Bug#385366: Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 29.06.2010, 16:18 +0100 schrieb Julien Cristau: On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 22:19:37 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: Am Montag, den 23.04.2007, 21:32 +0200 schrieb Brice Goglin: Joachim Breitner wrote: Thanks for the notice. I just enabled PageFlip again and did a quick test (running /usr/lib/xscreensaver/gears and causing some OSD action in front of it). Without PageFlip I noticed that gears continued to run just fine while with PageFlip on it slowed down considerably, but did not crash. I will keep this setting now for a while and see if it is indeed stable. So I guess that bug #385366 might be fixed. Bug #386989 needs some more testing with 3D apps. Bad news. I just ran google earth and shortly after, while doing some aggressive window-swapping, it crashed with the usual symptoms. Note that while switching, metacity draws white borders around windows using probably the same technique as OSD. Without PageFlip, this seems to be stable. This is without any packages from experimental. I will try that some other time. Is this issue still reproducible with mesa 7.7 or 7.8? I have a new machine by now, so unfortunately, I can not help you here. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer nome...@debian.org | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: nome...@joachim-breitner.de | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#386989: Bug#385366: Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 22:19:37 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, Am Montag, den 23.04.2007, 21:32 +0200 schrieb Brice Goglin: Joachim Breitner wrote: Thanks for the notice. I just enabled PageFlip again and did a quick test (running /usr/lib/xscreensaver/gears and causing some OSD action in front of it). Without PageFlip I noticed that gears continued to run just fine while with PageFlip on it slowed down considerably, but did not crash. I will keep this setting now for a while and see if it is indeed stable. So I guess that bug #385366 might be fixed. Bug #386989 needs some more testing with 3D apps. Bad news. I just ran google earth and shortly after, while doing some aggressive window-swapping, it crashed with the usual symptoms. Note that while switching, metacity draws white borders around windows using probably the same technique as OSD. Without PageFlip, this seems to be stable. This is without any packages from experimental. I will try that some other time. Is this issue still reproducible with mesa 7.7 or 7.8? Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 10:19:37PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: Bad news. I just ran google earth and shortly after, while doing some aggressive window-swapping, it crashed with the usual symptoms. Note that while switching, metacity draws white borders around windows using probably the same technique as OSD. Without PageFlip, this seems to be stable. Hi Joachim, Since you seem to have an AGP board, you might want to try adding Option BusType PCI to the Device section of your xorg.conf. It will make X use a regular PCI mode and thus might workaround some broken AGP bridges. Also playing with the AGP mode in the BIOS could help. Apart from that, there's a libgl1-mesa-dri 7.0.1 and xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.6.193 in experimental, in case it helps for any of your bugs. Cheers, Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 09.08.2007, 11:46 +0200 schrieb Brice Goglin: On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 10:19:37PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: Bad news. I just ran google earth and shortly after, while doing some aggressive window-swapping, it crashed with the usual symptoms. Note that while switching, metacity draws white borders around windows using probably the same technique as OSD. Without PageFlip, this seems to be stable. Hi Joachim, Since you seem to have an AGP board, you might want to try adding Option BusType PCI to the Device section of your xorg.conf. It will make X use a regular PCI mode and thus might workaround some broken AGP bridges. This will also degrade performance, right? Also playing with the AGP mode in the BIOS could help. Apart from that, there's a libgl1-mesa-dri 7.0.1 and xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.6.193 in experimental, in case it helps for any of your bugs. Currently, I’m running with PageFlip disabled and everything is stable. I might do some more investigation some other time, but not now, if that’s ok. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata
Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
Joachim Breitner wrote: Since you seem to have an AGP board, you might want to try adding Option BusType PCI to the Device section of your xorg.conf. It will make X use a regular PCI mode and thus might workaround some broken AGP bridges. This will also degrade performance, right? Yes, likely. Also playing with the AGP mode in the BIOS could help. Apart from that, there's a libgl1-mesa-dri 7.0.1 and xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.6.193 in experimental, in case it helps for any of your bugs. Currently, I’m running with PageFlip disabled and everything is stable. I might do some more investigation some other time, but not now, if that’s ok. Sure, that's your bug, I can live with it (apart from being sad because we have too many open bugs) :) Brice
Bug#385366: Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
Hi, Am Montag, den 23.04.2007, 21:32 +0200 schrieb Brice Goglin: Joachim Breitner wrote: Thanks for the notice. I just enabled PageFlip again and did a quick test (running /usr/lib/xscreensaver/gears and causing some OSD action in front of it). Without PageFlip I noticed that gears continued to run just fine while with PageFlip on it slowed down considerably, but did not crash. I will keep this setting now for a while and see if it is indeed stable. So I guess that bug #385366 might be fixed. Bug #386989 needs some more testing with 3D apps. Bad news. I just ran google earth and shortly after, while doing some aggressive window-swapping, it crashed with the usual symptoms. Note that while switching, metacity draws white borders around windows using probably the same technique as OSD. Without PageFlip, this seems to be stable. This is without any packages from experimental. I will try that some other time. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
