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netint - netinst (website)

2004-08-08 Thread Per Olofsson

It says:

 * netint CD image, with Debian base
   ^^
Should be:

 * netinst CD image, with Debian base

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Re: netint - netinst (website)

2004-08-08 Thread Matt Kraai

On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:39:55AM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote:
 It says:
 
  * netint CD image, with Debian base
^^
 Should be:
 
  * netinst CD image, with Debian base

Thanks for reporting this.  I've fixed it.

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Re: release status

Joey Hess wrote:
Joey Hess wrote:
 

http://dragon/~joey/blog/entry/d-i_retrospective-2004-08-07-19-46
   

I guess anyone not on my home network would prefer this url:
http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/d-i_retrospective-2004-08-07-19-46
 

A partcular concern I have is the reason for so many Apache packages. 
I've never discovered documentation as to why there are apache, 
apache-ssl and apache-perl, and how to decide which one(s) to install.

I set out to find whether the new manual provides that kind of 
information, or pointer to where it may be found.  In the course of my 
search I have discovered:
a)  http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.arm/apas03.html contains links to
a.1 The Multi Disk HOWTO 
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multi-Disk-HOWTO.html which is quite old and 
seriously out of date. I doubt whether any but the most frugal would be 
satisfied, for example, with the partitions sizes recommended on 
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multi-Disk-HOWTO-10.html#ss10.1. If nobody 
wants to take on the task of revising it, I suggest the link be dropped.
a.2 A link to Partitioning Strategies 
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Partition/partition-5.html#SUBMITTED 
which gets a 404.
b) No manuals for PowerPC or s390.


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Bug#262620: still in d-i rc1

2004-08-08 Thread Bart Martens

This bug is still in the release candidate 1 of the debian
installer released yesterday, 7 August 2004. That may be
normal, if this bug was considered not important enough,
I'm not sure.



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RC1 report installation failed

2004-08-08 Thread VETSEL Patrice

With this iso - 
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc1/sarge-i386-netinst.iso

All seem's to be fine except the ejection of the cd at the end.
After a reboot no more installation/configuration-screen appeared.
I can enter with the root login with no password.
My keyboard is not the good (i'v choosen azerty/french)
Taskselect show me just 2 option to install
The b44 module is installed but the /etc/network/interfaces is empty 
(i'v configured my netcard with IP static), and so i can't launch pppoeconf.
cya

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Bug#264348: Test

2004-08-08 Thread Burkhard Dunkel

Package: installation-reports
Version: 08.08.04

Debian-installer-version:
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/20040805/
uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.26-1-386 #2 Sat May 1 16:31:24 EST 2004 i686
Date: 8th August 04 20:00
Method: Booted from network install iso


Machine: Selfconfiguered P4
Processor: P4 2,8 GHz HT
Memory: 1 GB
Root Device: /dev/hda LG DVDRAM GSA-4040B
 /dev/sda ST316002 3A SATA Drive
 /dev/sdb ST316002 3A SATA Drive
  /dev/hdb LD CDRW   GSA-40

Mobo:  Asus P4C800-E Deluxe with 2 SATA Controller
  Intel ICH5 and
  Promise Onboard Raid Controller

Network: DLink 650 Rev. B
  Netgear MA111 802.11b Wireless USB Adapter

Root Size/partition table:

  table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where.
Output of lspci:

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[X]
Configure network HW:   [E]
Config network: [E]
Detect CD:  [X]
Load installer modules: [X]
Detect hard drives: [X]
Partition hard drives:  [E]
Create file systems:[E]
Mount partitions:   [E]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[E]
Reboot: [X]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

dmesg:


  00   0   01169
 0a 000 00  100   0   00000
 0b 080 00  100   0   002FF
 0c 001 01  000   0   01171
 0d 001 01  000   0   01179
 0e 001 01  000   0   01181
 0f 001 01  000   0   01189
 10 001 01  110   1   01191
 11 001 01  110   1   01191
 12 001 01  110   1   01199
 13 001 01  110   1   01191
 14 001 01  110   1   011A1
 15 000 00  100   0   00000
 16 001 01  110   1   01199
 17 001 01  110   1   011A1
IRQ to pin mappings:
IRQ0 - 0:2
IRQ1 - 0:1
IRQ3 - 0:3
IRQ4 - 0:4
IRQ5 - 0:18- 0:22
IRQ6 - 0:6
IRQ7 - 0:7
IRQ8 - 0:8
IRQ9 - 0:9
IRQ10 - 0:16- 0:17- 0:19
IRQ11 - 0:20- 0:23
IRQ12 - 0:12
IRQ13 - 0:13
IRQ14 - 0:14
IRQ15 - 0:15
 done.
Using local APIC timer interrupts.
calibrating APIC timer ...
. CPU clock speed is 2798.7884 MHz.
. host bus clock speed is 199.9132 MHz.
cpu: 0, clocks: 1999132, slice: 999566
CPU0T0:1999120,T1:999552,D:2,S:999566,C:1999132
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0031, last bus=2
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller 00:1f.1
Transparent bridge - Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge
PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX/ICH [8086/24d0] at 00:1f.0
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1
devfs: v1.12c (20020818) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
devfs: boot_options: 0x1
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT
SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
COMX: driver version 0.85 (C) 1995-1999 ITConsult-Pro Co. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 10240K size 1024 blocksize
Initializing Cryptographic API
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP: routing cache hash table of 8192 buckets, 64Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 262144 bind 65536)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 2848k freed
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Mounted devfs on /dev
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Trying to move old root to /initrd ... okay
Mounted devfs on /dev
Freeing unused kernel memory: 92k freed
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
vga16fb: initializing
vga16fb: mapped to 0xc00a
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30
fb0: VGA16 VGA frame buffer device
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 16:13:08 May  1 2004
usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:1d.0 to 64
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xeec0, IRQ 10
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:1d.1 to 64
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xef00, IRQ 10
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:1d.2 to 64
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xef20, IRQ 5
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports

Bug#264358: Debian Installer RC 1 on Alpha

2004-08-08 Thread Peter Van Loock

Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Release Candidate 1
uname -a: N/A
Date: Sun Aug  8 13:21:23 CEST 2004
Method: Booted from CD

Machine: Alpha Personal Workstation 500a
Processor: Alpha EV56
Memory: 256 MB
Root Device: SCSI, /dev/sda
Root Size/partition table: N/A
Output of lspci: N/A

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [E]

[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

-When selecting the Belgian keyboard layout, I got the error message 'An 
installation step failed: Select a keyboard layout'.
On /dev/tty4 I could read: 
keymap=be2-latin1 
Error executing gunzip -d -c /usr/share/keymaps/i386/azerty/be-latin1.kmap.gz

So, the installer wants to install be2-latin1, but he tries to unzip 
be-latin1.

I chose the American English keymap and the installer continued.

-After the FIRST reboot, aboot insists on booting from the cd-rom drive. I had 
to interrupt (with control-c) and force booting from sda. After a power-down, 
aboot correctly boots from sda.

-After the kernel is loaded, I see some normal messages on the console, until 
he tries to load the scsi-driver. This is a QLogic ISP1020.
From then on, I only get the following message repeated over and again until I 
powerdown the machine:

SCSI aborting command due to timeout: pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, 
Inquiry 00 00 00 ff 00

The installer did it's work almost perfect, but it is not possible to boot 
into a working machine.

