Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
Ahoi! Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org writes: -kfreebsd-10 (10.1~svn272463-1) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium Uploaded and use those to build kfreebsd-kernel-headers 10.1~4 from SVN trunk. As well then build freebsd-libs 10.1~svn272464-1 from SVN trunk, and install: Waiting for DINSTALL to finish then build zfsutils 10.1~svn272500-1 from SVN trunk. That one will go as soon as freebsd-libs built I updated the buildd chroots for the new packages Christoph -- 9FED 5C6C E206 B70A 5857 70CA 9655 22B9 D49A E731 Debian Developer | Lisp Hacker | CaCert Assurer pgpQ3PjOhdVgR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
Hello, Please could you upload freebsd-smbfs (10.1~svn272500-1) next. Thanks, Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141005191233.gb21...@squeeze.pyro.eu.org
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
On 20:12, Steven Chamberlain wrote: Please could you upload freebsd-smbfs (10.1~svn272500-1) next. and also freebsd-utils (10.1~svn272167-1) please (in any order). Thanks! Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141005192933.gc21...@squeeze.pyro.eu.org
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
Hi! Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org writes: Please could you upload freebsd-smbfs (10.1~svn272500-1) next. Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org writes: and also freebsd-utils (10.1~svn272167-1) please (in any order). Both uploaded! That should be the most important ones right (apart from ufsutils maybee)? Btw: should we remove fuse4bsd from unstable? fuse is now part of the main kernel. Christoph -- 9FED 5C6C E206 B70A 5857 70CA 9655 22B9 D49A E731 Debian Developer | Lisp Hacker | CaCert Assurer pgpfS4fRJOFOC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org writes: Btw: should we remove fuse4bsd from unstable? fuse is now part of the main kernel. kfreebsd-8 should also go I guess? Christoph -- 9FED 5C6C E206 B70A 5857 70CA 9655 22B9 D49A E731 Debian Developer | Lisp Hacker | CaCert Assurer pgpmb1r0qMG92.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
On 22:08, Christoph Egger wrote: Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org writes: Please could you upload freebsd-smbfs (10.1~svn272500-1) next. Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org writes: and also freebsd-utils (10.1~svn272167-1) please (in any order). Both uploaded! That should be the most important ones right (apart from ufsutils maybee)? Thank you, yes those are all that are needed right now, although soon there may be: * freebsd-buildutils, to add MK_HYPERV and ISTR something else * freebsd-utils (newer snapshot) * ufsutils These are very important to d-i, so I should build a d-i image with them and complete a test-install first. Btw: should we remove fuse4bsd from unstable? fuse is now part of the main kernel. Aha I was wondering about that; I'm not familiar with fuse, but seemed to remember the package was going away. A lot of packages still depend on that (empty) package: * avfs * bindfs * curlftpfs * encfs * exfat-fuse * fuse-convmvfs * fusedav * gphotofs * jmtpfs * mythtvfs * plptools * python-fuse * rofs * s3ql * sshfs so I think we must add a Provides: (and Conflicts:) fuse4bsd to kfreebsd-image-*? We should perhaps wait 10 days for 10.1 to migrate. Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141005202057.ge21...@squeeze.pyro.eu.org
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
On 22:10, Christoph Egger wrote: Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org writes: Btw: should we remove fuse4bsd from unstable? fuse is now part of the main kernel. kfreebsd-8 should also go I guess? That's long-gone. (Some packages are Built-Using it, so some tools think it still exists in sid). kfreebsd-9 can go soon. I prefer to wait until 10.1 migrates to sid/jessie - because there was that 9.2-10.0 upgrade issue which is fixed in 10.1. Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141005202535.gg21...@squeeze.pyro.eu.org
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
Hi! Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org writes: Btw: should we remove fuse4bsd from unstable? fuse is now part of the main kernel. Aha I was wondering about that; I'm not familiar with fuse, but seemed to remember the package was going away. A lot of packages still depend on that (empty) package: * avfs * bindfs * curlftpfs * encfs * exfat-fuse * fuse-convmvfs * fusedav * gphotofs * jmtpfs * mythtvfs * plptools * python-fuse * rofs * s3ql * sshfs so I think we must add a Provides: (and Conflicts:) fuse4bsd to kfreebsd-image-*? We should perhaps wait 10 days for 10.1 to migrate. hmm are we going to have a kernel without its own fuse.ko in jessie? are we going to remove 9 completely? If not maybe fuse4bsd should only be changed to depend on either a 10 kernel or fuse4bsd-dkms (why is that a recommends btw?) Christoph -- 9FED 5C6C E206 B70A 5857 70CA 9655 22B9 D49A E731 Debian Developer | Lisp Hacker | CaCert Assurer pgpgbfmEq7tYu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org writes: A lot of packages still depend on that (empty) package: * avfs * bindfs * curlftpfs * encfs * exfat-fuse * fuse-convmvfs * fusedav * gphotofs * jmtpfs * mythtvfs * plptools * python-fuse * rofs * s3ql * sshfs so I think we must add a Provides: (and Conflicts:) fuse4bsd to kfreebsd-image-*? We should perhaps wait 10 days for 10.1 to migrate. FWIW none of these dependencies seem to carry a version so provides should be fine if that is the way we want it. However fuse4bsd ships a mount_fusefs binary and carrys a dependency on kldutils so it may not be totally useless. Christoph -- 9FED 5C6C E206 B70A 5857 70CA 9655 22B9 D49A E731 Debian Developer | Lisp Hacker | CaCert Assurer pgp6BEPRd00vI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org writes: However fuse4bsd ships a mount_fusefs binary and carrys a dependency on kldutils so it may not be totally useless. Though that could (and should?) be added to freebsd-utils. Christoph -- 9FED 5C6C E206 B70A 5857 70CA 9655 22B9 D49A E731 Debian Developer | Lisp Hacker | CaCert Assurer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87eguml02y@anonymous.siccegge.de
