Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2010-09-28 Thread Alan BRASLAU
I find your use of the word complaining disrespectful.
A bug report serves to give feedback, and being polite
should be answered politely.

The point is that one cannot have things both ways.
Either kfreebsd is indeed to become core as the announcements
advertise (and I imagine the developers wish, otherwise
why would they be working on this?), or not.

NFS is a core functionality in many ways.
It is therefore legitimate that this bug be reported.

Alan



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Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2010-09-28 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr (28/09/2010):
 I find your use of the word complaining disrespectful.  A bug
 report serves to give feedback, and being polite should be answered
 politely.

Insisting on a particular severity regardless of the maintainer's
opinion is disrespectful. (Oh wait, the maintainers are even porters,
so maybe they can figure out which severity is appropriate?)

 NFS is a core functionality in many ways. It is therefore legitimate
 that this bug be reported.

That doesn't mean people can annoy maintainers until the feature is
implemented.

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Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2010-09-28 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Tuesday 28 September 2010 10:54:26 Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr (28/09/2010):
  I find your use of the word complaining disrespectful.  A bug
  report serves to give feedback, and being polite should be answered
  politely.
 
 Insisting on a particular severity regardless of the maintainer's
 opinion is disrespectful. (Oh wait, the maintainers are even porters,
 so maybe they can figure out which severity is appropriate?)
 
  NFS is a core functionality in many ways. It is therefore legitimate
  that this bug be reported.
 
 That doesn't mean people can annoy maintainers until the feature is
 implemented.
 

So sensitive!

All one asks for is politeness. The use of complaining, annoying,
etc. shows no respect for the community. Do developers really
want to be isolated, or are they indeed interested in getting
feedback from users/testers?

A bug report reflects needs. Maintainers can politely give information
on meeting these needs (or on the inappropriateness/marginality of
these particular needs).

The problem with the current issue is that the maintainers/promoters
of kfreebsd ask about fitness for release and would somehow like
for this kernel to be adopted by part of the community.
Functionality so basic (and so long-standing) as NFS should be included.

I suppose that the porting is not so trivial, otherwise it would
already be included. But much contradictory information
on this question can be found on the web, including messages
from maintainers claiming that it is there!
The purpose of the bug report is to clarify the situation,
not to provoke over-sensitive reactions on the part of developers.
Tit-for-tat responses are indeed unproductive and demotivating.
Such reactions show annoyance, and annoyance reveals unease.

Alan



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Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2010-09-28 Thread Robert Millan
Please can you guys take this off-list. Thanks.

2010/9/28, Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr:
 On Tuesday 28 September 2010 10:54:26 Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr (28/09/2010):
  I find your use of the word complaining disrespectful.  A bug
  report serves to give feedback, and being polite should be answered
  politely.

 Insisting on a particular severity regardless of the maintainer's
 opinion is disrespectful. (Oh wait, the maintainers are even porters,
 so maybe they can figure out which severity is appropriate?)

  NFS is a core functionality in many ways. It is therefore legitimate
  that this bug be reported.

 That doesn't mean people can annoy maintainers until the feature is
 implemented.


 So sensitive!

 All one asks for is politeness. The use of complaining, annoying,
 etc. shows no respect for the community. Do developers really
 want to be isolated, or are they indeed interested in getting
 feedback from users/testers?

 A bug report reflects needs. Maintainers can politely give information
 on meeting these needs (or on the inappropriateness/marginality of
 these particular needs).

 The problem with the current issue is that the maintainers/promoters
 of kfreebsd ask about fitness for release and would somehow like
 for this kernel to be adopted by part of the community.
 Functionality so basic (and so long-standing) as NFS should be included.

 I suppose that the porting is not so trivial, otherwise it would
 already be included. But much contradictory information
 on this question can be found on the web, including messages
 from maintainers claiming that it is there!
 The purpose of the bug report is to clarify the situation,
 not to provoke over-sensitive reactions on the part of developers.
 Tit-for-tat responses are indeed unproductive and demotivating.
 Such reactions show annoyance, and annoyance reveals unease.

