Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-10-23 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Mike Hore wrote:
 Hi Jonathan,
 Mike Hore wrote:

 I would expect that the latest fixes would only be in Testing.  Is
 this right?

 Nah, the network driver was updated in Stable[2].
[...]
 Well, I found I'd accidentally left myself an unused partition :-)
 So I went ahead and did a regular install using the current weekly build
 netinst iso.

 Unfortunately, the problem(s) is/are still there.

Sure, I had no reason to believe the hang was fixed in wheezy.  What
changed is that stable gained an updated network driver; I had been
hoping to see whether _that_ worked.

If it did, it would be possible to confirm, by upgrading only the kernel,
linux-base, and initramfs-tools[1]:

 1. That it's the kernel that broke on this hardware in sid, not some
userland component

 2. Whether installing the firmware-linux-nonfree package helps

 3. As a bonus, which version of the kernel introduced the trouble (by
bisecting through the available kernels in snapshot.debian.org)

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-10-23 Thread Mike Hore

Hi Jonathan,


Mike Hore wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

Mike Hore wrote:



I would expect that the latest fixes would only be in Testing.  Is
this right?


Nah, the network driver was updated in Stable[2].

[...]

Well, I found I'd accidentally left myself an unused partition :-)
So I went ahead and did a regular install using the current weekly build
netinst iso.

Unfortunately, the problem(s) is/are still there.


Sure, I had no reason to believe the hang was fixed in wheezy.  What
changed is that stable gained an updated network driver; I had been
hoping to see whether _that_ worked.


OK, I'll get a blank DVD today and see if the live image works.

-- Mike.




If it did, it would be possible to confirm, by upgrading only the kernel,
linux-base, and initramfs-tools[1]:

  1. That it's the kernel that broke on this hardware in sid, not some
 userland component

  2. Whether installing the firmware-linux-nonfree package helps

  3. As a bonus, which version of the kernel introduced the trouble (by
 bisecting through the available kernels in snapshot.debian.org)

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental
.




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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-10-23 Thread Mike Hore

Hi again Jonathan,

...

Sure, I had no reason to believe the hang was fixed in wheezy. What
changed is that stable gained an updated network driver; I had been
hoping to see whether _that_ worked.


OK, I'll get a blank DVD today and see if the live image works.


Good news -- it works!!

I downloaded the KDE version, and on booting the DVD got to the KDE 
desktop with no problems at all.  (I would need to update the list of 
screen resolutions to get the aspect ratio right, but no big deal, and 
the sound sounds a bit tinny, but we have a running system.)


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-10-22 Thread Mike Hore

Hi Jonathan,


Mike Hore wrote:


it appears the live images are only for
Stable.


Yeah, it seems so at the moment[1].


I would expect that the latest fixes would only be in Testing.  Is
this right?


Nah, the network driver was updated in Stable[2].


(And you're right, I don't want to disrupt my working system,
and especially not to muck around with my partitions.)


I don't blame you. :)


Well, I found I'd accidentally left myself an unused partition :-)
So I went ahead and did a regular install using the current weekly build 
netinst iso.


Unfortunately, the problem(s) is/are still there.  I got EXACTLY the 
behavior I reported above.  Scrambled video, so I did a rescue mode boot 
and installed the updated driver as I described in an earlier message. 
This let the boot proceed past this point, but it hung with the flashing 
text on the screen, just as I described earlier.


So sorry, it's not fixed.  I might give the live image a go when I get 
time, but in view of what's happened I'm not very hopeful.


But as I have a running system under VirtualBox, I'm happy as far as 
that goes.  I guess most users of new Macs would want to use OSX as well 
as Debian, and VirtualBox or one of the other virtualizers would 
definitely be the way to go.


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-10-20 Thread Jonathan Nieder
tags 637284 + moreinfo
quit

Mike Hore wrote:
 Hi Jonathan,

 Just curious: did you ever try a CD from the last point release (6.0.3),
 which includes the appropriate network drivers?
[...]
 OK, I might try that when I get time (not sure when though).

