Re: Drop testing

2004-10-28 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 02:47:49PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
 I have a simple question for you: have you actually talked to those
 currently managing our releases before drafting this GR?

For comparison, when drafting the proposal for package pools and testing,
the folks actually managing the release and the archive didn't really
get involved or contribute 'til after a proposal was drawn up, to the
best of my recollection. OTOH, they did get cc'ed on the discussion,
and their advice was actively sought out.

The benefit of conducting Debian as openly as possible is that you don't
have to get particular people's advice to come up with good solutions --
you can just troll through the archives for all the data you need.

Cheers,
aj

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Debian installer and non-official drivers

2004-10-28 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
Hiho!

Just one question. Lets say I'd put some extra driver modules for hardware
not officially supported by the debian installer on a floppy disk (in form of 
an  a .udeb) and let the installer load this file during the installation in 
order to detect the additional hardware.

Would this udeb get installed into my target system later on? If this 
additional driver is needed for i.e. disk access, it should be placed in
the initrd when the target kernel gets installed.

Any comments?

Greetings,
Cajus




Re: Drop testing

2004-10-28 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 01:05:51PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
 Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
  * One of Testing's goals was to be 95% releasable at all times.
  * It hasn't been.
  * Why not?
 (a) RC bugs
 (b) Can't install it
 (c) Security vulnerabilities
 This is the crux of the problem, I think, but I'm a little confused.
 How does (a) contribute to this?  The assumption behind an RC bug is
 we can't release with this bug unfixed.  But the problem is that, of
 course, we *do*, and we *have*, because many RC bugs are in things we
 have already released. 

To paraphrase: The problem is that, of course, this is not a problem.

Releasing with a hundred known security problems in the kernel is
worse than releasing with a dozen unknown security problems in Priority:
extra packages. We can, and indeed have to, accept the possibility of the
latter; we shouldn't accept the former. The existance of various RC bugs
in woody, now or when it was released, and the number of RC bugs still
present in testing sit somewhere on that scale between those two extremes.
Where we chose to make a cut off point and release is likewise somewhere
between those two points.

(a) is about failing to make sure we're on the correct side of that cut
off point.

 So the RC bugs should not be blocking release unless they are *new* RC
 bugs which don't already exist.  

That's not really the case. Though, even if it were, sarge would still
fail to be releasable.

 As for (b), the solution, if there is one, is to have the installer
 folks spend time targeting testing all the time.  

In my experience, claims of the form The only possible solution to this
problem is foo are almost invariably wrong, or at least need to be
heavily qualified.

The drawback is that targeting testing for development work is usually
a losing proposition -- there's a deliberate delay in putting stuff
into testing, and any delay is a nuisance when you're waiting on a fix
before you can do more development. Even targeting unstable has proven
cumbersome for the d-i folks.

 As for (c), the solution in my opinion is to allow security fixes to
 migrate into testing without having to wait for the normal delay.

That already happens, just set urgency=critical in the changelog. If
you forget, reupload, or contact a release manager.

It's not enough, because security bugs aren't always fixed in a timely
manner in unstable; see [0] eg. It's also not enough, because uploads
to unstable can easily be unsuitable for testing, even through no fault
of the package's maintainer.

Is it coincidence that all your proposed resolutions involve
situations where you couldn't be expected to contribute? (RC bugs don't
matter! Installer team needs to refocus! Security stuff is already
handled, just needs code changes!)

Cheers,
aj

[0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2004/08/msg00174.html

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Re: software updates file in /usr -- policy bug?

2004-10-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 07:44:19PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
 Even if the file is updated only by the postinst, it is useful to know
 that you can recover a broken system from scratch by having:
 
 * A backup copy of /etc, /var, /home, /usr/local, etc. (but not /usr).
 * The list of installed packages.
... which can, anyway, got back from files in /var

Mike




Re: Location of Type 1 fonts

2004-10-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2004-10-25 at 16:16 -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
 I'm confused as to where to place Type 1 fonts.  Should they go into
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 or /usr/share/fonts/type1?  Why do some TeX
 packages have their fonts under /usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1?


Isn't /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 just a bunch of symlinks 
into 
/usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts
/usr/share/fonts/type1/t1-xfree86-nonfree

And doesn't Tex manage it's own fonts?

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Debian installer and non-official drivers

2004-10-28 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
Hiho!

Just one question. Lets say I'd put some extra driver modules for hardware
not officially supported by the debian installer on a floppy disk (in form of 
an  a .udeb) and let the installer load this file during the installation in 
order to detect the additional hardware.

Would this udeb get installed into my target system later on? If this 
additional driver is needed for i.e. disk access, it should be placed in
the initrd when the target kernel gets installed.

Any comments?

Greetings,
Cajus




Re: A localisation success: French po-debconf translations briefly reached a full virtual 100%

2004-10-28 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
[please remember Debian list policy: no cc:s unless requested]

On Wednesday 27 October 2004 17.54, Christian Perrier wrote:
  But does anything warn me (linda/lintian?) when I update debconf
  templates and/or package descriptions and forget to post to
  debian-i18n? (which would be: it should always warn, unless you build
  the AI to detect when I have posted to the mailing list :-)

 But how will this magic too detect that you indeed modified something
 in your templates?

I thought about simple checks: file modification date of the english 
template newer than of the translations? Wouldn't be reliable, but could 
often work.

Another possibility would be the translation project somewhere store 
versions of the relevant files and do diffs at package upload.

It would be a bit of work, but it's not a task needing serious AI :-)
I just wondered if something like this is already in place.

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Re: Bug#278027: RFP: ibm-acpi -- Driver for IBM laptops to extend ACPI support

2004-10-28 Thread Jerome Warnier
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 09:22 +0200, David Schweikert wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 13:07:34 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
   * Package name: ibm-acpi
  
  This has been integrated into the acpi.sf.net patch, so is fairly likely
  to end up in the mainstream kernel before too long.
 
 Even if it gets integrated in the kernel (which I am not 100% sure about),
 having a package would make it work on older kernels. Also, an init script
 is needed to configure what events you are interested in and the package
 can provide example configuration files in /etc/acpi.
Shouldn't it be integrated to package acpid then?

 Cheers
 David
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Re: software updates file in /usr -- policy bug?

2004-10-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.26.2057 +0200]:
 You should probably tell us non-chatters what The software is... 

I believe the original post had the reference: apt-spy, pciutils,
usbutils, possibly others. Note that usbutils and apt-spy are
already fixed.

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Re: Debian installer and non-official drivers

2004-10-28 Thread Joey Hess
Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
 Just one question. Lets say I'd put some extra driver modules for hardware
 not officially supported by the debian installer on a floppy disk (in form of 
 an  a .udeb) and let the installer load this file during the installation in 
 order to detect the additional hardware.
 
 Would this udeb get installed into my target system later on? If this 
 additional driver is needed for i.e. disk access, it should be placed in
 the initrd when the target kernel gets installed.

It would not. You can however include a udeb on your floppy that
installs a prebaseconfig hook script which would run after the base
system is installed, or a base-installer hook script which would run
just before base is installed (or perhaps both), and at that point do
one of these things, in approximate order of difficulty and inverse
order of cleanliness and desirability:

  a. copy the module into /target from the d-i system
  b. install a .deb of the module into /target from the floppy
  c. add something to sources.list for the apt repository you should have
 that contains the .deb, and then use apt-install to get it installed

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Re: Several X applications refuse to start

2004-10-28 Thread Simon Huggins
'ello Debian

On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 08:40:30PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
 asking Google for this problem just leaded to hints of some broken X
 resources but I have no real clue what might have caused the failure
 of at least three important applications which I'm running on a laptop
 with an up to date testing.  I never faced similar problems with three
 other machines running more or less the same stuff.

 $ emacs
 X protocol error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 
 on protocol request 45
 Fatal error (6).
[..]
 The problem is that this Laptop is the machine I installed most recently
 and I want to share this obervations with other developers just to prevent
 that something goes really wrong in Sarge ...

 So the question is, which information do I have to provide to track down
 this problem.

Is this a Transmeta Crusoe based laptop?
Have you seen bug 216933?

I get this bug periodically.  Apparently running the debugging server or
recompiling to turn off optimisation in the X server may help.

Though I guess your symptoms are a little different.

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Re: RFS: kmenc15 - An advanced Qt/KDE MEncoder frontend.

2004-10-28 Thread Oded Shimon
On Thursday 28 October 2004 01:57, Shaun Jackman wrote:
  A package in main must not depend on any software outside of main, and
  must be DFSG-free; A package in contrib must be DFSG-free; A package in
  non-free must be legally distributable by Debian.
 
  There are no further restrictions than the above.

 Perhaps that's true -- I must do a little reading. However, if you
 upload a package to contrib that build-depends on a package not in
 contrib or non-free, you'll get a FTBFS RC bug filed against you
 before you blink. To me, a package in contrib with an unfixable RC bug
 should not be in the archive.

My package build depends are all in main. As far as I can tell, yes, my 
program belongs and has no problem being in contrib. Which brings me still 
back to my original question which no one has yet to answer. What can I do to 
find a sponsor?... I have almost given up hope...

- ods15




Re: Why sysklog uses its own logrotate and not logrotate script

2004-10-28 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Clemens Schwaighofer [Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:02:44 +0900]:
 Hi,

 I would like to know why sysklog package uses its own logrotation
 scripts and not logrotate.

  albeit both are Priority: important, sysklogd is Section: base. and,
  iiuc, base should be self-contained (that is, packages in base must
  not depend on packages outside it).

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Re: Subversion / swig1.3

2004-10-28 Thread Adeodato Simó
* John Lenz [Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:02:43 +]:
 On 10/26/04 16:35:35, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 01:39:15PM +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
  subversion depends on swig = 1.3.22-2 which is in unstable. but it's
 not
  in testing yet because swig cannot be put into testing because it would
  break subversion 1.0.6-2 ;-)
  did I miss something or is this just a bug in the testing script and
 needs
  manual hinting?

 Yes, it needs manual hinting and we're aware of this. But it needs to
 wait for libhid anyway (two days), so there is no hurry to install the
 necessary hint.

 I am a swig developer lurking on this list.  Building the SWIG runtime  
 library (which is what causes subversion to depend on SWIG) has been  
 depreciated since 1.3.20, which was released almost a year ago.  About a  
 week ago, I removed the ability to build the runtime libraries in SWIG CVS, 
 and so in the next version (1.3.23) you will not be able to build them at  
 all.  We are planning for a release in a week or two.

  I am forwarding this information to the subversion maintainer(s), just
  to make sure it doesn't get lost.

 I am not sure how this will impact debian, but I would seriously encourage  
 you to build the python swig wrappers and every other package that depends  
 on libswigruntime so they don't require the runtime library, and then  
 remove that library.  The runtime library leads to several bugs and  
 problems, and if those get reported after sarge is released... I am  
 actually surprised to learn people are still using runtime libraries.  You  
 can completly remove libswig*.so and not lose any functionality, and avoid  
 a whole bunch of potential bugs.

 John



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Re: Bug#278075: ITP: libical0 -- An implementation of basic iCal

2004-10-28 Thread Grkan Sengn
Brent has already a packaged libical here:
http://people.debian.org/~bfulgham/gnustep/

yours,
Gürkan




Re: RFS: kmenc15 - An advanced Qt/KDE MEncoder frontend.

2004-10-28 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Erik Schanze [Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:31:35 +0200]:

 If your program depends on MPlayer, it must go into non-free.
 If your program depends on a program in non-free, it must go into contrib.
 But MPlayer isn't even in non-free.

  not exactly. packages in contrib can depend on packages not available
  in Debian. see §2.2.2 of the Policy.

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Bug#278620: ITP: tecnoballz -- A breaking blocks game ported from Amiga

2004-10-28 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist


* Package name: tecnoballz
  Version : 0.90.6
  Upstream Author : TLK Games http://linux.tlk.fr
* URL : http://linux.tlk.fr/games/TecnoballZ/
* License : GPL
  Description : A breaking blocks game ported from Amiga

This is a Breakout or Arkanoid like game with a lot of bonus
stage. You can buy weapons and bonus between stages.
Sometimes you have to defeat a guardian.
This game is written in C++ and use the SDL library.

The debian package respects the Debian Policy Manual (it's lintian
valid).

Debian packge can be grabbed from my repo :

  deb http://www.sukria.net/debian ./
  apt-get install tecnoballz

It has been tested under unstable and testing with success on several
i386 boxes.

I really want to maintain this package and am a friend of the upstream
author. 

There should not be too much uploads as the game is really
stable and finished.
 
If someone is interested in sponsoring me, feel free to contact me.

Alexis.

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Re: Drop testing

2004-10-28 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Thomas Bushnell writes:

 So the RC bugs should not be blocking release unless they are *new* RC
 bugs which don't already exist.

I'd word that a bit differently: the definition of an RC bug should
*never* allow a bug still present in stable now (+ security.stable) to
reach the level of RC.

Jan.

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Re: Comparing FHS 2.3 and 2.1

2004-10-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 19:53 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 paddy wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 11:28:14AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
   On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:02:02PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 5)==

User specific configuration files for applications are stored in the 
user's
home directory in a file that starts with the '.' character (a dot 
file). If
an application needs to create more than one dot file then they should 
be
placed in a subdirectory with a name starting with a '.' character, (a 
dot
directory). In this case the configuration files should not start with 
the '.'
character. 

I have no idea if we comply, but this is a new requirement.
   
   I think we do. This is common sense anyway, most applications I've seen
   do it that way.
  
  what about ~/Desktop and friends?
 
 I don't know if Desktop falls under the heading of being a configuration
 file or directorty. Not that I much like that directory, but like
 Maildir, it seems out of the scope of this FHS requirement.

Is ~/Desktop a User specific configuration files for applications?

Doesn't seem like it to me.  It and ~/Maildir are data directories.


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Re: Comparing FHS 2.3 and 2.1

2004-10-28 Thread Nikolai Prokoschenko
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:02:02PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 User specific configuration files for applications are stored in the user's
 home directory in a file that starts with the '.' character (a dot file). If

Speaking of which: there used to be some proposed addition to FHS about
re-locating all dot-files into ~/etc or some directory like that. Does
anybody know what happened to that? I'm aware of the problems (sharing
$HOME over several different machines etc.), but but I'll be glad if the
mess were out of $HOME.

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Re: Debian installer and non-official drivers

2004-10-28 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
Am Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2004 10:38 schrieb Joey Hess:
 Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
  Just one question. Lets say I'd put some extra driver modules for
  hardware not officially supported by the debian installer on a floppy
  disk (in form of an  a .udeb) and let the installer load this file during
  the installation in order to detect the additional hardware.
 
  Would this udeb get installed into my target system later on? If this
  additional driver is needed for i.e. disk access, it should be placed in
  the initrd when the target kernel gets installed.

 It would not. You can however include a udeb on your floppy that
 installs a prebaseconfig hook script which would run after the base
 system is installed, or a base-installer hook script which would run
 just before base is installed (or perhaps both), and at that point do
 one of these things, in approximate order of difficulty and inverse
 order of cleanliness and desirability:

   a. copy the module into /target from the d-i system
   b. install a .deb of the module into /target from the floppy
   c. add something to sources.list for the apt repository you should have
  that contains the .deb, and then use apt-install to get it installed

Ok. Will try (b) to use the apoximated intersection between cleanliness
and difficulty ;-)

Cheers,
Cajus

PS: Sorry for mailing multiple times, but it took about three hours to see
the mail coming up in the list.




Re: Bug#278027: RFP: ibm-acpi -- Driver for IBM laptops to extend ACPI support

2004-10-28 Thread David Schweikert
On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 09:44:18 +0200, Jerome Warnier wrote:
  Even if it gets integrated in the kernel (which I am not 100% sure about),
  having a package would make it work on older kernels. Also, an init script
  is needed to configure what events you are interested in and the package
  can provide example configuration files in /etc/acpi.
 Shouldn't it be integrated to package acpid then?

Yes, if the patch gets integrated, that would be the best solution.
I am not saying that the package can't be obsoleted in the future. It can
be however of use right now. I don't know, but maybe it could even make
it to sarge...

Cheers
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Bug#278246: 278246 -- does not reproduce for me.

2004-10-28 Thread Joost Witteveen
In both KDE (e.g. Konqueror, Kmail) and GNOME (e.g. gedit) applications
Cyrillic letters are displayed as double-width.
Ah, that was a long time ago that I had that problem. (But for me
mozilla used to have the problem too, not any more though)
I just tried again with gedit, and I cannot reproduce it.
When I run
LANG=bg_BG.UTF-8 gedit
I see a lovely gedit with Bulgarian (cyrillic) menu's.
When I run normally (With LANG=en_IN.UTF-8), but start typing
Bulgarian (cyrillic) text, the letters appear normally in the
edit-window.
Maybe you want to specify what versions of (possibly) affected
packages you are running?
I'm running:
$ dpkg -l gedit xserv\* xlibs konqueror|grep ^i
ii  gedit  2.6.2-1light-weight text editor
ii  xserver-common 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 files and utilities common to all X servers
ii  xserver-xfree8 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 the XFree86 X server
ii  xlibs  4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System client libraries metapackage
ii  konqueror  3.2.2-1KDE's advanced File Manager, Web Browser and
Also, when I use konqueror to vizit for http://www.news.bg, the
is displayed OK.
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Bug#278627: ITP: childsplay-base -- base package for childsplay, a suite of educational games for children.

2004-10-28 Thread Stas Zytkiewicz
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist


* Package name: childsplay-base
  Version : 0.80
  Upstream Author : Stas Zytkieiwcz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://childsplay.sf.net
* License : GPL
  Description : base package for childsplay, a suite of educational games 
for children.

Childsplay is a 'suite' of educational games for young children. It's 
written in Python and uses the SDL-libraries to make it more games-like 
then, for instance, gcompris. The aim is to be educational and at the 
same time be fun to play.


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Bug#278630: ITP: childsplay-games -- collection of games for childsplay-base.

2004-10-28 Thread Stas Zytkiewicz
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist


* Package name: childsplay-games
  Version : 0.80
  Upstream Author : Stas Zytkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://childsplay.sf.net
* License : GPL
  Description : collection of games for childsplay-base.

This package provides additional games for childsplay-base.
It currently contains the next games:
Numbers - Put the correct operator between two numbers.
SoundNpic - A toy for young children with pictures and sounds.  
Packid - A pac-man game, try to catch the letters.
Soundmemory - The classic memory game, with sounds.
Fallingletters - Type them before the reach the ground.
Findsound - Listen to a sound and find the image to which it belongs.
Findsound2 - The same as findsound, now with numbers and letters.
Pong - The classic game, play alone,against the computer or against another 
child.
Billiards - Try to get the balls in the hole.

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Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.7
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Re: RFS: kmenc15 - An advanced Qt/KDE MEncoder frontend.

2004-10-28 Thread Ben Burton

 However, if you
 upload a package to contrib that build-depends on a package not in
 contrib or non-free, you'll get a FTBFS RC bug filed against you
 before you blink.

Hmm, I didn't, back in the days when regina-normal built against java2
(which wasn't in the archive at the time).  Though thankfully those days
are gone.

b.




Re: Several X applications refuse to start

2004-10-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Simon Huggins wrote:
Is this a Transmeta Crusoe based laptop?
No.  It is centrono based and I guess this is rather a problem of some pure
X applications, because Gnome and KDE applications and also Mozilla are
behaving fine.  The only thing is that sometimes fonts are not rendered
nicely (for instance the fonts in the menu of xmms look ugly and do
not seem to use TrueType fonts.
Have you seen bug 216933?
I get this bug periodically.  Apparently running the debugging server or
recompiling to turn off optimisation in the X server may help.
Though I guess your symptoms are a little different.
Definitely.
Kind regards
Andreas.



Bug#278633: ITP: childsplay-games -- games for childsplay, a collection of games for young children.