 Alan



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Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2010-07-07 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Alan BRASLAU a écrit :
 On Tuesday 06 July 2010 18:49:52 Aurelien Jarno wrote:
 If some users consider the use of NFS very important, they can probably
 help to solve this issue.
 
 They are, by very patiently (and politely) filing bug reports.
 Also by spending time testing.
 
 Not all are programmers, neither having the skills nor the time
 to look into details.
 

Exactly, that's why users should wait for a programmer to have the time
instead of complaining.


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Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2010-07-06 Thread Alan BRASLAU
http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20091007

``
Debian pushes development of kFreeBSD port
October 7th, 2009
The Debian Release Team is pleased to announce that it sees the port of the 
Debian system to the FreeBSD kernel fit to be handled equal with the other 
release ports. The upcoming release codenamed 'Squeeze' is planned to be the 
first Debian distribution to be released with Linux and FreeBSD kernels.

The kFreeBSD architectures for the AMD64/Intel EM64T and i386 processor 
architectures are now release architectures. Severe bugs on these 
architectures will be considered release critical the same way as bugs on 
other architectures like armel or i386 are. If a particular package does not 
build or work properly on such an architecture this problem is considered 
release-critical.
''

A missing mount_nfs makes kFreeBSD pretty incomplete for use.
The answers in this bug report makes the news announcement
pretty misleading. Furthermore, the handling the problem in such a way

 At most important, but may be even just wishlist:

 I assume you did notice “package maintainer's or release manager's
 opinion” here. Which of them are you? No need for severity ping pong.

is pretty unfair for the good intention of users who are willing
to follow Debian in this direction. A reasonable interpretation
of the text of the news announcement would even make this issue
release-critical.

See also:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/2010/01/msg00099.html

 Re: NFS on Debian GNU/kFreeBSD?
 To: The Anarcat anar...@koumbit.org
 Cc: debian-...@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: NFS on Debian GNU/kFreeBSD?
 From: Aurelien Jarno aurel...@aurel32.net
 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:16:04 +0100
 Message-id: 20100121091604.gc16...@hall.aurel32.net
 In-reply-to: 20100121015022.gf27...@anarcat.ath.cx
 References: 20100121015022.gf27...@anarcat.ath.cx
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 08:50:22PM -0500, The Anarcat wrote:
  Hi!
  
  I wonder if there are any plans to support NFS in Debian GNU/kFreeBSD.
  At any rate, how would it be supported? nfs-utils is probably not the
  right way, so I guess we'd need to port something from FreeBSD directly?
  
 
 mount_nfs is available in freebsd-utils, so you can easily do NFS mounts
 using using mount -t nfs.
 
 
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Wishlist, fantasy, or serious?

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Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2010-07-06 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Alan BRASLAU a écrit :
 http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20091007
 
 ``
 Debian pushes development of kFreeBSD port
 October 7th, 2009
 The Debian Release Team is pleased to announce that it sees the port of the 
 Debian system to the FreeBSD kernel fit to be handled equal with the other 
 release ports. The upcoming release codenamed 'Squeeze' is planned to be the 
 first Debian distribution to be released with Linux and FreeBSD kernels.
 
 The kFreeBSD architectures for the AMD64/Intel EM64T and i386 processor 
 architectures are now release architectures. Severe bugs on these 
 architectures will be considered release critical the same way as bugs on 
 other architectures like armel or i386 are. If a particular package does not 
 build or work properly on such an architecture this problem is considered 
 release-critical.
 ''
 
 A missing mount_nfs makes kFreeBSD pretty incomplete for use.
 The answers in this bug report makes the news announcement
 pretty misleading. Furthermore, the handling the problem in such a way
 
 At most important, but may be even just wishlist:
 
 I assume you did notice “package maintainer's or release manager's
 opinion” here. Which of them are you? No need for severity ping pong.
 
 is pretty unfair for the good intention of users who are willing
 to follow Debian in this direction. A reasonable interpretation
 of the text of the news announcement would even make this issue
 release-critical.
 

If some users consider the use of NFS very important, they can probably
help to solve this issue.

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Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2010-07-06 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Tuesday 06 July 2010 18:49:52 Aurelien Jarno wrote:
 
 If some users consider the use of NFS very important, they can probably
 help to solve this issue.