Hi, Am Samstag, den 21.04.2007, 01:38 +0200 schrieb Brice Goglin: Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, because of the probably related bug 385366 I’ve disabled PageFlip, because it is my work machine and I’d rather avoid crashes. I could reconfirm that bug with the current version, though. After my last message there (16.3.), I disabled PageFlip and had neither a spurious crash nor a crash with osd. In case you have some time to look at bugs #385366 and #386989 again, xserver-xorg-core 1.3 is now in unstable with mesa 6.5.2-4. There is also xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.6.191 in experimental. Thanks for the notice. I just enabled PageFlip again and did a quick test (running /usr/lib/xscreensaver/gears and causing some OSD action in front of it). Without PageFlip I noticed that gears continued to run just fine while with PageFlip on it slowed down considerably, but did not crash. I will keep this setting now for a while and see if it is indeed stable. So I guess that bug #385366 might be fixed. Bug #386989 needs some more testing with 3D apps. By the way: Which setting is supposed to be better (as in faster)? PageFlip on or off? Thanks for your patience, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata
Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
Joachim Breitner wrote: Thanks for the notice. I just enabled PageFlip again and did a quick test (running /usr/lib/xscreensaver/gears and causing some OSD action in front of it). Without PageFlip I noticed that gears continued to run just fine while with PageFlip on it slowed down considerably, but did not crash. I will keep this setting now for a while and see if it is indeed stable. So I guess that bug #385366 might be fixed. Bug #386989 needs some more testing with 3D apps. Ok I'll wait a couple weeks and close them both if I don't hear back from you. By the way: Which setting is supposed to be better (as in faster)? PageFlip on or off? What from I understand, it's something like PageFlip improves 3D but hurts 2D... Thanks for your patience, Thanks for your patience too :) Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, because of the probably related bug 385366 I’ve disabled PageFlip, because it is my work machine and I’d rather avoid crashes. I could reconfirm that bug with the current version, though. After my last message there (16.3.), I disabled PageFlip and had neither a spurious crash nor a crash with osd. In case you have some time to look at bugs #385366 and #386989 again, xserver-xorg-core 1.3 is now in unstable with mesa 6.5.2-4. There is also xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.6.191 in experimental. Brice
Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
Hi Joachim, Is there anything new about this bug since last month? Did you reproduce it? Thanks, Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#385366: Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
Hi, because of the probably related bug 385366 I’ve disabled PageFlip, because it is my work machine and I’d rather avoid crashes. I could reconfirm that bug with the current version, though. After my last message there (16.3.), I disabled PageFlip and had neither a spurious crash nor a crash with osd. I wonder why I’m the only one observing this. Am I the only one with a T41p that had PageFlip Enabled or is it something else? Greetings, Joachim Am Mittwoch, den 28.03.2007, 23:30 +0200 schrieb Brice Goglin: Hi Joachim, Is there anything new about this bug since last month? Did you reproduce it? Thanks, Brice -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata
Bug#385366: Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 08:08 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: I wonder why I’m the only one observing this. Am I the only one with a T41p that had PageFlip Enabled or is it something else? I doubt you're the only one, it's probably just that the specific circumstances (page flipping, OSD on top of GL windows) are rare. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://tungstengraphics.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer
Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
Hi Joachim, Is there anything new about PageFlip causing freeze after a while? Did you try the latest Xorg/ATI-Driver/Mesa/Etch? If it still freezes, could you try the packages that are currently in experimental (xserver-xorg-core 2:1.2.0-3 and mesa 6.5.2-3). PageFlip has been known to be dangerous for a while (there's even a wishlist to explicitely mark it as dangerous)... Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi Brice, Am Mittwoch, den 28.02.2007, 20:22 +0100 schrieb Brice Goglin: Hi Joachim, Is there anything new about PageFlip causing freeze after a while? Did you try the latest Xorg/ATI-Driver/Mesa/Etch? If it still freezes, could you try the packages that are currently in experimental (xserver-xorg-core 2:1.2.0-3 and mesa 6.5.2-3). PageFlip has been known to be dangerous for a while (there's even a wishlist to explicitely mark it as dangerous)... I’m running three instances of “pipes” at the moment and so farno crash. They run windowed and it might have been longer until it crashed back then, but the bug might have been solved. I’d keep the bug tagged unreproducable for another while and I’ll try remember to follow up if observe another freeze, ok? That would be great, thanks. Brice
Bug#386989: PageFlip causes graphic freezes after a while
Hi Brice, Am Mittwoch, den 28.02.2007, 20:22 +0100 schrieb Brice Goglin: Hi Joachim, Is there anything new about PageFlip causing freeze after a while? Did you try the latest Xorg/ATI-Driver/Mesa/Etch? If it still freezes, could you try the packages that are currently in experimental (xserver-xorg-core 2:1.2.0-3 and mesa 6.5.2-3). PageFlip has been known to be dangerous for a while (there's even a wishlist to explicitely mark it as dangerous)... I’m running three instances of “pipes” at the moment and so farno crash. They run windowed and it might have been longer until it crashed back then, but the bug might have been solved. I’d keep the bug tagged unreproducable for another while and I’ll try remember to follow up if observe another freeze, ok? I’m running libgl1-mesa-dri 6.5.1-0.6 and xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.6.3-2 at the moment. Thanks, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata
