Bug#688873: nomacs in Debian
Seem like I totally forgot about this package! Any progress here? Any way I can help? A. On 2012-09-28 10:57:12, Antoine Beaupré wrote: > On 2012-09-28, Stefan Fiel wrote: >> Hi, >> >> yes, you were right i was dealing with the hardening-no-relro warning >> if you just check out the svn (0.4.0 or trunk), debuild -us -uc then i >> get no warning or error from lentian (also when building this dsc with >> pbuilder). Don't know if this is a good way of checking packages. > > It's a great way! > > I still believe the fixes I suggested need to be applied if they haven't > been yet. > >> currently i don't use svn-buildpackage, wasn't aware of its existence >> when starting to make the first package for ubuntu :) Since we are >> planing to move to git in the next weeks/month I have not tried it with >> this. > > That's great! In this case I encourage you to take a look at > git-buildpackage. :) > > A. > > PS: regarding native vs non-native package, what I often do is that I > maintain a different repository for the debian meta-data. For example, > even though I am a maintainer in the Drush project, I chose to split out > the debian directory in a separate git repository because: > > a) it allows non-drush people to maintain the package > b) it makes it possible to maintain different *branches* for the > package (say stable and dev) and merge packaging changes between them > *without* merging stable in the upstream source code > c) it makes it easier for Ubuntu or other non-Debian people to make > changes to the package > > See the drush package here: > > http://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/drush.git > > It also uses git-buildpackage. > > -- > Si Dieu existe, j'espère qu'Il a une excuse valable > - Daniel Pennac -- There has been only one Christian. They caught him and crucified him -- early. - Mark Twain pgpwYXweCLaUF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#688873: nomacs in Debian
On 2012-09-28, Stefan Fiel wrote: > Hi, > > yes, you were right i was dealing with the hardening-no-relro warning > if you just check out the svn (0.4.0 or trunk), debuild -us -uc then i > get no warning or error from lentian (also when building this dsc with > pbuilder). Don't know if this is a good way of checking packages. It's a great way! I still believe the fixes I suggested need to be applied if they haven't been yet. > currently i don't use svn-buildpackage, wasn't aware of its existence > when starting to make the first package for ubuntu :) Since we are > planing to move to git in the next weeks/month I have not tried it with > this. That's great! In this case I encourage you to take a look at git-buildpackage. :) A. PS: regarding native vs non-native package, what I often do is that I maintain a different repository for the debian meta-data. For example, even though I am a maintainer in the Drush project, I chose to split out the debian directory in a separate git repository because: a) it allows non-drush people to maintain the package b) it makes it possible to maintain different *branches* for the package (say stable and dev) and merge packaging changes between them *without* merging stable in the upstream source code c) it makes it easier for Ubuntu or other non-Debian people to make changes to the package See the drush package here: http://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/drush.git It also uses git-buildpackage. -- Si Dieu existe, j'espère qu'Il a une excuse valable - Daniel Pennac pgpz3TTjBnRGN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#688873: nomacs in Debian
Hi, yes, you were right i was dealing with the hardening-no-relro warning if you just check out the svn (0.4.0 or trunk), debuild -us -uc then i get no warning or error from lentian (also when building this dsc with pbuilder). Don't know if this is a good way of checking packages. currently i don't use svn-buildpackage, wasn't aware of its existence when starting to make the first package for ubuntu :) Since we are planing to move to git in the next weeks/month I have not tried it with this. On 28.09.2012 16:36, Antoine Beaupré wrote: On 2012-09-28, Stefan Fiel wrote: On 27.09.2012 18:38, Antoine Beaupré wrote: Let me know when you have some progress on the package and I'll test it again. I strongly encourage you to look into pbuilder and cowdancer for build environments - you can't really build Debian packages on Ubuntu unless you use those tools. I tried building the nomacs 0.4.0 package using debian testing and pbuilder. There was just one lintian warning which i was able to eliminate (adding dpkg-buildflags) . So the nomacs 0.4.0 branch of the svn should now create a correct package (at least for lintian). Haven't tried cowdancer till now, for laziness reasons i usually use virtual machines for building :) That's