Why are all packages getting so much bigger?
While working on the Debian Edu CD building, I notice fewer and fewer of the packages we want fit on the CD any more. Everything seem to increase in size. Comparing it to the sarge versions, we are running seriously short on CD space. Here are some random examples of packagse including some dependencies. packagekiB-sarge kiB-etch increase - hdparm 50 57 14% kghostview 222228 2% lsscsi 11 19 72% mdadm 101155 53% openssl887969 9% rdesktop92101 9% samba 4392 5440 23% slapd 1079 1353 25% tcptraceroute 29 97234% zip 97104 7% Did anyone investigate why packages increase so much in size? Did the compiler start generating large binaries? Some of this will be because changelog increase in size, but I doubt it can have that large impact on the package sizes. The increased size make it very hard for our custom Debian distribution to fit on the CD we want to fit on. :/ Friendly, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#388569: general: always printed in letter format
Package: general
Severity: important
Sorry for reporting on this unspecific level, but i cannot
isolate.
Since updating to etch some weeks ago i was not able to print
from firefox, because always letter format is requested on the
printer panel. This happens independend of the input in the
printer property fields in the printing dialog if firefox (where
i entered "A4") and independend of the printer settings in cups
(where i also use "A4") - see bug 383.255.
First i thought this a specific problem of firefox, but now i
have the same missbehaviour with xpdf, so i think it is a more
general problem which i cannot identify.
Both programms worked fine in sarge.
The only help i can give, is that i can work around in both cases
by printing to a file and remove the first line containing
"/PageSize 3" with an editor and afterwards use lpr on the
command line to print that modified postscript-file.
Because i cannot think that this is the intended "new debian way
of printing" and because a am happy with debian for years i dont
want to change distribution because of this, but i also dont want
to life with this situation for a long time.
I use a standard gnome desktop installation and the Cups printing
system. My printer is a HP Laserjet 4 plus.
Two examples:
=
* head of the original postscript file (requesting letter format
independend of the "%%DocumentPaperSizes: A4" line) produced by
firefox:
%!PS-Adobe-3.0
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 595 842
%%HiResBoundingBox: 0 0 595.25 841.9
%%Creator: Mozilla PostScript module (rv:1.8.0.6/0)
%%DocumentData: Clean8Bit
%%DocumentPaperSizes: A4
%%Orientation: Portrait
%%Pages: 1
%%PageOrder: Ascend
%%EndComments
% MozillaCharsetName: iso-8859-1
%%BeginProlog
/setpagedevice where
{ pop 2 dict
dup /PageSize [ 595.25 841.9 ] put
dup /Policies 1 dict
dup /PageSize 3 put
put
setpagedevice
} if
* diff file against the modified firefox postscript file which
worked fine on my printer:
--- firefox_letter.ps 2006-09-21 10:41:32.0 +0200
+++ firefox_a4.ps 2006-09-21 10:41:55.0 +0200
@@ -15,7 +15,6 @@
{ pop 2 dict
dup /PageSize [ 595.25 841.9 ] put
dup /Policies 1 dict
-dup /PageSize 3 put
put
setpagedevice
} if
* original postscript file (requesting letter format)
produced by xpdf:
%!PS-Adobe-3.0
%%Creator: xpdf/pdftops 3.01
%%LanguageLevel: 2
%%DocumentSuppliedResources: (atend)
%%DocumentMedia: plain 595 841 0 () ()
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 595 841
%%Pages: 1
%%EndComments
%%BeginDefaults
%%PageMedia: plain
%%EndDefaults
%%BeginProlog
%%BeginResource: procset xpdf 3.01 0
/xpdf 75 dict def xpdf begin
% PDF special state
/pdfDictSize 15 def
/pdfSetup {
3 1 roll 2 array astore
/setpagedevice where {
pop 3 dict begin
/PageSize exch def
/ImagingBBox null def
/Policies 1 dict dup begin /PageSize 3 def end def
{ /Duplex true def } if
currentdict end setpagedevice
} {
pop pop
} ifelse
} def
/pdfStartPage {
pdfDictSize dict begin
/pdfFillCS [] def
/pdfFillXform {} def
/pdfStrokeCS [] def
/pdfStrokeXform {} def
/pdfFill [0] def
/pdfStroke [0] def
/pdfFillOP false def
/pdfStrokeOP false def
/pdfLastFill false def
/pdfLastStroke false def
/pdfTextMat [1 0 0 1 0 0] def
/pdfFontSize 0 def
/pdfCharSpacing 0 def
/pdfTextRender 0 def
/pdfTextRise 0 def
/pdfWordSpacing 0 def
/pdfHorizScaling 1 def
/pdfTextClipPath [] def
} def
/pdfEndPage { end } def
* diff file against the modified xpdf postscript file which
worked fine on my printer:
--- xpdf_letter.ps 2006-09-21 10:25:32.0 +0200
+++ xpdf_a4.ps 2006-09-21 10:38:57.0 +0200
@@ -20,7 +20,6 @@
pop 3 dict begin
/PageSize exch def
/ImagingBBox null def
- /Policies 1 dict dup begin /PageSize 3 def end def
{ /Duplex true def } if
currentdict end setpagedevice
} {
By the way printing from openoffice works fine (at least writer
and calc).
