Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi again Jonathan, >... Sure, I had no reason to believe the hang was fixed in wheezy. What changed is that stable gained an updated network driver; I had been hoping to see whether _that_ worked. OK, I'll get a blank DVD today and see if the live image works. Good news -- it works!! I downloaded the KDE version, and on booting the DVD got to the KDE desktop with no problems at all. (I would need to update the list of screen resolutions to get the aspect ratio right, but no big deal, and the sound sounds a bit tinny, but we have a running system.) Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi Jonathan, Mike Hore wrote: Hi Jonathan, Mike Hore wrote: I would expect that the latest fixes would only be in Testing. Is this right? Nah, the network driver was updated in Stable[2]. [...] Well, I found I'd accidentally left myself an unused partition :-) So I went ahead and did a regular install using the current weekly build netinst iso. Unfortunately, the problem(s) is/are still there. Sure, I had no reason to believe the hang was fixed in wheezy. What changed is that stable gained an updated network driver; I had been hoping to see whether _that_ worked. OK, I'll get a blank DVD today and see if the live image works. -- Mike. If it did, it would be possible to confirm, by upgrading only the kernel, linux-base, and initramfs-tools[1]: 1. That it's the kernel that broke on this hardware in sid, not some userland component 2. Whether installing the firmware-linux-nonfree package helps 3. As a bonus, which version of the kernel introduced the trouble (by bisecting through the available kernels in snapshot.debian.org) [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental . -- --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi Jonathan, Mike Hore wrote: it appears the live images are only for Stable. Yeah, it seems so at the moment[1]. I would expect that the latest fixes would only be in Testing. Is this right? Nah, the network driver was updated in Stable[2]. (And you're right, I don't want to disrupt my working system, and especially not to muck around with my partitions.) I don't blame you. :) Well, I found I'd accidentally left myself an unused partition :-) So I went ahead and did a regular install using the current weekly build netinst iso. Unfortunately, the problem(s) is/are still there. I got EXACTLY the behavior I reported above. Scrambled video, so I did a rescue mode boot and installed the updated driver as I described in an earlier message. This let the boot proceed past this point, but it hung with the flashing text on the screen, just as I described earlier. So sorry, it's not fixed. I might give the live image a go when I get time, but in view of what's happened I'm not very hopeful. But as I have a running system under VirtualBox, I'm happy as far as that goes. I guess most users of new Macs would want to use OSX as well as Debian, and VirtualBox or one of the other virtualizers would definitely be the way to go. Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi Jonathan, Hey, Mike Hore wrote: Just an update -- somebody put me on to Virtual Box, and it works! Just curious: did you ever try a CD from the last point release (6.0.3), which includes the appropriate network drivers? No, I haven't tried it since I've been tied up on other things. If you're interested, one way to test would be to try with Debian Live[1], to avoid disrupting a working system. Jonathan [1] http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ OK, I might try that when I get time (not sure when though). Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Just an update -- somebody put me on to Virtual Box, and it works! It's free for non-commercial use, and has allowed me to bypass this problem completely. I could install directly off the weekly build ISO file without needing to burn a CD, and use the default installation, and everything ran without a hitch. Having Debian running as a guest OS makes it trivial to switch between systems without any dual-booting hassles. So for anybody wanting to run both OSX and Debian on a new iMac, I'd recomment this route. Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
I wrote: > So possibly the Broadcom driver is the culprit here, though I could > do a net install without problems. What I meant is that the installer ran without apparent problems. I still can't boot into the new system. I didn't mean to sound like I had a successful installation - I don't. Apparently we still can't install wheezy onto these iMacs, or at least I haven't heard from anybody who's done it successfully. Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#627705: Broadcom Ethernet adapters (tg3 & broadcom drivers)
