Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4
On Sat, 03 Dec 2016, Lee Garrett wrote: > On 03/12/16 14:19, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Fri, 02 Dec 2016, Michael Stone wrote: > >>> Meh, I have requested help for it a long time ago. The RFH bug is from > >>> 2011. > >> > >> Well, nobody looks at those :D > >> > >>> Will you maintain rng-tools4? > >> > >> Well, it's up to 5 at this point but yes unless someone else is itching to. > > > > Ok, let's coordinate things then, and get it moving. > > > > I don't have currently the drive to take care of a new rng-tools. Maybe > > if I ever get hardware that supports RDSEED, I will offer to co-maintain > > it. > > > > IMHO, waiting for anyone else to package rng-tools-5 is a fool's errand. > > It will have to be you, for now. > > > > Please drop me a note (and CC this bug report) as soon as rng-tools-5 > > hits NEW... > > > > I'll volunteer to package rng-tools5, I've been spinning the idea for a while > now. Good to see there's interest :). Give me a few days and I'll give you a > git repo to review. Henrique, can I reach you via IRC somehow in case I have > any questions? Plase send those to the debian-mentors ML (which I do read), but CC me (which ensures I notice it soonish). I can't really commit to being on IRC right now. -- Henrique Holschuh
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4
On 03/12/16 14:19, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Fri, 02 Dec 2016, Michael Stone wrote: >>> Meh, I have requested help for it a long time ago. The RFH bug is from >>> 2011. >> >> Well, nobody looks at those :D >> >>> Will you maintain rng-tools4? >> >> Well, it's up to 5 at this point but yes unless someone else is itching to. > > Ok, let's coordinate things then, and get it moving. > > I don't have currently the drive to take care of a new rng-tools. Maybe > if I ever get hardware that supports RDSEED, I will offer to co-maintain > it. > > IMHO, waiting for anyone else to package rng-tools-5 is a fool's errand. > It will have to be you, for now. > > Please drop me a note (and CC this bug report) as soon as rng-tools-5 > hits NEW... > I'll volunteer to package rng-tools5, I've been spinning the idea for a while now. Good to see there's interest :). Give me a few days and I'll give you a git repo to review. Henrique, can I reach you via IRC somehow in case I have any questions? Greetings, Lee
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4
On Fri, 02 Dec 2016, Michael Stone wrote: > >Meh, I have requested help for it a long time ago. The RFH bug is from > >2011. > > Well, nobody looks at those :D > > >Will you maintain rng-tools4? > > Well, it's up to 5 at this point but yes unless someone else is itching to. Ok, let's coordinate things then, and get it moving. I don't have currently the drive to take care of a new rng-tools. Maybe if I ever get hardware that supports RDSEED, I will offer to co-maintain it. IMHO, waiting for anyone else to package rng-tools-5 is a fool's errand. It will have to be you, for now. Please drop me a note (and CC this bug report) as soon as rng-tools-5 hits NEW... -- Henrique Holschuh
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 09:17:08PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Meh, I have requested help for it a long time ago. The RFH bug is from 2011. Well, nobody looks at those :D Will you maintain rng-tools4? Well, it's up to 5 at this point but yes unless someone else is itching to. Mike Stone
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4
On Fri, 02 Dec 2016, Michael Stone wrote: > This has been pending with no action for more than 4 years now. Is there a > strategy for moving forward? I see 3 realistic options: > > 1) upload the new upstream with a big warning in NEWS that things will break I consider this acceptable, but you yourself provided a better alternative... > 2) upload the new upstream with a new name (this is less than ideal, because > it will confuse people in perpetuity) Not really, you could just name it rng-tools4 and implement the transition you suggest in (3): > 3) transition the current package to something like rng-tools-debian-legacy > which replaces the current package with a transitional package and conflicts > with future versions of rng-tools based on upstream. put this in stretch and > upload upstream as rng-tools in stretch+1. This one looks like the better option to me. Someone uploads rng-tools4 (so there is new rng-tools in stretch). We rename the Debian rng-tools to rng-tools-debian-legacy, and add a conflicts with rng-tools4 and rng-tools (>= 4) we add the transitional rng-tools package (to keep it atomic, it can be created by the rng-tools-debian-legacy source package for stretch). For stretch+1, rng-tools-debian-legacy drops the transitional package, and rng-tools4 gets renamed to rng-tools. Or something to that effect. > If 1) is unacceptable then I'd like to see 3) happen in stretch so this > doesn't get dragged out for another release cycle. > > I've personally just been using the ubuntu package to get the functionality > that a lot of people are looking for, and it seems ridiculous for that to be > debian's solution for 8 years... Meh, I have requested help for it a long time ago. The RFH bug is from 2011. Will you maintain rng-tools4? -- Henrique Holschuh
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4
This has been pending with no action for more than 4 years now. Is there a strategy for moving forward? I see 3 realistic options: 1) upload the new upstream with a big warning in NEWS that things will break 2) upload the new upstream with a new name (this is less than ideal, because it will confuse people in perpetuity) 3) transition the current package to something like rng-tools-debian-legacy which replaces the current package with a transitional package and conflicts with future versions of rng-tools based on upstream. put this in stretch and upload upstream as rng-tools in stretch+1. If 1) is unacceptable then I'd like to see 3) happen in stretch so this doesn't get dragged out for another release cycle. I've personally just been using the ubuntu package to get the functionality that a lot of people are looking for, and it seems ridiculous for that to be debian's solution for 8 years... Mike Stone
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4... or 5?