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
On 22:34, Christoph Egger wrote: hmm are we going to have a kernel without its own fuse.ko in jessie? I don't think so. Only if perhaps this was a sid chroot on a wheezy 9.0 kernel, in which case, fuse isn't expected to work anyway? are we going to remove 9 completely? Of course, I assumed it was going away completely; if it was staying in jessie, it should have been updated to 9.3, weeks ago. I don't expect we have the resources to support two kernels in stable again (at the same time as oldstable). We do have to support sid/jessie chroots on a wheezy 9.0 kernel (for the buildds) but they won't be using fuse. If not maybe fuse4bsd should only be changed to depend on either a 10 kernel This seemed like a good idea... it addresses the upgrade case so that a kfreebsd-10 kernel package definitely gets installed. But this is still not right: * until reboot, the old kernel is still running * the user can still choose to boot an older kernel, package dependencies don't consider this * on kfreebsd-i386, we'd need to install version 10+1 of either kfreebsd-image-486 | kfreebsd-image-686 | kfreebsd-image-xen but APT isn't likely to know which one is correct, because wheezy d-i didn't use that metapackage. So I'm back to thinking userland should never express dependencies on a kernel package, at all. I still think kfreebsd-10 images could Provides: + Conflicts: fuse4bsd, so that reverse-dependencies are satisfied and fuse4bsd can go away. It means fuse-using packages won't be installable in chroots but maybe that's correct. or fuse4bsd-dkms (why is that a recommends btw?) Don't know. Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141005205716.ga21...@squeeze.pyro.eu.org
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
On 22:43, Christoph Egger wrote: Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org writes: However fuse4bsd ships a mount_fusefs binary and carrys a dependency on kldutils so it may not be totally useless. Though that could (and should?) be added to freebsd-utils. Aha, we could move the binary there and Provides:/Conflicts: fuse4bsd from there too. It might be useful to have it in a udeb someday. The Provides is better there than in a kfreebsd-image package, because we can't guarantee what kernel version is running. BTW all kfreebsd-image packages require kldutils anyway so I think that dependency was redundant. Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141005210610.gb21...@squeeze.pyro.eu.org
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
On 22:06, Steven Chamberlain wrote: On 22:43, Christoph Egger wrote: Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org writes: However fuse4bsd ships a mount_fusefs binary and carrys a dependency on kldutils so it may not be totally useless. Though that could (and should?) be added to freebsd-utils. Aha, we could move the binary there and Provides:/Conflicts: fuse4bsd from there too. It might be useful to have it in a udeb someday. For now, shall we keep the fuse4bsd source package, update it for kfreebsd-10, and just stop building the fuse4bsd-dkms binary package? Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141005213750.gd21...@squeeze.pyro.eu.org
Re: [Glibc-bsd-commits] r5595 - branches/experimental/kfreebsd-10/debian
Steven Chamberlain wrote: You can begin building this now if you like, and then upload to unstable (source-only), as soon as you see the d-i Beta 2 announcement: On 20:57, stevenc-gu...@alioth.debian.org wrote: New Revision: 5595 [...] -kfreebsd-10 (10.1~svn272463-1) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium +kfreebsd-10 (10.1~svn272463-1) unstable; urgency=low As KiBi points out, the udeb freeze is lifted. Please upload whenever you're ready! Then install these locally: kfreebsd-headers-10-amd64_10.1~svn272463-1_kfreebsd-amd64.deb kfreebsd-headers-10.1-0_10.1~svn272463-1_kfreebsd-amd64.deb kfreebsd-headers-10.1-0-amd64_10.1~svn272463-1_kfreebsd-amd64.deb kfreebsd-source-10.1_10.1~svn272463-1_all.deb and use those to build kfreebsd-kernel-headers 10.1~4 from SVN trunk. Also install it: kfreebsd-kernel-headers_10.1~4_kfreebsd-amd64.deb then build freebsd-libs 10.1~svn272464-1 from SVN trunk, and install: libutil-freebsd-dev_10.1~svn272464-1_kfreebsd-amd64.deb libutil-freebsd-9_10.1~svn272464-1_kfreebsd-amd64.deb libgeom-dev_10.1~svn272464-1_kfreebsd-amd64.deb libgeom1_10.1~svn272464-1_kfreebsd-amd64.deb then build zfsutils 10.1~svn272500-1 from SVN trunk. Those are the first things that need to be uploaded. I'm still checking the others (freebsd-utils, freebsd-smbfs, ufsutils). I'll update d-i sometime before the next daily build, IIRC at 22:00 UTC. Thanks a lot, Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141005021737.gg17...@squeeze.pyro.eu.org
