer created the the filesystems at once, at not after
I finished with my enlarged swap partition.


Well, and since I was in this menu, I tried xfs filesystems. I got the warning
that grub might get confused, since I later wanted to install lilo, I ignored
that warning. When the installer tried to install grub, it took quite some
time... after I didn't saw any activitie for 10 minutes and the progess bar
didn't advanced a single pixl, I rebootedand used used ext3 which worked
without any problems.


Keep up the good work,
  Alexander


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Bug#242438: installation-reports (PowerPC Installation)

[Javier Carranza]

Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 2004-04-01 
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/20040326/images/powerpc/netboot/
uname -a: Linux Orthanc 2.4.25-powerpc #1 ven avr 2 22:32:38 CEST 2004 ppc GNU/Linux
Date: 2004-04-01 17:45
Method: boot from testing-kernel-image (30492bf4098741ef01fb7bbecc1fbc63  vmlinux) && 
network install (from ftp.fi.debian.org) && no proxied

Machine: Apple PowerBook 12"
Processor: G4 867 Mhz
Memory: 256 MB DDR
Root Device: IDE TOSHIBA MK4021GAS
Root Size/partition table:

/dev/hda
#type name length   base ( size )  
system
/dev/hda1 Apple_partition_map Apple63 @ 1( 31.5k)  
Partition map
/dev/hda2  Apple_Driver43 Macintosh56 @ 64   ( 28.0k)  
Driver 4.3
/dev/hda3  Apple_Driver43 Macintosh56 @ 120  ( 28.0k)  
Driver 4.3
/dev/hda4Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh56 @ 176  ( 28.0k)  
Unknown
/dev/hda5Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh56 @ 232  ( 28.0k)  
Unknown
/dev/hda6  Apple_FWDriver Macintosh   512 @ 288  (256.0k)  
Unknown
/dev/hda7  Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh   512 @ 800  (256.0k)  
Unknown
/dev/hda8   Apple_Patches Patch Partition 512 @ 1312 (256.0k)  
Unknown
/dev/hda9   Apple_HFS Isengard   31780896 @ 1824 ( 15.2G)  HFS
/dev/hda10Apple_UNIX_SVR2 root   25165824 @ 31782720 ( 12.0G)  
Linux native
/dev/hda11Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap 524288 @ 56948544 (256.0M)  
Linux swap
/dev/hda12Apple_UNIX_SVR2 home8388608 @ 57472832 (  4.0G)  
Linux native
/dev/hda13Apple_UNIX_SVR2 stuff  12275712 @ 65861440 (  5.9G)  
Linux native
/dev/hda14Apple_Bootstrap bootstrap  2048 @ 78137152 (  1.0M)  
NewWorld bootblock
/dev/hda15 Apple_Free Extra   960 @ 78139200 (480.0k)  
Free space

Block size=512, Number of Blocks=78140160
DeviceType=0x0, DeviceId=0x0
Drivers-
1: @ 64 for 23, type=0x1
2: @ 120 for 36, type=0x
3: @ 176 for 21, type=0x701
4: @ 232 for 34, type=0xf8ff

Output of lspci:
:00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 AGP
:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go 64M] 
(rev a3)
:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc.: Unknown device 0035
:10:12.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94306 802.11g (rev 03)
:10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc.: Unknown device 003e
:10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc.: Unknown device 003f
:10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc.: Unknown device 003f
:10:1a.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc.: Unknown device 003f
:20:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc.: Unknown device 0036
:20:0d.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc.: Unknown device 003b
:20:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 FireWire (rev 81)
:20:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 GMAC (Sun GEM) (rev 
80)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[E]
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:

I don't know why I get so much connection breaks (only) during system base 
installation. This is the only one mistake I found. Also an habitual handicap in 
debian installation on powerpc machines is yaboot (boot loader). It never works. I 
have always to download the original binaries and install them so it works fine.

I congratulate all the members of the Debian Installer developer team, because they 
have gotten a great installer, very 


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Bug#228960: install: kernel-parameter noapic fixes prob

[Matt Yates]

Hi,

I tried installing using Beta3 on a Dell Inspiron 8000 and it freezes at 
95% with the "ide-floppy" error described previously.  I just tried 
using the "noapic" parameter and it does NOT fix the problem.  It still 
freezes at 95% on detecting hardware while displaying the message 
"skipping unavailable module ide-floppy...".

If anyone has a work around for this, please let me know.

