Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux
FWIW, I think having McAfee .debs, even in non-free, would be a win. However, another thought occurred to me. Stephen, could you ask them to clarify the licensing of their DAT files? If they are indeed free, as URL:http://www.nai.com/download/updates/whatdat.asp seems to imply, someone oughta look at writing a little bit of C code to read those files and write a GNU antivirus product using that. Possible? .A. P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]URL:http://www.onShore.com/
Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Chris wrote: Since when did linux get virus's You'd only get them on a really bad system - which debian is not (or if you did EVERYTHING as root). On a linux system exporting disk space to Windows machines, it is indeed practical to have an anti-virus able to report if your shares contains virii. Just out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a mcafee virusscan installer package in slink contrib? I have everything created, the only thing I'd have to work on would be upstream upgrades (it currently doesn't handle this at all) and then I'd write an intent to package and upload it. I could probably squeeze it in before the freeze. Thing is, Network Associates Inc. is axing the Mcafee engine in favor of Dr Solomon soon. However, it *is* the world's first self-replicating debian package :) (build-uvscan makes full debs of the engine and datfiles, the engine deb includes build-uvscan :) -- Robert Woodcock - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix and C are the ultimate computer viruses -- Richard Gabriel
Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 04:48:26AM -, Robert Woodcock wrote: Just out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a mcafee virusscan installer package in slink contrib? I have everything created, the only thing I'd have to work on would be upstream upgrades (it currently doesn't handle this at all) and then I'd write an intent to package and upload it. I looked at this yesterday. It appears to be an a.out executable. I don't have a.out/libc4 anymore, and I suspect I'm not alone. Are you aware of a newer version? It would be nice to have a virus scanner on my Linux machine, since I receive a lot of Windoze e-mail attachments and have several Samba shares. Regards, Jeff -- It's time to close windows and open source. Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds.
Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:33:49AM -0500, Jeff Noxon wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 04:48:26AM -, Robert Woodcock wrote: Just out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a mcafee virusscan installer package in slink contrib? I have everything created, the only thing I'd have to work on would be upstream upgrades (it currently doesn't handle this at all) and then I'd write an intent to package and upload it. I looked at this yesterday. It appears to be an a.out executable. I don't have a.out/libc4 anymore, and I suspect I'm not alone. Are you aware of a newer version? It would be nice to have a virus scanner on my Linux machine, since I receive a lot of Windoze e-mail attachments and have several Samba shares. mercury:~$ ldd /usr/lib/neta/uvscan libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4000c000) That's what's in ftp://ftp.nai.com/pub/antivirus/unix/linux/nlxb318e.tar. -- Robert Woodcock - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix and C are the ultimate computer viruses -- Richard Gabriel
Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:33:49AM -0500, Jeff Noxon wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 04:48:26AM -, Robert Woodcock wrote: Just out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a mcafee virusscan installer package in slink contrib? I have everything created, the only thing I'd have to work on would be upstream upgrades (it currently doesn't handle this at all) and then I'd write an intent to package and upload it. I looked at this yesterday. It appears to be an a.out executable. I don't have a.out/libc4 anymore, and I suspect I'm not alone. Are you aware of a newer version? It would be nice to have a virus scanner on my Linux machine, since I receive a lot of Windoze e-mail attachments and have several Samba shares. I havn't downloaded it yet to look. I did exchange e-mail with a contact at the company...they pointed me to a web page... unfortunatly the english version wasn't done and I don't Speak German just this morning I got another e-mail...told to check the FTP Site and given an FTP URL... I will check it out when I get home. If it is a.out then I think I may e-mail them and let them know that practically noone in the linux world uses it anymore (well ok... I did make an a.out kernel recently...but I have an excuse..I was booting a Sun Sparcstation through the network) maybe ill offer them a Hamm CD ;) -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 08:01:05AM -0700, Robert Woodcock wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:33:49AM -0500, Jeff Noxon wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 04:48:26AM -, Robert Woodcock wrote: Just out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a mcafee virusscan installer package in slink contrib? I have everything created, the only thing I'd have to work on would be upstream upgrades (it currently doesn't handle this at all) and then I'd write an intent to package and upload it. I looked at this yesterday. It appears to be an a.out executable. I don't have a.out/libc4 anymore, and I suspect I'm not alone. Are you aware of a newer version? It would be nice to have a virus scanner on my Linux machine, since I receive a lot of Windoze e-mail attachments and have several Samba shares. mercury:~$ ldd /usr/lib/neta/uvscan libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4000c000) That's what's in ftp://ftp.nai.com/pub/antivirus/unix/linux/nlxb318e.tar. Thats a differnt virus scanner than what we were talking about and what I will be packaging (if it turns out I am able...still need to get my hands on it and evauate it) -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux
