Bug#514208: mutt does not reconizer don't mark as old over IMAP

2009-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Package: mutt
Version: 1.5.18-4
Severity: important

Hello Maintainer,

I have set the option, that mutt does not show messages as old, if I was
in the folder and then while open another  one  and  come  back  to  the
previously.

Now, mutt does not recognizer thos messages as unread  which  it  should
since the messages where not opened...

A tcpdump show me, that courier-imap transmit the values  correctly  but
mutt does not recognizer it which  is  very  annoying,  sind  my  little
mailfolder whatcher written with libmet-imap-simple-perl does it right
and see the messages as unread...

I have set the severity the important since if your business relay on  a
working MUA, this bug is more then only annoying...

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
24V Electronic Engineer
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Bug#514208: mutt does not reconizer don't mark as old over IMAP

2009-02-05 Thread Antonio Radici

severity 514208 normal
tag 514208 +moreinfo
thanks

Hi Michelle,
we need more info for this bug.
First of all, the bug is unreproducible on my mutt (1.5.18-4), I've 
created an empty .muttrc with the following options:

---
set folder=imaps://[...]
set spoolfile=imaps://[...]
set mark_old=no
---

In this case the old flag is not displayed and the messages are still 
unread (N[ew]).


Some questions:
*) Does this happen when you open mutt or only when you switch mailbox?
*) Are your messages shown as Old when you go back to the previous 
mailbox even if mark_old is set to no?


Please attach your .muttrc.

By default mark_old is set to yes, so I'll downgrade the severity to 
'normal', but don't worry your bug will be worked as the others.


Cheers
Antonio



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Bug#514208: mutt does not reconizer don't mark as old over IMAP

2009-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-02-05 09:40:35, schrieb Antonio Radici:
 severity 514208 normal
 tag 514208 +moreinfo
 thanks

 Hi Michelle,
 we need more info for this bug.
 First of all, the bug is unreproducible on my mutt (1.5.18-4), I've  
 created an empty .muttrc with the following options:
 ---
 set folder=imaps://[...]
 set spoolfile=imaps://[...]
 set mark_old=no
 ---

 In this case the old flag is not displayed and the messages are still  
 unread (N[ew]).

Here too...

 Some questions:
 *) Does this happen when you open mutt or only when you switch mailbox?

Open and switching...

I have encountered a grave bug...  I have more then 3000 unread messages
in my mailfolders...

It seems that it has something to do with the malloc() bug...

Explanation:

I have for each mailinglist ony mailfolder like

imaps://mail.private/INBOX.ML_debian.devel/
 INBOX.ML_debian.mentors/
 INBOX.ML_debian.user-german/

all of those mailfolesr arein mailboxes with

mailboxes =.ML_debian.devel/
mailboxes =.ML_debian.mentors/
mailboxes =.ML_debian.user-german/

I have MANY mailboxes  (exactly  to  files  of  213  for  the  technic
mailinglists and 592 the standard one).

Now while mutt is checking for new mail in the boxes.  Courier-Imap move
automaticaly messages from the /new/ folder  to  the  /cur/  folder  but
unread.

Now if mutt crash because the malloc() bug it lost its memory and forget
that there are messages unread...

This sound weird, because the mark_old=no and should only affect mutt,
if it read the Maildir physicaly...

However it seems to be a misunderstanding between courier and mutt about
unread unread messages since thunderbird, libnet-imap-simple-perl  and
uw-imap-client do the right thing.

The same happen to my BTS account, in which I subscribed to any packages
I have installed on any of my computers...  687 source packages!

 *) Are your messages shown as Old when you go back to the previous  
 mailbox even if mark_old is set to no?

No, if I go manualy into the mailfolder they are shown as NEW.

 Please attach your .muttrc.

Goog luck, I will attach the whole .mutt/ directory as TAR archive...

 By default mark_old is set to yes, so I'll downgrade the severity to  
 'normal', but don't worry your bug will be worked as the others.

If I set mark_old=yes it is the same effect...  and  if  I  enter  the
folder manualy I can not use TAB to switch to the next unread messages
because they are marked O and not N...  This setting is definitively
not what I want.

Imagine, you have a folder with Business-Mail which comes in the box

INBOX.Business/

Now you have gotten a new contact and setup a new filter  and  move  the
message into it...  Now you have to search  some  other  messages  maybe
stored in another folder and move it to the new created folder.

And what happen now?  --  any other  UNREAD  messages  in  the  Business
folder are not more recognized as unread and  if  you  switch  into  the
folder manualy, you see, the messages are definitively marked as NEW N

This mean you can not more switch back to  the  folder  using  a  simple
cENTER (next folder with unread messages) which sould be  the  first
of your Business structure...

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
24V Electronic Engineer
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Bug#514208: mutt does not reconizer don't mark as old over IMAP

2009-02-05 Thread Antonio Radici

Hi Michelle,
sorry if I ask again other questions but I want to be
100% sure that we are on the same page.

As far as I understood the problem is this:
1) you open mutt and browse your mailbox
2) while you do so, courier-imap move the messages
from new/ to cur/ on the remote maildir
3) these messages are shown as unread

Now, all these things are correct.

From what I understood what happens now is that if
mutt crashes it loses the Unread status for these
messages, so they are marked as Read. Correct?

Cheers
Antonio



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Bug#514208: mutt does not reconizer don't mark as old over IMAP

2009-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Antonio,

Am 2009-02-05 12:39:34, schrieb Antonio Radici:
 Hi Michelle,
 sorry if I ask again other questions but I want to be
 100% sure that we are on the same page.

Since I have to use mutt all the day, and  we  have  the  Lenny  release
before us, I have no other chance as to help.  :-)

 As far as I understood the problem is this:
 1) you open mutt and browse your mailbox
 2) while you do so, courier-imap move the messages
 from new/ to cur/ on the remote maildir
 3) these messages are shown as unread

 Now, all these things are correct.

Right

 From what I understood what happens now is that if
 mutt crashes it loses the Unread status for these
 messages, so they are marked as Read. Correct?

No, they stay N NEW/unread

But in the next time I start mutt, it  does  not  more  recognizer  the
messages as new.  My analysis tell me, that this has  something  to  do
with header caching.

If the next crash occurs, I will remove the last  30  generated  header
cache-files and check, whether my theorie applys...

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
24V Electronic Engineer
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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