2004-10-28 Thread Stas Zytkiewicz
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist


* Package name: childsplay-games
  Version : 0.80
  Upstream Author : Stas Zytkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://childsplay.sf.net
* License : GPL
  Description : Additional games for childsplay, a collection of games for 
young children.

It consists of the following games:
Numbers - Put the correct operator between two numbers.
SoundNpic - A toy for young children with pictures and sounds.  
Packid - A pac-man game, try to catch the letters.
Soundmemory - The classic memory game, with sounds.
Fallingletter - Type them before the reach the ground.
Findsound - Listen to a sound and find the image to which it belongs
Findsound2 - The same as findsound, now with numbers and letters.
Pong - The classic game, play alone,against the computer or against 
another child.
Billiards - Try to shoot the balls into the hole.



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Bug#278631: ITP: childsplay-base -- base package for childsplay, a collection of educational games for children.

2004-10-28 Thread Stas Zytkiewicz
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist


* Package name: childsplay-base
  Version : 0.80
  Upstream Author : Stas Zytkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://childsplay.sf.net
* License : GPL
  Description : base package for childsplay, a collection of educational 
games for children.

Childsplay is a 'suite' of educational games for young children. It's 
written in Python and uses the SDL-libraries to make it more games-like 
then, for instance, gcompris. The aim is to be educational and at the 
same time be fun to play.


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Bug#278634: ITP: libdigest-crc-perl -- Generic CRC functions for Perl

2004-10-28 Thread Allard Hoeve
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: libdigest-crc-perl
  Version : 0.09
  Upstream Author : Oliver Maul
* URL : 
http://search.cpan.org/~olimaul/Digest-CRC-0.09/lib/Digest/CRC.pm
* License : public domain
  Description : Generic CRC functions for Perl

The Digest::CRC module calculates CRC sums of all sorts. It contains 
wrapper functions with the correct parameters for CRC-CCITT, CRC-16
and CRC-32. The module acts similar to libstring-crc32-perl, but implements
the Digest interface.

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Re: Comparing FHS 2.3 and 2.1

2004-10-28 Thread Stig Brautaset
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 User specific configuration files [...] 
 If an application needs to create more than one dot file then they
 should be placed in a subdirectory with a name starting with a '.'
...
   I have no idea if we comply, but this is a new requirement.

Slrn, at least, litters $HOME with .jnewsrc-* files. 

Then there is the various shells, of course...

Stig




Re: Release-critical Bugreport for October 22, 2004

2004-10-28 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 05:41:42PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
 
 Could the script that generates the RC bug list be modified to show two 
 additional numbers for each bug: first, how old it is (in days), and 
 second, how old (in days) is the last message posted to the bug?
 
 This will allow to see easilly (i.e. without looking inside all reports), 
 which bugs are not being worked on, and which bugs seem to have trouble.

Maybe what bug hunters (and developers) really need is some tips on how
to use the LDAP BTS to retrieve this information. Are there any scripts
(probably using bts2ldap [1]) out there? (I can't find any useful 
scripts for RC analysis in devscripts...)

Regards

Javier



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NMU on sysklogd

2004-10-28 Thread Jerome Warnier
Hello guys,

I'm having a problem with sysklogd on Sarge: everytime it rotates logs,
it fails to log in the new file, it continues in the previous, renamed
one.

I introduced bug #275111 about that.
It is really annoying since every log analysis tool is failing on this
every week at least? By log analysis tool I mean anything relying on
files in /var/log to do something.

I notice that that package has a huge number of bugs, with many having a
patch attached, but many bugs are really old.

Could someone go through the list and NMU this? I'm willing to help, if
necessary.

Thanks
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Re: Comparing FHS 2.3 and 2.1

2004-10-28 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Thursday 28 October 2004 01.53, Joey Hess wrote:
 paddy wrote:

  what about ~/Desktop and friends?

 I don't know if Desktop falls under the heading of being a configuration
 file or directorty. Not that I much like that directory, but like
 Maildir, it seems out of the scope of this FHS requirement.

Ok, this is obviously off-topic here, but I think it's well within the FHS's 
competence to get rid of these...

+---
| Applications MUST NOT require or create any files and directories in the
| users' home directories except
|  (i) data files explicitely requested by the user
|  (ii) temporary backup and lock files which belong to a file as described
| in (i) and are in the same directory as the data file, and start with 
| a dot.
|  (iii) configuration files, a.k.a dotfiles.
+--

Or something like that. I really think my $HOME is my castle, and nobody 
should mess with that. dotfiles I can accept, but ~/Mail and ~/Desktop are 
annoying (and, in the case of ~/Mail, totally useless if I use a remote 
IMAP mail server but my mailclient still insists on it :-( :-( :-(

greetings
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Re: apt-proxy v2 and rsync

2004-10-28 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 09.20, Ian Bruce wrote:
 Can anyone explain why rsync is no longer considered an appropriate
 method for fetching Packages files?

IIRC the problem is that rsync is quite CPU-heavy on the servers, so while 
the mirrors have the (network) resources to feed downloads to 100s of 
users, they don't have the (CPU) resources for a few dozen rsyncs.

regards
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Versioned bugs in the BTS (was: Drop testing)

2004-10-28 Thread Frank Küster
Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Besides, we'll have a bug database which tracks version numbers. This in
 turn means that we have a nice distinction between bugs that are actually
 RC in the fix this if we'd want to release Etch tomorrow sense, and bugs
 that are RC in the keep this out of testing sense.

This sounds great, and I heard that it has been promised for after the
sarge release, sounding as if it was implemented yet. Is the counterpart
also implemented, namely testing scripts that take this information into
account? 

Regards, Frank
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Re: Drop testing

2004-10-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jan Nieuwenhuizen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041028 14:05]:
 Thomas Bushnell writes:

  So the RC bugs should not be blocking release unless they are *new* RC
  bugs which don't already exist.
 
 I'd word that a bit differently: the definition of an RC bug should
 *never* allow a bug still present in stable now (+ security.stable) to
 reach the level of RC.

We _have_ RC-bugs in woody - even RC-bugs we won't fix.


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Re: Location of Type 1 fonts

2004-10-28 Thread Thaddeus H. Black
Jaldhar H. Vyas asks,

 I'm confused as to where to place Type 1 fonts.  Should they go into
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 or /usr/share/fonts/type1?  Why do some
 TeX packages have their fonts under /usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1?

I do not pretend to have the full answer to the question, but I see no
full answer yet on the list, and this may interest you.  The listed
Debian packages appear to deal in Type 1 fonts yet seem to have nothing
particularly to do with X.  Source: debram, ramification [1718 Fonts],
standing separately from [1823 X Fonts] for precisely the kind of issue
your question raises.  Further info
at [http://debtags.alioth.debian.org].


1718 FONTS (39)


CM Connelly   opt   mminstance
Multiple-master font utilities for creating AFM or PFB files

CM Connelly   opt   t1utils
A collection of simple Type 1 font manipulation programs

AR Czechowski opt   libt1-5
Type 1 font rasterizer library - runtime

AR Czechowski opt   libt1-dev
Type 1 font rasterizer library - development

AR Czechowski opt   libt1-doc
Type 1 font rasterizer library - developers documentation

AR Czechowski opt   t1lib-bin
Type 1 font rasterizer library - user binaries

AR Czechowski opt   t1lib-dev
Type 1 font rasterizer library - development

AR Czechowski opt   t1lib1
Type 1 font rasterizer library - runtime

A. Fokopt   ttf2pt1
A TrueType to PostScript Type 1 Font Converter

A. Lees   opt   defoma
Debian Font Manager -- automatic font configuration framework

A. Lees   opt   defoma-doc
Debian Font Manager documentation

A. Lees   opt   psfontmgr
PostScript font manager -- part of Defoma, Debian Font Manager

J. Mouetteopt   fontconfig
generic font configuration library

J. Mouetteopt   libfontconfig1
generic font configuration library (shared library)

J. Mouetteext   libfontconfig1-dbg
generic font configuration library (debugging symbols)

J. Mouetteopt   libfontconfig1-dev
generic font configuration library (development headers)

C. Silpa-Anan opt   fontforge
Font Editor for PS, TrueType and OpenType fonts

C. Silpa-Anan opt   fontforge-doc
Font Editor for PS, TrueType and OpenType fonts

C. Silpa-Anan opt   pfaedit
A migration package for FontForge

C. Silpa-Anan opt   type1inst
Install Adobe Type 1 fonts into X11 and Ghostscript



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Re: apt-proxy v2 and rsync

2004-10-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 26, Ian Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can anyone explain why rsync is no longer considered an appropriate
 method for fetching Packages files? It's the only mechanism I'm aware of
Because it's hard on servers, for a start.

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Re: Location of Type 1 fonts

2004-10-28 Thread Frank Küster
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 I'm confused as to where to place Type 1 fonts.  Should they go into
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 or /usr/share/fonts/type1?  Why do some TeX
 packages have their fonts under /usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1?

If the fonts are meant to be used by TeX applications, they must reside
within the TEXMFMAIN tree, that is /usr/share/texmf/. This only makes
sense, however, if the TeX Font Metric files (*.tfm) are also
available. Though not strictly necessary to function AFAIK, the font
filenames in TEXMFMAIN should follow the Berry scheme.

The lmodern package is an example for making fonts available both to TeX
applications and to defoma/X11.

Regards, Frank
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Re: software updates file in /usr -- policy bug?

2004-10-28 Thread Frank Küster
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 also sprach Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.26.2057 +0200]:
 You should probably tell us non-chatters what The software is... 

 I believe the original post had the reference: apt-spy, pciutils,
 usbutils, possibly others. 

The original post reached my inbox just a couple of minutes ago,
together with some answers. I hope it's not an ext3 problem again... 

Regards, Frank
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Package name eMail or not?

2004-10-28 Thread Millis Miller

There was some discussion [1] about an ITP I filed last year for a package 
called email [2], which suffered from an inappropriate license and name 
problems.


The upstream has since released a newer version under the GPL and has 
indicated to me a willingness to have the package called eMail.