Feel free to request any information you need to isolate that
missbehaviour.
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Re: RFA libtorrent and rtorrent
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arnaud Fontaine escribió: >> "Qingning" == Qingning Huo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Qingning> Because of recent changes in my Real Life, I cannot spend > Qingning> enough time on libtorrent and rtorrent as I would like. > Qingning> Whoever want to adopt are welcome to take over their > Qingning> maintenance. I would recommend them be adopted together, > Qingning> because they are closely related (same author), and new > Qingning> upstream versions are always released at the same time. > > Hey, > > I'm interesting by taking care of this package. Is it still possible ? > Will you fill a RFA ? > > Regards, > Arnaud Fontaine > > Hi Arnaud, I already take both, thanks anyway. - -- ~ghostbar @ linux/debian 'unstable' on i686 - Linux Counter# 382503 http://ghostbar.ath.cx/ - irc.freenode.net #talug #velug #debian-es http://debianvenezuela.org.ve - irc.debian.org #debian-es #debian-ve San Cristobal - Venezuela. TALUG -- http://linuxtachira.org CHASLUG -- http://chaslug.org.ve - irc.unplug.org.ve #chaslug Fingerprint = 3E7D 4267 AFD5 2407 2A37 20AC 38A0 AD5B CACA B118 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFE1jkOKCtW8rKsRgRArnKAKDbK5obZmBIGQrZwkkDFNWkBpsjmQCfSZMX 5EWUSDo0QzFh+85FrDAPRUk= =6EkA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFA libtorrent and rtorrent
> "Qingning" == Qingning Huo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Qingning> Because of recent changes in my Real Life, I cannot spend Qingning> enough time on libtorrent and rtorrent as I would like. Qingning> Whoever want to adopt are welcome to take over their Qingning> maintenance. I would recommend them be adopted together, Qingning> because they are closely related (same author), and new Qingning> upstream versions are always released at the same time. Hey, I'm interesting by taking care of this package. Is it still possible ? Will you fill a RFA ? Regards, Arnaud Fontaine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
\ Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 04:42:27PM -0500, alfredo diega wrote: > I just need to loose my pride and switch to Ubuntu. I haven't and I know > the LUG here will laugh at me and tell me "We told you so" but what you > say is true. Different goals. What I was telling my friends was I wanted > to use the best community distro based on free software out there. It's an indispensable trait of community distros that problems get solved when someone "scratches an itch" because they /need/ the problem to be solved. In either Ubuntu or in Debian there are certainly developers who care about supporting as much hardware as possible, but none of them will ever care about *your* computer as much as *you* do personally -- so the truly great thing about community distros is that even if you're not a programmer, you have more options than passively accepting the limitations or switching distros: you can scratch your own itch by filing bug reports, to help the developers help you. > I thought it was Debian and maybe it still is but I guess I need to ask > myself: What is the best community distro based on free software that > isn't so free that it doesn't work. I guess that right now is Ubuntu. Well, it's certainly the case that not everyone agrees with the particular balance that Debian chooses between utility and freeness, but I also think that some of the problems you're running into are simply bugs, not ideological conflicts. You may be right that this means Ubuntu is a better fit for your needs than Debian is today, anyway; even in Free Software, "one size fits all" doesn't always fit well, no matter how much we'd love for everyone to be wearing Debian. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
Am Donnerstag 21 September 2006 23:58 schrieb Amaya: > I guess you were "blessed" with an ugly piece of hardware with freedom > issues in its support. It is going to take some time until it is ready, > probably in a part of our archive that is labeled as non-free, and > maybe, as you own this hardware, you might even be interested in helping > out, if you are not so angry anymore, at least at the later testing > stages. Both distros would benefit from this work, btw. With every distribution or OS (name any) you get to a point where not everything works with the shipped set of utilities and drivers. After all, the current situation is not worse than it was ten years ago when patching and self-compiling kernels was the only way to go. I still find it questionable to change distribution because they have _that_ package and another doesn't. So