Marking accordingly.  We can investigate this the next time someone
reports on an attempt to run Debian on this hardware.

Thanks,
Jonathan



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-10-19 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hey,

Mike Hore wrote:

 Just an update -- somebody put me on to Virtual Box, and it works!

Just curious: did you ever try a CD from the last point release (6.0.3),
which includes the appropriate network drivers?

If you're interested, one way to test would be to try with Debian
Live[1], to avoid disrupting a working system.

Jonathan

[1] http://www.debian.org/CD/live/



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-10-19 Thread Mike Hore

Hi Jonathan,


Hey,

Mike Hore wrote:


Just an update -- somebody put me on to Virtual Box, and it works!


Just curious: did you ever try a CD from the last point release (6.0.3),
which includes the appropriate network drivers?


No, I haven't tried it since I've been tied up on other things.



If you're interested, one way to test would be to try with Debian
Live[1], to avoid disrupting a working system.

Jonathan

[1] http://www.debian.org/CD/live/


OK, I might try that when I get time (not sure when though).

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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-10-18 Thread Mike Hore
Just an update -- somebody put me on to Virtual Box, and it works!  It's 
free for non-commercial use, and has allowed me to bypass this problem 
completely.  I could install directly off the weekly build ISO file 
without needing to burn a CD, and use the default installation, and 
everything ran without a hitch.


Having Debian running as a guest OS makes it trivial to switch between 
systems without any dual-booting hassles.


So for anybody wanting to run both OSX and Debian on a new iMac, I'd 
recomment this route.


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-25 Thread Mike Hore

I wrote:

 So possibly the Broadcom driver is the culprit here, though I could
 do a net install without problems.

What I meant is that the installer ran without apparent problems.  I 
still can't boot into the new system.  I didn't mean to sound like I had 
a successful installation - I don't.  Apparently we still can't install 
wheezy onto these iMacs, or at least I haven't heard from anybody who's 
done it successfully.


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-24 Thread Mike Hore

Hi Jonathan and all,

I think I've verified that there are two separate issues here -- the 
problem with the radeon video driver, and something else that causes the 
boot to lock up.


I located the correct driver:

http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-11-8-x86.x86_64.run

I downloaded this and put it on my external drive.  I then booted into 
rescue mode (so I got a root shell).  I mounted the external drive.  I 
had to chmod to make the driver installer executable, then ran it.  The 
driver installation apparently ran normally.


Then I removed the blacklisting for radeon.  After that, I could reboot 
and the flashing lights problem had gone away.  However the boot still 
locks up, with rapidly flashing messages on the screen like I described 
earlier.  However now, in rescue mode, the messages are all about eth0 
being up.  So possibly the Broadcom driver is the culprit here, though I 
could do a net install without problems.


But at least I think I now have the correct video driver installed.  A 
problem will be that this isn't free in the Debian sense.  I didn't have 
to pay anything, but it's not free the way Debian means free.  So I 
don't know what issues this might raise for getting a new installer that 
really works for these iMacs.


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-23 Thread Mike Hore

Hi again Jonathan,


Mike Hore wrote:


Ummm...  Mac keyboards don't have scroll lock!


It seems that scroll lock is shift+f14.


Nope, that has no effect whatsoever.




Yes, single WAS there!!  Let me double-check...

yes, what I said was what happened.  Both single and quiet were there. The
actual line printed was

Starting GNOME Display Manager: gdm3


Weird.  I have no idea what happened there.


Right.  Running again with quiet off, once it starts rapidly flashing 
messages without progressing, I was able to read these lines:


usb 2-1.4: usbfs: interface 2 claimed by usb-storage while 'usb' sets 
config #1


usb 2-1.4: usbfs: process 2008(usb) did not claim interface 0 before use

I have no idea what these lines mean.  The other flashing lines releated 
to eth0, but I didn't copy them down.




There should be entries from recovery mode in the boot menu, too,
with similar effect.  Maybe that's worth a try. :/
.