Hi Ben et al, For the record, new 21.5" iMacs use Broadcom 57765, which is on your list as not supported. So this appears to be a serious problem for installing on these machines (which will be numerous!) Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi Jonathan and all, I think I've verified that there are two separate issues here -- the problem with the radeon video driver, and something else that causes the boot to lock up. I located the correct driver: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-11-8-x86.x86_64.run I downloaded this and put it on my external drive. I then booted into rescue mode (so I got a root shell). I mounted the external drive. I had to chmod to make the driver installer executable, then ran it. The driver installation apparently ran normally. Then I removed the blacklisting for radeon. After that, I could reboot and the "flashing lights" problem had gone away. However the boot still locks up, with rapidly flashing messages on the screen like I described earlier. However now, in rescue mode, the messages are all about eth0 being up. So possibly the Broadcom driver is the culprit here, though I could do a net install without problems. But at least I think I now have the correct video driver installed. A problem will be that this isn't free in the Debian sense. I didn't have to pay anything, but it's not free the way Debian means free. So I don't know what issues this might raise for getting a new installer that really works for these iMacs. Cheers, Mike. ------- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi again Jonathan, > Hmmm - interesting. I might check Ubuntu forums too. The same problem has shown up there too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1578342 Some fixes have been posted on that thread. I can't really take the time to apply them all myself, but it probably suggests a way forward. My suggestion would be for this bug to stand until a fix has been rolled into a new installer, so that we can do a straightforward installation on these machines. Hopefully this can be done. Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi Jonathan, Mike Hore wrote: I don't know that I want to try any more -- I seem to be getting nowhere. I think it might need someone who really understands the Debian boot process to get their hands on a new iMac and sort this whole thing out. There are plenty of them around by now. I've got a lot of other things on my plate and this isn't a high priority for me. Might also be worth asking on debian-u...@lists.debian.org if anyone has tried installing on a 2011 iMac. I did earlier on -- I got no replies for over a week even though I followed up my own posts several times. I concluded nobody else had even tried at that stage. I might give it a month and then try again. Sorry for the trouble and thanks for testing. As you saw with e.g. the "co" bug, we're not at a stage in the release cycle when the installer is completely polished yet. So at the moment, using the squeeze installer and then upgrading is more likely to be reliable. That was the first thing I tried a while ago -- then somebody suggested I try the latest installer which is what I did. If you do get a working installation, I would still be very interested in tracking down the radeon modesetting trouble (e.g., by taking a snapshot of the screen with artifacts and recovering any log entries that appear before then). I suspect the cause is similar to Bug#637943 (modesetting not working correctly without firmware-linux-nonfree installed). Hmmm - interesting. I might check Ubuntu forums too. But I'm not in a particular hurry -- I've just installed MacOSX 10.7 (Lion) and I've got heaps of other things to keep busy with :-) Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi again Jonathan, Mike Hore wrote: Ummm... Mac keyboards don't have scroll lock! It seems that scroll lock is shift+f14. Nope, that has no effect whatsoever. Yes, single WAS there!! Let me double-check... yes, what I said was what happened. Both single and quiet were there. The actual line printed was Starting GNOME Display Manager: gdm3 Weird. I have no idea what happened there. Right. Running again with "quiet" off, once it starts rapidly flashing messages without progressing, I was able to read these lines: usb 2-1.4: usbfs: interface 2 claimed by usb-storage while 'usb' sets config #1 usb 2-1.4: usbfs: process 2008(usb) did not claim interface 0 before use I have no idea what these lines mean. The other flashing lines releated to eth0, but I didn't copy them down. There should be entries from "recovery mode" in the boot menu, too, with similar effect. Maybe that's worth a try. :/ . I don't know that I want to try any more -- I seem to be getting nowhere. I think it might need someone who really understands the Debian boot process to get their hands on a new iMac and sort this whole thing out. There are plenty of them around by now. I've got a lot of other things on my plate and this isn't a high priority for me. Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi Jonathan, Mike Hore wrote: I added "single" and removed "quiet". The boot then proceeded till I got a flashing line at the top of the screen saying lp: driver loaded but no devices found alternating very rapidly with another line I couldn't read. No further progress. Maybe scroll lock can stop it. Ummm... Mac keyboards don't have scroll lock! [...] Then I rebooted and this time left "quiet" there. The boot proceeded till it said GNOME display manager loading I assume there was no "single" this time? (gdm should not be getting loaded in single-user mode.) Yes, single WAS there!! Let me double-check... yes, what I said was what happened. Both single and quiet were there. The actual line printed was Starting GNOME Display Manager: gdm3 Then there were a couple of lines that flashed on and off very quickly -- I saw the words "bluetooth" and "daemon" there. Then a blank screen with flashing cursor. Any bright ideas? Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi Jonathan, Mike Hore wrote: Hi Jonathan, That is bug #636040 (finish-install: hvc0 console added to inittab even when not available), which seems to be mostly harmless. It should be safe to remove the "co:" line to remove the message about spawning getty there. Are you suggesting I do that? Nah, it doesn't matter. The "co:" line I was referring to is a line starting with the text "co:" in /etc/inittab. OK, no worries. [...] That is probably gdm or the X server coping poorly with the radeon driver failing to load. Please add "1" or "single" (as a separate word, no quotes) to the kernel command line at bootup so we can see if a non-graphical bootup works. OK, same problem. Where and what is that "kernel command line" so I can add to it? It's in the GRUB menu presented at bootup. You can edit it like this: 1. Use arrow keys to choose the kernel you want to boot. 2. Press "e" to reveal its settings. 3. Move the cursor to the line that starts with "linux" and edit the options there as desired (e.g., to add "1" and remove "quiet"). Sorry for the lack of clarity. That's OK. Here's what happened: I added "single" and removed "quiet". The boot then proceeded till I got a flashing line at the top of the screen saying lp: driver loaded but no devices found alternating very rapidly with another line I couldn't read. No further progress. Then I rebooted and this time left "quiet" there. The boot proceeded till it said GNOME display manager loading Then there was one other line for about 1/10 sec and then just a blank screen with a flashing cursor at the top. No further progress. In both cases typing keys had no effect, and I had to push the power button to force a shutdown. Hope you can make some sense of this... Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi Jonathan, Hi Mike, Mike Hore wrote: It was simpler than I thought -- I've got those files for you now, so I'll attach the zipped archive. Nice. From inittab: co:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty hvc0 9600 linux From the installer log: finish-install: Setting up virtualized serial console on /dev/hvc0 finish-install: adding console to /etc/inittab That is bug #636040 (finish-install: hvc0 console added to inittab even when not available), which seems to be mostly harmless. It should be safe to remove the "co:" line to remove the message about spawning getty there. Are you suggesting I do that? Sorry, I have a software development background but not on Linux, so I don't know where that line is to remove it. From syslog: gdm3[1777]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.038594 seconds gdm3[1777]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.039019 seconds gdm3[1777]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.038234 seconds [...] That is probably gdm or the X server coping poorly with the radeon driver failing to load. Please add "1" or "single" (as a separate word, no quotes) to the kernel command line at bootup so we can see if a non-graphical bootup works. OK, same problem. Where and what is that "kernel command line" so I can add to it? If it works, then it is probably worth trying to log in on the console and running "modprobe radeon" and then sending logs (/var/log/dmesg) and a photograph of the artifacts. Yes, I can do that if I get that far. netconsole[1] or a serial console[2] could help to recover messages if they aren't getting logged properly before rebooting. [1] http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt [2] http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/serial-console.txt . Thanks -- if you can point me in the right direction I'll try your suggestions. Cheers, Mike. ------- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi Jonathan, ... What kernel version do you use? Do you still have to blacklist the radeon module to get as far as you do in booting up? I've used both 2.6.xx (maybe 39?) and 3.0 and got the same results. Yes, I do have to blacklist radeon, under both kernels. I think this might be a separate issue. The other problem you mentioned (/sbin/getty not starting) is not yet phrased as a kernel bug, so I'm not sure how to move forward on tracking it down. Is it possible to retrieve logs (like /var/log/kern.log, /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/installer) from the system that fails to boot? OK - I think I can do a rescue mode boot and get into a shell, so I'll see if I can get these files -- and also /etc/inittab. I'll probably have to mount my external drive so I have somewhere to copy them to. I'm going to be a bit busy in the next day or two but I'll do this when I can get to it. Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi all -- I'm back now, so I'll be available to try anything that anybody suggests. It would be good to get this sorted out. In case there's an issue with the keyboard and/or USB, the install process doesn't seem to recognise the USB keyboard, but when I accept the default generic keyboard, the install proceeds normally. I'll paste a dump of the USB hardware below, in case it's relevant. Cheers, Mike. USB High-Speed Bus: Host Controller Location: Built-in USB Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBEHCI PCI Device ID:0x1c2d PCI Revision ID: 0x0005 PCI Vendor ID:0x8086 Bus Number: 0xfa FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in): Product ID: 0x850b Vendor ID:0x05ac (Apple Inc.) Version: 7.55 Serial Number:CCGB410L7WDDJPFX Speed:Up to 480 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Location ID: 0xfa20 / 3 Current Available (mA): 500 Current Required (mA):500 Hub: Product ID: 0x2514 Vendor ID:0x0424 (SMSC) Version: 0.03 Speed:Up to 480 Mb/sec Location ID: 0xfa10 / 2 Current Available (mA): 500 Current Required (mA):2 Hub in Apple Pro Keyboard: Product ID: 0x1003 Vendor ID:0x05ac (Apple Inc.) Version: 4.00 Speed:Up to 12 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Mitsumi Electric Location ID: 0xfa13 / 5 Current Available (mA): 500 Current Required (mA):50 Composite Device: Product ID: 0x0461 Vendor ID:0x04d9 (Holtek Semiconductor, Inc.) Version: 1.00 Speed:Up to 1.5 Mb/sec Location ID: 0xfa132000 / 9 Current Available (mA): 100 Current Required (mA):100 Apple Pro Keyboard: Product ID: 0x020b Vendor ID:0x05ac (Apple Inc.) Version: 4.00 Speed:Up to 12 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Mitsumi Electric Location ID: 0xfa133000 / 8 Current Available (mA): 250 Current Required (mA):50 BRCM2046 Hub: Product ID: 0x4500 Vendor ID:0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.) Version: 1.00 Speed:Up to 12 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Location ID: 0xfa11 / 4 Current Available (mA): 500 Current Required (mA):0 Bluetooth USB Host Controller: Product ID: 0x8215 Vendor ID:0x05ac (Apple Inc.) Version: 1.91 Serial Number:040CCE25B674 Speed:Up to 12 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Location ID: 0xfa111000 / 6 Current Available (mA): 500 Current Required (mA):0 --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
I wrote: > I should probably retry the whole install with the 2.6.x > kernel instead of 3.0. I'll do this when I get time, and > report. I was able to try this, but I got EXACTLY the same problem when I tried to boot into the new system. I'm going to be away and out of contact for a week -- hopefully while I'm away somebody can shed some light on this? Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi all, With some advice from Miguel I've been able to blacklist radeon, with some positive results but still a problem. Booting into the new system now doesn't display flashing lights any more, however the boot process stops with a message "ID "co" respawning too fast - disabled for 5 minutes" This message is flickering rapidly on a black screen, and nothing more happens. Pushing the power button gave a normal shutting down message followed by shutdown. Booting into rescue mode did allow me to get a root prompt which looked normal. But when I exited the root shell I got the same behavior as above. Normal launching of Gnome never happened. I should probably retry the whole install with the 2.6.x kernel instead of 3.0. I'll do this when I get time, and report. I'm not very hopeful, though. -- Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Hi Miguel and all, > Mike can you try to blacklist radeon module to see if it boots correctly? Sorry, I don't know what you mean by this -- I'm not very experienced with Linux. If you let me know how to do this I'll give it a go. Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
On 10/08/11 6:55 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote: reassign 637284 installation-reports thanks Installation reports (failure or success) should not be reported against the "Work Needing and Prospective Packages" virtual package, but against installation-reports. Ah, thanks Gergely -- I'm still new to this :-) -- Mike. It can then be reassigned from there to the appropriate package, if confirmed. I have reassigned the report to installation-reports, so it gets forwarded to the right place. -- --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac
Package: wnpp Version: Details: I used the Wheezy weekly build netinst. Installation proceeded normally, but on attempting to boot into the new system, after a number of scrolling lines, the screen started showing bands of colour and there was no further progress. I attempted to boot into rescue mode, but got the same result. I suspect that the kernel 2.6.39-2 isn't compatible with the new AMD graphics card used by these iMacs. The hardware: Hardware Overview: Model Name: iMac Model Identifier: iMac12,1 Processor Name: Intel Core i5 Processor Speed: 2.5 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores:4 L2 Cache (per core): 256 KB L3 Cache: 6 MB Memory: 4 GB Boot ROM Version: IM121.0047.B00 SMC Version (system): 1.71f21 Serial Number (system): C02FN6N9DHJF Hardware UUID:0D156747-A0C6-5AC8-B540-494834088A82 Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6750M: Chipset Model:AMD Radeon HD 6750M Type: GPU Bus: PCIe PCIe Lane Width: x16 VRAM (Total): 512 MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID:0x6741 Revision ID: 0x ROM Revision: 113-C2950H-136 EFI Driver Version: 01.00.512 Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Horemike_h...@aapt.net.au --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#437842: lists.debian.org: request creation of a debian-mediation mailing list