what? It's about the same issue like all those non-sense test that compare distribution by looking at the installation process. I agree though that there is no major difference between e.g. the madwifi driver and that utility for the 3945ABG. I wouldn't care though if none of the two are in Debian, even though I own an Atheros card. Sure, installing the firmware for bcm43xx like with the debian package is very easy but doing it without it is a manageable task. It should be no major problem to install that piece of non-free software. It is already there. And if installing something beyond using aptitude or even dpkg is too heavy for a user, he should ask someone who knows. Oh wait, he could learn something but many do not want to learn anything. It must be pre-chewed and reading some short installation instruction is surely no way to go, is it? Changing to another distribution does not change the cause of insufficient knowledge about the system. And the next problem will come. Personally, I like it that Debian tries hard to keep it a place for free software (although sometimes it gets absurd). And if it implies some restrictions or upstream authors that do not want to understand (guess who), well, everything has ups and downs. However, there are times when this POV results in better solutions (loadable instead of driver-embedded firmware is such a case). Let nomads go their way... HS pgpUVGqxUEyQK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
At 1158835506 past the epoch, alfredo diega wrote: > Next: SD drive, works with Ubuntu with their "free > stuuf." Probably isn't supported by policy either. Without more specifics I can't be sure, but if it's an sdhci device, the driver was merged into mainline starting with 2.6.17. I believe dapper carries 2.6.16, and I think one of their kernel gurus backported the sdhci driver patches to that kernel[1] so that hardware support would be present for the release, prior to it being officially in the kernel. Again I'm not 100% sure here but I think the default kernel in Etch will be 2.6.17 or greater so the odds are that your driver should work out-of-the-box by the time we actually release. Either way, 2.6.17 is available in etch to apt-get right now. [1] Actually, the sdhci people rewrote the driver a great deal shortly after 2.6.17 came out because they got ahold of a spec for the device, finally. They had previously written everything based on very scant info and reverse engineering. The out-of-tree patches at the time of 2.6.17 result in much faster transfers to SDHCI devices. I don't know if dapper has these, and I don't know if they made 2.6.18. -- Jon Dowland http://alcopop.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
alfredo diega wrote: > Well, I guess it isn't fair. Look, have any of you ever sent an email > out of frustration, then wish you could take it back? I am sorry, I > hope somebody will forgive me. We all have, no big deal. > I just need to loose my pride and switch to Ubuntu. No, you just need to have a good laugh about this all. I suggest: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Debian http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu I think humor comes in handy to deal with hardware pain ;) I have a tshirt that says: "Debian: Good things come to those who... wait". I love it beacuse it is both fun and true. Things may work a bit differently here, but we do care about our users. I think freedom is important to our users, and while I also understand your fustration, we do emphazise freedom. I guess you were "blessed" with an ugly piece of hardware with freedom issues in its support. It is going to take some time until it is ready, probably in a part of our archive that is labeled as non-free, and maybe, as you own this hardware, you might even be interested in helping out, if you are not so angry anymore, at least at the later testing stages. Both distros would benefit from this work, btw. Have fun! -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
On 9/21/06, Thaddeus H. Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I ask you, is thatfair? Well, I guess it isn't fair. Look, have any of you ever sent an email out of frustration, then wish you could take it back? I am sorry, I hope somebody will forgive me. I just need to loose my pride and switch to Ubuntu. I haven't and I know the LUG here will laugh at me and tell me "We told you so" but what you say is true. Different goals. What I was telling my friends was I wanted to use the best community distro based on free software out there. I thought it was Debian and maybe it still is but I guess I need to ask myself: What is the best community distro based on free software that isn't so free that it doesn't work. I guess that right now is Ubuntu.