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Bug#264364: Debian Installer RC 1 on PARISC

2004-08-08 Thread Peter Van Loock

Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Release Candidate 1
uname -a: N/A
Date: Sun Aug  8 14:49:42 CEST 2004
Method: Booted from CD

Machine: Hewlett Packard 9000-712/60
Processor: PA-Risc 1.1d - PA7100 LC (PCX-L)
Memory: 64 MB
Root Device: SCSI, /dev/sda
Root Size/partition table: N/A
Output of lspci: N/A

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [0]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]

[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

--When selecting the Belgian keyboard layout, I got the error message 'An 
installation step failed: Select a keyboard layout'.
On /dev/tty4 I could read:

do_page_fault pid=1065 command='kbd-chooser' type=15 address=0x0002
segmentation fault

(this is not the complete output)

I chose the 'American English' keyboard and the installer continued.

-When installing the base system, the installation seemed to stall on 
'Retrieving console-data'. I waited for more than half an hour, but the 
installer did not continue. On /dev/tty2, I could see that a 'cp'-command was 
running.
When I tried to manually copy the file (console-data) the shell also blocked.
I burned the image on another cd, but the problem persisted. I even tried 
another machine -- same problem.
I could mount the cd and copy the file without problems on my i386 machine.



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Bug#264367: Sarge BETA4 Installation Report

2004-08-08 Thread Mr. Spock

Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version:
 2004-05-05 BETA4 of sarge-i386-netinst.iso (109MB) from
 http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

uname -a:
Linux mirage 2.4.25-1-386 #2 Wed Apr 14 19:38:08 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux

Date: 2004-08-02 and 2004-08-03. See:
http://www.canopus22.demon.co.uk/words/journal.htm#2004-08-03

Method:
  How did you install?from floppy --- CDROM --- dial-up modem
  What did you boot off?   floppy (see below)
  If network install, from where?  ftp.uk.debian.org
  Proxied? No

Machine: AOpen AX6BC motherboard
http://english.aopen.com.tw/products/mb/AX6BC.htm

Processor: Pentium III 450MHz

Memory: 512MB

Root Device: Samsung Spinpoint P80 80GB IDE drive SP0812N
http://storagereview.com/articles/200401/20040112SP1614N_1.html
(limited by motherboard to 33GB running at ATA33 :-()

Root Size/partition table:

# sfdisk -l /dev/hda
Disk /dev/hda: 4111 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0
   Device Boot Start End   #cyls#blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *  0+  2   3- 24066   83  Linux
/dev/hda2  3  95  93 747022+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hda3 9641104015   32250487+   5  Extended
/dev/hda4  0   -   0  00  Empty
/dev/hda5 96+   41104015-  32250456   83  Linux


$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda1   /boot   ext2defaults0   2
/dev/hda2   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hda5   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/hdc/media/cdromiso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy   autorw,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/hdc/cdrom  iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0


Output of lspci:
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 30)
:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio 
Controller] (rev 03)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage IIC AGP (rev 7a)

Output of lspci -n:
:00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 03)
:00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 03)
:00:07.0 0601: 8086:7110 (rev 02)
:00:07.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01)
:00:07.2 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01)
:00:07.3 0680: 8086:7113 (rev 02)
:00:0a.0 0200: 10b7:9055 (rev 30)
:00:0d.0 0401: 1073:000d (rev 03)
:01:00.0 0300: 1002:475a (rev 7a)



Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[E]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:

The main problem was that the CDROM .iso image would not boot on any of
my three computers (AOpen AX6BC motherboard), giving the error:

ISOLINUX 2.04 2003-04-16
isolinux: Disk error 01, AX = 42 BA, 9F

I tried the CDROM on Mama's newer Duron 800MHz system, and it booted fine
(I resisted the temptation to install Sarge over her Windoze partition ;-)

Googling found some other mention of this error, and talk of floppy emulation:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2004/03/msg00017.html

My old Woody CD set all booted fine. (Why is there a difference?)
So I made some boot floppies from the CD, and these worked.

Once the process was started, it went like a dream.
I am amazed how simple it all was - my hat goes off to you guys,
getting something this complex to all work like clockwork!

I messed up the network config by typing in the wrong Gateway address.This
stalled the whole apt-get process, as I couldn't get online via my modem.
Then I was caught in loops for a while trying to go back and
'Enter The Hostname' in the hope it would let me reconfigure the network
options, but each time I could only enter the hostname; the other details
were assumed to be previously set. Asking friends yielded a few clues, and
I started searching around in my old Woody installation /etc backup files
to try and fathom out which file stores the IP numbers. Eventually I found

Re: Reply to request at Sun, 08 Aug 2004 09:26:51 -0500

2004-08-08 Thread Elijah Patel




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Re: Bug#264358: Debian Installer RC 1 on Alpha

2004-08-08 Thread Recai Oktas

* Peter Van Loock [2004-08-08 13:37:06+0200]
 -When selecting the Belgian keyboard layout, I got the error message 'An 
 installation step failed: Select a keyboard layout'.
 On /dev/tty4 I could read: 
 keymap=be2-latin1 
 Error executing gunzip -d -c /usr/share/keymaps/i386/azerty/be-latin1.kmap.gz
 
 So, the installer wants to install be2-latin1, but he tries to unzip 
 be-latin1.
 
 I chose the American English keymap and the installer continued.

This is bug #262620, a fix has already been submitted.

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Bug#264370: installation-reports: ssh and baseconfig-udeb don't work

2004-08-08 Thread Kenshi Muto

Package: installation-reports
Severity: normal
Version: Release Candidate 1

I tested with priority 'low' on i386.
Almost is good. Only two additional installer components have a problem.

- SSH mode is really cool, but unfortunately this won't work on i386.
  - ssh-keygen: error while loading shared libraries: libutil.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
  - ssh-keygen: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypt.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
  libc6-udeb has these files, but d-i build for i386 seems remove these files.
  I added these library files manually, but
  - SSH works, but d-i language is backed to English. If ssh setting preserves
current LANG, we continue to use native language.

- baseconfig-udeb causes screen crash, at least Japanese.
  This is maybe from calling termwrap. #244837 looks same.

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Bug#264375: apt-setup does no save choosen cdrom device anyhwere

2004-08-08 Thread Eduard Bloch

Package: base-config
Version: 2.40
Severity: normal

Hello,

as a Joe user, I tried to install Sarge having a small netinst CD in the
first drive and a few weeks old Sarge DVD in the second. In the second
phase with apt-setup, I was asked to specify the device where apt should
locate the media. Since the netinst CD was ejected (for reboot), I
specified /dev/hdb. But this setting is not stored anwhere! When the
sources are choosed, I see the prompt requesting me to insert the DVD
called Sarge... to the drive /cdrom. But it is not very
understandable (it should say: The drive that belongs to /path) AND it
does not know which CD has been choose. APT stupidly accepts /dev/cdrom
(hda) as /cdrom, though I have explicitely choosen to use /dev/sdb few
seconds ago. This is uncomfortable and may be confusing. Especially
since it is not clear at all how to EXIT from this prompt. There is no
word about Ctrl-C or any other solution, this interaction mode looks
just stupid and not userfriendly.