They are, by very patiently (and politely) filing bug reports.
Also by spending time testing.

Not all are programmers, neither having the skills nor the time
to look into details.

Alan



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Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2010-04-11 Thread Jari Aalto
found 549412 8.0-10
thanks


 when trying to mount nfs filesystems, it appears to be missing the
 mount_nfs
 command:
 
   mount 127.0.0.1:/opt/ltsp /mnt
   mount: exec mount_nfs not found: No such file or directory
 

Any progress? This also happens in vanilla install of:

http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/kfreebsd-i386/20100221-11:20/monolithic/

Jari



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Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2010-04-11 Thread Jari Aalto
severity 549412 serious
thanks

Makes the installation unusable in a typical network. E.g. can't mount
the /home disk from a remote server.



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Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2010-04-11 Thread Jari Aalto
 Makes the installation unusable in a typical network. E.g. can't mount
 the /home disk from a remote server.

 Petr Salinger petr.salin...@seznam.cz writes:
 severity 549412 important
 thanks

 At most important, but may be even just wishlist:

A missing NFS support is unsuitable for release.

 serious
 is a severe violation of Debian policy (roughly, it violates a must or
 required directive), or, in the package maintainer's or release
 manager's opinion, makes the package unsuitable for release.

As described above

 The mount_nfs command is still provided only by freebsd-hackedutils:

 http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/pool-kfreebsd-i386/main/f/freebsd-hackedutils/freebsd-hackedutils_6.1-4_kfreebsd-i386.deb
 http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/pool-kfreebsd-amd64/main/f/freebsd-hackedutils/freebsd-hackedutils_6.1-4_kfreebsd-amd64.deb

freebsd-hackedutils is not available from repositories testing or
unstable.

Jari



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Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2010-04-11 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Jari Aalto jari.aa...@cante.net (11/04/2010):
  Petr Salinger petr.salin...@seznam.cz writes:
  severity 549412 important

Yes.

 A missing NFS support is unsuitable for release.

No.

  serious
  is a severe violation of Debian policy (roughly, it violates a must or
  required directive), or, in the package maintainer's or release
  manager's opinion, makes the package unsuitable for release.
 
 As described above

I assume you did notice “package maintainer's or release manager's
opinion” here. Which of them are you? No need for severity ping pong.

  The mount_nfs command is still provided only by freebsd-hackedutils:
 
  http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/pool-kfreebsd-i386/main/f/freebsd-hackedutils/freebsd-hackedutils_6.1-4_kfreebsd-i386.deb
  http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/pool-kfreebsd-amd64/main/f/freebsd-hackedutils/freebsd-hackedutils_6.1-4_kfreebsd-amd64.deb
 
 freebsd-hackedutils is not available from repositories testing or
 unstable.

That's what Petr wrote.

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Bug#549412: freebsd-utils: fails to mount nfs: mount_nfs not found

2009-10-03 Thread Vagrant Cascadian
Package: freebsd-utils
Version: 7.2-8
Severity: normal

when trying to mount nfs filesystems, it appears to be missing the mount_nfs
command:

  mount 127.0.0.1:/opt/ltsp /mnt
  mount: exec mount_nfs not found: No such file or directory


there appear to be commented out entries in debian/rules, but uncommenting them
and attempting to build myself resulted in:

mount_nfs.c:229: warning: no previous prototype for ‘usage’
mount_nfs.c: In function ‘usage’:
mount_nfs.c:229: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘__dead2’
mount_nfs.c:246: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before 
‘{’ token
...snip...
mount_nfs.c:1172: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ 
before ‘{’ token
mount_nfs.c:1179: error: old-style parameter declarations in prototyped 
function definition
mount_nfs.c:1179: error: expected ‘{’ at end of input
*** Error code 1 
 
Stop in /home/bsd/freebsd-utils-7.2/sbin/mount_nfs.
make: *** [freebsd-utils-stamp] Error 1
dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2
debuild: fatal error at line 1324:
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc failed


thanks for working on Debian GNU/kFreeBSD!

live well,
  vagrant



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