I don't know that I want to try any more -- I seem to be getting 
nowhere.  I think it might need someone who really understands the 
Debian boot process to get their hands on a new iMac and sort this whole 
thing out.  There are plenty of them around by now.  I've got a lot of 
other things on my plate and this isn't a high priority for me.


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-23 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Mike Hore wrote:

 I don't know that I want to try any more -- I seem to be getting nowhere.  I
 think it might need someone who really understands the Debian boot process
 to get their hands on a new iMac and sort this whole thing out.  There are
 plenty of them around by now.  I've got a lot of other things on my plate
 and this isn't a high priority for me.

Might also be worth asking on debian-u...@lists.debian.org if anyone has
tried installing on a 2011 iMac.

Sorry for the trouble and thanks for testing.  As you saw with e.g.
the co bug, we're not at a stage in the release cycle when the
installer is completely polished yet.  So at the moment, using the
squeeze installer and then upgrading is more likely to be reliable.

If you do get a working installation, I would still be very interested
in tracking down the radeon modesetting trouble (e.g., by taking a
snapshot of the screen with artifacts and recovering any log entries
that appear before then).  I suspect the cause is similar to
Bug#637943 (modesetting not working correctly without
firmware-linux-nonfree installed).



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-23 Thread Mike Hore

Hi Jonathan,


Mike Hore wrote:


I don't know that I want to try any more -- I seem to be getting nowhere.  I
think it might need someone who really understands the Debian boot process
to get their hands on a new iMac and sort this whole thing out.  There are
plenty of them around by now.  I've got a lot of other things on my plate
and this isn't a high priority for me.


Might also be worth asking on debian-u...@lists.debian.org if anyone has
tried installing on a 2011 iMac.


I did earlier on -- I got no replies for over a week even though I 
followed up my own posts several times.  I concluded nobody else had 
even tried at that stage.  I might give it a month and then try again.





Sorry for the trouble and thanks for testing.  As you saw with e.g.
the co bug, we're not at a stage in the release cycle when the
installer is completely polished yet.  So at the moment, using the
squeeze installer and then upgrading is more likely to be reliable.


That was the first thing I tried a while ago -- then somebody suggested 
I try the latest installer which is what I did.




If you do get a working installation, I would still be very interested
in tracking down the radeon modesetting trouble (e.g., by taking a
snapshot of the screen with artifacts and recovering any log entries
that appear before then).  I suspect the cause is similar to
Bug#637943 (modesetting not working correctly without
firmware-linux-nonfree installed).


Hmmm - interesting.  I might check Ubuntu forums too.  But I'm not in a 
particular hurry -- I've just installed MacOSX 10.7 (Lion) and I've got 
heaps of other things to keep busy with  :-)


Cheers,  Mike.


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-23 Thread Mike Hore

Hi again Jonathan,


 Hmmm - interesting.  I might check Ubuntu forums too.

The same problem has shown up there too:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1578342

Some fixes have been posted on that thread.  I can't really take the 
time to apply them all myself, but it probably suggests a way forward.


My suggestion would be for this bug to stand until a fix has been rolled 
into a new installer, so that we can do a straightforward installation 
on these machines.  Hopefully this can be done.


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-23 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Mike Hore wrote:
 Hi Jonathan,

 at the moment, using the
 squeeze installer and then upgrading is more likely to be reliable.

 That was the first thing I tried a while ago -- then somebody suggested I
 try the latest installer which is what I did.

Based on [1] it looks like the fix to http://bugs.debian.org/627705
should help once it hits squeeze.

[...]
 But I'm not in a
 particular hurry -- I've just installed MacOSX 10.7 (Lion) and I've got
 heaps of other things to keep busy with  :-)

Sure, makes sense.  Have fun with the new computer. :)

[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/414937



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-22 Thread Mike Hore

Hi Jonathan,


Mike Hore wrote:

Hi Jonathan,



That is bug #636040 (finish-install: hvc0 console added to inittab
even when not available), which seems to be mostly harmless.  It
should be safe to remove the co: line to remove the message about
spawning getty there.


Are you suggesting I do that?