Regards,
Eduard.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.7
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8

Versions of packages base-config depends on:
ii  adduser 3.59 Add and remove users and groups
ii  apt 0.5.27   Advanced front-end for dpkg
ii  bsdutils1:2.12-7 Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite
ii  console-data2002.12.04dbs-44 Keymaps, fonts, charset maps, fall
ii  console-tools   1:0.2.3dbs-55Linux console and font utilities
ii  debconf 1.4.30   Debian configuration management sy
ii  debianutils 2.8.4Miscellaneous utilities specific t
ii  gettext-base0.14.1-5 GNU Internationalization utilities
ii  passwd  1:4.0.3-30   Change and administer password and

-- debconf information:
  tzconfig/choose_country_zone_single: true
  tzconfig/select_zone:
  tzconfig/verify_choices:
* apt-setup/another: false
  base-config/start-display-manager: true
  apt-setup/directory: /debian/
  base-config/menu/hostname:
* apt-setup/cd/another: false
  apt-setup/badedit:
  mirror/suite: testing
  apt-setup/baddir:
  base-config/menu/pkgsel:
  base-config/menu/apt-get:
  base-config/menu/timezone:
  apt-setup/hostname: ftp2.de.debian.org
  base-config/menu/pon:
* tzconfig/gmt: false
  apt-setup/title:
  mirror/http/proxy:
* apt-setup/contrib: true
  apt-setup/non-us-failed:
* tzconfig/geographic_area: Europe
  apt-setup/cd/dev: /dev/cdrom
* apt-setup/country: Germany
  apt-setup/uri_type: http
  apt-setup/not-mirror:
  base-config/retry-ppp: true
  apt-setup/security-updates-failed:
* apt-setup/cd/bad:
  base-config/menu/mta:
  tzconfig/choose_country_zone/BR: East
* base-config/intro:
* tzconfig/select_zone/Europe: Berlin
* apt-setup/security-updates: true
* base-config/run-tasksel: true
  mirror/distribution:
  base-config/title:
  base-config/menu/finish:
  base-config/stop-ppp: true
  debian-installer/language:
* apt-setup/mirror: ftp2.de.debian.org
  base-config/menu/apt-setup:
  base-config/menu/keyboard:
  tzconfig/title:
  debian-installer/country:
  base-config/install-problem: true
  tzconfig/change_timezone: false
* base-config/pkgsel: dselect - old package selector (experts only)
* apt-setup/non-free: true
* apt-setup/non-us: true
  base-config/menu/intro:
  base-config/menu/passwd:
  base-config/login:
  base-config/main-menu:
* base-config/run-dselect: false
  debian-installer/keymap:
  base-config/remove-pcmcia: true
  apt-setup/badsource:
* base-config/use-ppp: false
  tzconfig/choose_country_zone/US: Eastern
  base-config/get-hostname:
  tzconfig/choose_country_zone_multiple:
  tzconfig/choose_country_zone/CA: Eastern
* base-config/login-with-tty:
  base-config/menu/shell:
  base-config/invalid-hostname:


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Wouldn't it be better to ask the debconf question in base-config and
not install popcon at all then?

MfG
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no chrp partition in the powerpc iso

2004-08-08 Thread Rafael Ávila de Espíndola

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Who is responsible for building the iso images? debian-installer or debian-cd?
I notice the the rc1 image for the powerpc does not have a chrp partition. It 
is necessary to boot some p-series machines. For more detains see

http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/07/msg01824.html

Thanks.

Rafael
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my own debian-installer kernel

2004-08-08 Thread John Smith

Hi All,

as stated, I intend to build my own debian-installer (actually
netboot) compliant kernel. 

After reading 'debian-installer-manual:/usr/share/doc/\
debian-installer-manual/custom-kernel.txt.gz' I went looking for the
original kernel images used for the udebs, I stumbled in di's source 
over 
'debian-installer/packages/kernel/linux-kernel-di-i386/kernel-versions'
which states that the debian-installer build-depends on
'kernel-image-2.4.26-1-386, kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.26-1-386'.

Am I right in asuming that these packages are the base of the
kernels used in debian-installer?

Sincerely,

Jan.


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Bug#251986: Processed: Re: Popularity contest installed after saying No

[Goswin von Brederlow]
 Wouldn't it be better to ask the debconf question in base-config and
 not install popcon at all then?

Probably not.  I suspect it would require base-config to know even
more about the internal logic of popcon, and I believe that internal
information is better kept inside popcon.


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Opinion about sarge install

2004-08-08 Thread gafm


Hey folks,

Just some opinion about the sarge install process. I installed a july daily
build(I can't remember the exact one, but i think it was 25) on my computer
that has just the very common hardware(i386 arch) with the 2.6 kernel. I
consider myself a getting-to-intemediate-level user and here's some things you
might consider (or not :P):
1)X configuration should be more automatic. I couldn't get the x server to work
on the first try. So I just did some copy and paste for the config file I
backedup from my old Mandrake distro I replaced with debian. If  Mandrake can,
why can't debian get the configuration right with not much user intervention
and technical knowledge? These would make things much easier;
2) I select the desktop package collection and then later when I was trying to
install some software I found out make, gcc and other tools were not installed.
I think these tools should be installed on any install because unfortunetelly
not everything come on .deb packages from a organized  repository;
3) It should be a way to find out what's the best mirror. I had to try I few
until I found that was acceptably fast.
4) My TV card(PixelView Pro w/ FM) doesn't worked after the installation. And
still doesn't. OFFTOPIC: If anyone has any document or anything that can help
me get it to work, it would be very much appreciated.Those things on Google did
not work, I'll try harder to get this card to work and I have more free time :)

I think that's all,

Guilherme
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 He'd say Oi! to the punks, Oi! to the skins,
 Oi! to the world and everybody wins! No Doubt



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Bug#251986: Processed: Re: Popularity contest installed after saying No

2004-08-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow

Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [Goswin von Brederlow]
 Wouldn't it be better to ask the debconf question in base-config and
 not install popcon at all then?

 Probably not.  I suspect it would require base-config to know even
 more about the internal logic of popcon, and I believe that internal
 information is better kept inside popcon.

Install popcon? (yes/no)

Where is there internal knowledge?

If base-config asks if popcon should be installed or not then the
participate question can be removed again.  It would only be
installed if wanted.

MfG
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Bug#251986: Processed: Re: Popularity contest installed after saying No

[Goswin von Brederlow]
 Install popcon? (yes/no)

The question would have to explain more about the popcon question.  A
simple 'install package foo?' will not do it.

 Where is there internal knowledge?
 
 If base-config asks if popcon should be installed or not then the
 participate question can be removed again.  It would only be
 installed if wanted.

The popcon package is useful also if you don't participate, so there
must be a participate question in the package.  So the question about
installing popcon or not must also propagate the information into
popcon postinst that the user want to participate.  And that require
internal knowledge about the popcon package.

In short, I believe it is a bad idea to move the question into
base-config.


