Bug#696994: debian-reference: Proposed changes - round 3
Hi Osamu, Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org wrote: Hi, Thanks for detailed proof-reading. Great work! I have some question on your patch as below. Your thought is most appreciated. http://bugs.debian.org/696994 But you know most of them are stylistic changes. Changing them at this moment before the release will cause major breakage to translations. It has been more than several month under freeze for Debian. I have not been changing SVN at this moment. But maybe we can start doing it. (Released version is not exactly ones on public svn-repo). Strategy is to make all typo/plural/article related fixes first. These do not require translation updates. Then work on content fixes. That's perfectly fine for me. I did not expected my proposals to be merged in before the release of Wheezy! And as you may have seen, there are even more proposed changes to come. As I get further and further with my translation, I do proofreading slowly over the english text. This means, that proofreading the whole document will take months, or most probably more than a year. Be prepared to receive more and more proposals ;-) Implement them whenever you want. On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 11:41:13PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: this is round 3 of my proposals for the DR. Yes I see them at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696994 You may want to fix at least one point before the next upload: see line 189 of attached diff. FYI: I need to merge all these changes manually to the source files with resideing under the asciidoc directory as *.txt. Diff to that source is easier for me to integrate. Ok, sorry for this. I will make diffs for the txt files in the future. @@ -9352,16 +9352,18 @@ citerefentryrefentrytitleaptitude/refentrytitlemanvolnum8/ manvolnum/citerefentry for an interactive text interface to manage the installed packages and to search the available packages. msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchapteritemizedlistlistitempara +### HW: update-manager works basically under other desktop environments, too. msgid citerefentryrefentrytitleupdate-manager/refentrytitlemanvolnum8/ -manvolnum/citerefentry for keeping your system up-to-date if you're -running the default GNOME desktop. +manvolnum/citerefentry for keeping your system up-to-date; it is mainly +aimed for being used in the default GNOME desktop, but basically works under +other desktop environments as well. msgstr True. But question is how pedantic we should be. I want to keep it short. Now we have update-manager-gnome ... Just a proposal, do as you like. #. type: Content of: bookchaptertabletgrouptbodyrowentry -msgid graphical package manager (GNOME front-end for APT) +### HW: my proposal for update-manager also applies here: synaptic is also +### HW: working fine under Xfce for example. +msgid graphical package manager (graphical front-end for APT) msgstr I think we need some generic solution than making every text longer. [...] #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionorderedlistlistitempara msgid Type \literall/literal\ to enter the package display limit as \literal~i/literal\ and type \literalm/literal\ over -\literalTasks/literal\ as manual installed. +\literalTasks/literal\, to mark that packages as manual installed. msgstr YES. sounds better! But unsynmetric use of ,. Should I add ; before and for these to make it clearer? Now: Type \literall/literal\ to enter the package display limit as \literal~i/literal\ and type \literalm/literal\ over \literalTasks/literal\, to mark that packages as manual installed. How about use , and ;: V V Type \literall/literal\, to enter the package display limit as \literal~i/literal\; and type \literalm/literal\ over \literalTasks/literal\, to mark that packages as manual installed. Yes. Or even use then instead of and (in German it is a rule, to not use and after a comma or semicolon. Don't know how about this in English). cheers Holger -- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Created with Sylpheed 3.0.2 under D e b i a n G N U / L I N U X 6.0 ( S q u e e z e ) Registered LinuxUser #311290 - http://linuxcounter.net/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#696994: debian-reference: Proposed changes - round 3
