Re: Conflicts in libgtk*-dev
*-Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | The fact that the *actual* libgtk1.1-dev package conflicts with | libgtk-dev, does not mean that the package libgtk1.13-dev, which provides | libgtk1.1-dev, must conflict with libgtk-dev. | | Or, in the abstract: | | If A conflicts with B, and C provides A, then C need not conflict with B. So this would imply that gnome-apt is wrong to deny me installing libgtk1.1.13-dev, right? -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to its feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Conflicts in libgtk*-dev
*-Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | On 30 Jan 1999, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: | | > Am I overlooking something obvious here? | > | > libgtk1.1.13-dev provides libgtk-dev and libgtk1.1-dev | > | > but | > | > libgtk1.1-dev conflicts with libgtk-dev | > | > this means that gnome-apt refuses to install libgtk1.1.13-dev, | > a package that I sorely need. Aren't these relationships somewhat odd. | | Nothing odd there. | | libgtk1.1-dev conflicts with libgtk-dev so that it won't be installed at | the same time as any other package which provides: libgtk-dev. OK, I have probably misunderstood something. libgtk1.1-dev conflicts with libgtk-dev, and does not provide libgtk-dev. I read the packaging-manual in a way that makes it impossible to install _any_ package that provides both. The relevant sections(?): When one package declares a conflict with another dpkg will refuse to allow them to be installed on the system at the same time. A special exception is made for packages which declare a conflict with their own package name, or with a virtual package which they provide (see below): this does not prevent their installation, and allows a package to conflict with others providing a replacement for it. You use this feature when you want the package in question to be the only package providing something. -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). (Matt Welsh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Conflicts in libgtk*-dev
Am I overlooking something obvious here? libgtk1.1.13-dev provides libgtk-dev and libgtk1.1-dev but libgtk1.1-dev conflicts with libgtk-dev this means that gnome-apt refuses to install libgtk1.1.13-dev, a package that I sorely need. Aren't these relationships somewhat odd. -- Eschew obfuscation(go on; look them both up) (Brian White) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome-apt debs now available
*-Mitch Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | | | Who says package management can't be Sexy? | Be the first one on your block to try Gnome-apt, the new | GUI front end for the Debian package tool. | | It slices... it dices... it makes fresh pasta... | and it has a groovy search function! | | Ah, but you forgot to mention the most attractive feature of them all: It even counts the packages downloaded in hex! -- Eschew obfuscation(go on; look them both up) (Brian White) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome-apt debs now available
*-Mitch Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | | | Who says package management can't be Sexy? | Be the first one on your block to try Gnome-apt, the new | GUI front end for the Debian package tool. | | It slices... it dices... it makes fresh pasta... | and it has a groovy search function! | | Ah, it's lovely. No more dselect for this boy. Feature request: Shouldn't it be possible to put a package on hold even if the newest version is installed? -- Eschew obfuscation(go on; look them both up) (Brian White) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's after slink
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) | | > - Another naming scheme without any background would be A, B, C... | > There where programming languages doing this for only three | > stages to get *very* popular... | | Nope. That wasn't the sequence that led to C. I won't swear to it, but I | seem to remember the predecessor of C was BCPL. CPL -> BCPL -> B -> C B was never widely published or used, so many don't count it. I don't think there ever was an A. -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). (Matt Welsh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intent to package sart and panorama
Sart is a ray-tracer written in Scheme. Panorama is a framework for 3D graphics production from GNU. None of them are finished, but they could be quite useable before our next release. -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to its feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .xsessions
*-Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | I keep seeing questions about getting .xsession's to work, the common | problem being failure to set +x. Wasn't someone going to tweak the | Xsession script to allow non-executable .xsessions? I'll file a wishlist bug with a patch to xbase. -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to it's feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: yagirc trouble (Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1)
*-Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | Ole J. Tetlie wrote: | > *-Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > | | > | yagirc24747 yagirc: Binary and Libs for yagirc stored in /bin and /lib [87] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton)) | > | | > | Davide isn't maintaining this package anymore. Ole, are you taking | > | care of this one, too? | > | > Yelp! This bug is now closed, but I think I found another. | > Can someone try yagirc, and see if it works at all. It starts up | > for me, but I can't connect. Fortunately, this was false alarm. My brain was down. | It crashes if there is no .yagirc directory. Argh. Will fix. | After the first crash it run but wasn't able to display the icons. Hehe. I complained to the author about the same thing. He told me that I was lucky because the current pixmaps were so ugly. Then I got suspicious and did: my_favourite_image_viewer /usr/share/yagirc/pixmaps/quit.xpm Try it! :-) | Screenshot at | http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/Linux/Debian/yagirc.png | | On startup I get tons of these: | | | Gdk-WARNING **: Creating pixmap from xpm with NULL window and colormap They are harmless, but annoying. Upstream is working on it. -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). (Matt Welsh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1
*-Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | yagirc24747 yagirc: Binary and Libs for yagirc stored in /bin and /lib [87] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton)) | | Davide isn't maintaining this package anymore. Ole, are you taking | care of this one, too? Yelp! This bug is now closed, but I think I found another. Can someone try yagirc, and see if it works at all. It starts up for me, but I can't connect. If someone has some time to spare, I'd appreciate help on this one. -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). (Matt Welsh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Closing bugs
Quick question: When two bugs are merged, do I need to close both or will one closing close both, and send a message to both the submittors? -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to it's feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1
*-Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | yagirc24747 yagirc: Binary and Libs for yagirc stored in /bin and /lib [87] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton)) | | Davide isn't maintaining this package anymore. Ole, are you taking | care of this one, too? Already uploaded. Closing bugs as soon as I have minutes to spare (IMO :-). -- A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee to theorems (Paul Erdøs) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ideas for packages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ole J. Tetlie) | | panorama: | www.gnu.org/software/panorama/panorama.html | | I'll try it soon, but from the web-page it looks like it might be | stable enough to put in . It compiled OK and it actually seems useful. It has a long way to go before it can compete with POV-Ray. If no kind soul wants it, I'll give it a good beating after the freeze. -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to it's feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Harmony?