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Bug#264415: N/s

2004-08-08 Thread Gavin Lewis

Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/
cdimage-testing/daily/i386/20040807/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso
uname -a: Linux debinst 2.6.7-1-k7 #1 Thu Jul 8 06:45:35 EDT 2004 i686
  GNU/Linux
Date: August 8, 2004
Method: booted with linux26 debian-installer/framebuffer=false,
  because the framebuffer is quite slow under vmware.  I used a
  virtual CD-ROM connected to the ISO mentioned above.
Machine: VMware Workstation 4.5.2 build-8842 set to Other 2.6.x Linux
Processor: host Windows XP Professional SP1, 1 GHz AMD Athlon desktop
Memory: 64 MB
Root Device: BusLogic SCSI, emulated 4 GB hard drive
Root Size/partition table: Feel free to paste the full partition
  table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where.
Output of lspci:

:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host
bridge (rev 01)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP
bridge (rev 01)
:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 08)
:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB
:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 08)
:00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: VMWare Inc [VMWare SVGA II] PCI
Display Adapter
:00:10.0 SCSI storage controller: BusLogic BT-946C (BA80C30)
[MultiMaster 10] (rev 01)
:00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970
[PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 10)
:00:12.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97]
(rev 02)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

Bad things/comments:

After choosing the language, there is an oddly long pause before
the country or region dialog shows up.  Another long pause before
the keyboard layout selection.  (By 'long,' I mean about two seconds.)

The installer does not configure non-free sources.  Is this new Debian 
policy?  (It's fairly easy to edit sources.list by hand but is there 
a way for a new user to do this as an option in the install?)

Good things:

Autodetecting modules is very nice--I had to manually figure out
which network card VMware used with woody's install and add the
module for it.  Mirror selection is better.  stable/testing/unstable
is a nice touch.  The partioner is fantastic--especially easy on the
empty (emulated) disk I used.  I prefer this installer's Grub to woody's
default LILO.

Sound works with no manual intervention on this setup.



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Re: no chrp partition in the powerpc iso

2004-08-08 Thread Sven Luther

On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 01:16:38PM -0300, Rafael Ávila de Espíndola wrote:
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 Who is responsible for building the iso images? debian-installer or debian-cd?
 I notice the the rc1 image for the powerpc does not have a chrp partition. It 
 is necessary to boot some p-series machines. For more detains see
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/07/msg01824.html

It is debian-cd, but you could provide an installation against the installer
all the same, so it will get to the debian-boot list.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#241179: Processed: Bug#241179 (reassigned to netcfg)

2004-08-08 Thread Akkana Peck

Thanks for adding the workarounds to the documentation; that should
help.  And thanks for all the help in finding the workarounds.

I'm not entirely clear: I hope this bug now covers both issues,
#1 (not allowing network setup unless a network card is present
early in the install) and #2 (ifup not running automatically) ?
The workarounds in the wiki will work for expert users (assuming
they find it), but I hope eventually the installer will be usable
by less experienced users too (even if it can't happen in time for
sarge's release).  The woody installer handled this situation
without a problem, but it uses lilo, not grub, so I hate to point
newbies at it even if they have the network bandwidth to update to
sarge.


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Re: RC1 installation report with Japanese

2004-08-08 Thread Joey Hess

Kenshi Muto wrote:
 - May I apply a patch for base-config from #260887: Should use
   iso_3166.tab file from the iso-codes package, JoeyH?

base-config is frozen along with the rest of base+standard. I would prefer
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Bug#264424: Install Report

2004-08-08 Thread Eric Evans


Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 
http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-installer/2004-07-31/monolithic/2.6/mini.iso
uname -a: Linux daedalus 2.6.7-5-amd64-xeon #1 SMP Thu Jul 15 00:27:37 CEST 2004 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
Date: Sat Jul 31 10:51
Method: Booted from CD, performed a network install using,
deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64 unstable main, without
a proxy.
Machine: Homebuilt, MSI K8T Neo Mobo, RTL8169 ethernet, via82cxxx sound
Processor: Athlon64 2800
Memory: 512MB
Root Device: Maxtor 6Y200P0, ATA DISK drive, (/dev/hda)
Root Size/partition table:
   Device Boot  StartEnd Blocks   Id  System   Mount
/dev/hda1*  1 15 120456   83  Linux/boot
/dev/hda2  16   12319767520   83  Linux/
/dev/hda31232   1353 979965   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda41354  24792  188273767+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda51354   25699767488+  83  Linux/i386
/dev/hda62570  24792  178506216   83  Linux/home
Output of lspci and lspci -n:
--
:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8385 [K8T800 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 
01)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800 South]
:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit 
Ethernet (rev 10)
:00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C 
PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller 
(rev 81)
:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller 
(rev 81)
:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller 
(rev 81)
:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller 
(rev 81)
:00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [K8T800 South]
:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 
AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
:00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
:00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
:00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
:00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV 36 [GeForce 5700] (rev 
a1)
--
:00:00.0 0600: 1106:3188 (rev 01)
:00:01.0 0604: 1106:b188
:00:0b.0 0200: 10ec:8169 (rev 10)
:00:0f.0 0101: 1106:0571 (rev 06)
:00:10.0 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
:00:10.1 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
:00:10.2 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
:00:10.3 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
:00:10.4 0c03: 1106:3104 (rev 86)
:00:11.0 0601: 1106:3227
:00:11.5 0401: 1106:3059 (rev 60)
:00:18.0 0600: 1022:1100
:00:18.1 0600: 1022:1101
:00:18.2 0600: 1022:1102
:00:18.3 0600: 1022:1103
:01:00.0 0300: 10de:0342 (rev a1)
--

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:

I booted off the CD, and selected a normal install, (hitting enter at the
prompt). All of my hardware was detected properly. I chose to manually
partition which worked as expected. I answered yes to installing GRUB,
which also worked as expected.

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Bug#262620: still in d-i rc1

2004-08-08 Thread Joey Hess

Bart Martens wrote:
 This bug is still in the release candidate 1 of the debian
 installer released yesterday, 7 August 2004. That may be
 normal, if this bug was considered not important enough,
 I'm not sure.

Yes, this bug was incorrectly tagged fixed, we have a patch but it has
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Re: release status

2004-08-08 Thread Joey Hess

John Summerfield wrote:
 I set out to find whether the new manual provides that kind of 
 information, or pointer to where it may be found.  In the course of my 
 search I have discovered:
 a)  http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.arm/apas03.html contains links 
 to
 a.1 The Multi Disk HOWTO 
 http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multi-Disk-HOWTO.html which is quite old and 
 seriously out of date. I doubt whether any but the most frugal would be 
 satisfied, for example, with the partitions sizes recommended on 
 http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multi-Disk-HOWTO-10.html#ss10.1. If nobody 
 wants to take on the task of revising it, I suggest the link be dropped.

It's only two years out of date and looks generally correct to me as far
as workable minimum sizes go. I see no real reason to drop the link.

 a.2 A link to Partitioning Strategies 
 http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Partition/partition-5.html#SUBMITTED 
 which gets a 404.

Removed.

 b) No manuals for PowerPC or s390.

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Bug#264433: (no subject)

2004-08-08 Thread Philip Dodd

Package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version: RC1 for hppa from Debian server
uname -a: N/A
Date: 8th Aug 2004, 22:50 CEST
Method: Booted from CD-ROM (boot p9 after firmware boot device search)
Machine: HP 9000 D270 HPPA server, HP Disk array
Processor:2 x PA-RISC (160MHz ??)
Memory: 768MB
Root Device: SCSI CDROM - booted from firmware as BOOT P9
Root Size/partition table: N/A
Output of lspci:N/A
Base System Installation Checklist:
Initial boot worked:[E]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:
I booted with BOOT P9 and asked to interact with the IPL.  Having 
checked the defaults (this machine has no graphics card, so the console 
needs to default to serial, which it did), I accepted the defaults and 
the kernel booted.  I stopped at Setting up filesystem, please wait... 
and went no further.  I therefore could not install the system.

Many thanks and kind regards;
Philip
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Bug#264435: Debian Installer RC1 on MIPS

2004-08-08 Thread Joakim Tornqvist

Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Release Candidate 1

Method: Booted from network

Machine: Silicon Graphics Indy
Processor: MIPS R5000SC
Memory: 128 MB
Root Device: SCSI, /dev/sda

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [E]

When partitioning the hard drive i was given a list of partition
types i could use, i chose reiserfs. However, after installing the
boot loader and rebooting, i was unable to boot since the arcs
boot loader only can read ext2 file systems (which i was unaware of).

I suggest adding a text that informs the user when partitioning
that the /boot partition (or the / partition if a separate /boot
is not chosen) must be of ext2 type.


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Bug#248037: package-versions is extremly slow

[Colin Watson]
 grep-dctrl is your friend ...

Yet another tool I don't use very often. :)

But it does not really solve the problem I wanted to solve using
package-versions.  grep-dctrl isn't available within d-i, and I
normally use package-version from within d-i.

But I guess we can drop the call to package-version in the
prebaseconfig script, and copy the status file instead.

Also, I'll rewrite package-version to a faster version, based on
Martins ideas.


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Bug#260093: debian-installer installation-report AlphaStation 500/333 - aboot partition problems

2004-08-08 Thread Ferdinand O. Tempel

On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 00:32, Steve Langasek wrote:
 The second of these warnings should be addressed in partman-auto 27,
 included on today's CD images, which creates a separate ext2 /boot
 partition on alpha.

Partitioning seems to be going OK now...somewhat. But let me start at
the beginning.

I finally got around to trying D-I on alpha again, so I downloaded the
latest netinst ISO to try both the installer and to check if the kernel
would panic on me again (it didn't!). The installer version at that
time: 20040806.

Popping in the CD, and booting it goes all well. Autopartitioning on
/dev/sdb works like charm too (aboot headroom, and /boot on ext2, no
errors, no warnings), and even all the packages install...until it's
time to install aboot.

Tracking the aboot install yields a nice error message on TTY1, and the
following in syslog:

aboot-installer: info: Installing aboot on '/dev/sdb'
main-menu[275]: (process:11725): error: bootcode overlaps with partition
#9. If you really want this, use -f9
main-menu[275]: WARNING **: Configuring 'aboot-installer' failed with
error code 1

Partition table:
# fdisk -ul /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target8/lun0/disc

Disk /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target8/lun0/disc: 4550 MB, 4550934016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 553 cylinders, total 543 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

9 partitions:
#   start   end  size fstype   [fsize bsize   cpg]
  a:1  1954  1954   ext2  
  b: 1955158205156251   ext2  
  c:   158206451174292969   ext2  
  d:   451175   3666018   3214844   ext2  
  e:  3666019   5101565   1435547   ext2  
  f:  5101566   5355472253907   ext2  
  g:  5355473   8398441   3042969   ext2  
  h:  8398442   542490101   swap  
  i: 4294967295  8589934589  4294967295 ff

Looking at that partition table, I notice partition i to look odd. To
be honest, I have no idea what partition #9 is. My guess is that it's
i, and it's weird size is messing up aboot-installer's intelligence.
But that's just my guess, maybe you have a better one? :-)

 BTW, have you had any further problems with kernel panics from CDs?  If
 not, it may be that the disk didn't burn right, or that SRM was in an
 inconsistent state.

Nope, no panics this time. As to the cause I can only guess. I tried
several times with the same CD, and it paniced at different points in
the installation. Even after a few cold reboots, etc. Oh well, all seems
well in the kernel area now, so one less worry.

Thanks.

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Re: cardmgr start message during base install (extra packages)


[Per Olofsson]
 And here's an (untested) patch which also adds policy-rc.d
 support. Furthermore it corrects a problem in your patch: it runs
 cleanup code if apt-get fails.

I submitted a new bug report against di-utils with your patch
included.  Someone with more time then me should test it and commit it
when it is working.

(And discover1 should probably be changed to use one of these methods
as well, to avoid it trying to load modules inside /target/.)


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Bug#264450: Installation Report

2004-08-08 Thread Michael Banck

Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: RC1
Method: Business-Card i386 ISO of RC1, installing base over http/proxy

Machine: IBM Thinkpad R51
Processor: Pentium M/1.5GHz
Memory: 512MB
Root Device: IC25N040ATMR04-0, ATA DISK drive
Root Size/partition table:  
hda1  Primary   Linux ext3  4999.94(Debian GNU/Linux)
hda5  Logical   Linux ext2  1599.90(Debian GNU/Hurd)
hda9  Logical   Linux ext3  1599.90  /
hda6  Logical   Linux ext3  27155.43   (data)
hda7  Logical   Linux swap  1023.94  swap
hda8  Logical   Linux ext2  3628.68(data)

Output of lspci and lspci -n:

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [E]

Comments/Problems:

1. It was previously suggested to rename the inital boot dialog, like
s/press Return to boot/press Return to install Debian/ or something

2. If I don't have a network cable plugged in, I get asked for an IP
address. It's possible to go back and then select 'No network
configuration' (or something), but having a button like 'Continue
without configuring the network' right there intially would be better.
Though that's probably i) not easy with debconf and ii) too late for
sarge anyway

3. As it wasn't immediatly obvious how to reformat a partition with
partman, I (perhaps foolishly) decided to delete and re-create /dev/hda6
(on which some other ext2 previously existed). However, the format
dialog and subsequent dialogs talked about /dev/hda9 being
created/written to, which made me a bit nervous. I finally figured out
that partman renumbered the devices (see above partition listing),
adding /dev/hda9 at the place of the former /dev/hda6 but calling it
/dev/hda9. Oh well, that was a bit unsuspected and I had to change the
/etc/fstab of my other partition to fix it. If it is possible the
partition numbering should be preserved IMHO.

4. I did not install Grub so I can't tell whether my GNU/Hurd partition
has been detected and included correctly, but I could test that another
time if needed.

5. On reboot, during the bootup sequence, the framebuffer switched to a
different font which yielded about twice as many lines on the console
(to my liking). However, as soon as base-config started (or perhaps
shortly before), the console became totally corrupted and scrambled. It
was possible to figure out that I was looking at the base-config screen
and changing virtual consoles worked, but I was not able to read
anything.

This was with the default 2.4 kernel. I later reinstalled passing
'kernel26' to d-i, which worked fine (though the console font stayed at
the intial size/number of lines)

6. I did not select any tasks in tasksel but rather did 'apt-get install
gnome' from the console (I don't like how both KDE and GNOME get
installed by the desktop task, but oh well). I also installed
x-window-system-core and before that discover, mdetect, read-edid.
Configuring X was mostly alright and I noticed that the synaptic
touchpad driver got loaded during it at one point. However, after
reboot, the driver did not get loaded and X failed to come up. I had to
manually add psmouse to /etc/modules.

That's about it. Needless to say I'm pretty proud of y'all :)


Michael


Install logs and other status info is available in
/var/log/debian-installer/.