Nah, it doesn't matter.  The co: line I was referring to is a line
starting with the text co: in /etc/inittab.


OK, no worries.




[...]

That is probably gdm or the X server coping poorly with the radeon driver
failing to load.  Please add 1 or single (as a separate word, no
quotes) to the kernel command line at bootup so we can see if a
non-graphical bootup works.


OK, same problem.  Where and what is that kernel command line so I can add
to it?


It's in the GRUB menu presented at bootup.  You can edit it like this:

  1. Use arrow keys to choose the kernel you want to boot.
  2. Press e to reveal its settings.
  3. Move the cursor to the line that starts with linux and edit the
 options there as desired (e.g., to add 1 and remove quiet).

Sorry for the lack of clarity.


That's OK.  Here's what happened:

I added single and removed quiet.  The boot then proceeded till I 
got a flashing line at the top of the screen saying


lp: driver loaded but no devices found

alternating very rapidly with another line I couldn't read.  No further 
progress.


Then I rebooted and this time left quiet there.  The boot proceeded 
till it said


GNOME display manager loading

Then there was one other line for about 1/10 sec and then just a blank 
screen with a flashing cursor at the top.  No further progress.


In both cases typing keys had no effect, and I had to push the power 
button to force a shutdown.


Hope you can make some sense of this...


Cheers,  Mike.


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-22 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Mike Hore wrote:

 I added single and removed quiet.  The boot then proceeded till I got a
 flashing line at the top of the screen saying

 lp: driver loaded but no devices found

 alternating very rapidly with another line I couldn't read.  No further
 progress.

Maybe scroll lock can stop it.

[...]
 Then I rebooted and this time left quiet there.  The boot proceeded till
 it said

 GNOME display manager loading

I assume there was no single this time?  (gdm should not be getting
loaded in single-user mode.)



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-22 Thread Mike Hore

Hi Jonathan,


Mike Hore wrote:


I added single and removed quiet.  The boot then proceeded till I got a
flashing line at the top of the screen saying

lp: driver loaded but no devices found

alternating very rapidly with another line I couldn't read.  No further
progress.


Maybe scroll lock can stop it.


Ummm...  Mac keyboards don't have scroll lock!



[...]

Then I rebooted and this time left quiet there.  The boot proceeded till
it said

GNOME display manager loading


I assume there was no single this time?  (gdm should not be getting
loaded in single-user mode.)


Yes, single WAS there!!  Let me double-check...

yes, what I said was what happened.  Both single and quiet were there. 
The actual line printed was


Starting GNOME Display Manager: gdm3

Then there were a couple of lines that flashed on and off very quickly 
-- I saw the words bluetooth and daemon there.  Then a blank screen 
with flashing cursor.


Any bright ideas?

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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-22 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Mike Hore wrote:

 Ummm...  Mac keyboards don't have scroll lock!

It seems that scroll lock is shift+f14.

 Yes, single WAS there!!  Let me double-check...

 yes, what I said was what happened.  Both single and quiet were there. The
 actual line printed was

 Starting GNOME Display Manager: gdm3

Weird.  I have no idea what happened there.

There should be entries from recovery mode in the boot menu, too,
with similar effect.  Maybe that's worth a try. :/



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-21 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi Mike,

Mike Hore wrote:

 It was simpler than I thought -- I've got those files for you now, so I'll
 attach the zipped archive.

Nice.  From inittab:

co:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty hvc0 9600 linux

From the installer log:

finish-install: Setting up virtualized serial console on /dev/hvc0
finish-install: adding console to /etc/inittab

That is bug #636040 (finish-install: hvc0 console added to inittab
even when not available), which seems to be mostly harmless.  It
should be safe to remove the co: line to remove the message about
spawning getty there.

From syslog:

gdm3[1777]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.038594 seconds
gdm3[1777]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.039019 seconds
gdm3[1777]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.038234 seconds
[...]