My question is if this change of capitalization acceptable to Debian, or 
would it still insist on a different package name? It has been recently 
accepted into Cygwin with the email name [3] and upstream is, for that 
reason, not too keen to radically alter it. If eMail is not reasonable name, 
can anyone suggest one that is?

Thanks,
Millis


[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/06/msg01651.html
[2] http://email.cleancode.org/
[3] http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-10/msg00385.html


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Bug#278648: ITP: kkbswitch -- keyboard layout indicator for KDE3

2004-10-28 Thread Shlomi Loubaton
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist


* Package name: kkbswitch
  Version : 1.4.1
  Upstream Author : Leonid Zeitlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://kkbswitch.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL
  Description : keyboard layout indicator for KDE3

KKBSwitch is useful when you have configured the XKeyboard extension of 
your X Server to have more than one keyboard group (layout).
KKBSwitch displays an icon in the system tray that indicates which 
layout is currently active and enables you to switch layouts by
clicking the icon or by selecting from the menu.

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Re: Preparation of the next stable Debian GNU/Linux update [Oct 24]

2004-10-28 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-10-26 09:27:22, schrieb Martin Schulze:
 Michelle Konzack wrote:
  Hello Martin and *, 
  
  Am 2004-10-24 11:24:26, schrieb Martin Schulze:
   Preparation of the next stable Debian GNU/Linux update
   ==

 You should first check whether they exist no the original security server.
 If they do, you'll have to contact the ftp.de mirror maintainer.

Every time I have tried to connect toftp://security.debian.org/ I have
goten a Connection refused. So I was looking for an oter Mirror...
And I used http I had to wait a day for downloading stuff.

Have checked the ftp for some seconds before I had begun this mail...

Now it works ?

:-)

Sorry for the reclamation... Last time I have used security.debian.org
was for 18 month or something like this

 Regards,
 
   Joey

Sorry for the reclamation...

Greetings
Michelle

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aide 0.8-2 moved /etc/aide/aide.conf to /usr/local/etc/aide.conf

2004-10-28 Thread Mark-Walter
Hello,

I've just installed aide for woody but it was required to
move /etc/aide/aide.conf to /usr/local/etc/aide.conf.

Can someone reproduce this if it's a bug or not ?

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Re: Bug#278075: ITP: libical0 -- An implementation of basic iCal

2004-10-28 Thread Ricardo Mones
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:04:51 +0200
Gürkan Sengün [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Brent has already a packaged libical here:
 http://people.debian.org/~bfulgham/gnustep/

  Yeah, but that's not in the archive :)
  And even having that one it wouldn't serve, as vcalendar plugin
needs specifically the 0.23 (stable) version (that RC modifies the API).

  regards,
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Re: Location of Type 1 fonts

2004-10-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 25 octobre 2004  16:16 -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas a crit :
 I'm confused as to where to place Type 1 fonts.  Should they go into
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 or /usr/share/fonts/type1?  Why do some TeX
 packages have their fonts under /usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1?

Generally, fonts should be placed under /usr/share/fonts. If not, it's
better if they are registered with defoma. This way they'll be available
to most applications through fontconfig.

TeX does its own stuff with fonts, and it's not enough to drop a font in
the TeX directory to make it available to TeX documents. It would be
possible, but quite complicated, using defoma.
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Re: Bug#278255: ITP: rdflib -- A python library for working with RDF

2004-10-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 27 octobre 2004  20:12 +0200, Alberto Rodriguez Galdo a
crit :
 deb http://www.igaelica.com/debian ./
 
 It's name is python2.3-rdflib as it depends on python  2.2

Please, don't do that. You should name it python-rdflib and use
${python:Depends} to generate the python dependency. Build-depending on
python (= 2.3) will ensure older versions of python won't be used to
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d-i using kexec

2004-10-28 Thread Justin Pryzby
Has anybody ever considered the possibility of a 0-reboot
installation?

It seems that this should be possible with (or without?) kexec.

I think the reason the installer presently reboots is to load the
*real* kernel (which will be used during normal runtime) rather than
the installer kernel.

Rebooting also allows the boot process as a whole to get tested (Did
the MBR get written correctly?).

Are there other reasons?

Justin


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Re: software updates file in /usr -- policy bug?

2004-10-28 Thread paddy
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 08:28:26AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach paddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.26.2114 +0200]:
  What software writes to /usr ?
 
 As noted in the OP, apt-spy, pciutils, and probably others.

My apologies, I only just got that post today! 
 
I dived in a little early, but I've read that and #277816,
so I may as well throw in my twopenneth:

IMHO, The FHS is a little fuzzy on /usr/share:

  Any program or package which contains or requires data that doesn't 
  need to be modified should store that data in /usr/share

In any case, I imagine wanting to support the degenerate case of 
/usr/share on a /usr filesystem mounted ro.

I have sympathy with 'the administrator does it'.  And I believe in
supplying the best possible tools for the administrator.

By default, data which might otherwise live under /usr, but is
moved out because it is variable, would go to /var somewhere
(or a better place if one exists).

So the question must be:

  What use is served by keeping this data in /usr/share?

I'd also question whether this data is truly 'not host specific'.

Regards,
Paddy
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An important lesson

2004-10-28 Thread Matthew Garrett
Developers, do not allow 

http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl%3Asecring.gpg

to happen to you.

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Re: Preparation of the next stable Debian GNU/Linux update [Oct 24]

2004-10-28 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Joey, 

 You should first check whether they exist no the original security server.
 If they do, you'll have to contact the ftp.de mirror maintainer.

OK, checked... I have changed the Server to ftp://security.debian.org
and gotten the same problem:

  ( 'stdin' )___
 /
| 2004-10-28 15:56:57 : Reading tddebmirror
| 2004-10-28 15:56:57 : Reading values for Server 1
| 2004-10-28 15:56:57 : 1 : ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security
| 2004-10-28 15:56:57 : 1 : = Downloading Packages.gz
| 2004-10-28 15:57:03 : 1 : Creating file list
| 2004-10-28 15:57:05 : 1 : Get target directories.
| 2004-10-28 15:57:05 : 1 : Create target directories.
| : 1 : Erase old files.
| : 1 : Create download list.
| 2004-10-28 15:57:25 : 1 : Downloading packages.
| 2004-10-28 15:57:25 : 1 : 15054 : cabextract_0.2-2b_i386.deb
| 2004-10-28 15:57:26 : 1 : 66898 : catdoc_0.91.5-1.woody3_i386.deb
| 2004-10-28 15:57:29 : 1 : Downloading finished.
| 2004-10-28 15:57:29 : 1 : Create Packages.gz.
| 2004-10-28 16:00:31 : 1 : = Downloading Sources.gz
| 2004-10-28 16:00:33 : 1 : Get source directories.
| 2004-10-28 16:00:33 : 1 : Make target directories.
| 2004-10-28 16:00:33 : 1 : Create download list.
| 2004-10-28 16:00:43 : 1 : Erase old files.
| : 1 : Create download list.
| 2004-10-28 16:01:03 : 1 : Downloading sources.
| 2004-10-28 16:01:03 : 1 : missing : bind9_9.2.1.orig.tar.gz
| 2004-10-28 16:01:04 : 1 :  2314 : cabextract_0.2-2b.diff.gz
| 2004-10-28 16:01:06 : 1 :   568 : cabextract_0.2-2b.dsc
| 2004-10-28 16:01:07 : 1 : 66136 : cabextract_0.2.orig.tar.gz
| 2004-10-28 16:01:10 : 1 : 14289 : catdoc_0.91.5-1.woody3.diff.gz
| 2004-10-28 16:01:12 : 1 :   571 : catdoc_0.91.5-1.woody3.dsc
| 2004-10-28 16:01:14 : 1 :123460 : catdoc_0.91.5.orig.tar.gz
| 2004-10-28 16:01:18 : 1 : missing : kdegames_2.2.2.orig.tar.gz
| 2004-10-28 16:01:20 : 1 : missing : lv_4.49.4.orig.tar.gz
| 2004-10-28 16:01:21 : 1 : missing : lynx_2.8.4.1b.orig.tar.gz
| 2004-10-28 16:01:22 : 1 : missing : osh_1.7.orig.tar.gz
| 2004-10-28 16:01:23 : 1 : Downloading finished.
| 2004-10-28 16:01:23 : 1 : Create Sources.gz.
| 2004-10-28 16:01:30 : 1 : = Create dists/woody/updates/Release
| : 1 : = with md5sum
| 2004-10-28 16:01:30 : 1 : = Finished.
 \__

The five missing files are not on ftp://security.debian.org/
but the diff.gz and dsc are still there.

ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/b/bind9/bind9_9.2.1.orig.tar.gz
ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/k/kdegames/kdegames_2.2.2.orig.tar.gz
ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/lv/lv_4.49.4.orig.tar.gz
ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/lynx/lynx_2.8.4.1b.orig.tar.gz
ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/o/osh/osh_1.7.orig.tar.gz

Should I fill a Bugreport ?
And if yes, against what ?

 Regards,
 
   Joey


Greetings
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Re: Versioned bugs in the BTS (was: Drop testing)

2004-10-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041028 17:00]:
 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Besides, we'll have a bug database which tracks version numbers. This in
  turn means that we have a nice distinction between bugs that are actually
  RC in the fix this if we'd want to release Etch tomorrow sense, and bugs
  that are RC in the keep this out of testing sense.
 
 This sounds great, and I heard that it has been promised for after the
 sarge release, sounding as if it was implemented yet. Is the counterpart
 also implemented, namely testing scripts that take this information into
 account? 

The implementation of version in the BTS is done so that the second is
not _so_ hard to implement (speaking as someone who has seen lots of
parts of britney).


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Re: RFS: kmenc15 - An advanced Qt/KDE MEncoder frontend.

2004-10-28 Thread Frank Küster
Shaun Jackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Perhaps that's true -- I must do a little reading. However, if you
 upload a package to contrib that build-depends on a package not in
 contrib or non-free, you'll get a FTBFS RC bug filed against you
 before you blink. 

