NNTP gateway to Debian lists

2001-12-25 Thread lintux 
(Please Cc a reply to me since my newsserver won't feed me the reply,
probably..)

Hello,

I don't like mailing lists at all so I'm looking for a way to read the
debian lists using Slrn. Leafnode does not support mailing lists, so I'm
forced to use an Internet NNTP server for this. My provider does not feed
linux.debian.* so I can't use that server. I searched on GoogleGroups and
the Debian lists archive but could not find any useful server either. Only
sunsite.dk, which sucks. I miss a /LOT/ of articles.

Is there any better server?


Greetings,

Wilmer v/d Gaast.

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Re: NNTP gateway to Debian lists

2001-12-25 Thread John Hasler 
Wilmer writes:
> I don't like mailing lists at all so I'm looking for a way to read the
> debian lists using Slrn. Leafnode does not support mailing lists...

Then either use Gnus which lets you treat mailing lists just like
newsgroups or install a local mail->news gateway using something like
mailagent.
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Re: NNTP gateway to Debian lists

2001-12-25 Thread Rick Younie 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I don't like mailing lists at all so I'm looking for a way to read the
> debian lists using Slrn. Leafnode does not support mailing lists, so I'm
> forced to use an Internet NNTP server for this. My provider does not feed
> linux.debian.* so I can't use that server. I searched on GoogleGroups and
> the Debian lists archive but could not find any useful server either. Only
> sunsite.dk, which sucks. I miss a /LOT/ of articles.

Last I heard the usenet group is unidirectional mail -> news
and was a little flakey at that.  Making it bidirectional would
invite all the noise/spam problems that you get with usenet.

You can read the groups on lists.debian.org with a browser.  Or
mutt threads mail well.  Or if you're running your own news
server (cnews is simple to set up) you can use one of the
mail-to-news programs and take advantage of the news system's
expire and newsreader's threading. "apt-cache search news mail
gateway" shows some of those if you're running unstable (for
the multiword search).  apt backports to stable cleanly if
you're running stable.

HTH,
Rick
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Re: NNTP gateway to Debian lists

2001-12-25 Thread Marco d'Itri 
On Dec 25, Rick Younie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 >Last I heard the usenet group is unidirectional mail -> news
 >and was a little flakey at that.
I seen no problem in the gating process. Please explain what's wrong.
And yes, messages of morons who mail long base 64 encoded files to
mailing lists cannot be gated.

 > Making it bidirectional would
 >invite all the noise/spam problems that you get with usenet.
I just need to find the time to make the groups moderated and the
news->mail gateway available to registered addresses.

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Re: NNTP gateway to Debian lists

2001-12-25 Thread Ganesan R 
> "lintux" == lintux  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> (Please Cc a reply to me since my newsserver won't feed me the reply,
> probably..)

> Hello,

> I don't like mailing lists at all so I'm looking for a way to read the
> debian lists using Slrn. Leafnode does not support mailing lists, so I'm
> forced to use an Internet NNTP server for this. My provider does not feed
> linux.debian.* so I can't use that server. I searched on GoogleGroups and
> the Debian lists archive but could not find any useful server either. Only
> sunsite.dk, which sucks. I miss a /LOT/ of articles.

> Is there any better server?

Leafnode is an excellent program, but, like you say it doesn't support
mailing lists. Try the wonderful program called sn instead which has been
already packaged for debian.

Ganesan

P.S: This is posted using a bi-directional mail<->news gateway setup using sn.

Re: NNTP gateway to Debian lists

2001-12-25 Thread Rick Younie 
Marco d'Itri wrote:
> 
> >Last I heard the usenet group is unidirectional mail -> news
> >and was a little flakey at that.
> I seen no problem in the gating process. Please explain what's wrong.

Yeah, cheap shot.  It's been a long while since I've looked at this.

> And yes, messages of morons who mail long base 64 encoded files to
> mailing lists cannot be gated.

I wonder what the sentiment is among developers for using some
Debian dollars to hire a hit-man.  I think if a couple spammers
were popped, word would get around.  This may be a little extreme
though and some kind of technical solution might be better.

Rick
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