I'm surprised that previews of harmony haven't been packaged yet. Is it really that unuseable? Are an Debian developers working on harmony? PS: I don't know why I have this sudden rush of "We should package"- emotions. Perhaps it's a reaction to the freeze. -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to it's feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ideas for packages
*-Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | > gCAD: | > gaztelan.bi.ehu.es/~inigo/gcad/ | > | > >From what I can tell, this isn't really useful, so I don't know | > whether there is any point in packaging it yet. | | I just took a look at gcad. It compiles and runs. During startup | it doesn't find a lot of files. Possibly the reason is I was staring | through the compile directory without a real installation. At least | this needs some investigation. Same here. It doesn't seem to do anything other than zooming, though. Perhaps we should wait? -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to it's feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ideas for packages
Has anyone looked at panorama and gcad? panorama: www.gnu.org/software/panorama/panorama.html I'll try it soon, but from the web-page it looks like it might be stable enough to put in . gCAD: gaztelan.bi.ehu.es/~inigo/gcad/ >From what I can tell, this isn't really useful, so I don't know whether there is any point in packaging it yet. ¹This will look good when I'm describing my system. Instead of Debian slink I'll just say Debian forever-unstable ;-) -- A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee to theorems (Paul Erdøs) ^^ Now I have the attribution right [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rocks'n'Diamonds up for grabs
*-"J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 10:26:07AM +0200, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: | > The author is very friendly, but he doesn't reply instantaneously to mail. | | Nice understatement :-) Anyway, I seem to remember that the author reacted | favourably to a request to change the license of Rocks'n'Diamonds (and | another game, possibly "mirrormagic") to a DFSG-free one; has this now been | done (or is this expected soon) ? He did, and a license change is expected. However, I wouldn't use the word "soon". :-) -- A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee to theorems (Martin Schulze) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rocks'n'Diamonds up for grabs
I hereby announce that rocks-n-diamonds is available is someone wants to take it over. I'll keep maintaining until someone wants it though. The package currently has around four bugs (I think). The biggest problem is that it allows both writing highscores and new levels, which brings in some security problems. These are not fully resolved yet, but the author has promised to do something about it in the next release. Whomever takes it should probably talk with me to get a complete picture of this. The author is very friendly, but he doesn't reply instantaneously to mail. -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). (Matt Welsh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Edits to Startup Disk Help
*-Marc Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | I posted a patch to the boot-floppies package with changes to the help | screen. Since I didn't get feedback on it I wonder if this is not the | approved method of making changes to other people's packages. I guess most developers prefer a bug being reported, possibly with a patch included. -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to it's feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNotepad
Is anyone packing gnotepad? [ Sorry if anyone tried to a post of mine and bounced. I played with exim.conf and forgot to "unplay" the rewrite. ] -- Eschew obfuscation(go on; look them both up) (Brian White) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libgtk-dev and libgtk1.1-dev
Is there an easy way to have both libgtk-dev and libgtk1.1-dev available? I have trouble with yagirc and libgtk1.1. It compiles but I get a sigsegv when I try to run it. I was hoping that linking with libgtk (stable) would fix it, but I need gtk-1.1 for balsa. -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to it's feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl
*-John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | Perl 5.004 was in Incoming yesterday. You can get it from a | mirror of incoming or wait a day or two and it will be installed. I can only find the orig source package: ftp> ls perl* 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. -rw-r--r-- 1 torinDebian2581713 Oct 8 19:40 perl_5.004.04.orig.tar.gz 226 Transfer complete. -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to it's feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: yagirc bugs - new maintainer or not?