Are there any (inofficial) buildds for contrib?

Regards, Frank
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special request - no spam - seriously!

2004-10-28 Thread Falko Klein
Hi

I know that this is for sure an usual request posted on this list. Sorry for
that.

But I am desperately looking for Debian hacker which are also engaged in
Linux. I know that Linux is not far from Debian. Anyway.

For my final thesis dealing with “coordination mechanism and coordination
success at Linux” I am looking for volunteers reserving some time for an
e-mail or telephone interview.

If you may want to support me on that…just let me know.

Kind regards,

Falko Klein


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Re: Comparing FHS 2.3 and 2.1

2004-10-28 Thread Travis Crump
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 19:53 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
paddy wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 11:28:14AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:02:02PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
5)==
User specific configuration files for applications are stored in the user's
home directory in a file that starts with the '.' character (a dot file). If
an application needs to create more than one dot file then they should be
placed in a subdirectory with a name starting with a '.' character, (a dot
directory). In this case the configuration files should not start with the '.'
character. 

	I have no idea if we comply, but this is a new requirement.
I think we do. This is common sense anyway, most applications I've seen
do it that way.
what about ~/Desktop and friends?
I don't know if Desktop falls under the heading of being a configuration
file or directorty. Not that I much like that directory, but like
Maildir, it seems out of the scope of this FHS requirement.

Is ~/Desktop a User specific configuration files for applications?
Doesn't seem like it to me.  It and ~/Maildir are data directories.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ll Desktop
lrwxrwxrwx  1 pretzalz pretzalz 29 Dec 30  2003 Desktop - 
/home/pretzalz/.gnome-desktop

Seems an almost implicit admission that Desktop is wrong.  If I really 
wanted that symlink I could make it myself.  And I don't use it but I 
thought .gnome-desktop/Desktop is where you configure via symlinks what 
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Re: An important lesson

2004-10-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 03:40:48PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
 Developers, do not allow 
 
 http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl%3Asecring.gpg
 
 to happen to you.

And it's better to repeat it three times:
http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/wanna-build/secring.gpg
http://ftp.belnet.be/linux/debian-amd64/wanna-build/secring.gpg
http://ftp.belnet.be/pub/mirror/debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/wanna-build/secring.gpg

Mike




Re: Bug#262507: ITP: resmgr -- resource manager library

2004-10-28 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 05:03:43PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote:
 For those of you interested, I've uploaded resmgr 1.0-1 to
 experimental (must go through NEW, etc.).
 
 I'll upload a version of sane-backends built with resmgr support to
 experimental when sane-backends 1.0.15 will be released (end of next
 week, IIRC).
 
 I plan to have SANE built with resmgr support for Etch, and I hope
 other applications will support resmgr too. It can make life a lot
 easier, and changes to the code are really minimal.

It is, however, a security hole; it's functionally equivalent to
pam_console (which we declined to ship in the past) and has the same
problems. As such it's not really an improvement in security over
making devices group- or world-accessible.

resmgr must not be enabled by default and should carry a big warning;
you can only use it in scenarios where you would be willing to use
pam_console.

(Why somebody bothered to implement resmgr instead of simply enhancing
pam_console is beyond me; probably NIH)

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Re: An important lesson

2004-10-28 Thread Stuart Yeates
Matthew Garrett wrote:
Developers, do not allow 

http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl%3Asecring.gpg
to happen to you.
I haven't checked lately, but at least some of those used to be:
(a) secret keys used in regression tests,
(b) honeypots and
(c) findable via google but not downloadable
cheers
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Re: An important lesson

2004-10-28 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Thursday 28 October 2004 16.40, Matthew Garrett wrote:
 Warning: The signature is bad.

I guess this was unavoidable in a posting about a security related issue 
with GnuPG...

greetings
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Re: USE flags ??

2004-10-28 Thread Brendan
On Thursday 28 October 2004 07:18, Jon Dowland wrote:
  i still like them both and still run both on servers,

 You run gentoo on *SERVERS*!?!?!

I guess someone would have to define servers in this context. A news server 
for downloading special avi files is not really a server in the sense of 
legitimacy, and/or 24/7 uptime...Someone who brags about inane Gentoo things 
(not that Gentoo isn't a great technology demonstration) strikes me as the 
type who would be running a server with such a loose definition of the word 
and bragging about it. Try replicating that setup with Gentoo. Good luck to 
him.

*flame suit on*

B




Re: d-i using kexec

2004-10-28 Thread Joey Hess
Justin Pryzby wrote:
 Has anybody ever considered the possibility of a 0-reboot
 installation?
 
 It seems that this should be possible with (or without?) kexec.
 
 I think the reason the installer presently reboots is to load the
 *real* kernel (which will be used during normal runtime) rather than
 the installer kernel.

That and so if it *doesn't* boot, you don't find yourself 3 hours (or 3
days) into installing Debian only to have to start over because of some
problem with the boot loader.

Note that in some installation methods in expert mode, there is a menu
item down near the bottom that lets you run the second stage if
installation without rebooting, although this is not well tested.

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Re: aide 0.8-2 moved /etc/aide/aide.conf to /usr/local/etc/aide.conf

2004-10-28 Thread Adam Majer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I've just installed aide for woody but it was required to
move /etc/aide/aide.conf to /usr/local/etc/aide.conf.

Can someone reproduce this if it's a bug or not ?

  

# apt-cache policy aide
aide:
  Installed: 0.8-2
  Candidate: 0.8-2
  Version Table:
 *** 0.8-2 0

No problems here. Aide conf file is in /etc/aide as it is suppose to be.

- Adam

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deletion of xpackman dir

2004-10-28 Thread Nico Golde
hi,
today i checked my local debian mirror and i saw that 
var/www/debian/pool/non-free/x/xpacman/ is an empty directory. can
someone delete it?
regards nico

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AMD64 Archive Key compromised!

2004-10-28 Thread Adam Majer
Matthew Garrett wrote:

Developers, do not allow 

http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl%3Asecring.gpg

to happen to you.

  

Yeah.

debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/wanna-build/secring.gpg
http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64/wanna-build/secring.gpg
is Forbidden, but

ftp.belnet.be/linux/debian-amd64/wanna-build/secring.gpg
http://ftp.belnet.be/linux/debian-amd64/wanna-build/secring.gpg
ftp.belnet.be/pub/mirror/debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/wanna-build/secring.gpg
http://ftp.belnet.be/pub/mirror/debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/wanna-build/secring.gpg

are wide open.

So, with no further delay, here's the revocation certificate for the
AMD64 archive key!
Man, people had secret keys on broken in machines and those were removed
from the archive. But to have a secring.gpg on Google?

I also took the liberty to send this revocation certificate to
keyring.debian.org

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Comment: A revocation certificate should follow

iGYEIBECACYFAkGBKG4fHQJzZWNyaW5nLmdwZyBmb3VuZCBvbiBHb29nbGUhIQAK
CRCVXxufOIK6/GbFAJ4yTldjZzm015upfsAcKwNoFf5y8wCdHRGITdO2XRWnbZy+
3q7JMAf9CI4=
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Re: Bug#278255: ITP: rdflib -- A python library for working with RDF

2004-10-28 Thread Alberto Rodriguez Galdo
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El Jueves, 28 de Octubre de 2004 16:24, Josselin Mouette escribió:
 Le mercredi 27 octobre 2004 à 20:12 +0200, Alberto Rodriguez Galdo a

 écrit :
  deb http://www.igaelica.com/debian ./
 
  It's name is python2.3-rdflib as it depends on python  2.2

 Please, don't do that. You should name it python-rdflib and use
 ${python:Depends} to generate the python dependency. Build-depending on
 python (= 2.3) will ensure older versions of python won't be used to
 build the package.

Done, thanks

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Re: SourceForge.net PR-Web Upgrade Notice.

2004-10-28 Thread Sean Perry
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
i'm forwarding this to debian devel for people's attention because
it would appear that debian has lost a quite large opportunity -
by not having selinux available.
PR choices, not much else. It is also entirely possible the last of the 
Debian faithful have left VA / SF.net.

For the record, the slow release times were welcomed (mostly) by the 
admin staff. They were used to things like Solaris or AIX which took a 
while to put out the next version. I keep using the past tense because 
my hunch is this decision is being made by new admins for new reasons.




Re: Several X applications refuse to start

2004-10-28 Thread Sean Perry
Andreas Tille wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Simon Huggins wrote:
Is this a Transmeta Crusoe based laptop?
No.  It is centrono based and I guess this is rather a problem of some pure
X applications, because Gnome and KDE applications and also Mozilla are
behaving fine.  The only thing is that sometimes fonts are not rendered
nicely (for instance the fonts in the menu of xmms look ugly and do
not seem to use TrueType fonts.
1) what locale? try C.
2) this looks like a font issue (as you mentioned) try forcing the app 
to load 'fixed' as its font.




Re: An important lesson

2004-10-28 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 18:08 +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
wrote:

 On Thursday 28 October 2004 16.40, Matthew Garrett wrote:
  Warning: The signature is bad.
 
 I guess this was unavoidable in a posting about a security related issue 
 with GnuPG...
 
Verifies fine here.

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Re: Why sysklog uses its own logrotate and not logrotate script

2004-10-28 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
 and before anybody asks, I already but all the things into logrotate. I
 just curious why its not there from beginning.

With current default configuration, if I add some more log files
info /etc/syslog.conf (e.g. to catch localN facilities), they get rotation
automatically. Can the same be achieved with logrotate same (without having
to add new files to logrotate configuration manually - it's always bad to
duplicate configuration)?




Re: Comparing FHS 2.3 and 2.1

2004-10-28 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
 Speaking of which: there used to be some proposed addition to FHS about
 re-locating all dot-files into ~/etc or some directory like that. Does
 anybody know what happened to that? I'm aware of the problems (sharing
 $HOME over several different machines etc.), but but I'll be glad if the
 mess were out of $HOME.

I think there is little hope here.
There are too many apps out that treat home directory as a wastebasket, and
probably Linux/Unix itself will be obsoleted faster than all those.