I support this proposal. When issues come up as has happened with Sven Luther, considerable discussion might be needed to find a solution acceptable to all parties. This discussion is vital, but can be seen as inappropriate on the other mailing lists. Experience has shown it irritates many readers and can lead to flame wars. It would be much better to have a "proper" place for this kind of essential discussion, where it would not attract criticism as being inappropriate or off-topic. Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Hore[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#414967: D-I RC2 netinstall image successfully installed on iMac G5
Package: installation-reports Boot method: Burned CD, booted CD. Image version: <http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso Date: Image from March 13, installed March 15 Machine: iMac G5, revision A Processor: PowerPC 970 Memory: 256M Partitions: boot, swap, root, OSX Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [O] Detect network card:[O] Configure network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Install base system:[O] Clock/timezone setup: [O] User/password setup:[O] Install tasks: [O] Install boot loader:[O] Overall install:[O] Comments/Problems: Absolutely trouble-free install. Was able to apt-get install kde successfully straight afterwards. Congratulations! Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Hore[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#414880: D-I RC2 netinstall image fails to install on iMac G5
Hi again Frans, On Wednesday 14 March 2007 13:35, Mike Hore wrote: Comments/Problems: Chose a basic setup (just desktop and basic system). At "installing files" stage, got to file 59 out of more than 600, then all activity ceased (no CD or network activity) and nothing further happened. Tried two different mirrors; same result. Desktop is not really "basic", it's about the most complex installation you can get :-) It still looks like a mirror problem to me. Trying again now may have solved it. Yes, it did! This time, the installation went through flawlessly, using the same mirror as last night. So I guess this isn't a real bug, and can be closed. Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Hore[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#414880: D-I RC2 netinstall image fails to install on iMac G5
Hi Frans, On Wednesday 14 March 2007 13:35, Mike Hore wrote: Comments/Problems: Chose a basic setup (just desktop and basic system). At "installing files" stage, got to file 59 out of more than 600, then all activity ceased (no CD or network activity) and nothing further happened. Tried two different mirrors; same result. Desktop is not really "basic", it's about the most complex installation you can get :-) It still looks like a mirror problem to me. Trying again now may have solved it. OK, I'll check again when I get time. Anyway, when the system stops responding, please try switching to VT4 (on PCs this is alt-F4, for Macs probably option-F4 or similar) and check the log there for any strange messages. OK, will do. (On my keyboard, option is also labelled alt so it's the same key.) If you don't see anything there, try switching to VT2 and check the output of 'dmesg' and the contents of /var/log/syslog using the editor nano (anything related to the problem should be near the end). If possible, send us the syslog (gzipped!). That'll be a bit hard since at that point I'm not installed so I have to switch back to OSX to access email. There's probably a way, but I don't know enough Linux yet... You can also check what processes are running using the 'ps' command. The last 6 or so should include the ones causing the problem. OK, thanks. Cheers, Mike. Cheers, FJP --- Mike Hore[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#414880: D-I RC2 netinstall image fails to install on iMac G5
Package: installation-reports Boot method: Burned CD, booted CD. Image version: <http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso Date: Image from March 13, install attempts March 14 Machine: iMac G5, revision A Processor: PowerPC 970 Memory: 256M Partitions: boot, swap, root, OSX Output of lspci -nn and lspci -vnn:can't run since I can't install Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [O] Detect network card:[O] Configure network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Install base system:[E] Clock/timezone setup: [ ] User/password setup:[ ] Install tasks: [ ] Install boot loader:[ ] Overall install:[ ] Comments/Problems: Chose a basic setup (just desktop and basic system). At "installing files" stage, got to file 59 out of more than 600, then all activity ceased (no CD or network activity) and nothing further happened. Tried two different mirrors; same result. Cheers, Mike. -- --- Mike Hore[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected