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Bug#264449: install report

2004-08-08 Thread Jukka Laurila

Package: installation-reports
INSTALL REPORT
Debian-installer-version: Sarge RC1 CD1, downloaded with bittorrent
uname -a: Linux decoud 2.6.7-1-386 #1 Thu Jul 8 05:08:04 EDT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: Aug 8 23:30 EEST
Method: Installed from CD1 and network using http from ftp.fi.debian.org. Booted off 
CD1.
DHCP. 8M/1M ADSL line. No proxy.
Machine: Self-built x86 PC
Processor: AMD Athlon 1.3 GHz
Memory: 1 GB
Root Device: IDE /dev/hdc7
Root Size/partition table:
  Disk /dev/hdc: 80.0 GB, 80054059008 bytes
16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 155114 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes
   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdc1   1   4063520480008+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdc2   40636  15511457697416f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hdc5   40636   8127020480008+  83  Linux
/dev/hdc6   81271  12190520480008+   b  W95 FAT32
/dev/hdc7   *  121906  15511416737304+  83  Linux (ROOT HERE)
Disk /dev/hdd: 120.0 GB, 120060444672 bytes
16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 232632 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes
   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdd1   1  232632   117246496+   b  W95 FAT32
Output of lspci and lspci -n:
:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] 
(rev 02)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
:00:04.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] 
(rev 22)
:00:04.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 10)
:00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 10)
:00:04.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 10)
:00:04.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] 
(rev 30)
:00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
:00:09.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy MIDI/Game port 
(rev 04)
:00:09.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port (rev 
04)
:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] 
(rev 08)
:00:11.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 
PDC20265 (FastTrak100 Lite/Ultra100) (rev 02)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD 
[Radeon 7200]
:00:00.0 0600: 1106:0305 (rev 02)
:00:01.0 0604: 1106:8305
:00:04.0 0601: 1106:0686 (rev 22)
:00:04.1 0101: 1106:0571 (rev 10)
:00:04.2 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 10)
:00:04.3 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 10)
:00:04.4 0600: 1106:3057 (rev 30)
:00:09.0 0401: 1102:0004 (rev 04)
:00:09.1 0980: 1102:7003 (rev 04)
:00:09.2 0c00: 1102:4001 (rev 04)
:00:0b.0 0200: 8086:1229 (rev 08)
:00:11.0 0180: 105a:0d30 (rev 02)
:01:00.0 0300: 1002:5144
Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Initial boot worked:[ O]
Configure network HW:   [O ]
Config network: [ O]
Detect CD:  [ O]
Load installer modules: [O ]
Detect hard drives: [ O]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ O]
Mount partitions:   [ O]
Install base system:[ O]
Install boot loader:[ O]
Reboot: [ O]
Comments/Problems:
The install was quite smooth and fast and the whole process 
took just a bit over half an hour. Overall the installer was 
clearly easier than for Woody. I booted off CD1 and selected 
Finnish as the language just to see how much of the system 
was translated. Most of it was, with the exception of some 
font configuration. Also there was no Finnish language 
option for KDE. Some word choices seemed odd, though. In 
particular the apparent references to LVM partitions would 
have been clearer if they had mentioned LVM, instead of 
just the Finnish translation for the term.

I installed the system on a spare partition on a drive that 
had an existing W2k install and a Debian Sid system. The 
installer autodetected those and added them to the GRUB menu 
smoothly. Nice.

I didn't specify mount locations for the existing partitions 
and consequently they were not available after booting. I 
wasn't able to find an easy (ie. graphical) way to set up 
mount points after the install.  It would be nice to have a 
some kind of automatic mountpoint determination system, like 
the one in Knoppix.

The question about whether or not the hardware clock is set 
to UTC would be easier to answer if the dialog showed the

Re: Opinion about sarge install

2004-08-08 Thread Andrew Pollock

On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 03:01:45PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hey folks,
 
 Just some opinion about the sarge install process. I installed a july daily
 build(I can't remember the exact one, but i think it was 25) on my computer
 that has just the very common hardware(i386 arch) with the 2.6 kernel. I
 consider myself a getting-to-intemediate-level user and here's some things you
 might consider (or not :P):
 1)X configuration should be more automatic. I couldn't get the x server to work
 on the first try. So I just did some copy and paste for the config file I
 backedup from my old Mandrake distro I replaced with debian. If  Mandrake can,
 why can't debian get the configuration right with not much user intervention
 and technical knowledge? These would make things much easier;

It would probably be interesting and useful for the X packaging team to see
a diff between the config that was generated from configuring X and the
config you ultimately had to use to get X working. In my experience,
provided you give the X configuration the right input, it does a reasonable
job of getting X working.

 2) I select the desktop package collection and then later when I was trying to
 install some software I found out make, gcc and other tools were not installed.
 I think these tools should be installed on any install because unfortunetelly
 not everything come on .deb packages from a organized  repository;

This is a matter of opinion. Not everyone wants a compiler installed by
default. Firewalls don't need a compiler. If you want to build stuff,
apt-get install build-essential. Whether the desktop task should install
build-essential is debateable. I'm inclined to think there should be a
Development task that installs at least build-essential packages...

 3) It should be a way to find out what's the best mirror. I had to try I few
 until I found that was acceptably fast.

Well that's going to vary from person to person. I'm not sure how something
like apt-spy can be integrated with the mirror selection process.

 4) My TV card(PixelView Pro w/ FM) doesn't worked after the installation. And
 still doesn't. OFFTOPIC: If anyone has any document or anything that can help
 me get it to work, it would be very much appreciated.Those things on Google did
 not work, I'll try harder to get this card to work and I have more free time :)
 
 I think that's all,
 
 Guilherme
 If God came down on Christmas day, I know exactly what He'd say
  He'd say Oi! to the punks, Oi! to the skins,
  Oi! to the world and everybody wins! No Doubt
 
 
 
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Bug#264451: di-utils: apt-install should not start daemons


Package:  di-utils
Version:  1.00
Severity: important
Tags: d-i

Packages installing daemons should not be allowed to start the daemon
inside /target/.  Packages installed with debootstrap will not do
this, because debootstrap replaces start-stop-daemon, but apt-install
do not do anything to avoid this.

See debian-boot thread cardmgr start message during base install
(extra packages) for a discussion around this issue.

Here is an untested patch with a proposed solution:

From: Per Olofsson
Subject: Re: cardmgr start message during base install (extra packages)
To: debian-boot
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:09:17 +0200

Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 Here is a patch to divert start-stop-daemon.  Mostly unsteded, but
 half of it is cut-n-paste from my upgrade-testing script.

And here's an (untested) patch which also adds policy-rc.d
support. Furthermore it corrects a problem in your patch: it runs
cleanup code if apt-get fails.