On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Birgitt Simon wrote: We offer you a free version from AntiVir for Linux, so that you will deliver our program with your next distribution CD-ROM. When we (Debian) speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. To be included in our CD-ROM, every program must meet a set of conditions, please see our Free Software Guidelines: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines Thanks. -- 1ece6d42b31c11e4f54ab8fc60c79638 (a truly random sig)
Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 10:36:24AM +0100, Birgitt Simon wrote: Dear Sirs, we know you as a distributor of program packages for Linux. We, the H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH, are developer and distributor of the virus protection program AntiVir for Linux. Since 1988, when the number of computer viruses in Germany could be counted on one hand, we deal with the subject virus protection. In the last 11 years we won a lot of awards for our anti-virus products in Germany. Our main market is currently Germany and the german speaking market. Now we are going to expand our distribution area. snip Since when did linux get virus's You'd only get them on a really bad system - which debian is not (or if you did EVERYTHING as root). Weird Chris -- -- REALITY.SYS corrupted: Reboot universe? (Y/N/Q) Debian GNU/Linux -- Reply with subject 'request key' for PGP public key. KeyID 0xA9E087D5
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Before I say anything let me state that I am, currently, not even a registered Debian developer, just a user, however.. I'd suggest that you take a look at the debian web page (www.debian.org), specificly the Social Contract (http://www.debian.org/social_contract), including the DFSG (Debian Free Software Guidelines)... The specific licensing on your software will have to be reviewed to decide if we can include said software in Debian, and if we can what section it will go in.. Well I am sure we would like to include your software in main I suspect, from your message, that due to the license, if we are able to include it at all, it will have to be in non-free.. Thank you for your interest.. Zephaniah E, Hull... On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 10:36:24AM +0100, Birgitt Simon wrote: Dear Sirs, we know you as a distributor of program packages for Linux. We, the H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH, are developer and distributor of the virus protection program AntiVir for Linux. Since 1988, when the number of computer viruses in Germany could be counted on one hand, we deal with the subject virus protection. In the last 11 years we won a lot of awards for our anti-virus products in Germany. Our main market is currently Germany and the german speaking market. Now we are going to expand our distribution area. We would like to make you following suggestion, for our both advantage. We offer you a free version from AntiVir for Linux, so that you will deliver our program with your next distribution CD-ROM. So your customers are able to use a virus protection program under Linux and you add value to your program package. If you want to try AntiVir for Linux, please feel free to download the newest version of AntiVir for Linux from our Internet-Server www.hbedv.com. We offer AntiVir for Linux free of charge for private use. For commercial use, our customers are asked to purchase AntiVir for Linux. We hope our offer meets with your approval and will be pleased to answer any queries you may have. Yours sincerely H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH Lindauer Strasse 21, D-88069 Tettnang Birgitt Simon Tel.: +49 (0) 7542-93040 Fax.: +49 (0) 7542-52510 BBS.: +49 (0) 7542-52110 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.antivir.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpOKiWtOqZA7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux
On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Chris wrote: Since when did linux get virus's A linux antivirus is a linux program which detects virus in your DOS partition. (At least this is what I understood from the post). -- 59c014d91ae9e30e1552dd2a66f4f4a5 (a truly random sig)
Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux
On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Chris wrote:
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 10:36:24AM +0100, Birgitt Simon wrote:
Dear Sirs,
we know you as a distributor of program packages for Linux. We, the H+BEDV
Datentechnik GmbH, are developer and distributor of the virus protection
program AntiVir for Linux. Since 1988, when the number of computer viruses
in Germany could be counted on one hand, we deal with the subject virus
protection. In the last 11 years we won a lot of awards for our anti-virus
products in Germany. Our main market is currently Germany and the german
speaking market. Now we are going to expand our distribution area.
snip
Since when did linux get virus's You'd only get them on a really
bad system - which debian is not (or if you did EVERYTHING as root).
On a linux system exporting disk space to Windows machines, it is indeed
practical to have an anti-virus able to report if your shares contains
virii.