That is probably gdm or the X server coping poorly with the radeon driver
failing to load.  Please add 1 or single (as a separate word, no
quotes) to the kernel command line at bootup so we can see if a
non-graphical bootup works.  If it works, then it is probably worth
trying to log in on the console and running modprobe radeon and then
sending logs (/var/log/dmesg) and a photograph of the artifacts.
netconsole[1] or a serial console[2] could help to recover messages if
they aren't getting logged properly before rebooting.

[1] http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt
[2] http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/serial-console.txt



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-21 Thread Mike Hore

Hi Jonathan,


Hi Mike,

Mike Hore wrote:


It was simpler than I thought -- I've got those files for you now, so I'll
attach the zipped archive.


Nice.  From inittab:

co:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty hvc0 9600 linux


From the installer log:


finish-install: Setting up virtualized serial console on /dev/hvc0
finish-install: adding console to /etc/inittab

That is bug #636040 (finish-install: hvc0 console added to inittab
even when not available), which seems to be mostly harmless.  It
should be safe to remove the co: line to remove the message about
spawning getty there.


Are you suggesting I do that?  Sorry, I have a software development 
background but not on Linux, so I don't know where that line is to 
remove it.





From syslog:


gdm3[1777]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.038594 seconds
gdm3[1777]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.039019 seconds
gdm3[1777]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.038234 seconds
[...]

That is probably gdm or the X server coping poorly with the radeon driver
failing to load.  Please add 1 or single (as a separate word, no
quotes) to the kernel command line at bootup so we can see if a
non-graphical bootup works.



OK, same problem.  Where and what is that kernel command line so I can 
add to it?




If it works, then it is probably worth
trying to log in on the console and running modprobe radeon and then
sending logs (/var/log/dmesg) and a photograph of the artifacts.


Yes, I can do that if I get that far.



netconsole[1] or a serial console[2] could help to recover messages if
they aren't getting logged properly before rebooting.

[1] http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt
[2] http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/serial-console.txt
.



Thanks -- if you can point me in the right direction I'll try your 
suggestions.


Cheers,  Mike.


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-21 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Mike Hore wrote:
 Hi Jonathan,

 That is bug #636040 (finish-install: hvc0 console added to inittab
 even when not available), which seems to be mostly harmless.  It
 should be safe to remove the co: line to remove the message about
 spawning getty there.

 Are you suggesting I do that?

Nah, it doesn't matter.  The co: line I was referring to is a line
starting with the text co: in /etc/inittab.

[...]
 That is probably gdm or the X server coping poorly with the radeon driver
 failing to load.  Please add 1 or single (as a separate word, no
 quotes) to the kernel command line at bootup so we can see if a
 non-graphical bootup works.

 OK, same problem.  Where and what is that kernel command line so I can add
 to it?

It's in the GRUB menu presented at bootup.  You can edit it like this:

 1. Use arrow keys to choose the kernel you want to boot.
 2. Press e to reveal its settings.
 3. Move the cursor to the line that starts with linux and edit the
options there as desired (e.g., to add 1 and remove quiet).

Sorry for the lack of clarity.

[...]
 Thanks -- if you can point me in the right direction I'll try your
 suggestions.

Thanks for the quick feedback.

Cheers,
Jonathan



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-20 Thread Mike Hore
Hi all -- I'm back now, so I'll be available to try anything that 
anybody suggests.  It would be good to get this sorted out.


In case there's an issue with the keyboard and/or USB, the install 
process doesn't seem to recognise the USB keyboard, but when I accept 
the default generic keyboard, the install proceeds normally.


I'll paste a dump of the USB hardware below, in case it's relevant.

Cheers,  Mike.