Index: apt-install
===
--- apt-install (revision 18584)
+++ apt-install (working copy)
@@ -36,6 +36,42 @@
 fi
 fi
 
+# Create a policy-rc.d to stop maintainer scripts using invoke-rc.d from
+# running init scripts
+make_policy-rc.d() {
+   cat  /target/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d EOF
+#!/bin/sh
+exit 101
+EOF
+   chmod a+rx /target/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d
+}
+remove_policy-rc.d() {
+   rm -f /target/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d
+}
+
+# This way to make start-stop-daemon do not work on upgrades, when
+# start-stop-daemon is replaced with a new version.  I tried to use
+# dpkg-divert to solve this, but am not sure I got it right. [pere
+# 2004-07-29]
+make_dummy_start_stop_daemon() {
+   cat  /target/sbin/start-stop-daemon.dummy EOF
+#!/bin/sh
+echo 12
+echo 'Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing.' 12
+exit 0
+EOF
+   chmod a+rx /target/sbin/start-stop-daemon.dummy
+   chroot /target dpkg-divert --add --local --rename /sbin/start-stop-daemon
+   ln -s start-stop-daemon.dummy /target/sbin/start-stop-daemon
+}
+remove_dummy_start_stop_daemon() {
+   rm /target/sbin/start-stop-daemon
+   chroot /target dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /sbin/start-stop-daemon
+}
+
+make_policy-rc.d
+make_dummy_start_stop_daemon
+
 # Unset to avoid problems with packages using debconf.  This should
 # avoid the following error when installing dash:
 # /var/lib/dpkg/info/ash/config: 1: Bad file descriptor
@@ -59,8 +95,12 @@
 mount -t proc proc /target/proc
 fi
 
-DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive \
-chroot /target apt-get -y install $@  /dev/null  $log 21
+if ! DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive \
+   chroot /target apt-get -y install $@  /dev/null  $log 21; then
+   remove_dummy_start_stop_daemon
+   remove_policy-rc.d
+   exit 1
+fi
 
 # Undo the mounts done by the packages during installation.
 # Reverse sorting to umount the deepest mount points first.
@@ -77,4 +117,7 @@
 
 rm -f /tmp/mount.pre
 
+remove_dummy_start_stop_daemon
+remove_policy-rc.d
+
 exit 0

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RE: Opinion about sarge install

2004-08-08 Thread peter green

 It would probably be interesting and useful for the X packaging
 team to see
 a diff between the config that was generated from configuring X and the
 config you ultimately had to use to get X working. In my experience,
 provided you give the X configuration the right input, it does a
 reasonable
 job of getting X working.
i think the point is that the X setup tool needs a full auto mode
almost every other distro has auto setup of X (even some debian based ones
like KNOPPIX)
normal users CANNOT be expected to answer those kind of questions

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Re: Opinion about sarge install

Andrew Pollock wrote:
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 03:01:45PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Hey folks,
Just some opinion about the sarge install process. I installed a july daily
build(I can't remember the exact one, but i think it was 25) on my computer
that has just the very common hardware(i386 arch) with the 2.6 kernel. I
consider myself a getting-to-intemediate-level user and here's some things you
might consider (or not :P):
1)X configuration should be more automatic. I couldn't get the x server to work
on the first try. So I just did some copy and paste for the config file I
backedup from my old Mandrake distro I replaced with debian. If  Mandrake can,
why can't debian get the configuration right with not much user intervention
and technical knowledge? These would make things much easier;
   

It would probably be interesting and useful for the X packaging team to see
a diff between the config that was generated from configuring X and the
config you ultimately had to use to get X working. In my experience,
provided you give the X configuration the right input, it does a reasonable
job of getting X working.
 

I have a DDC2-compliant Sun monitor on my peecee. I've not yet tried d-i 
on it, but there are no questions It should have to ask.


2) I select the desktop package collection and then later when I was trying to
install some software I found out make, gcc and other tools were not installed.
I think these tools should be installed on any install because unfortunetelly
not everything come on .deb packages from a organized  repository;
   

This is a matter of opinion. Not everyone wants a compiler installed by
default. Firewalls don't need a compiler. If you want to build stuff,
apt-get install build-essential. Whether the desktop task should install
build-essential is debateable. I'm inclined to think there should be a
Development task that installs at least build-essential packages...
 

I think a software developer task is a fine idea. If you can tune for 
specialisations - GNOME developers probably don't want KDE libraries, 
Kernel or httpd hackers might not evne want a desktop, let alone KDE and 
GNOME libraies -then so much the better.

 

3) It should be a way to find out what's the best mirror. I had to try I few
until I found that was acceptably fast.
   

Well that's going to vary from person to person. I'm not sure how something
like apt-spy can be integrated with the mirror selection process.
 

For me the best mirror is the one that doesn't cost me. I don't care 
about speed, prixiity measured in dollars is all that matters.

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Re: release status

2004-08-08 Thread Christian Leimer

Sven Luther wrote:

On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 10:18:09PM +0200, Christian Leimer wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:

On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 05:02:31PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,

Well, i have no idea what you are trying to do, but my guess is that
you are not looking in the right place. The miboot 2.4 floppies are
at
:

http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc-small/floppy/

hmm the boot.img from 2004-08-06, 21:24 (still) doesn't boot and
the root.img is too big to fit on a floppy :-(

:/ We need to find out why this happens. Do you know how to build it
:yourself ?

Hi!

I today copied the vmlinux.coff kernel from
kernel-build-2.4.25-powerpc-small to a hfs floppy and was able to boot
from openfirmware with: boot fd:vmlinux(renamed kernel). The kernel loads
but hangs because of no root fs. So whoever is building the boot floppies

The initrd should have the root fs modules, so this should not be a
problem. I have no idea how you specify a initrd with the OF, but my guess
is that you need to produce a kernel with builtin initrd, like we do for
chrp or prep.

The best guess would be to use a 2.6.7-powerpc kernel, and use :

mkvmlinuz 2.6.7-powerpc

to generate vmlinuz-2.6.7-powerpc, which you can then boot from the OF.
This is rather untested though, but mkvmlinuz supports the generation of
the .coff image.

Maybe d-i should provide such .coff images, since so it is not needed to
have either bootx nor miboot. But since this is only available from the
serial console, it cannot be a generic solution for old world.

should take this kernel and add some root or ram stuff to make a di boot
floppy. Also it seems that the ofonly and the normal kernels are equal.
Should this be so? And they still dont work error: unrecognized Client
Programm formatstate not valid. Maybe some sort of wrong format it should
be xcoff or?

No idea about this.

Hi again!

Take a look at:
http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/2004-08-08/build_powerpc-small_floppy_boot.log

And you can see that the floppy was built with a 2.4 kernel. And I think
that it should stay so and not take an 2.6 kernel, because I never was able
to boot on later after sarge installed on my Umax(oldworld clone mac).

Also look at line nine from the end of the file its:
hcopy -r ./tmp/powerpc-small_floppy_boot-ofonly/vmlinux.gz :vmlinuz
it seems that a gziped vmlinux file becomes vmlinuz. Do I understand that
right? But It should be a coff file, dont know if compressed or not. So the
error formatstate blabla at openfirmwae is a result of loading a gz file.

Maybe someone (how to find out how?)can change the build script to make a
coff file and the I can test if the resulting floppy will work.

Since d-i rc1 is out now there should be a boot floppy for people how dont
have macos to boot from cd on an oldworld.

Ciao Chris.

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Bug#264474: sarge-i386-netinst.iso failed to boot

2004-08-08 Thread harvey smith

Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: Aug 8 2004 
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
uname -a: 
Date: Aug 8 2004 7pm EDT
Method: Attempted to install via booting from CDROM (CDROM CDU311)

Machine: Generic no-name
Processor: AMD-k6, 450 Mhz
Memory: 32 Meg RAM
Root Device: would have been IDE hda1
Root Size/partition table: NA
Output of lspci: NA

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[E]
Configure network HW:   [ ]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD:  [ ]
Load installer modules: [ ]
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Create file systems:[ ]
Mount partitions:   [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [ ]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

This computer CDROM combo can boot to woody disk 1 just fine, so
mutli-boot works (well at least for woody.) Problem seems to be with
the CDROM CDU311 drive as this same cdrom drive also failed to boot on
a compact Deskpro 4000 (PII 266) which also booted/installed woody off of
woody CD 1 with no problems.