fine. I actually find virtual machines *harder*. :P Somehow I wasn't able to build the package from SVN, as I can't find the 0.4.1 tarball - do you have a special svn-buildpackage configuration that I am not aware of? As for the warning, it should be fairly simple to fix most of them. Pipe the warnings into "lintian-info" and you already get a much better explanation. Googling for those gives similar positive results. I assume you dealt with this one with dpkg-buildflags: W: nomacs: hardening-no-relro usr/bin/nomacs Now for the others: E: nomacs changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file oneiric This seems to have been fixed, as "oneiric" is not used in debian/changelog. W: nomacs source: native-package-with-dash-version This is because there is no "dash" in the version documented in the changelog. At this point, I encourage you to use a version number like "0.4.0-1" where 0.4.0 is the version of the "upstream" nomacs code (platform independant) and -1 is the version of the Debian package, which you can increment as you fix stuff in the package. Unless you want to make a full new release (e.g. 0.4.1, 0.4.2) for every fix on the Debian package, I think it would be wise to make this a non-native package for now. More information on this: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq#What_is_the_difference_between_a_native_Debian_package_and_a_non-native_package.3F W: nomacs source: unknown-field-in-dsc original-maintainer This is just about removing the XSBC-Original-Maintainer field in debian/control. P: nomacs: no-upstream-changelog This you can ignore, although you could start maintaining a changelog separate from debian/changelog, in accordance to the "non-native package" policy explained above. W: nomacs: latest-debian-changelog-entry-without-new-version Can't seem to reproduce this. P: nomacs: copyright-has-crs As lintian-info says: sed -i 's/\r//g' debian/copyright ... should fix this. Thanks and good luck! A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#688873: nomacs in Debian
On 2012-09-28, Stefan Fiel wrote: > On 27.09.2012 18:38, Antoine Beaupré wrote: >> Let me know when you have some progress on the package and I'll test it >> again. >> >> I strongly encourage you to look into pbuilder and cowdancer for build >> environments - you can't really build Debian packages on Ubuntu unless >> you use those tools. > > I tried building the nomacs 0.4.0 package using debian testing and > pbuilder. There was just one lintian warning which i was able to > eliminate (adding dpkg-buildflags) . So the nomacs 0.4.0 branch of the > svn should now create a correct package (at least for lintian). > > Haven't tried cowdancer till now, for laziness reasons i usually use > virtual machines for building :) That's fine. I actually find virtual machines *harder*. :P Somehow I wasn't able to build the package from SVN, as I can't find the 0.4.1 tarball - do you have a special svn-buildpackage configuration that I am not aware of? As for the warning, it should be fairly simple to fix most of them. Pipe the warnings into "lintian-info" and you already get a much better explanation. Googling for those gives similar positive results. I assume you dealt with this one with dpkg-buildflags: W: nomacs: hardening-no-relro usr/bin/nomacs Now for the others: E: nomacs changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file oneiric This seems to have been fixed, as "oneiric" is not used in debian/changelog. W: nomacs source: native-package-with-dash-version This is because there is no "dash" in the version documented in the changelog. At this point, I encourage you to use a version number like "0.4.0-1" where 0.4.0 is the version of the "upstream" nomacs code (platform independant) and -1 is the version of the Debian package, which you can increment as you fix stuff in the package. Unless you want to make a full new release (e.g. 0.4.1, 0.4.2) for every fix on the Debian package, I think it would be wise to make this a non-native package for now. More information on this: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq#What_is_the_difference_between_a_native_Debian_package_and_a_non-native_package.3F W: nomacs source: unknown-field-in-dsc original-maintainer This is just about removing the XSBC-Original-Maintainer field in debian/control. P: nomacs: no-upstream-changelog This you can ignore, although you could start maintaining a changelog separate from debian/changelog, in accordance to the "non-native package" policy explained above. W: nomacs: latest-debian-changelog-entry-without-new-version Can't seem to reproduce this. P: nomacs: copyright-has-crs As lintian-info says: sed -i 's/\r//g' debian/copyright ... should fix this. Thanks and good luck! A. -- Ou bien Dieu voudrait supprimer le mal, mais il ne le peut pas Ou bien Dieu pourrait supprimer le mal, mais il ne le veut pas. - Sébastien Faure pgpIsbOt60j4C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#688873: nomacs in Debian