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Re: no way to get out

[Eddy Petrisor]

On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 17:42, Douglas Maxwell wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 11:12:33PM +0300, Eddy Petrisor wrote:
> > I made it with firewall builder, as I found it more suitable for myself
> > as a beginer. Everything works ok for the users behind the firewall
> > (private class addresses) but from the server I can't access the
> > internet, nor the internal network...
> > 
> The rule you want would have your firewall object in the source
> column, "Any" in the destination column, and "Any" or whatever
> services you want to allow out from your server/firewall in the
> service column, with Action set to "Accept", of course.
I had a hunch it was that and already done that...

> If you want
> to browse the 'net from the firewall itself, make sure to allow DNS
> queries out from that box (there is a predefined group for that in
> fwbuilder).
> 
What version of fwbuider do you use? I have 1.0.0-2, and I can't find
any DNS  no, wait! dns tcp, right? what if I leave firewall:source
dest:any port:any accept , and the next, src:any  dest:fw port:any deny?

my fw is not a DNS, just a gateway..
> 
> Using the firewall object itself in the source column with "Any" in
> the destination column will allow traffic originating on your
> firewall to go anywhere, internal or out to the Internet. If you
> wanted to restrict traffic based on interface, you would have to use
> the interface object in the source column.
> 
again, what version? I can't find any interface object, but hosts (I got
the ideea, but they could have made it cleaerer, luckly they got the
ideea right by now, as I see on their site and you statement...)

> BTW, connections originating from the firewall traverse iptable's
> OUPUT chain.
> 
I see there are differences again, but I got the point.
(for me firewall-> iterfaces tab->policy attached to interface..)

> HTH,
> 
> Doug
> 
Thanks,

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Florian Weimer]

Miles Bader wrote:

> I'm not sure what this has to do with the original question, but the
> simplified chinese characters used in the PRC can look _very_ different
> from the traditional forms used in Taiwan (anyway, it's not accurate to
> say the difference is `close to bold-versus-normal').

It's even quite obvious when you pick the right examples.

Furthermore, doesn't Hong Kong use Traditional Chinese?  In this case,
the issue of writing style is rather independent of the status of
Taiwan.

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Bug#242375: installation-reports

[Joey Hess]

Saku Seppälä wrote:
> First the in the manual partitioning section of the installer
> "Finish partitioning and write changes to disk" is translated
> "Keskeytä osioiden teko (älä tallenna muutoksia)"
> which means "Interrupt partitioning (don't save changes)" .
> It should be translated as
> "Lopeta osioiden muokkaus ja tallenna muutokset".

I think that this is already fixed, the current translation is
"Lopeta osioiden teko ja talleta muutokset levylle"

> Secondly the configuration of apt does not work.
> The reason is that the name of the entry in the installation menu is
> "Tee apt:n asetukset". Because in the menu-mapping file the display text
> and the corresponding configuration script file are separated with
> ":", the script file name does not get recognized correctly.

Thank you for tracking this down. This will be fixed by making the next
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Bug#242417: debian-installer installation report

[Ylä-Anttila Tuukka Salu Santeri]

Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: 4.4.2004 
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta3/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
uname -a: No shell prompt... (installation failed)
Date: 6.4.2004 18:30
Method: CD install, booted off the CD

Machine: ICL MikroMikko ErgoPro desktop machine
Processor: Intel Pentium MMX 200MHz
Memory: 32MB SIMM
Root Device: Seagate (Medalist?) 2GB IDE hard disk
Root Size/partition table: Nothing yet
Output of lspci: No installation yet

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[X]
Configure network HW:   [X]
Config network: [X]
Detect CD:  [E]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

The system booted off the CD fine and the installer started, but the installer can't 
mount the CD. It tries to mount it (the cdrom drive is active, LED blinking) but just 
says "Failed to find and mount a Debian CD-ROM". When trying to mount it manually from 
a console, I get this:

~ # mount /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /cdrom
mount: /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: Mounting /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 on /cdrom failed: Not a directory

Also, I get the following error messages (multiple times) to the console on alt-f4:

Apr  6 19:01:00 (none) syslog.warn klogd: hdc: tray open
Apr  6 19:01:00 (none) syslog.warn klogd: end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), 
sector 0
Apr  6 19:01:02 (none) syslog.err klogd: cramfs: wrong magic
Apr  6 19:01:06 (none) syslog.warn klogd: ISOFS: unable to read i-node block

There's nothing wrong with the CD medium (I just burned it and the system booted off 
it just fine). I don't know the brand of the CD-ROM drive, but I can open the 
machine's case and check it out if you're interested... If you want to know more, get 
back to me.