Re: new mplayer
Andrew Donnellan wrote: > > Since when was MPlayer acceptable in the Debian archive? I think he meant NEW, not incoming. But let's not resurrect old discussions. I was wondering, what's so important about mplayer? With totem and vlc (and I anticipate there's something similar for KDE) you have everything you need. I've never tried mplayer and I don't know how it looks or what it does, so that's just my uneducated guess. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new mplayer
On 9/21/06, A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi everybody I prepared a new mplayer (with help from Diego Biurrun of the mplayer team) it has version 1.0~rc1~svn19921 (note that I have decided to use the new ~ element, so this version appears to be older than 1.0rc1 or 1.0pre8 ; you may need to manually use dpkg to install it) it was uploaded into Debian incoming, and it is available from http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/etch/ Since when was MPlayer acceptable in the Debian archive? -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrewdonnellan.com http://ajdlinux.blogspot.com Jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG - hkp://subkeys.pgp.net 0x5D4C0C58 --- Member of Linux Australia - http://linux.org.au Debian user - http://debian.org Get free rewards - http://ezyrewards.com/?id=23484 OpenNIC user - http://www.opennic.unrated.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Orphaning discus (need help)
I've uploaded discus with the QA group as maintainer and filed an orphan bug. Thanks for your work on the discus package. I'm going to adopt this package. Thanks Ron for your work! Kind Regards, Sandro -- Sandro Tosi (aka Morpheus, matrixhasu) My (little) site: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#388650: O: discus -- Pretty version of df(1) command.
Package: wnpp Severity: normal The current maintainer of discus, Ron Farrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, has orphaned this package. If you want to be the new maintainer, please take it -- see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/index.html#howto-o for detailed instructions how to adopt a package properly. Some information about this package: Package: discus Binary: discus Version: 0.2.9-1.1 Priority: extra Section: utils Maintainer: Ron Farrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Build-Depends: debhelper, python Architecture: all Standards-Version: 3.5.2 Format: 1.0 Directory: pool/main/d/discus Files: 789b526a3531064542606696098aa676 486 discus_0.2.9-1.1.dsc 25b82d6f1e198a7504c8f213ee67d5fe 14638 discus_0.2.9-1.1.tar.gz Package: discus Priority: extra Section: utils Installed-Size: 96 Maintainer: Ron Farrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: all Version: 0.2.9-1.1 Depends: python Filename: pool/main/d/discus/discus_0.2.9-1.1_all.deb Size: 9368 MD5sum: af71adbcdd52532279f09fec63060596 SHA1: ae243fb615c205511d343a58020aae30d227e164 SHA256: 89c1b4bbcd9552cdcee79f3b757b430a3754881d3c4ce0a862ecd53b03dc8e52 Description: Pretty version of df(1) command. Discus aims to make df prettier, with features such as color, graphs, and smart formatting of numbers (automatically choosing the most suitable size from kilobytes, megabytes, gigabytes, or terabytes). If you don't want Discus deciding the best sizes, you can also choose your own increments, along with specifying the number of decimal places you'd like to see. Tag: interface::commandline, made-of::lang:python, role::sw:utility, use::scanning -- adn Mohammed Adnène Trojette
Re: Orphaning discus (need help)
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006, Ron Farrer wrote: > Hello, Hi Ron. > I am orphaning the package "discus". However, I no longer have a GPG key > in the keyring as it was revoked because of a GPG bug involving 4096-bit > keys. So I need someone to help with getting it marked as orphaned. This > message is signed with my old key if anyone still has it in their > personal keyring. I've uploaded discus with the QA group as maintainer and filed an orphan bug. Thanks for your work on the discus package. -- adn Mohammed Adnène Trojette -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:45:06 -0500 "alfredo diega" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lastly, suspend doesn't work with Debian but does with Dapper. What kind of suspend? suspend-to-ram (S3), (user space) software suspend to disk? How do you trigger it? FWIW, the kernels in dapper and unstable both have the possibility to suspend (to ram and disk). Suspend to disk should mostly works on PC-hardware. Suspend to ram is a bit more tricky, but I think ubuntu has the same software as debian, in this case. I could be however, that ubuntu installs packages by default which debian doesn't. grts Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Orphaning discus (need help)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am orphaning the package "discus". However, I no longer have a GPG key in the keyring as it was revoked because of a GPG bug involving 4096-bit keys. So I need someone to help with getting it marked as orphaned. This message is signed with my old key if anyone still has it in their personal keyring. CC me on replies as I am no longer subscribed to debian-devel. Thank you, Ron -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFEt1jPvIDyz5w0JcRAtOFAJ9BGekINbzykjsrPr/P9TLq4/yhHwCdGT8E OgDYkSKV13dykBUcdGXETCA= =soUY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Documentary from BBC World over FOSS and Development