On 27.09.2012 18:38, Antoine Beaupré wrote: > Let me know when you have some progress on the package and I'll test it > again. > > I strongly encourage you to look into pbuilder and cowdancer for build > environments - you can't really build Debian packages on Ubuntu unless > you use those tools. I tried building the nomacs 0.4.0 package using debian testing and pbuilder. There was just one lintian warning which i was able to eliminate (adding dpkg-buildflags) . So the nomacs 0.4.0 branch of the svn should now create a correct package (at least for lintian). Haven't tried cowdancer till now, for laziness reasons i usually use virtual machines for building :) grettings Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#688873: nomacs in Debian
On 2012-09-27, Stefan Fiel wrote: > On 26.09.2012 19:56, Antoine Beaupré wrote: >> Let me know if you need any help. I may take some time to adapt the >> package from the PPA and upload it straight into Debian. > Thank you very much for the tip with nginx, i will take a look at it how > they solve this issue and if it fullfills our needs. But I will also try > to find a packages which uses cmake, since i don't want to switch to > autoconf/automake. > > I will also take a look at our current package and the errors and > warnings of lintian, and also read the debian packaging manuals again :) >> I can either keep you as a maintainer, which will make you responsible >> for answering bug reports filed against the package and so on. To upload >> the package, you will need a sponsor (I would be happy to do that) >> unless you do not go through the "Debian Maintainer" process. >> >> The alternative is that I mark myself as the maintainer and upload the >> packages when you guys make a relase. I would prefer having you as a >> maintainer and help you with only the uploads, however, as I am not sure >> I will be using the software in the long run - I just discovered it. > Sure you will use it :) > I would be happy to maintain the package. Means (hopefully) less work > for you. Indeed! Let me know when you have some progress on the package and I'll test it again. I strongly encourage you to look into pbuilder and cowdancer for build environments - you can't really build Debian packages on Ubuntu unless you use those tools. See also: http://wiki.debian.org/cowbuilder#Using_with_git-buildpackage http://wiki.debian.org/PackagingWithGit a. -- There has been only one Christian. They caught him and crucified him -- early. - Mark Twain pgpRg0qxKYKgA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#688873: nomacs in Debian
On 26.09.2012 19:56, Antoine Beaupré wrote: > Let me know if you need any help. I may take some time to adapt the > package from the PPA and upload it straight into Debian. Thank you very much for the tip with nginx, i will take a look at it how they solve this issue and if it fullfills our needs. But I will also try to find a packages which uses cmake, since i don't want to switch to autoconf/automake. I will also take a look at our current package and the errors and warnings of lintian, and also read the debian packaging manuals again :) > I can either keep you as a maintainer, which will make you responsible > for answering bug reports filed against the package and so on. To upload > the package, you will need a sponsor (I would be happy to do that) > unless you do not go through the "Debian Maintainer" process. > > The alternative is that I mark myself as the maintainer and upload the > packages when you guys make a relase. I would prefer having you as a > maintainer and help you with only the uploads, however, as I am not sure > I will be using the software in the long run - I just discovered it. Sure you will use it :) I would be happy to maintain the package. Means (hopefully) less work for you. Greetings Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#688873: nomacs in Debian
On 2012-09-26, Stefan Fiel wrote: > Hi Antoine, > > Thank you very much for contacting us. We would be glad to have an > official Debian package. Your help with the packaging would be > appreciated since we do not have enough experience in making a correct > package :) Awesome! You already seem to have done a pretty good job out there! > Since there are upcoming features for the next releases (like making HDR > images (see our GSoC project)) which are requiring more libs, we are > currently thinking about splitting up the package to reduce the > dependencies for those who just want a simple image viewer. We don't > know if this is desirable for packages in Debian and we are also not > sure about the correct way of doing this. Would be great if you can give > us some advices. This