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Re: [l10n] New partman strings in Debian Installer

[Stefano Canepa]

Christian Perrier disse:
> Anton commited a lot of changes to several partman packages.
>
> This induces lots of new strings and some changes to existing
> strings
>
> One major change was the addition of a quite verbose help screen as
> well as several informative screens or progress bars...
>
> Translators may start to work on these BUT be aware that  they are
> likely to be changed, because English needs polishing probably.
>
> Joey, or others native speakers, could you please review these as soon
> as possible, for giving translators some time to go back to 100%?

I'll start to translate ASAP but I prefer to do the work once starting
from good english. :)

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Re: Changing the wording of countrychooser main question

[Steve Langasek]

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 08:55:39AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting Dan Jacobson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > > "Choose a country, territory or area:"

> > How about just one of
> > "Choose a territory:" or
> > "Choose an area:" or
> > "Choose a region:"?

> No, because about 30 translators already translated the above which was
> changed several days ago...:-)

> And also, because there will certainly be argument that "THIS" is not
> a terriritory or THAT is not a region of THIS AGAIN is not an area.

I was impressed by the reported W2K3 wording, which is apparently
"Choose a location", sidestepping this issue altogether.

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Re: Removing boot loaders from debootstrap?

[Anthony Towns]

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 02:12:03PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> debootstrap installs delo (the DECstation boot loader) on all mipsel
> systems, even though only DECstations need it.  I seem to recall a
> discussion about removing all boot loaders from debootstrap since it's
> d-i's task to install them.  What was the conclusion of this discussion?

Whatever d-i needs is basically fine.

Cheers,
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Bug#242391: discover1-data: Fails to detect Intel Corp. 82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller

[Matthew Garrett]

Package: discover1-data
Severity: wishlist

PCI id 8086:1077 should use the e1000 driver

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[Martin Michlmayr]

debootstrap installs delo (the DECstation boot loader) on all mipsel
systems, even though only DECstations need it.  I seem to recall a
discussion about removing all boot loaders from debootstrap since it's
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Processed: Keep serial port hangs open until verified by reporters

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Re: netboot image - sarge - sparc64

[Alexey Nezhdanov]

В сообщении от 6 Апрель 2004 19:15 Gerald Leier написал(a):
> hi folks,
>
> i had no luck in booting usparcII systems (e250,e450,small sparc station)
> with the provided boot.img. the kernel quits booting with the message:
>
> the bootimage is:
> http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-sparc/current/im
>ages/sparc64/netboot/boot.img
>
>
> here is some snipplets from the cosnole output:
>
> Warning: unable to open an initial console.
> Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
> Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
> Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
>  Press L1-A to return to the boot prom
>
>
> well. the woody netboot just works fine...upgrading to sarge leads to a
> halfusable system when rebooted (root fs ro mounted, some daemons not
> starting) but thats all easy to fix. so thats the (icky) way i install
> sarge on sparcs now.

Hello. I have just the same problem - can't install debian on sun blade 2000.
But in my case I can not do it with any image that I have found. All that I 
got is 
> Warning: unable to open an initial console.
as the last message after which the whole thing hangs.
And yes - I'm getting the same
> Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
> Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
> Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
>  Press L1-A to return to the boot prom
on official d-i beta3 tftp image.

Gerald probably you can try the
http://www.phunnypharm.org/pub/for/sparc-folks/disks-sparc/current/sparc64/tftpboot.img
image since it doesn't attempting to kill init. May be you will have more luck 
with it.
BTW - please send me an URL of image that boots fine on your machine (If it 
will be woody image - well I can live with it).

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Bug#242385: won't boot on sparc64: illegal instruction

[Joost van Baal]

Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: 2004-03-15, beta 3
uname -a: Linux version 2.4.24 on sparc64
Date: 2004-04-06 12:30 +0200
Method: boot from CD, sarge-sparc-netinst.iso
Machine: Sun Ultra 10
Processor: TI UltraSparc IIi
Memory: 128 MB
Root Device: IDE
Root Size/partition table:
Output of lspci:
 00:00.0 Host bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Ultra IIi
 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Simba Advanced PCI Bridge (rev 11)
 00:01.1 PCI bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Simba Advanced PCI Bridge (rev 11)
 01:01.0 Bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. EBUS (rev 01)
 01:01.1 Ethernet controller: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Happy Meal (rev 01)
 01:02.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage I/II 215GT [Mach64 
GT] (rev 9a)
 01:03.0 IDE interface: CMD Technology Inc PCI0646 (rev 03)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[E]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

Pressing OK on the first promp results in:

 Loaded kernel version 2.4.24
 Loading initial ramdisk (1118864 bytes at 0x40C0)...
 Illegal Instruction
 ok

I have no experience in debugging this kind of problems.  I might be
able to give more data, if I'm told how to get them.