USB High-Speed Bus:

  Host Controller Location: Built-in USB
  Host Controller Driver:   AppleUSBEHCI
  PCI Device ID:0x1c2d
  PCI Revision ID:  0x0005
  PCI Vendor ID:0x8086
  Bus Number:   0xfa

FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in):

  Product ID:   0x850b
  Vendor ID:0x05ac  (Apple Inc.)
  Version:   7.55
  Serial Number:CCGB410L7WDDJPFX
  Speed:Up to 480 Mb/sec
  Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
  Location ID:  0xfa20 / 3
  Current Available (mA):   500
  Current Required (mA):500

Hub:

  Product ID:   0x2514
  Vendor ID:0x0424  (SMSC)
  Version:   0.03
  Speed:Up to 480 Mb/sec
  Location ID:  0xfa10 / 2
  Current Available (mA):   500
  Current Required (mA):2

Hub in Apple Pro Keyboard:

  Product ID:   0x1003
  Vendor ID:0x05ac  (Apple Inc.)
  Version:   4.00
  Speed:Up to 12 Mb/sec
  Manufacturer: Mitsumi Electric
  Location ID:  0xfa13 / 5
  Current Available (mA):   500
  Current Required (mA):50

Composite Device:

  Product ID:   0x0461
  Vendor ID:0x04d9  (Holtek Semiconductor, Inc.)
  Version:   1.00
  Speed:Up to 1.5 Mb/sec
  Location ID:  0xfa132000 / 9
  Current Available (mA):   100
  Current Required (mA):100

Apple Pro Keyboard:

  Product ID:   0x020b
  Vendor ID:0x05ac  (Apple Inc.)
  Version:   4.00
  Speed:Up to 12 Mb/sec
  Manufacturer: Mitsumi Electric
  Location ID:  0xfa133000 / 8
  Current Available (mA):   250
  Current Required (mA):50

BRCM2046 Hub:

  Product ID:   0x4500
  Vendor ID:0x0a5c  (Broadcom Corp.)
  Version:   1.00
  Speed:Up to 12 Mb/sec
  Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
  Location ID:  0xfa11 / 4
  Current Available (mA):   500
  Current Required (mA):0

Bluetooth USB Host Controller:

  Product ID:   0x8215
  Vendor ID:0x05ac  (Apple Inc.)
  Version:   1.91
  Serial Number:040CCE25B674
  Speed:Up to 12 Mb/sec
  Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
  Location ID:  0xfa111000 / 6
  Current Available (mA):   500
  Current Required (mA):0



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-20 Thread Jonathan Nieder
found 637284 linux-2.6/3.0.0-1
quit

Hi Mike,

Mike Hore wrote:

 Hi all -- I'm back now, so I'll be available to try anything that anybody
 suggests.  It would be good to get this sorted out.

What kernel version do you use?  Do you still have to blacklist the
radeon module to get as far as you do in booting up?

The other problem you mentioned (/sbin/getty not starting) is not yet
phrased as a kernel bug, so I'm not sure how to move forward on
tracking it down.  Is it possible to retrieve logs (like
/var/log/kern.log, /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/installer) from the
system that fails to boot?



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-20 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Jonathan Nieder wrote:

 Is it possible to retrieve logs (like
 /var/log/kern.log, /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/installer) from the
 system that fails to boot?

While at it, /etc/inittab would be helpful, too.



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-20 Thread Mike Hore

Hi Jonathan,


...
What kernel version do you use?  Do you still have to blacklist the
radeon module to get as far as you do in booting up?


I've used both 2.6.xx (maybe 39?) and 3.0 and got the same results. 
Yes, I do have to blacklist radeon, under both kernels.  I think this 
might be a separate issue.




The other problem you mentioned (/sbin/getty not starting) is not yet
phrased as a kernel bug, so I'm not sure how to move forward on
tracking it down.  Is it possible to retrieve logs (like
/var/log/kern.log, /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/installer) from the
system that fails to boot?


OK - I think I can do a rescue mode boot and get into a shell, so I'll 
see if I can get these files -- and also /etc/inittab.  I'll probably 
have to mount my external drive so I have somewhere to copy them to. 
I'm going to be a bit busy in the next day or two but I'll do this when 
I can get to it.


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-14 Thread Mike Hore

I wrote:

 I should probably retry the whole install with the 2.6.x
 kernel instead of 3.0.  I'll do this when I get time, and
 report.

I was able to try this, but I got EXACTLY the same problem when I tried 
to boot into the new system.


I'm going to be away and out of contact for a week -- hopefully while 
I'm away somebody can shed some light on this?