Hi *, for those which do not know it already and have not seen it: http://www.apdip.net/news/fossdoc with a 37 minutes film (75 MByte, unfortunatly bad quality) http://videos.apdip.net/codebreakers.ogg works perfectly under Sarge with vlc, but MPlayer and Xine are crashing License Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ I had written already to Apdip (per Mail and Post) and ask, whether I can get the Video in PAL and a CD-fillig Bitstream... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:45:06AM -0500, alfredo diega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/21/06, Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >- > >I can see you're frustrated. You've invested a lot of energy into > >writing this note to us about a problem you see in Debian. Now, if it > >really does pain you to write it, the least you could do is tell us > >what your hardware is. Otherwise, how do you expect us to make things > >better for you? > > > >Regards, > >Ben > > > > Okay: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG. According to this message at > bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=363967 it isn't packaged because: Note that this driver requires a "binary user space regulatory daemon", and thus will never be in debian. At most, in non-free. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
alfredo diega wrote: > Okay: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG. According to this message at > bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=363967 it isn't packaged > because: > > "there is still an official statement of -release and -kernel about the > policy for oot-modules in etch missing." > > showing it just isn't in Debian because policy. Please read down to the bottom of the whole bug you cited above. Two developers are actively working on this, and there are technical problems with the package. Furthermore, you appear to be mistaken about Debian policy. Perhaps this is simply a matter of language. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ This key document is the technical foundation upon which the entire Debian distribution is built. Without it, you would not have the quality distribution you now enjoy. > Next: SD drive, works with Ubuntu with their "free stuuf." Probably > isn't > supported by policy either. I can't comment, as you have not given details. > Lastly, suspend doesn't work with Debian but does with Dapper. Again, without even a bug# reference, this is hard for me to check. > I am not an expert with all the technical specifics, but when I see > messages > like this from the release manager: > lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2006/09/msg00453.html I don't see the connection between this and the one concrete example you gave above. > I conclude, why am I trying to wait patiently? Is Debian ever going to > support hardware where there is "free software" out there for it? > Because > of > a pios loyalty to a docoument and not to mankind I conclude not. The bug report that *you* cited above indicates otherwise. I see developers who are concerned about working on the problems you are so passionate about having fixed. I see a Debian that cares about its users. Regards, Ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#388523: ITP: libdb4.4-ruby -- Interface to Berkeley DB 4.4 for Ruby
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: akira yamada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libdb4.4-ruby Version : 0.5.8 Upstream Author : Guy Decoux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://moulon.inra.fr/ruby/bdb.html * License : Ruby's Programming Lang: C, Ruby Description : Interface to Berkeley DB 4.4 for Ruby BDB is an interface to Berkeley DB, distributed by Sleepycat (http://www.sleepycat.com/). This package provides BDB for Ruby 1.8/1.9 linked to libdb4.4. Ruby's License: http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/LICENSE.txt -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.17.11 Locale: LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Possible regression in teTeX due to license problems: Please check whether your package is affected
"Kevin B. McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any chance you could also post the list of those with Build-Depends or > Build-Depends-Indep on these packages? Of course, sorry for forgetting this in the first place. Here's the list. And again the question: Is there a script to mass-mail to all maintainers in the output of dd-list? TIA, Frank Marc Dequènes (Duck) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cdbs (U) Davide Puricelli (evo) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> linuxfacile Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a2ps ptex-bin Ian Lynagh (wibble) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> haskell98-report haskell98-tutorial Salvador Abreu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gprolog Cosimo Alfarano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gocr libgocr Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gap gap-ctbllib pari Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> apt-howto (U) debian-reference debiandoc-sgml-doc (U) debiandoc-sgml-doc-pt-br (U) maint-guide (U) Hakan Ardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> avr-libc gdb-avr Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> junior-doc