BTW: I have just installed the box with the woody 3.0r2 installer, this
works fine.

Thanks for working on the Debian installer!

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netboot image - sarge - sparc64

[Gerald Leier]

hi folks,

i had no luck in booting usparcII systems (e250,e450,small sparc station)
with the provided boot.img. the kernel quits booting with the message:

the bootimage is:
http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-sparc/current/images/sparc64/netboot/boot.img


here is some snipplets from the cosnole output:

Warning: unable to open an initial console.
Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
 Press L1-A to return to the boot prom


well. the woody netboot just works fine...upgrading to sarge leads to a
halfusable system when rebooted (root fs ro mounted, some daemons not starting)
but thats all easy to fix. so thats the (icky) way i install sarge on sparcs now.

what do i have to change on the boot.img to get sarge up and running
from the start ?

thanks for any hints
 gerald


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Bug#229736: acknowledged by developer (Problem is solved)

[Stephen Frost]

* Debian Bug Tracking System ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> This was not an NMU, but a real upload from the maintainers CVS.

Uh, this bug doesn't appear to actually be fixed by the upload which was
done.  Somehow this bug got merged with a bug about ignoring the
disable/enable stuff.  This bug was about discover hanging when trying
to close the serial port and nothing in the changelog that was uploaded
indicates that's been fixed.

This bug should probably be reopened/unmerged from the disable/enable
issues.

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Bas Zoetekouw]

Hi Erik!

You wrote:

>   and while we're at it - netherlands is really holland. 

No, it's not, actually.  Holland is only part of the Netherlands.

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Bug#242375: installation-reports

[Saku Seppälä]

Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: beta 3, 5.4.2004 
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta3/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.25-1-686 #1 Tue Feb 24 10:55:59 EST 2004 i686 
GNU/Linux
Date: 5.4.2004 13:00
Method: installation from debian installer beta3 cd and apt from 
ftp.fi.debian.org

Machine: Intel 440BX
Processor: 600 Mhz Pentium3
Memory: 128Mb
Root Device: IDE
Root Size/partition table:
Disk /dev/hda: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4998 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *   1 510 4096543+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda2 5114998360498605  Extended
/dev/hda5 5111020 4096543+   6  FAT16
/dev/hda6   *10211036  128488+  83  Linux
/dev/hda710371067  248976   83  Linux
/dev/hda810681675 4883728+  83  Linux
Output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge 
(rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge 
(rev 03)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c900B-Combo [Etherlink XL 
Combo] (rev 04)
00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP 
(rev 04)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [E]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [E]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:

My installation problems exist only in the finnish language translation
of the installation CD. The US English installation went just fine.
First the in the manual partitioning section of the installer
"Finish partitioning and write changes to disk" is translated
"Keskeytä osioiden teko (älä tallenna muutoksia)"
which means "Interrupt partitioning (don't save changes)" .
It should be translated as
"Lopeta osioiden muokkaus ja tallenna muutokset".
Secondly the configuration of apt does not work.
The reason is that the name of the entry in the installation menu is
"Tee apt:n asetukset". Because in the menu-mapping file the display text
and the corresponding configuration script file are separated with
":", the script file name does not get recognized correctly.
solution:
change "Tee apt:n asetukset" to "Tee apt asetukset" in files:
config.dat
menu-mapping
After the corrections my installation was succesfull.

Great work, besides these small bugs the the beta3 installer
is a great improvement :).

Re: Location list proposal [was: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?]

[Frans Pop]

On Tuesday 06 April 2004 08:27, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 06:00:28PM -0700, Anthony Johnson wrote:
> > ICU's name list _is_ following ISO 3166, and so do
> > many other sources.
>
> What does that mean?  These lists are different, and ICU has a much less
> controversial wording.

Looks to me like they use ISO only for the _codes_ (two/three letters), I have 
not been able to find a reference that explains what they base the 
_descriptions_ for the codes on (very smart guys & gals :-).
(Except for the description of their decision making process, which looks 
quite sane to me.)


