Re: Why am I receiving still mails from this list?

2002-08-20 Thread Joe Drew
On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 11:34, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 05:18:52PM +0200, Arvid Warnecke wrote:
  I try to unsubscribe from this list for about a week now. I just got the
  message that I am no member of the list anymore, but still get the
  mails. I tried to unsubscribe again, but I got the message, that this is
  not possible because I am no member.
  Why do I still get the mails?
 
 Read the instructions at the bottom of each message that you receive from this
 list.

Which he obviously did, given that he stated that he unsubscribed once,
apparently successfully, still received mails, and then tried again, and
the list said he wasn't subscribed.

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Re: Why am I receiving still mails from this list?

2002-08-20 Thread Peter Makholm
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Which he obviously did, given that he stated that he unsubscribed once,
 apparently successfully, still received mails, and then tried again, and
 the list said he wasn't subscribed.

And did he then contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] when he had trouble?

I guess it is that line Matt was refering to.

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Re: Why am I receiving still mails from this list?

2002-08-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 12:34:36AM -0400, Joe Drew wrote:
 On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 11:34, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
  Read the instructions at the bottom of each message that you receive
  from this list.
 
 Which he obviously did, given that he stated that he unsubscribed once,
 apparently successfully, still received mails, and then tried again, and
 the list said he wasn't subscribed.
 [...]
 -- 
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Which you obviously did not, or you would have noticed the part that I was
referring to.  Notably, what to do if you have trouble (don't mail the
entire list about it).

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 - mdz




Why am I receiving still mails from this list?

2002-08-19 Thread Arvid Warnecke
Hello,

I try to unsubscribe from this list for about a week now. I just got the
message that I am no member of the list anymore, but still get the
mails. I tried to unsubscribe again, but I got the message, that this is
not possible because I am no member.
Why do I still get the mails?

Cheers,
Arvid

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Re: Why am I receiving still mails from this list?

2002-08-19 Thread Erich Schubert
 I try to unsubscribe from this list for about a week now. I just got the
 message that I am no member of the list anymore, but still get the
 mails. I tried to unsubscribe again, but I got the message, that this is
 not possible because I am no member.
 Why do I still get the mails?

We are not magicians, quote some headers so we can find out...
Probably you subscribed with a different address than the one you
unsubscribed?

Greetings,
Erich

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Re: Why am I receiving still mails from this list?

2002-08-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 05:18:52PM +0200, Arvid Warnecke wrote:

 I try to unsubscribe from this list for about a week now. I just got the
 message that I am no member of the list anymore, but still get the
 mails. I tried to unsubscribe again, but I got the message, that this is
 not possible because I am no member.
 Why do I still get the mails?

Read the instructions at the bottom of each message that you receive from this
list.

-- 
 - mdz




Re: Why am I receiving still mails from this list?

2002-08-19 Thread Arvid Warnecke
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 05:27:12PM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote:
  I try to unsubscribe from this list for about a week now. I just got the
  message that I am no member of the list anymore, but still get the
  mails. I tried to unsubscribe again, but I got the message, that this is
  not possible because I am no member.
  Why do I still get the mails?
 We are not magicians, quote some headers so we can find out...
 Probably you subscribed with a different address than the one you
 unsubscribed?
 
Okay then, here is the header of your mail which came through the list.
And I unsubscribed with this address.
The header:

Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by hasseroeder.heim2.tu-clausthal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id
279065BEE8 
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:31:05 +0200 (CEST) 
  
Received: from mail.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.34]   
by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.11)   
for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:31:05
+0200  
+(CEST) 
Received: from sphinx.rz.tu-clausthal.de
(sphinx.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.44])  
by sinfonix.rz.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP 
id RAA12201 for [EMAIL PROTECTED];   
Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:28:31 +0200 (MET DST)   
Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com   
+[194.25.134.80])   
by sphinx.rz.tu-clausthal.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id  
+g7JFSrNY086731 
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:28:53
+0200   
+(CEST) 
(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de
by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp 
id 17goSC-00029v-01; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:28:28 +0200
Received: from bombadil.xmldesign.de ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
by 
+fmrl04.sul.t-online.com
with esmtp id 17goRy-07G93oC; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:28:14 +0200   
Received: by bombadil.xmldesign.de (Postfix, from userid 1000)  
id 7E7B0932D7; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:27:12 +0200 (CEST)   
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:27:12 +0200   
From: Erich Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
To: Arvid Warnecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org   
Subject: Re: Why am I receiving still mails from this list? 
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Mail-Followup-To: Erich Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED],   
 
Arvid Warnecke [EMAIL PROTECTED],
debian-devel@lists.debian.org   
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Mime-Version: 1.0   
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Disposition: inline 
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i   
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X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy   
X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) 
X-UIDL: lE8!!lQm!\V!!_4#!
X-Spamblock-maybe: not for ($MYDOMAIN)  
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X-Spamblock: ignored by rule reply 

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Re: Why am I receiving still mails from this list?

2002-08-19 Thread Federico Sevilla III
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 05:37:07PM +0200, Arvid Warnecke wrote:
 Okay then, here is the header of your mail which came through the list.
 And I unsubscribed with this address.

I don't think the headers you're quoting are of the email from Erich
Schubert that came through the list, but the one that got to you
directly.

 The header:
...
 Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de  
   
 by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp   
   
 id 17goSC-00029v-01; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:28:28 +0200  
   
 Received: from bombadil.xmldesign.de ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by 
 +fmrl04.sul.t-online.com
 with esmtp id 17goRy-07G93oC; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:28:14 +0200
 Received: by bombadil.xmldesign.de (Postfix, from userid 1000)
 id 7E7B0932D7; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:27:12 +0200 (CEST)
 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:27:12 +0200
...

This came from Erich's system and went straight to yours. This didn't
pass through the Debian list servers.

I'm not cc'ing you this message. If it gets to you examine the headers
and find to which address the Debian list servers sent it to and
unsubscribe that.

You should probably be looking for a received line from murphy like so:

   Received: from murphy.debian.org (murphy.debian.org [65.125.64.134])
by gusi.leathercollection.ph (Postfix) with SMTP id 8092DC0482F
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 23:39:05 +0800 (PHT)

Cheers.

 -- Jijo

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Re: Why am I receiving still mails from this list?

2002-08-19 Thread Erich Schubert
 Received: from sphinx.rz.tu-clausthal.de
 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com
 Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de
 Received: from bombadil.xmldesign.de ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

that obviously is the copy of the mail i sent to you directly.
it never used a debian server. me, t-online, tu-clausthal.

Greetings,
Erich

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Those who understand binary and those who don't
Die kürzeste Verbindung zwischen zwei Menschen ist ein Lächeln.
Der Wissende weiß, dass er glauben muß.