Re: Bug#262507: ITP: resmgr -- resource manager library

2004-10-28 Thread Julien BLACHE
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 I plan to have SANE built with resmgr support for Etch, and I hope
 other applications will support resmgr too. It can make life a lot
 easier, and changes to the code are really minimal.

 It is, however, a security hole; it's functionally equivalent to
 pam_console (which we declined to ship in the past) and has the same

It's a bit better than pam_console, however, which has a lot of
issues.

I uploaded to experimental to get some feedback on the possible
security issues/implications; I'm still trying to determine whether
there are holes (read: bigger holes than those which can exist with
other solutions) or not.

Could you point out the security issues you see in resmgr ?

I note that SuSE ships resmgr and has a couple of resmgr-enabled
applications. Of course, RedHat ships pam_console, so that's not a
point (and they're having a whole lot of problems with it, again).

 problems. As such it's not really an improvement in security over
 making devices group- or world-accessible.

It doesn't claim to be a more secure solution than fiddling with
ownership and permissions, only to be more convenient (and I tend to
think that it is).

 resmgr must not be enabled by default and should carry a big warning;
 you can only use it in scenarios where you would be willing to use
 pam_console.

As it is currently :
 - rsm_open_device() will fall back to a call to open() if resmgrd
   isn't available, so resmgr-enabled applications do not depend on
   resmgrd being up  running;
 - resmgrd isn't installed by default, you need to explicitly install
   it (no dependencies, only a Recommends that could be downgraded to
   a Suggests to avoid side-effects with some frontends to apt);
 - resmgrd won't be started until configured (no default config
   is shipped in the package, only an example config file);
 - you need to add pam_resmgr to your PAM config files by hand.

I will add the big blinking warning if/when it goes into unstable (if
there's a consensus against resmgr, I'll withdraw the ITP) if needed.

 (Why somebody bothered to implement resmgr instead of simply enhancing
 pam_console is beyond me; probably NIH)

If you haven't already, you might want to read
http://rechner.lst.de/~okir/resmgr/description.html

I'm still reviewing resmgr and I probably won't be done with it for
some more months (being low on free time). I won't upload to unstable
unless I'm sure it cannot harm and it isn't a gapping security hole.

The idea is to provide a tool to sysadmins who might want to use it,
and not something that works out of the box, with a half-broken
default config.

Thanks for your feedback,

JB.

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Re: d-i using kexec

2004-10-28 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Justin Pryzby may or may not have written...

 Has anybody ever considered the possibility of a 0-reboot installation?

 It seems that this should be possible with (or without?) kexec.

 I think the reason the installer presently reboots is to load the *real*
 kernel (which will be used during normal runtime) rather than the installer
 kernel.

 Rebooting also allows the boot process as a whole to get tested (Did the
 MBR get written correctly?).

 Are there other reasons?

WRT Acorn and compatible hardware...

In the absence of r/w support for ADFS (is it absent in the install kernel
for ARM? I've not checked), it'd be needed to allow the installed kernel to
be copied into the boot partition and to give the admin a chance to edit the
loader script. In the presence of said r/w support, you'll _definitely_ want
/dev/hda1 to be mounted as /boot if you want to do this from Linux.

In the MBR, there's no loader program to worry about ;-)

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Re: Drop testing

2004-10-28 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 02:03:31AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
 Trivial analysis:
()
 The release managers have been putting some effort into (a)(1) over the
 past year, and there's four of them now instead of just one. How much effort
 has the project been putting into the other factors?

I think there has been a lot of effort put in (a)(2), and (b)(1),
throughout the year, it's just that we have more software (and bugs) than
people willing (or with sufficient time or capabilities) to fix them.  We
should either have more people or less software. I think there's only one
reasonable answer to that dilemma. 

The fact that a lof of effort goes into (a)(2) but does not result into a
release in the time-frame we planned also makes people abandon their effort
due to desesperation. No matter how many RC bugs we fix in the distribution
there are always new ones on the road ahead.

Also note that there are _many_ patches in the BTS for RC (and many other
bugs). But RC bugs do not get fixed in time [0] this also shows that a
number of packages are not being properly maintained and we maybe could
maybe think a way to force the maintainer to give over maintainership if he
is overloaded with other work and he cannot fix the package in time.

  Probably there are non-technical problems with the uncoming release. But
  there are technical problems also, yes? Why not eliminate those? If instead
  of each mail in this thread a single RC bug that affects sarge was fixed,
  probably there could be *zero* such bugs now.
 
 Why not do both? Every time you post a mail to a thread like this, fix an
 RC bug. This is the ObBug: rule.
 

ObBug: 277099

Regards

Javier

[0] For obvious reasons this usually happens with popular software or
important parts of the system. Take a look at the (non-RC bugs) open
against sysklogd, just to pick one which I've been looking today (not
necessarily the worst one).


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Re: Waiting for unfinished jobs....

2004-10-28 Thread Luis Mayoral
El Martes, 26 de Octubre de 2004 02:06, Anibal Monsalve Salazar escribió:

 Package harbour is FTBFS on alpha, s390, m68k, powerpc and mips, as
 you can see at:

 http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?pkg=harbour

 Could someone shed some light on this problem?

Hi Anibal.

I'm the maintainer of Harbour. Recent commits of Przemyslaw Czerpak in 
harbour's cvs makes harbour code more arch-independant, and also enables 
compilation in AMD64. I'll package a cvs snapshot a.s.a.p.

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Re: Bug#262507: ITP: resmgr -- resource manager library

2004-10-28 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 08:46:18PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote:
  I plan to have SANE built with resmgr support for Etch, and I hope
  other applications will support resmgr too. It can make life a lot
  easier, and changes to the code are really minimal.
 
  It is, however, a security hole; it's functionally equivalent to
  pam_console (which we declined to ship in the past) and has the same
 
 It's a bit better than pam_console, however, which has a lot of
 issues.
 
 I uploaded to experimental to get some feedback on the possible
 security issues/implications; I'm still trying to determine whether
 there are holes (read: bigger holes than those which can exist with
 other solutions) or not.
 
 Could you point out the security issues you see in resmgr ?

The primary one is the same as pam_console: once you have an fd open,
you can keep it open for as long as you like. So all the fancy
restrictions on when you can open a device don't actually do anything;
if you can open it at any time, you have effective access, reducing it
to the same level of security as group permissions.

(Doing something about this would require either a genuine userspace
*proxy*, or kernel support; there's a few proposals floating around
about how pam_console could have done it right).

While it may make sense on some public terminals or demonstration
systems, you do not want it on hosts where device security is
important.

[Also, it's a liability to have a process running as root which opens
devices and then hands fds over to non-root processes; it could form
part of a privilege escalation attack. So you don't want it running
without a good reason].

 I note that SuSE ships resmgr and has a couple of resmgr-enabled
 applications. Of course, RedHat ships pam_console, so that's not a
 point (and they're having a whole lot of problems with it, again).

Yes, they just don't care. Secure-by-default isn't really a priority
for them. If you run a server on suse then resmgr is one of those
things you have to go through and rip out, like pam_console on redhat.

  - resmgrd isn't installed by default, you need to explicitly install
it (no dependencies, only a Recommends that could be downgraded to
a Suggests to avoid side-effects with some frontends to apt);

I'd say that's the really important one; we need to keep it that way.

  - resmgrd won't be started until configured (no default config
is shipped in the package, only an example config file);

And that's probably a good idea too (along with documentation that
clearly states what it does and does *not* do).

  (Why somebody bothered to implement resmgr instead of simply enhancing
  pam_console is beyond me; probably NIH)
 
 If you haven't already, you might want to read
 http://rechner.lst.de/~okir/resmgr/description.html

Yeah, they gave up on the puzzle of how to fix pam_console without
really trying. It's not as hard as they made it look; mostly you just
have to add hotplug support, and have pam_console itself record the
current user in a file or process someplace. Quite ironically, the
solutions to the problems they cite for pam_console are exactly the
same as the solutions they implemented for resmgr. Hence I figure it
was probably NIH.

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Re: Drop testing

2004-10-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041028 22:00]:
 Also note that there are _many_ patches in the BTS for RC (and many other
 bugs). But RC bugs do not get fixed in time [0] this also shows that a
 number of packages are not being properly maintained and we maybe could
 maybe think a way to force the maintainer to give over maintainership if he
 is overloaded with other work and he cannot fix the package in time.

I plan to go through the packages that are not released with sarge, and
propose to orphan / delete some / most of them.


Cheers,
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Re: RFS: kmenc15 - An advanced Qt/KDE MEncoder frontend.

2004-10-28 Thread Oded Shimon
On Thursday 28 October 2004 15:15, Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
 Hello Oded.

 snip

 Again, good luck.  If and when you find an
 appropriate sponsor, let me know the good news.

Wow, honestly, that was some damn great advice...

And it does sound very accurate and I do understand it. I don't know if I will 
follow through with it or not. I recently quit my job (good thing. fast 
food...), so I have plenty of time on my hands, so I might, on the other 
hand, I start army in less than 2 months (mandatory).

I understand Debian's interest in wanting people this serious and hard 
working, and putting these trials for them... But I must admit, it almost 
sounds not worth it for my project... :/ I simply developed kmenc15 myself 
for fun, put it up on some sites, and thought, why not have it also up on my 
favorite distro, and I never thought it would be something this complicated. 

My package requires relatively very small amount of maintaining (grand total 
of 100k including 90k of images :), and I have the obvious advantage of being 
both the author and maintainer... :) For this reason I find the trials almost 
pointless, as even a non-serious programmer can handle it.

Even though, for the pure cause of boredom, I might follow up on your very 
great advice, I'd like to think of myself as someone serious enough to do 
these things. I have no plan of becoming a DD though. I would only be very 
proud to see my favorite program in my favorite GNU/Linux distro

An honest Thankyou.
- ods15




Re: Drop testing

2004-10-28 Thread Clemens Schwaighofer
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On 10/28/2004 01:43 AM, Christoffer Sawicki wrote:

 The Debian Desktop Distribution will be something like this. I believe more 
 details will be available soon. Until then, http://debiandesktop.org/ has a 
 concept paper.