subproject-howto Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sane-backends Jeff Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cdbs (U) Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> inform Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> developers-reference (U) iproute (U) mgetty Douglas Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> r-base (U) Mirco Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cli-common (U) Daniel Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wmii-doc wmii2-doc Christian Bayle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> crystalspace Philipp Benner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wise Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> latex-bridge René van Bevern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cl-screen-sbcl cl-yacc Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> latex-svninfo Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> avrdude Richard C. Bilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> u++ Thaddeus H. Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> derivations Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> xen-3.0 (U) xen-unstable (U) Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ecartis Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> rlog svn-buildpackage Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tcng A. Maitland Bottoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> speex (U) Jeremy T. Bouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> xen-3.0 (U) xen-unstable (U) Cyril Bouthors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gnuplot Ludovic Brenta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asis-doc libaws libtemplates-parser libxmlada2 Ludovic Brenta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gnat-glade-doc gnat-gps Frank B. Brokken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bobcat stealth yodl Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> magnus Luis Bustamante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> lilo (U) Henrik Bäärnhielm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gap-matrix-schreiersims CDBS Hackers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cdbs Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> boot-floppies (U) Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asymptote gnustep-base (U) gnustep-gui (U) gnustep-make (U) Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kdegraphics (U) Isaac Clerencia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kdegraphics (U) C.M. Connelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tetex-src (U) Adam Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mysql-dfsg-5.0 (U) Julien Cristau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> advi (U) numerix (U) Tim Cutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> am-utils George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bobcat (U) stealth (U) Matthew Danish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> apt-dpkg-ref Vincent Danjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> latex-make paje.app paje.app (U) sgf2dg Julien Danjou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> xen-3.0 (U) xen-unstable (U) Debian Documentation Project developers-reference Debian GCC Maintainers gcc-3.4 gcc-snapshot Debian GGZ Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ggz-docs Debian GNUstep maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gnustep-base gnustep-gui gnustep-make gorm.app (U) Debian GPM Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gpm Debian GnuTLS Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> libgcrypt11 Debian Install System Team boot-floppies Debian Java Maintainers gjdoc Debian LyX Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> lyx Debian Mono Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cli-common Debian OCaml Maintainers advi numerix Debian Octave Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> octave2.1 octave2.1-forge octave2.9 octave2.9-forge Debian Policy List debian-policy Debian Python Modules Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pyfits Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers kdegraphics Debian Scientific Computing Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> freefem freefem3d gmsh Debian VoIP Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> speex Debian XML/SGML Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sgml-base-doc xmltex Debian Xen Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> xen-3.0 xen-unstable Debian-BR Team Maintainers apt-howto (U) DebianDoc-SGML Pkgs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> debiandoc-sgml-doc debiandoc-sgml-doc-pt-br Matthieu Delahaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> u++ (U) Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skribe Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> libgcrypt11 (U) Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gretl gsl octave2.1-forge (U) r-base rpy Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cdbs (U) ggz-docs
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