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-14 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi,

Mike Hore wrote:

 Booting into the new system now doesn't display flashing lights any 
 more, however the boot process stops with a message
 ID co respawning too fast - disabled for 5 minutes

That means /sbin/getty is failing to start.  d-i team, any ideas what
could be causing this?



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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-13 Thread Mike Hore

Hi all,
With some advice from Miguel I've been able to blacklist radeon, with 
some positive results but still a problem.


Booting into the new system now doesn't display flashing lights any 
more, however the boot process stops with a message

ID co respawning too fast - disabled for 5 minutes

This message is flickering rapidly on a black screen, and nothing more 
happens.  Pushing the power button gave a normal shutting down message 
followed by shutdown.  Booting into rescue mode did allow me to get a 
root prompt which looked normal.  But when I exited the root shell I got 
the same behavior as above.  Normal launching of Gnome never happened.


I should probably retry the whole install with the 2.6.x kernel instead 
of 3.0.  I'll do this when I get time, and report.  I'm not very 
hopeful, though.


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-11 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
Hi all,

according Mike the same happens with the daily buids (11 Aug).
Installs ok and after booting graphical problems in normal and rescue mode.
Hence i am reassigning to package linux-2.6.

Mike can you try to blacklist radeon module to see if it boots correctly?

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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-11 Thread Mike Hore

Hi Miguel and all,

 Mike can you try to blacklist radeon module to see if it boots correctly?

Sorry, I don't know what you mean by this -- I'm not very experienced 
with Linux.  If you let me know how to do this I'll give it a go.


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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-10 Thread Mike Hore

Package: wnpp
Version:

Details:
I used the Wheezy weekly build netinst.
Installation proceeded normally, but on attempting to boot into the new 
system, after a number of scrolling lines, the screen started showing 
bands of colour and there was no further progress.

I attempted to boot into rescue mode, but got the same result.

I suspect that the kernel 2.6.39-2 isn't compatible with the new AMD 
graphics card used by these iMacs.


The hardware:

Hardware Overview:

  Model Name:   iMac
  Model Identifier: iMac12,1
  Processor Name:   Intel Core i5
  Processor Speed:  2.5 GHz
  Number Of Processors: 1
  Total Number Of Cores:4
  L2 Cache (per core):  256 KB
  L3 Cache: 6 MB
  Memory:   4 GB
  Boot ROM Version: IM121.0047.B00
  SMC Version (system): 1.71f21
  Serial Number (system):   C02FN6N9DHJF
  Hardware UUID:0D156747-A0C6-5AC8-B540-494834088A82

Graphics:

AMD Radeon HD 6750M:

  Chipset Model:AMD Radeon HD 6750M
  Type: GPU
  Bus:  PCIe
  PCIe Lane Width:  x16
  VRAM (Total): 512 MB
  Vendor:   ATI (0x1002)
  Device ID:0x6741
  Revision ID:  0x
  ROM Revision: 113-C2950H-136
  EFI Driver Version:   01.00.512

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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-10 Thread Gergely Nagy
reassign 637284 installation-reports
thanks

Installation reports (failure or success) should not be reported against
the Work Needing and Prospective Packages virtual package, but against
installation-reports.

It can then be reassigned from there to the appropriate package, if
confirmed.

I have reassigned the report to installation-reports, so it gets
forwarded to the right place.

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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-10 Thread Mike Hore

On 10/08/11 6:55 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote:

reassign 637284 installation-reports
thanks

Installation reports (failure or success) should not be reported against
the Work Needing and Prospective Packages virtual package, but against
installation-reports.


Ah, thanks Gergely -- I'm still new to this  :-)

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It can then be reassigned from there to the appropriate package, if
confirmed.

I have reassigned the report to installation-reports, so it gets
forwarded to the right place.




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Bug#637284: Can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMac

2011-08-10 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
Hi,

Very recently Wheezy moved to kernel Linux 3.0, which is being used to install 
and for the installed system.
It would be useful feedback if you test with the current kernel. 
Can you test and report against such cd images [1] ?

1 - 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/

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