Is this a fork from the main debian distribution?

lg, clemens
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Re: NMU on sysklogd

2004-10-28 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Jerome Warnier]
 Could someone go through the list and NMU this? I'm willing to help,
 if necessary.

The maintainer of sysklogd have a problematic relationship with NMUs.
Have a look at bug #225895 for an ironic view on this. :)




Re: NMU on sysklogd

2004-10-28 Thread Jerome Warnier
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 00:46 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 [Jerome Warnier]
  Could someone go through the list and NMU this? I'm willing to help,
  if necessary.
 
 The maintainer of sysklogd have a problematic relationship with NMUs.
 Have a look at bug #225895 for an ironic view on this. :)
So what? Am I stuck with my problem like so many people are already? And
a friendly takeover of the package?
I already have to problem on at least 4 machines, with things as
POP-before-SMTP and log analysers, packaged in Debian.

-- 
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BeezNest s.a r.l.




Re: RFS: kmenc15 - An advanced Qt/KDE MEncoder frontend.

2004-10-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 05:10:04PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
 Shaun Jackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Perhaps that's true -- I must do a little reading. However, if you
  upload a package to contrib that build-depends on a package not in
  contrib or non-free, you'll get a FTBFS RC bug filed against you
  before you blink. 
 
 Are there any (inofficial) buildds for contrib?

None that I am aware of, at least.

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 smog  |   bricks
 AIR  --  mud  -- FIRE
soda water |   tequila
 WATER
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Re: Waiting for unfinished jobs....

2004-10-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:06:48AM +1000, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Package harbour is FTBFS on alpha, s390, m68k, powerpc and mips, as
 you can see at:
 
 http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?pkg=harbour
  
 Could someone shed some light on this problem?
 
 A build log extract follows.
 
 [...]
 gcc -I. -I../../../../include -Wall -g  -c ../../hbmlang.c -ohbmlang.o
 ../../../../source/compiler/linux/gcc/harbour ../../hbmake.prg  -n -q0 -w 
 -es2 -gc0 -I../../ -I../../../../include
 make[4]: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
 make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
 make[4]: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
 make[3]: *** [descend] Error 2
 make[1]: *** [first] Terminated
 make[2]: *** [first] Terminated
 make: *** [build-stamp] Terminated
 Build killed with signal 15 after 150 minutes of inactivity
 [...]

This is usually an internal buildd issue, and shouldn't be your problem.
In an attempt to prevent builds from using up too much buildd resources,
sbuild (the program in the buildd suite which does the actual building)
keeps an internal timer for every build that is running; if no output
arrives in the log file within that time, the build is killed for fear
of a loop. The default time which is allocated to a build is 150
minutes; the messages you see originate from make receiving SIGTERM.

If it is indeed expected behaviour that the harbour build is silent for
more than 150 minutes in a row, then the timeout will have to be
increased (this can be done on a per-package, per-buildd basis), and the
build retried, but this is part of the routine maintenance of a buildd.

If your package is not in either 'building' of 'needs-build' on an
architectur after having been built with such a result, then please
contact the buildd admins of the architecture involved; they'll be able
to tell you why this was done.

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Re: An important lesson

2004-10-28 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Scott James Remnant wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 18:08 +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
 wrote:
  On Thursday 28 October 2004 16.40, Matthew Garrett wrote:
   Warning: The signature is bad.
  
  I guess this was unavoidable in a posting about a security related issue 
  with GnuPG...
  
 Verifies fine here.

If you ignore the:

gpg: WARNING: This key has been revoked by its owner!
gpg:  This could mean that the signature is forgery.
gpg: reason for revocation: Key has been compromised
gpg: revocation comment: Compromised on the uid/gid remapping on alioth

perhaps.


Don Armstrong 

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enough people do that, then there'll be no legitimate reason left for
anyone to run an SMTP server, and the spam problem will be solved.

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Re: Comparing FHS 2.3 and 2.1

2004-10-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:02:02PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

   5)==
  
  User specific configuration files for applications are stored in the
  user's home directory in a file that starts with the '.' character (a
  dot file). If an application needs to create more than one dot file
  then they should be placed in a subdirectory with a name starting
  with a '.' character, (a dot directory). In this case the
  configuration files should not start with the '.' character. 
  
   I have no idea if we comply, but this is a new requirement.

 Holy...  and that's the area of FHS... how?

 First, does every single package have to comply with this?

 Off the top of my head:

* aspell stores user's dictionaries in ~/, and it store several
  files per languaje.
* bash reads and writes a number of files in ~/ (.bash_profile,
  .bashrc, .bash_history)
* there are several directories related to GNOME (at least ~/.gnome2
  and ~/.gnome2_private)
* vim has ~/.vimrc, ~/.viminfo (configure IIRC), ~/.vim/
* Window Maker stores its configuration across several files and
  directories under ~/GNUstep (configurable) (and no, I won't change
  the default because it's configurable via an environment variable)

   So, we have a few minor things to tweak (/media, /srv, and the
   XF86Config stuff, and then we should be OK to move to FHS 2.3 in
   Etch.

 Isn't the configuration file used by the X.org server called something
 else? (It's rather silly to hardcode the name of a configuration file
 used by a specific vendor)

 Marcelo




Re: apt-proxy v2 and rsync

2004-10-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 01:54:54PM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder 
wrote:
  IIRC the problem is that rsync is quite CPU-heavy on the servers, so
  while the mirrors have the (network) resources to feed downloads to
  100s of users, they don't have the (CPU) resources for a few dozen
  rsyncs.

 And shouldn't this be left as a decision for the mirror administrators?
 It's not like setting up a mirror _automatically_ allows rsync access
 to it, isn't it?

 Marcelo




Bug#278741: ITP: unalz -- The unalz tool is the utility used for decompressing alzip format file.

2004-10-28 Thread Yooseong Yang
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist


* Package name: unalz
  Version : 0.21
  Upstream Author : hardkoder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.kipple.pe.kr/win/unalz/
* License : BSD
  Description : The utility used for decompressing alzip format file. 
  The unalz tool is the utility used for decompressing alzip format file.
  It mainly operates on files with names ending in '.alz'.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.4.26
Locale: LANG=ko_KR.eucKR, LC_CTYPE=ko_KR.eucKR (charmap=EUC-KR) (ignored: 
LC_ALL set to ko_KR.eucKR)




Re: apt-proxy v2 and rsync

2004-10-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:20:19AM -0700, Ian Bruce said
 Now that gzip has the --rsyncable option, wouldn't it be feasible to
 rsync against compressed Packages files rather than having to keep the
 uncompressed ones around for this purpose?

You have to explicitly enable this option, which is not currently done.

-rob

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Accepted midentd 2.3.1-3 (i386 source)

2004-10-28 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:21:47 +0200
Source: midentd
Binary: midentd
Architecture: source i386
Version: 2.3.1-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 midentd- An ident replacement with masquerading support.
Closes: 242411
Changes: 
 midentd (2.3.1-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Before trying to remove an override, see if there IS one.
 Closes: #242411
Files: 
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 423973c93ae77139408cba4359d493f1 4341 net extra midentd_2.3.1-3.diff.gz
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midentd_2.3.1-3.dsc
  to pool/main/m/midentd/midentd_2.3.1-3.dsc
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Accepted roxen-fonts-iso8859-1 0-7 (all source)

2004-10-28 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:32:19 +0200
Source: roxen-fonts-iso8859-1
Binary: roxen-fonts-iso8859-1
Architecture: source all
Version: 0-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 roxen-fonts-iso8859-1 - Extra fonts for roxen
Closes: 269696
Changes: 
 roxen-fonts-iso8859-1 (0-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Don't depend on 'roxen' (have been removed). Instead
 depend on either 'roxen2', 'roxen3' or 'caudium'.
 Closes: #269696
Files: 
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 e6913c56a27129f54e0700d24a76dd60 3001 web optional roxen-fonts-iso8859-1_0-7.diff.gz
 91d87a3447fe252eb5c43e1f357c0ce9 3672544 web optional 
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roxen-fonts-iso8859-1_0-7.dsc
  to pool/main/r/roxen-fonts-iso8859-1/roxen-fonts-iso8859-1_0-7.dsc
roxen-fonts-iso8859-1_0-7_all.deb
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Accepted roxen-fonts-iso8859-2 0-7 (all source)

2004-10-28 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:41:42 +0200
Source: roxen-fonts-iso8859-2
Binary: roxen-fonts-iso8859-2
Architecture: source all
Version: 0-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 roxen-fonts-iso8859-2 - Extra fonts for roxen
Closes: 269697
Changes: 
 roxen-fonts-iso8859-2 (0-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Don't depend on 'roxen' (have been removed). Instead
 depend on either 'roxen2', 'roxen3' or 'caudium'.
 Closes: #269697
Files: 
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roxen-fonts-iso8859-2_0-7.dsc
  to pool/main/r/roxen-fonts-iso8859-2/roxen-fonts-iso8859-2_0-7.dsc
roxen-fonts-iso8859-2_0-7_all.deb
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Accepted libroxen-disclaimer 1.0-9 (all source)

2004-10-28 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
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Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:57:55 +0200
Source: libroxen-disclaimer
Binary: libroxen-disclaimer
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.0-9
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libroxen-disclaimer - Disclaimer module for the Roxen Challenger web server
Closes: 209597
Changes: 
 libroxen-disclaimer (1.0-9) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Improve description.
 Closes: #209597
   * Remove dependency on 'roxen'.
Files: 
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 7d3a8f503966bc2c34ea1798cf882686 1784 web optional libroxen-disclaimer_1.0-9.diff.gz
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libroxen-disclaimer_1.0-9.dsc
  to pool/main/libr/libroxen-disclaimer/libroxen-disclaimer_1.0-9.dsc
libroxen-disclaimer_1.0-9_all.deb
  to pool/main/libr/libroxen-disclaimer/libroxen-disclaimer_1.0-9_all.deb


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Accepted python-libgmail 0.0.8-3 (all source)