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014, Solveig wrote: Looks like the version 5 has been released. Do you still intend to package the version 4, or should this bug be retitled to package the 5? Ubuntu has packaged the version 5, I set them in copy to know if they'd like to help with this package's maintenance in Debian. In the long run, we will want to switch Debian to the new in-kernel rngd, and enhance THAT one if it is missing any important feature. Debian could switch to rng-tools 5, but that will break user configs as our rng-tools is very different, and some functionality will be lost. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4... or 5?
Hi! Looks like the version 5 has been released. Do you still intend to package the version 4, or should this bug be retitled to package the 5? Ubuntu has packaged the version 5, I set them in copy to know if they'd like to help with this package's maintenance in Debian. Cheers, Solveig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4
Hi, What's the status of this bug? It seems that ubuntu has upgraded to the version 4 in saucy. Might be interesting to see what they did there? Is it still relevant to keep the fork that we have in debian? Cheers Laurent Bigonville -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Laurent Bigonville wrote: What's the status of this bug? Ongoing. I am talking to some Intel engineers right now. It seems that ubuntu has upgraded to the version 4 in saucy. Might be interesting to see what they did there? Yes, and I will do so. Is it still relevant to keep the fork that we have in debian? Yes, for the time being. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4
An alternative would be for someone else to package the new version as rng-tools4, or just submit a patch adding RDRAND support to the unofficial fork. I didn't accept the TPM patches because it would clash with the kernel and the rest of the userspace TPM stack, but RDRAND is different. I backported RDRAND support to the unofficial fork. Could you please review: http://mentors.debian.net/package/rng-tools https://github.com/cernekee/rng-tools/commits/master aka: git clone git://github.com/cernekee/rng-tools I created an upstream/2-unofficial-mt.15 release on the upstream branch, then merged it to master and added the debian/ changes on top. Tested with: Debian sid Ubuntu Precise and Quantal RDRAND (Ivy Bridge Core i5) No RNG case (VirtualBox) No AES-NI case (fall back to libgcrypt) gcc -m32 rngd -r /dev/urandom lintian -IE --pedantic Not tested with an actual non-RDRAND HW RNG. :( rngtest FIPS pass/fail results were indistinguishable from those of the upstream rng-tools 4. Also, the performance variations between AES-NI and libgcrypt mirrored the rng-tools 4 results. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4
Package: rng-tools Severity: wishlist Hi, would it be possible to update rng-tools to version 4? This version apparently fixes a lot of issues with the previous versions and brings support for RDRAND instruction. Regards, -- Yves-Alexis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: would it be possible to update rng-tools to version 4? This version apparently fixes a lot of issues with the previous versions and brings support for RDRAND instruction. That requires some work to avoid breaking compatibility with the unofficial fork packaged for Debian, which I currently don't have spare time to do. An alternative would be for someone else to package the new version as rng-tools4, or just submit a patch adding RDRAND support to the unofficial fork. I didn't accept the TPM patches because it would clash with the kernel and the rest of the userspace TPM stack, but RDRAND is different. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692450: rng-tools: please update to version 4
On mar., 2012-11-06 at 11:45 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Tue, 06 Nov 2012, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: would it be possible to update rng-tools to version 4? This version apparently fixes a lot of issues with the previous versions and brings support for RDRAND instruction. That requires some work to avoid breaking compatibility with the unofficial fork packaged for Debian, which I currently don't have spare time to do. Arg, I didn't know it was a fork. It indeed complexifies the problem. Regards, -- Yves-Alexis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