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Re: splitting root floppy by languages

[Christian Perrier]

Quoting Anton Zinoviev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Languages with Latin alphabet: 1 floppy
> Languages with hieroglyphic alphabet: 1 floppy
> Languages with other alphabet: 1 floppy

Hmm, Anton, only Ancient Egyptian falls into the 2nd category..:-)

I guess you wanted to mention ideograms alphabet, so Japanese,
Traditional and Simplified Chinese and Korean


> 
> At present "other alphabet" means Arabic, Bulgarian, Greek, Hebrew,
> Russian and Ukrainian.  Other possible candidates are Armenian,
> Bashkir, Belarusian, Georgian, Kazakh, Macedonian, Mongolian and Thai.

After reading Tomohiro Kubota contribution document to i18n, which
every i18n contributor should have read once, I feel that Thai
probably falls better in the 2nd category.



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Re: Changing the wording of countrychooser main question

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Quoting Dan Jacobson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > "Choose a country, territory or area:"
> 
> How about just one of
> "Choose a territory:" or
> "Choose an area:" or
> "Choose a region:"?

No, because about 30 translators already translated the above which was
changed several days ago...:-)

And also, because there will certainly be argument that "THIS" is not
a terriritory or THAT is not a region of THIS AGAIN is not an area.



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[l10n] New partman strings in Debian Installer

[Christian Perrier]

Anton commited a lot of changes to several partman packages.

This induces lots of new strings and some changes to existing
strings

One major change was the addition of a quite verbose help screen as
well as several informative screens or progress bars...

Translators may start to work on these BUT be aware that  they are
likely to be changed, because English needs polishing probably.

Joey, or others native speakers, could you please review these as soon
as possible, for giving translators some time to go back to 100%?


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RE: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

[Julian Mehnle]

Branden Robinson wrote:
> We have nothing to gain by taking sides political conflicts like this.
> [...]
> If some governmental interest needs to bowdlerize our distribution to
> satisify their political sensibilities, they can go ahead.

IMO, this is really not about taking sides, and I think it's not about
bowdlerization either.  It's about providing a list of countries
(technically speaking, localities on the country level that officially
have distinct names) for the user to choose his own one.  It helps neither
the Chinese nor the Taiwanese in any way we should care about to call
Taiwan "Taiwan, Province of China" in that list, it just makes the name
longer and bulkier.

It's not as if human users needed an accurate transcription of the ISO
country names list.


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Bug#229736: marked as done (discover hangs on closing serial port)

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INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version:
Beta2; 18-Jan-2004;

http://people.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/beta2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso

uname -a: N/A, didn't get that far
Date: 19-Jan-2004
Method:
Booted off the netinst ISO and installed from it.

Machine: Sony Vaio PCG-FRV28
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 - 2.8Ghz
Memory: 512MB
Root Device: IDE, single disk on primary controller (/dev/hda)
Root Size/partition table:
(From memory):
/dev/hda1 - 5G 'recovery'
/dev/hda2 - 10G NTFS (WinXP)
/dev/hda3 - 128MB root
/dev/hda4 - Extended
  /dev/hda5 - 10G NTFS (WinXP)
  /dev/hda6 - 3G /usr
  /dev/hda7 - 1G /var
  /dev/hda8 - 5G /home

Output of lspci:
Unfortunately I havn't got it, the install didn't make it far
enough to where I could get it off using the network.  If I can
run it from the install CD I could hand copy it, if necessary.

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O] - only eth0 :(
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [E]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

Alright, first a few bitches:
- Waiting for DHCP to time out sucked, I know it won't work,
  eth0 isn't even connected to anything
- Couldn't configure my wireless card (eth1), though it did
  appear to be detected and looked operational
- bash on con2, for whatever reason, stops responding if you hit
  'alt-1' by accident (like when going for alt-f1 to get back to
  the installation), this is *very* annoying since you have to
  restart the install to get a shell to work in, it'd be nice to
  have a way to forcibly reset the shell or bring up another one
  or something
- Every other step it appears to 'detect hardware' or whatever,
  what's with that?  I don't have a floppy on the machine but
  every time it takes a few seconds to try and load it.