Also note the media is good. I have checked the md5sums and booted to it
on my newest machine (don't laugh) a K-7 duran 800mhz.



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Re: release status

Joey Hess wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
 

I set out to find whether the new manual provides that kind of 
information, or pointer to where it may be found.  In the course of my 
search I have discovered:
a)  http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.arm/apas03.html contains links 
to
a.1 The Multi Disk HOWTO 
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multi-Disk-HOWTO.html which is quite old and 
seriously out of date. I doubt whether any but the most frugal would be 
satisfied, for example, with the partitions sizes recommended on 
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multi-Disk-HOWTO-10.html#ss10.1. If nobody 
wants to take on the task of revising it, I suggest the link be dropped.
   

It's only two years out of date and looks generally correct to me as far
as workable minimum sizes go. I see no real reason to drop the link.
 

I have a minimimal Sarge install. it's 200 Mbytes.
That rules out Learning.
I don't know what hoppies one can practice with 300 Mbytes of free disk 
and no optional packages, but it seems to me you'd be constrained.

If you want a GUI disktop and a reasonable set of software, 2 gbytes is 
about the going rate: it's what I used on RHL 7.3, it's about what the 
progeny install I just did takes. SuSE 9.0 came out a bit lite at 1.4. I 
don't have a recent equivalent Sarge to look at.

I know my 30 Gbyte drive is bulging at the perimeter. If I thought to 
master DVDs it would be nowhere near enough.


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Bug#264482: mounting tmpfs gives bad address

2004-08-08 Thread Joshua Kwan

Package: busybox-cvs
Version: 20040623-1
Severity: important

On sparc64,

mount: Mounting tmpfs on /mnt: Bad address
mount: Mounting shm on /mnt: Bad address

If I use a real mount binary (ie from util-linux) it works fine.

It also fails to mount procfs.

It also fails if I mount with rw in the kernel arguments.

Any idea at all?

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-rc3
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (ignored: LC_ALL set to en_US.UTF-8)

Versions of packages busybox-cvs depends on:
ii  libc6   2.3.2.ds1-15 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an

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Re: Opinion about sarge install

2004-08-08 Thread Andrew Pollock

On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 11:56:00PM +0100, peter green wrote:
  It would probably be interesting and useful for the X packaging
  team to see
  a diff between the config that was generated from configuring X and the
  config you ultimately had to use to get X working. In my experience,
  provided you give the X configuration the right input, it does a
  reasonable
  job of getting X working.
 i think the point is that the X setup tool needs a full auto mode
 almost every other distro has auto setup of X (even some debian based ones
 like KNOPPIX)
 normal users CANNOT be expected to answer those kind of questions

You should jump on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and have a discussion about
this. I think it's been discussed in the past.

The main thing is, Knoppix runs on 1 architecture, the X configuration has
to work on all 11. I believe Branden has said in the past that autodetection
of the monitor and video card can have undesirable results (like hanging the
system) on some combinations of hardware and architectures.

That said, it may be feasible to autodetect everything on i386, which is the
probably the architecture that X is most installed on... I don't know. Talk
to the X folks if you feel strongly about it.

regards

Andrew


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[D-I Manual] Build log for en (09 Aug 2004)

2004-08-08 Thread Frans Pop

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The new version of the manual has been uploaded successfully.

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RE: X configuration (was Opinion about sarge install)

2004-08-08 Thread peter green

ok it would seem i was a bit behind the times and there is autodection now
was this what the original reporter chose? (and is he still in the reply
lists or on this mailing list for that matter)

btw i got a mouse selection page with ps/2 and imps/2 on it (and a load of
others that were obviously brands) but no explantion as to what thesse meant
i dunno whether that can be considered a bug or not but its definately an
unfriendlyness

finally after installing x-windows-system i get twm when using startx
this isn't exactly the most friendly window manager around

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Pollock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 August 2004 03:31
 To: peter green
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Opinion about sarge install


 On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 11:56:00PM +0100, peter green wrote:
   It would probably be interesting and useful for the X packaging
   team to see
   a diff between the config that was generated from configuring
 X and the
   config you ultimately had to use to get X working. In my experience,
   provided you give the X configuration the right input, it does a
   reasonable
   job of getting X working.
  i think the point is that the X setup tool needs a full auto mode
  almost every other distro has auto setup of X (even some debian
 based ones
  like KNOPPIX)
  normal users CANNOT be expected to answer those kind of questions

 You should jump on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and have a discussion about
 this. I think it's been discussed in the past.

 The main thing is, Knoppix runs on 1 architecture, the X configuration has
 to work on all 11. I believe Branden has said in the past that
 autodetection
 of the monitor and video card can have undesirable results (like
 hanging the
 system) on some combinations of hardware and architectures.

 That said, it may be feasible to autodetect everything on i386,
 which is the
 probably the architecture that X is most installed on... I don't
 know. Talk
 to the X folks if you feel strongly about it.

 regards

 Andrew


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Re: Opinion about sarge install

Andrew Pollock wrote:
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 11:56:00PM +0100, peter green wrote:
 

It would probably be interesting and useful for the X packaging
team to see
a diff between the config that was generated from configuring X and the
config you ultimately had to use to get X working. In my experience,
provided you give the X configuration the right input, it does a
reasonable
job of getting X working.
 

i think the point is that the X setup tool needs a full auto mode
almost every other distro has auto setup of X (even some debian based ones
like KNOPPIX)
normal users CANNOT be expected to answer those kind of questions
   

You should jump on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and have a discussion about
this. I think it's been discussed in the past.
The main thing is, Knoppix runs on 1 architecture, the X configuration has
to work on all 11. I believe Branden has said in the past that autodetection
of the monitor and video card can have undesirable results (like hanging the
system) on some combinations of hardware and architectures.
That said, it may be feasible to autodetect everything on i386, which is the
probably the architecture that X is most installed on... I don't know. Talk
to the X folks if you feel strongly about it.
 

The hardware detection Knoppix uses comes from Red Hat Linux, and Red 
Hat Linux supports
IA32
IA64
AMD-64
S/390  zSeries
IBM pSeries
IBM pSeries
I believe it's also used in Yellow Dog Linux and that runs on Macs.
It also used to run on Sparc - I installed RHL 6.2 on a lunchbox here 
when Debian wouldn't.

Of all those, IA32 is the post complex, and most of those not covered 
have a much smaller variety of hardware to fuss over.

I have a powerbook here. How many different graphics chipsets, firewire 
chipsets, gigabyte NICs, DVD burners, USB2 ports are you likely to 
encounter?

I used to be a sysprog on S370. Yes things might have changed now, but 
then if you wanted to sell me a some disk drives, tapes, printers - 
anything- the onus was on _you_ to ensure it worked with the OS _I_ was 
using at the time, and do so in a way that didn't affect support for my 
OS.  Commonly that was done by making devices look sufficiently like IBM 
devices that no software changes were needed.

Even now, IBM storage devices that are not 3390s present themselves as 
3390s so as to be compatible with older software (MVS).

I do not believe that extending the hardware detection used by Knoppix 
is a big issue.

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