Hi Osamu, this is round 3 of my proposals for the DR. You may want to fix at least one point before the next upload: see line 189 of attached diff. Cheers Holger -- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Created with Sylpheed 3.0.2 under D e b i a n G N U / L I N U X 6.0 ( S q u e e z e ) Registered LinuxUser #311290 - http://linuxcounter.net/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = --- debian-reference.pot 2013-04-06 22:24:42.259034246 +0200 +++ debian-reference_proposed-changes.pot 2013-04-06 23:24:13.787035964 +0200 @@ -4,13 +4,13 @@ # FIRST AUTHOR EMAIL@ADDRESS, YEAR. # #, fuzzy msgid msgstr Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n -POT-Creation-Date: 2013-04-06 22:23+0300\n +POT-Creation-Date: 2013-01-10 21:56+0900\n PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n Last-Translator: FULL NAME EMAIL@ADDRESS\n Language-Team: LANGUAGE l...@li.org\n Language: \n MIME-Version: 1.0\n Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n @@ -9352,16 +9352,18 @@ citerefentryrefentrytitleaptitude/refentrytitlemanvolnum8/ manvolnum/citerefentry for an interactive text interface to manage the installed packages and to search the available packages. msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchapteritemizedlistlistitempara +### HW: update-manager works basically under other desktop environments, too. msgid citerefentryrefentrytitleupdate-manager/refentrytitlemanvolnum8/ -manvolnum/citerefentry for keeping your system up-to-date if you're -running the default GNOME desktop. +manvolnum/citerefentry for keeping your system up-to-date; it is mainly +aimed for being used in the default GNOME desktop, but basically works under +other desktop environments as well. msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchaptertabletitle msgid List of Debian package management tools msgstr @@ -9407,13 +9409,15 @@ #. type: Content of: bookchaptertabletgrouptbodyrowentry msgid package management system for Debian msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchaptertabletgrouptbodyrowentry -msgid graphical package manager (GNOME front-end for APT) +### HW: my proposal for update-manager also applies here: synaptic is also +### HW: working fine under Xfce for example. +msgid graphical package manager (graphical front-end for APT) msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchaptertabletgrouptbodyrowentry msgid APT utility programs: citerefentryrefentrytitleapt-extracttemplates/ refentrytitlemanvolnum1/manvolnum/citerefentry, @@ -9485,13 +9489,13 @@ responsible for the risk containment. msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionitemizedlistlistitempara msgid Esoteric configuration may be manually enabled by the system administrator. -This may creates interference with popular generic helper programs for the +This may create interferences with popular generic helper programs for the system configuration. msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectiontitle msgid Basic precautions msgstr @@ -9587,13 +9591,13 @@ #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionitemizedlistlistitemitemizedlistlistitempara msgid You as the system administrator are responsible for your system in the end. msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionitemizedlistlistitemitemizedlistlistitempara -msgid The long stability history of Debian system is no guarantee by itself. +msgid The long stability history of the Debian system is no guarantee by itself. msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectiontitle msgid Life with eternal upgrades msgstr @@ -10072,13 +10076,13 @@ msgid codename = literalcodename-nexttesting;/literal msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionpara msgid The history of codenames are described in ulink url= -\debianfaqgdbwhiceenusedinthepast;\Debian FAQ: 6.3.1 Which other +\debianfaqgdbwhiceenusedinthepast;\Debian FAQ: 6.2.1 Which other codenames have been used in the past?/ulink msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionpara msgid In the stricter Debian archive terminology, the word \section\ is @@ -10086,15 +10090,15 @@ area. (Although, the word \main section\ may sometimes be used to describe the Debian archive area named as \main\.) msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionpara msgid -Every time a new upload is done by the Debian developer (DD) to the +Every time a new upload is done by a Debian developer (DD) to the literalunstable/literal archive (via ulink url=\incoming;\incoming/ -ulink processing), DD is required to ensure uploaded packages to be +ulink processing), the DD is required to ensure uploaded packages to be compatible with the latest set of packages in the latest literalunstable/ literal archive. msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionpara msgid @@ -10214,13 +10218,13 @@ #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionpara msgid Debian is 100% free software because of the followings: msgstr
Bug#696994: debian-reference: Proposed changes - round 3