On 9/21/06, Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: -I can see you're frustrated. You've invested a lot of energy intowriting this note to us about a problem you see in Debian. Now, if itreally does pain you to write it, the least you could do is tell us what your hardware is. Otherwise, how do you expect us to make things better for you?Regards,Ben Okay: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG. According to this message at bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=363967 it isn't packaged because: "there is still an official statement of -release and -kernel about the policy for oot-modules in etch missing." showing it just isn't in Debian because policy. Next: SD drive, works with Ubuntu with their "free stuuf." Probably isn't supported by policy either. Lastly, suspend doesn't work with Debian but does with Dapper. I am not an expert with all the technical specifics, but when I see messages like this from the release manager: lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2006/09/msg00453.html I conclude, why am I trying to wait patiently? Is Debian ever going to support hardware where there is "free software" out there for it? Because of a pios loyalty to a docoument and not to mankind I conclude not. Alfredo Diega
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/21/06 08:46, Ben Armstrong wrote: > Alfredo, > > alfredo diega wrote: >>> It really pains me to write this since I have used stable for a long >>> time. >>> Unfortunately, I think you could use a wakeup call. >>> >>> Much of my hardware is never supported by you guys > > I can see you're frustrated. You've invested a lot of energy into > writing this note to us about a problem you see in Debian. Now, if it > really does pain you to write it, the least you could do is tell us > what your hardware is. Otherwise, how do you expect us to make things > better for you? The Psychic Friends Hotline? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFEpv2S9HxQb37XmcRAtWdAJ93EkNUdjhGHv4USThvfQCxKmI1CwCfRdqQ sKV+SRCV0AYCPJkAyeo2hls= =khIt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian cares more about documents than people
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alfredo, alfredo diega wrote: > It really pains me to write this since I have used stable for a long > time. > Unfortunately, I think you could use a wakeup call. > > Much of my hardware is never supported by you guys I can see you're frustrated. You've invested a lot of energy into writing this note to us about a problem you see in Debian. Now, if it really does pain you to write it, the least you could do is tell us what your hardware is. Otherwise, how do you expect us to make things better for you? Regards, Ben -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFEpe8WpTzygsnE8gRAsxnAKCevbb1aJ6OsnE3jK3m3P10QICWrACffNzd VnrZE22/G2IqmRZnjcTWegw= =xmj4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new mplayer
hi everybody I prepared a new mplayer (with help from Diego Biurrun of the mplayer team) it has version 1.0~rc1~svn19921 (note that I have decided to use the new ~ element, so this version appears to be older than 1.0rc1 or 1.0pre8 ; you may need to manually use dpkg to install it) it was uploaded into Debian incoming, and it is available from http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/etch/ a. -- Andrea Mennucc "E' un mondo difficile. Che vita intensa!" (Tonino Carotone) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#388607: ITP: python-htmlcalendar -- Python module for creating calendars in HTML format
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kevin Coyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: python-htmlcalendar Version : 1.1.1 Upstream Author : Hamish Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://freespace.virgin.net/hamish.sanderson/htmlcalendar.html * License : LGPL Programming Lang: Python Description : Python module for creating calendars in HTML format Functions and classes for generating one-month and twelve-month calendars in HTML format with optional links. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-1-686-smp Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- Kevin Coyner GnuPG key: 1024D/8CE11941 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian cares more about documents than people
It really pains me to write this since I have used stable for a long time. Unfortunately, I think you could use a wakeup call. Much of my hardware is never supported by you guys even though it is "free enough" to be supported by the linux kernel and other community groups like Ubuntu. Dapper has supported all my hardware "out of the box" without third party or unsupported stuff which are *really* nonfree. Even though Dapper's "out of the box software" is "free enough" to be able to modify and redistribute, you guys still refuse to support much of it because of some document, which I am beginning to believe you care more about than people. If you cared about people why would you not want them to be able to use software? *HOW MUCH FREEDOM CAN PEOPLE REALLY HAVE IF THEY CANNOT EVEN RUN THE SOFTWARE*? The real reason Ubuntu is more popular is somebody had the ingenious idea that people should have software that works. You have software that doesn't work in that people can't use it, yet who cares about the people, you have your documents which are more important. :) As for the documents, you pick and choose which ones to follow. Like you guys really pay attention to the social contract on these mailing lists? I think not. Documents which force you to care about people(Social Contract) you freely ignore whereas documents which get you out of supporting your users hardware, you hold to. Obviously, people are not what matter to you guys. Alfredo Diega