is fine in Debian. Take for example the Nginx packages: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nginx you have nginx, nginx-light, nginx-extra, nginx-full, which are all compiled with different flags, and "conflict" with each other - so that they can provide the same binary and you need to choose the one you want. I am not sure how they do that in the source package, we would need to look at it. But basically, you, as upstream, just need to provide ./configure flags (or similar). Ideally, a single compile process could generate all binaries so that it makes everything shorter, but it can probably be done otherwise (again, probably how nginx works). i can look into this further if you're interested, but otherwise here's the git repository for the Nginx debian package: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/nginx.git;a=summary Let me know if you need any help. I may take some time to adapt the package from the PPA and upload it straight into Debian. I can either keep you as a maintainer, which will make you responsible for answering bug reports filed against the package and so on. To upload the package, you will need a sponsor (I would be happy to do that) unless you do not go through the "Debian Maintainer" process. :) The alternative is that I mark myself as the maintainer and upload the packages when you guys make a relase. I would prefer having you as a maintainer and help you with only the uploads, however, as I am not sure I will be using the software in the long run - I just discovered it. :) Good luck, A. -- Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan pgpESYbuspDMu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#688873: nomacs in Debian
Hi Antoine, Thank you very much for contacting us. We would be glad to have an official Debian package. Your help with the packaging would be appreciated since we do not have enough experience in making a correct package :) Since there are upcoming features for the next releases (like making HDR images (see our GSoC project)) which are requiring more libs, we are currently thinking about splitting up the package to reduce the dependencies for those who just want a simple image viewer. We don't know if this is desirable for packages in Debian and we are also not sure about the correct way of doing this. Would be great if you can give us some advices. Greetings, Stefan On 26.09.2012 17:20, Antoine Beaupré wrote: Hi! How would you feel about having an official Debian package for nomacs in the Debian and therefore, eventually Ubuntu archives? I have opened an RFP (Request For Package) for that purpose in the Debian BTS (Bug Tracking System), you can follow it here: http://bugs.debian.org/688873 There are minimal changes required for the package to work in Debian, according to lintian: E: nomacs changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file oneiric W: nomacs source: native-package-with-dash-version W: nomacs source: unknown-field-in-dsc original-maintainer W: nomacs: hardening-no-relro usr/bin/nomacs P: nomacs: no-upstream-changelog W: nomacs: latest-debian-changelog-entry-without-new-version P: nomacs: copyright-has-crs As a Debian Developper, I would be to help in getting that package into shape for inclusion in Debian. Unfortunately, it won't make it for the next release, but we can aim for the one after that. Either way, it will eventually trickle down into Ubuntu, which is also good. :) Let me know. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#688873: nomacs in Debian
Hi! How would you feel about having an official Debian package for nomacs in the Debian and therefore, eventually Ubuntu archives? I have opened an RFP (Request For Package) for that purpose in the Debian BTS (Bug Tracking System), you can follow it here: http://bugs.debian.org/688873 There are minimal changes required for the package to work in Debian, according to lintian: E: nomacs changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file oneiric W: nomacs source: native-package-with-dash-version W: nomacs source: unknown-field-in-dsc original-maintainer W: nomacs: hardening-no-relro usr/bin/nomacs P: nomacs: no-upstream-changelog W: nomacs: latest-debian-changelog-entry-without-new-version P: nomacs: copyright-has-crs As a Debian Developper, I would be to help in getting that package into shape for inclusion in Debian. Unfortunately, it won't make it for the next release, but we can aim for the one after that. Either way, it will eventually trickle down into Ubuntu, which is also good. :) Let me know. A. -- It is better to sit alone than in company with the bad; and it is better still to sit with the good than alone. It better to speak to a seeker of knowledge than to remain silent; but silence is better than idle words. - Imam Bukhari pgp0CuzxR9Ii0.pgp Description: PGP signature