Hi all, I downloaded the March 9 daily build, (the server was reasonably fast this time), and it all works! The sungem driver is definitely present. So whatever happened before, it's OK now, so this bug can be closed. (I'm still investigating Gentoo, but if I get into too much strife, I'll come back to Debian.) Cheers, Mike. Hi, On Friday 09 March 2007 09:11, peter green wrote: - if it is not, try to load it manually ('modprobe sungem') FATAL: module sungem not found So it really looks to me like it isn't there, sorry! have you checked the md5sum against the one for the day your image is dated? (you can find older dailies by cutting back the image url to remove the current and everything before it and browsing manually from there) i'm thinking this may be another case of a half and half download (half one days image half the next) I think so too. I also downloaded the (ppc)-netinst on the 7th and just tried to load the sungem module from it, and it worked. So... >I had some aborted downloads, but that time I switched to an ftp client >and did it that way -- also OSX mounted the .iso file which I doubt >would have happened if it was half-and-half -- but no, I didn't check >the MD5. I probably should just try again with a later build, but the >server is so slow it takes me all night to download, and at the moment >I'm trying a Gentoo install, so I'll leave it for a while. > >Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Hore[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected
Hi Holger and others, Hi, On Friday 09 March 2007 09:11, peter green wrote: - if it is not, try to load it manually ('modprobe sungem') FATAL: module sungem not found So it really looks to me like it isn't there, sorry! have you checked the md5sum against the one for the day your image is dated? (you can find older dailies by cutting back the image url to remove the current and everything before it and browsing manually from there) i'm thinking this may be another case of a half and half download (half one days image half the next) I think so too. I also downloaded the (ppc)-netinst on the 7th and just tried to load the sungem module from it, and it worked. So... I had some aborted downloads, but that time I switched to an ftp client and did it that way -- also OSX mounted the .iso file which I doubt would have happened if it was half-and-half -- but no, I didn't check the MD5. I probably should just try again with a later build, but the server is so slow it takes me all night to download, and at the moment I'm trying a Gentoo install, so I'll leave it for a while. Cheers, Mike. ------- Mike Hore[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected
Hi again Frans, On Thursday 08 March 2007 02:30, Mike Hore wrote: 0001:03:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. Shasta (Sun GEM) [106b:0051] According to this information, your NIC needs the sungem driver, which _is_ included in the installer and should be loaded automatically. After the installer has failed to detect your NIC, please try the following: - switch to VT2 - check if the sungem module is loaded ('lsmod | grep sungem') No output. - if it is, check dmesg for any messages about the NIC I didn't see any, but there were about 2 screenfuls of info and I didn't know how to stop it scrolling off. - if it is not, try to load it manually ('modprobe sungem') FATAL: module sungem not found So it really looks to me like it isn't there, sorry! Cheers, Mike. ------- Mike Hore[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected
Hi Frans, On Wednesday 07 March 2007 03:47, Mike Hore wrote: Comments/Problems: The Ethernet connection is not detected. This machine has an 10/100BASE-T Ethernet port. I suspect the correct driver hasn't been included in the netinstall image. After network detection failed, please switch to VT2 (on a PC this is alt-F2; I guess option-F2 or something similar on Macs) and enter the following command: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet We need the PCI Id of that device, which looks like [:]. 0001:03:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. Shasta (Sun GEM) [106b:0051] Since this is a netinstall and the network can't be initialized, I couldn't proceed beyond this point. This is not true. Netinst CDs contain the full base system, so you can complete an installation without a network card. You would end up with a fairly minimal, but completely functioning system. OK, I guess that's right, if you know what you're doing, but with the little Linux I know I'm basically stuck. Now I probably should have mentioned that BEFORE the Ethernet detection attempt, I got another message to say that some kernel modules could not be found, and should I proceed without them, and the installation might fail if I proceeded. I assumed this was because I was attempting a netinstall, but for all I know that assumption might have been wrong. Cheers, Mike. --- Mike Hore[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected
Package: installation-reports Boot method: Downloaded netinstall CD image, burnt CD. Image version: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso Date: Wed Mar 7, 9am Australian Central Standard Time. Machine: Apple G5 iMac, revision A. Processor: PowerPC G5. Memory: 250M Partitions: (not relevant) Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [O] Detect network card:[E] Can't proceed any further. Comments/Problems: The Ethernet connection is not detected. This machine has an 10/100BASE-T Ethernet port. I suspect the correct driver hasn't been included in the netinstall image. Since this is a netinstall and the network can't be initialized, I couldn't proceed beyond this point. Cheers, Mike. -- --- Mike Hore[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]