Now, the big problems:
- disco

Bug#221594: marked as done (init script bug - '--disable=XXX' is not working properly)

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Package: discover
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Severity: normal
Tags: patch

I changed the default config not to load the lp.o module by:
20c20
< boot all
---
> boot all --disable=parallel

But the module is loaded anyway - when discover is called to get the
cdrom device list. 

simple fix:
$ diff discover.old discover.works
131c131
< for CDROM in $(discover --device cdrom)
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> for CDROM in $(discover --device cdrom $ARGUMENTS)

greetings,
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-- System Information:
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Versions of packages discover depends on:
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Package: discover
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On this machine discover pauses for 30 seconds in serial port 
detection (according to strace, /dev/ttyS1, may be the infrared
port) before timing out.  This despite the lines in /etc/discover.conf

:; grep serial /etc/discover.conf 
# The parallel and serial scans cause problems on some machines too:
disable parallel,serial

(which are unchanged from the default configuration).  As far as I 
can tell from strace, discover completely ignores the presence
of that file - despite the manual page

This is marked 'important' because it causes discover not to finish 
installation on this machine.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux noetbook.telent.net 2.4.21 #5 Thu Jun 19 20:10:29 BST 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C

Versions of packages discover depends on:
ii  ash   0.3.8-38   NetBSD /bin/sh
ii  debconf   1.2.35 Debian configuration management sy
ii  libc6 2.3.2-6GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libdiscover1  1.5-1.4.1  hardware identification library

-- debconf information:
* discover/manage_cdrom_devices: false
  discover/cdrom_base_mountpoint: /
  discover/cdrom_base_mountpoint_error: 


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Subject: xserver-xfree86: upgrade fails because discover hangs indefinitely [the first 
time?]
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Package: xserver-xfree86
Version: 4.2.1-12
Severity: normal

[Note that as I mention below, re-running the upgrade (after killing
discover the first time) succeeds.]

Doing an apt-get upgrade (of -11 to -12.1):

Preparing to replace xserver-xfree86 4.2.1-11 (using 
.../xserver-xfree86_4.2.1-12.1_i386.deb) ...

It hung here.  pstree -pl shows:

| 
|-sshd(21018)---bash(21019)---apt-get(21059)---dpkg(26667)---frontend(27104)---config(27110)---config(27121)---config(27125)---discover(27126)

strace on the discover process shows:

maneki-neko$ sudo strace -p 27126
Process 27126 attached - interrupt to quit
read(4,  
Process 27126 detached

lsof on that process then shows:

COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICESIZE NODE NAME
discover 27126 root  cwdDIR3,340962 /
discover 27126 root  rtdDIR3,340962 /
discover 27126 root  txtREG3,3   10556   503997 /sbin/discover
discover 27126 root  memREG3,3   92174   227681 /lib/ld-2.3.2.so
discover 27126 root  memREG3,3   59244   520513 /usr/lib/libdiscover.so.1.0.0
discover 27126 root  memREG3,3  135604   228958 /lib/libm-2.3.2.so
discover 27126 root  memREG3,3 1230832   227858 /lib/libc-2.3.2.so
discover 27126 root0r  FIFO0,5 12385808 pipe
discover 27126 root1w  FIFO0,5 12385817 pipe
discover 27126 root2u   CHR  136,13 /dev/pts/1
discover 27126 root3w  FIFO0,5 12385809 pipe
discover 27126 root4u   CHR   4,65  1122678 /dev/ttyS1

ie. it is hanging trying to read from ttyS1.  This isn't symlinked
from anything in /dev, nor do I see it in any relevant config files in
/etc or /etc/X11 (it is in /etc/efax.rc, but it would surprise me if
that mattered.)

Re-running the upgrade (after killing discover out from under it,
causing that part of the upgrade to fail) did end up running to
completion, so that may make this hard to diagnose.

-- Package-specific info:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11DDR [GeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200 
DDR] (rev b2)
01:00.0 Class 0300: 10de:0111 (rev b2)

# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 X server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xfree86 package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xfree86
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following commands as root:
#
#   cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.custom
#   md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
 

Processed: Fixed in NMU of discover1 1.5-9

[Debian Bug Tracking System]

Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> tag 217788 + fixed
Bug#217788: discover ignores 'disable serial' in /etc/discover.conf
There were no tags set.
Bug#214790: discover: hangs while reading /dev/ttyS1
Bug#221594: init script bug - '--disable=XXX' is not working properly
Bug#229736: discover hangs on closing serial port
Bug#234812: xserver-xfree86: configure script hangs
Tags added: fixed

> quit
Stopping processing here.

Please contact me if you need assistance.

Debian bug tracking system administrator
(administrator, Debian Bugs database)


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