*-Darren Benham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | If you don't get the original volunteer, I'll take it over. I like and use | yagirc so I've got a stake in it being kept up-to-date. I'm here, working on 0.66 as we speak. This might be a good time to ask a question. yagirc can now be built with gnome interface or text interface. Should I make two packages, include both in one package or just drop the non-gui? -- A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee to theorems (Martin Schulze) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X window logo
*-Kenneth Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | Whenever you start a program running under X11, the windows created | usually have the little 'X' logo in the upper left hand corner. If | you are running RedHat linux however, the upper left hand corner of | the windows contains the RedHat logo (head with a red hat). Why can't | it (under Debian) have the blue eyed penguin logo? If I understand you correctly, this is up to each windowmanager. Some wms can't have a penguin in the corner, but I see no harm in changing the default for those that can. It should, however be up to the maintainer of each wm. -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to it's feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perl
I installed perl 5.005, but I understand that it has been revoked and all packages in slink shall be built against perl 5.004, is that so? Now where do I find 004? There's no perl in ftp.debian.org and ftp.de.debian.org has 005. thanks -- Eschew obfuscation(go on; look them both up) (Brian White) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does debian have an official "standard" scripting language ?
*-"Geoffrey L. Brimhall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | Just like debian has an official standard shell - bash, does debian have an | official scripting language ? | | If so, is it perl, python, etc ? | | The reason I'm asking is largely questions of disk space - ie minimizing the | number of scripting languages installed on a system by writing a package which | depends on that scripting language. This has been discussed, but not settled. Some love perl, some love pyhton, some love both and some love none. I don't think there will ever be a "standard" scripting language, but I guess perl is closest at the moment, with perl-base being in the base system and all. -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). (Matt Welsh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Back to RedHat
*-Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Emacs should not be part of the 'basics' (I say this as an emacs user). | | I think we should have a priority between "Standard" and "Optional", | perhaps named "Recommended". These are packages which would be | "Standard", but for size. Tex and a lot of X should also appear here. This has been on my wishlist too. -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). (Matt Welsh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dh_make
*-John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Craig Small wrote: | csmall>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | csmall>> I have recently created a debian/rules file with dh_make, it used "-g" for | csmall>> CXXFLAGS and "-g -O2" for CFLAGS. Is there any reason for not using -O2 for | csmall>> C++ compilation? Also do we really want debugging symbols in all the | csmall>> binaries? | csmall>> | csmall>> The C++ code compiled with -O2 seems to run well, so I don't think there's | csmall>> any compiler error for my setup (latest EGCS) at least... | csmall> | csmall>I don't think we need to include debugging code, I'm not sure where the -g | csmall>comes from in the CXXFLAGS as I thought I didn't set that anywhere. | csmall>scooter$ grep CXX /usr/lib/debhelper/dh_make/*/* | csmall>scooter$ | | Maybe I don't understand what you-all are talking about,... but | doesn't policy require compiling with -g and then stripping ? Last time I | read the policy manual, this was the case. The policy manual recommends using -g, but there is no requirement, It won't show in the binary packages anyway. The reason for the recommendation is purely for the benefit of the maintainer. It will be easier to handle bugs if you have the symbols in some version. -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to it's feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intent to package: csound & cecillia
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) | | Hi! | | I would like to package csound and cecillia. Any comments? What are they? (I can at least guess csound :-) -- Ole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installation instructions for GNOME
Under "Installing GNOME" on the gnome web it says: Debian Systems (need someone to contribute instructions) There are instructions for RH. Need I say more... Is anyone doing this? -- Ole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiny libraries
I have a package that uses two very small libraries, shhmsg and shhopt. I packaged the libs separately from the program that uses them, but it has been suggested that I just incorporate them in the package that uses them (snake4). The libs are generally useful and they are distributed separately from the author, so I still think it's a good idea to have them as packages. Any opinions? -- /\/\/\/\/\/\ Ole J. Tetlie, stud. CS & math, U. of Oslo /\/\/\/\/\/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~olet/ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Cxu vi parlas esperanton? | \/\/\/\/\/\/ Eiffel - Debian GNU/Linux - KDE - Gnome \/\/\/\/\/\/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mirror of Incoming
I seem to remember that there are mirrors of incoming. Could anyone point me to one? master doesn't seem to fancy ftp at the moment and I have an acute need of the new guile packs. -- /\/\/\/\/\/\ Ole J. Tetlie, stud. CS & math, U. of Oslo /\/\/\/\/\/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~olet/ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Cxu vi parlas esperanton? | \/\/\/\/\/\/ Eiffel - Debian GNU/Linux - KDE - Gnome \/\/\/\/\/\/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