Cordialement,
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Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 10:36:24AM +0100, Birgitt Simon wrote: Dear Sirs, we know you as a distributor of program packages for Linux. We, the H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH, are developer and distributor of the virus protection program AntiVir for Linux. Since 1988, when the number of computer viruses in Germany could be counted on one hand, we deal with the subject virus protection. In the last 11 years we won a lot of awards for our anti-virus products in Germany. Our main market is currently Germany and the german speaking market. Now we are going to expand our distribution area. We would like to make you following suggestion, for our both advantage. We offer you a free version from AntiVir for Linux, so that you will deliver our program with your next distribution CD-ROM. So your customers are able to use a virus protection program under Linux and you add value to your program package. I'm sure someone would be happy to package it in .deb format, but by the sounds of your message neither source is included and only non-commercial use is permitted. Either one of these would cause Debian to place your product in its non-free section as it fails the Debian Free Software Guidelines (http://www.debian.org/social_contract). The package would be on the FTP mirrors and people could download and even distribute on CD-ROM that package, but the non-free section would never be distributed by Debian. Many vendors do though, so it's probably not a major worry. pgp2wqc3sxjEO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: suggestion - AntiVir for Linux
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 06:00:00AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 10:36:24AM +0100, Birgitt Simon wrote: Dear Sirs, we know you as a distributor of program packages for Linux. We, the H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH, are developer and distributor of the virus protection program AntiVir for Linux. Since 1988, when the number of computer viruses in Germany could be counted on one hand, we deal with the subject virus protection. In the last 11 years we won a lot of awards for our anti-virus products in Germany. Our main market is currently Germany and the german speaking market. Now we are going to expand our distribution area. We would like to make you following suggestion, for our both advantage. We offer you a free version from AntiVir for Linux, so that you will deliver our program with your next distribution CD-ROM. So your customers are able to use a virus protection program under Linux and you add value to your program package. I'm sure someone would be happy to package it in .deb format, but by the sounds of your message neither source is included and only non-commercial use is permitted. Either one of these would cause Debian to place your product in its non-free section as it fails the Debian Free Software Guidelines (http://www.debian.org/social_contract). The package would be on the FTP mirrors and people could download and even distribute on CD-ROM that package, but the non-free section would never be distributed by Debian. Many vendors do though, so it's probably not a major worry. I didn't catch the begining of this thead but... if noone else has stepped up I would be happy to work on this. (from the first statement of I'm sure someone would be happy to package it in .deb format it sounds like noone has yet) I can't make out from the snippit of the original message if this would be distributable via FTP site like this or not...seems like it... but if not I would be happy to package it in deb format so that it could be distributed by others that way. -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
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On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 09:55:19AM -0400, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote: I'm sure someone would be happy to package it in .deb format, but by the sounds of your message neither source is included and only non-commercial use is permitted. Either one of these would cause Debian to place your product in its non-free section as it fails the Debian Free Software Guidelines (http://www.debian.org/social_contract). The package would be on the FTP mirrors and people could download and even distribute on CD-ROM that package, but the non-free section would never be distributed by Debian. Many vendors do though, so it's probably not a major worry. I didn't catch the begining of this thead but... if noone else has stepped up I would be happy to work on this. (from the first statement of I'm sure someone would be happy to package it in .deb format it sounds like noone has yet) Nope, but if you want to go ahead and contact them for info. I'm not terribly interested in packaging something that'd have to go into non-free if it wasn't something I'd really use everyday. Since I have no windoze boxen on this LAN (or even really a LAN at this time) there's no need for me to run antivirus software. I can't make out from the snippit of the original message if this would be distributable via FTP site like this or not...seems like it... but if not I would be happy to package it in deb format so that it could be distributed by others that way. Permission for Debian redistribution is fine for a non-free package, but in order to be in main (and on ALL Debian CDs) it would have to be essentially free to all with source code.. Of course one can make a professional version that is non-free and you can suggest commercial businesses use that, maybe it'd have some kind of network support or something. But the version Debian would be able to distribute in main would have to be free, with source, allowed to be distributed further than Debian, and no requirements as to who can or cannot use it. Otherwise it's not Free Software and is just software you don't have to pay for.. pgpMCX33lUql1.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 11:18:25AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 09:55:19AM -0400, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote: I'm sure someone would be happy to package it in .deb format, but by the sounds of your message neither source is included and only non-commercial use is permitted. Either one of these would cause Debian to place your product in its non-free section as it fails the Debian Free Software Guidelines (http://www.debian.org/social_contract). The package would be on the FTP mirrors and people could download and even distribute on CD-ROM that package, but the non-free section would never be distributed by Debian. Many vendors do though, so it's probably not a major worry. I didn't catch the begining of this thead but... if noone else has stepped up I would be happy to work on this. (from the first statement of I'm sure someone would be happy to package it in .deb format it sounds like noone has yet) Nope, but if you want to go ahead and contact them for info. I'm not terribly interested in packaging something that'd have to go into non-free if it wasn't something I'd really use everyday. Since I have no windoze boxen on this LAN (or even really a LAN at this time) there's no need for me to run antivirus software. ahh well... I don't actually have any windows machines myself (well I do at work) but...I wouldn't plan on testing it like that anyway (I ONCE downloaded a live virus to test a scanner...long story) I figure such a product is good for buisnesses like where I work... we have a good sized network and ocasionally get ravaged by some new virus. I can't make out from the snippit of the original message if this would be distributable via FTP site like this or not...seems like it... but if not I would be happy to package it in deb format so that it could be distributed by others that way. Permission for Debian redistribution is fine for a non-free package, but in order to be in main (and on ALL Debian CDs) it would have to be essentially free to all with source code.. Of course one can make a professional version that is non-free and you can suggest commercial businesses use that, maybe it'd have some kind of network support or something. But the version Debian would be able to distribute in main would have to be free, with source, allowed to be distributed further than Debian, and no requirements as to who can or cannot use it. Otherwise it's not Free Software and is just software you don't have to pay for.. Yes I know ;) Of course..it COULD be free software and have the virus definitions be non-free ;) then it could go in contrib (unless somone develops free virus defs) As for contacting them...I believe I did? My message saying I would do it was sent to ALL..which I believe includes someone from their company. If I don't hear anything within a few days ill contact them seprately um...any idea on what a good contact adress is for them? as I said.. I didn't catch the start of this thread -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ E-mail Bumper Stickers: A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both! honk if you Love Linux