Hi, Thanks for detailed proof-reading. Great work! I have some question on your patch as below. Your thought is most appreciated. http://bugs.debian.org/696994 But you know most of them are stylistic changes. Changing them at this moment before the release will cause major breakage to translations. It has been more than several month under freeze for Debian. I have not been changing SVN at this moment. But maybe we can start doing it. (Released version is not exactly ones on public svn-repo). Strategy is to make all typo/plural/article related fixes first. These do not require translation updates. Then work on content fixes. On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 11:41:13PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: this is round 3 of my proposals for the DR. Yes I see them at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696994 You may want to fix at least one point before the next upload: see line 189 of attached diff. FYI: I need to merge all these changes manually to the source files with resideing under the asciidoc directory as *.txt. Diff to that source is easier for me to integrate. @@ -9352,16 +9352,18 @@ citerefentryrefentrytitleaptitude/refentrytitlemanvolnum8/ manvolnum/citerefentry for an interactive text interface to manage the installed packages and to search the available packages. msgstr #. type: Content of: bookchapteritemizedlistlistitempara +### HW: update-manager works basically under other desktop environments, too. msgid citerefentryrefentrytitleupdate-manager/refentrytitlemanvolnum8/ -manvolnum/citerefentry for keeping your system up-to-date if you're -running the default GNOME desktop. +manvolnum/citerefentry for keeping your system up-to-date; it is mainly +aimed for being used in the default GNOME desktop, but basically works under +other desktop environments as well. msgstr True. But question is how pedantic we should be. I want to keep it short. Now we have update-manager-gnome ... #. type: Content of: bookchaptertabletgrouptbodyrowentry -msgid graphical package manager (GNOME front-end for APT) +### HW: my proposal for update-manager also applies here: synaptic is also +### HW: working fine under Xfce for example. +msgid graphical package manager (graphical front-end for APT) msgstr I think we need some generic solution than making every text longer. #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionitemizedlistlistitempara msgid Esoteric configuration may be manually enabled by the system administrator. -This may creates interference with popular generic helper programs for the +This may create interferences with popular generic helper programs for the system configuration. msgstr Yes. #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionitemizedlistlistitemitemizedlistlistitempara -msgid The long stability history of Debian system is no guarantee by itself. +msgid The long stability history of the Debian system is no guarantee by itself. msgstr Yes. This is something I need to fix globally. #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionpara msgid The history of codenames are described in ulink url= -\debianfaqgdbwhiceenusedinthepast;\Debian FAQ: 6.3.1 Which other +\debianfaqgdbwhiceenusedinthepast;\Debian FAQ: 6.2.1 Which other codenames have been used in the past?/ulink msgstr I see. Yes. #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionpara msgid -Every time a new upload is done by the Debian developer (DD) to the +Every time a new upload is done by a Debian developer (DD) to the literalunstable/literal archive (via ulink url=\incoming;\incoming/ -ulink processing), DD is required to ensure uploaded packages to be +ulink processing), the DD is required to ensure uploaded packages to be compatible with the latest set of packages in the latest literalunstable/ literal archive. msgstr Yes. #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionitemizedlistlistitempara -msgid Debian installs only free software by default to respect user freedoms. +msgid Debian installs only free software by default to respect user's freedom. msgstr Yes. #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionpara msgid -ulink url=\debianfreesoftwareguidelines;\Debian Free Software -Guidelines/ulink is the free software standards for ulink url=\debian; +The ulink url=\debianfreesoftwareguidelines;\Debian Free Software +Guidelines/ulink are the free software standards for ulink url=\debian; \Debian/ulink. Debian interprets \software\ in the widest scope including document, firmware, logo, and artwork data in the package. This makes Debian's free software standards very strict ones. msgstr Yes. #. type: Content of: bookchaptersectionsectionnotepara msgid -Please note that defining, \Provides\, \Conflicts\ and \Replaces\ +Please note that defining \Provides\, \Conflicts\ and \Replaces\ simultaneously to an virtual package is the sane