2004-10-28 Thread martin f. krafft
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Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:30:03 +0200
Source: python-libgmail
Binary: python-libgmail
Architecture: source all
Version: 0.0.8-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 python-libgmail - Python bindings to access Gmail accounts
Changes: 
 python-libgmail (0.0.8-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Added threadinfo patch by Pasi Savolainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]. See
 README.Debian for details. The patch has been submitted to upstream, but
 has not yet been acknowledged.
Files: 
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  to pool/main/p/python-libgmail/python-libgmail_0.0.8-3.diff.gz
python-libgmail_0.0.8-3.dsc
  to pool/main/p/python-libgmail/python-libgmail_0.0.8-3.dsc
python-libgmail_0.0.8-3_all.deb
  to pool/main/p/python-libgmail/python-libgmail_0.0.8-3_all.deb


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Accepted radiusclient 0.3.2-7 (i386 source)

2004-10-28 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:35:55 +0200
Source: radiusclient
Binary: libradius1-dev libradius1 radiusclient1
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.3.2-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libradius1 - /bin/login replacement with RADIUS. Shared lib to used by program
 libradius1-dev - /bin/login replacement with RADIUS. Header file and link lib.
 radiusclient1 - /bin/login replacement which uses the RADIUS protocol for authent
Closes: 215916 239165
Changes: 
 radiusclient (0.3.2-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Check to see if the configuration value isn't null in addition
 to the option != NULL.
 Patch by Craig Small.
 Closes: #215916
   * Allow rc_conf_str() to be called with a constant.
 Patch by Russell Coker.
 Closes: #239165
Files: 
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  to pool/main/r/radiusclient/libradius1-dev_0.3.2-7_i386.deb
libradius1_0.3.2-7_i386.deb
  to pool/main/r/radiusclient/libradius1_0.3.2-7_i386.deb
radiusclient1_0.3.2-7_i386.deb
  to pool/main/r/radiusclient/radiusclient1_0.3.2-7_i386.deb
radiusclient_0.3.2-7.diff.gz
  to pool/main/r/radiusclient/radiusclient_0.3.2-7.diff.gz
radiusclient_0.3.2-7.dsc
  to pool/main/r/radiusclient/radiusclient_0.3.2-7.dsc


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Accepted nagat 1.0a2-4 (all source)

2004-10-28 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:17:25 +0200
Source: nagat
Binary: nagat
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.0a2-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 nagat  - Nagios Administration Tool
Closes: 257024
Changes: 
 nagat (1.0a2-4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Include missing nagat.css.
 Closes: #257024
Files: 
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 a2a1613ef3afb85eed72e96c2ada0041 3788 web extra nagat_1.0a2-4.diff.gz
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nagat_1.0a2-4.dsc
  to pool/main/n/nagat/nagat_1.0a2-4.dsc
nagat_1.0a2-4_all.deb
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Accepted libdbix-searchbuilder-perl 1.12-1 (all source)

2004-10-28 Thread Stephen Quinney
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Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:07:04 +0100
Source: libdbix-searchbuilder-perl
Binary: libdbix-searchbuilder-perl
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.12-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Stephen Quinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Stephen Quinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libdbix-searchbuilder-perl - Perl extension for easy SQL SELECT statement generation
Changes: 
 libdbix-searchbuilder-perl (1.12-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release
   * debian/watch - Added file.
   * debian/rules:
 * Use dh_installman instead of dh_installmanpages
 * Commented out a few unused dh_* commands
 * Also do 'make test'
 * Only attempt to 'make distclean' if there is a Makefile
Files: 
 b1ea5ae5109c4d97d392b5c4b09159ce 823 perl optional 
libdbix-searchbuilder-perl_1.12-1.dsc
 9d8206147d8f4123bdf41bc44884fd33 40497 perl optional 
libdbix-searchbuilder-perl_1.12.orig.tar.gz
 1e518170a20c1914c385428dca585108 2831 perl optional 
libdbix-searchbuilder-perl_1.12-1.diff.gz
 d7b126ac14fdb459475655ab34c849e4 71866 perl optional 
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libdbix-searchbuilder-perl_1.12-1.diff.gz
  to 
pool/main/libd/libdbix-searchbuilder-perl/libdbix-searchbuilder-perl_1.12-1.diff.gz
libdbix-searchbuilder-perl_1.12-1.dsc
  to pool/main/libd/libdbix-searchbuilder-perl/libdbix-searchbuilder-perl_1.12-1.dsc
libdbix-searchbuilder-perl_1.12-1_all.deb
  to 
pool/main/libd/libdbix-searchbuilder-perl/libdbix-searchbuilder-perl_1.12-1_all.deb
libdbix-searchbuilder-perl_1.12.orig.tar.gz
  to 
pool/main/libd/libdbix-searchbuilder-perl/libdbix-searchbuilder-perl_1.12.orig.tar.gz


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Accepted php4-idn 1.0-3 (i386 source)

2004-10-28 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:33:12 +0200
Source: php4-idn
Binary: php4-idn
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.0-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 php4-idn   - PHP api for the IDNA library
Closes: 274593
Changes: 
 php4-idn (1.0-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Add 'cli' to the list of php4 'modules' to add/remove the IDN
 extension to.
 Closes: #274593
Files: 
 b625e9eb871519257ad55fbd26271efb 565 web optional php4-idn_1.0-3.dsc
 758810d69f8d04c3f47f694872cd8fff 25891 web optional php4-idn_1.0-3.tar.gz
 ae5f1056911f972da1b7671cc306cffe 9740 web optional php4-idn_1.0-3_i386.deb

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Accepted:
php4-idn_1.0-3.dsc
  to pool/main/p/php4-idn/php4-idn_1.0-3.dsc
php4-idn_1.0-3.tar.gz
  to pool/main/p/php4-idn/php4-idn_1.0-3.tar.gz
php4-idn_1.0-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/p/php4-idn/php4-idn_1.0-3_i386.deb


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Accepted brltty 3.4.1-4 (i386 source)

2004-10-28 Thread Mario Lang
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Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:21:03 +0200
Source: brltty
Binary: brltty-udeb libbrlapi-dev libbrlapi brltty
Architecture: source i386
Version: 3.4.1-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Mario Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Mario Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 brltty - Access software for a blind person using a soft braille terminal
 brltty-udeb - Access software for a blind person using a soft braille terminal (udeb)
 libbrlapi  - braille display access via BRLTTY - shared library
 libbrlapi-dev - Library for communication with BRLTTY - static libs and headers
Changes: 
 brltty (3.4.1-4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fix stupid typo in prebaseconfig script ($file not $flie).
Files: 
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 d3fb7608a8117c2375613ca8b8f48c8e 29837 admin extra brltty_3.4.1-4.diff.gz
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 687ebd015983e44e94b510520beb1e52 31486 libs extra libbrlapi_3.4.1-4_i386.deb
 c66574770bb07d6658e1734e227a1bb0 126780 libdevel extra libbrlapi-dev_3.4.1-4_i386.deb
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Accepted:
brltty-udeb_3.4.1-4_i386.udeb
  to pool/main/b/brltty/brltty-udeb_3.4.1-4_i386.udeb
brltty_3.4.1-4.diff.gz
  to pool/main/b/brltty/brltty_3.4.1-4.diff.gz
brltty_3.4.1-4.dsc
  to pool/main/b/brltty/brltty_3.4.1-4.dsc
brltty_3.4.1-4_i386.deb
  to pool/main/b/brltty/brltty_3.4.1-4_i386.deb
libbrlapi-dev_3.4.1-4_i386.deb
  to pool/main/b/brltty/libbrlapi-dev_3.4.1-4_i386.deb
libbrlapi_3.4.1-4_i386.deb
  to pool/main/b/brltty/libbrlapi_3.4.1-4_i386.deb


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Accepted kinoplus 0.3.2-5 (i386 source)

2004-10-28 Thread Roland Mas
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:30:36 +0200
Source: kinoplus
Binary: kinoplus
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.3.2-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 kinoplus   - effect plug-ins for kino
Changes: 
 kinoplus (0.3.2-5) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New maintainer, no changes.  Thanks, Jens!
Files: 
 2cf871e7a20b7922b48a437245d3e612 619 graphics extra kinoplus_0.3.2-5.dsc
 64077a6e1b2c03ea0baa5fde8ddefd7b 3083 graphics extra kinoplus_0.3.2-5.diff.gz
 df56eb4e3520e4eff542d973814ed79f 85970 graphics extra kinoplus_0.3.2-5_i386.deb

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Accepted:
kinoplus_0.3.2-5.diff.gz
  to pool/main/k/kinoplus/kinoplus_0.3.2-5.diff.gz
kinoplus_0.3.2-5.dsc
  to pool/main/k/kinoplus/kinoplus_0.3.2-5.dsc
kinoplus_0.3.2-5_i386.deb
  to pool/main/k/kinoplus/kinoplus_0.3.2-5_i386.deb


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Accepted dvtitler 0.1.1-2 (i386 source)

2004-10-28 Thread Roland Mas
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:26:14 +0200
Source: dvtitler
Binary: kino-dvtitler
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.1.1-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 kino-dvtitler - title generator for use with kino
Changes: 
 dvtitler (0.1.1-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New maintainer, no changes.  Thanks, Jens!
Files: 
 5000a5083f4dcad6f27ff0ab89a1252c 612 graphics optional dvtitler_0.1.1-2.dsc
 4e391cdf33094fdfbc2d40e7b89e534d 1962 graphics optional dvtitler_0.1.1-2.diff.gz
 226c13e9477046a018f3101ece2a76a6 19960 graphics optional 
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Accepted:
dvtitler_0.1.1-2.diff.gz
  to pool/main/d/dvtitler/dvtitler_0.1.1-2.diff.gz
dvtitler_0.1.1-2.dsc
  to pool/main/d/dvtitler/dvtitler_0.1.1-2.dsc
kino-dvtitler_0.1.1-2_i386.deb
  to pool/main/d/dvtitler/kino-dvtitler_0.1.1-2_i386.deb


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