Scalability of Hardware linux and databasea

2004-11-29 Thread Bob Baker
Folks,

I handle tech for small ISP that has < 5000 users.
We are about to do a big marketing push for new users (all those
getting PCs over holidays).

Users will get email and hard disk space. 1GB limit
Wondering if any of you have any metrics on what gets typically used.
Up to now we have never offered more than 10MB and even that never
gets approached (< 1MB on average).

With this bigger limit my boss thinks we might get lots of picture
uploads etc.

With that in mind I'm wondering how much to scale for if we bring in
an extra 1 accounts.  Est   ?? per user for email. Est ?? for use
per file space.
Any of you been storing pictures from people? Do they do it much? How
much do they store?

Our 2GHz 2GBram linux box has beenhandleing this fine up to now. 

But now I have a budget to upgrade I wondering where I should spend it
(other than storage disks). Any rules of thumb. 2Ghz box handles 5000
light users.

But extra 10K users that are more active or store more may need more
resources in terms of CPU/Memory too. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance. The info I read here is always a big help to me in
doing my job!

Bob!


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Re: [HELP] courier-authdaemon frustration

2004-11-23 Thread Bob Billson
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 10:10:19PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote:
> > The authmysqlrc for courier is a real pain.. it took me about 10 try's to
> > get it right. When I started over for the last time, I took the following
> > in account;
> 
> It isn't. It *is* commented ok, and the easiest thing to do is to put in
> a customized MySQL query to suit your needs.

I agree authmysqlrc is mostly commented well. Although, it is somewhat
silent on where (or not) single/double quotes are needed. Unfortunately,
my experience, thusfar, even following the comments is no guarantee of
success. This seems to be the sticking point with all Courier's config
files. The config file parser is very pedantic, which is fine to a point.
The error message "imaplogin: authdaemon: TEMPFAIL - no more modules will
be tried" is terribly unhelpful. Kind of like many Windows' error messages.
You know something is wrong, but where? :-/

The customized query maybe the way to go; although it seems to be a bad
hack to solve the underlaying problem, no? I am missing something?

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Re: [HELP] courier-authdaemon frustration

2004-11-23 Thread Bob Billson
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 09:44:54PM +0100, Mark Lijftogt wrote:
> Well.. looking back at my reply it was a bit short, rude and not realy
> helpfull (and that can be seen as an understatement). Sorry for that.

Hi Mark... No prob. No offensive taken. :-)

> The authmysqlrc for courier is a real pain.. it took me about 10 try's to
> get it right. When I started over for the last time, I took the following
> in account;

I have noticed the same thing. Looking on Google, it appears we aren't
alone. Even Courier's web site mentions authdaemon it is hit and miss with
some people. :-/ That's not right. I'm at more than 10 attempts myself.
If the debug info was more verbose, I could figure it out. I am seriously
considering filing a wish-list bug report against the Debian package when
I finally get this working. Things shouldn't be this difficult to configure.

> I checked the mysql account information (could it be a simple username and
> password error),

Done. It looks correct. The same username and password work correctly when
postfix+mysql delivers to the virtual mailbox. I have tried other virtual
mailboxes on the server besides the dummy 'foobar' one. Same result and in
every case postfix+mysql delivers the mail but imap login fails. I'm almost
to the point of hacking the source to see what's going on. But I shouldn't
have to. :-/

> made sure there were no (trailing) spaces in the authmysqlrc

Done. re-done and done again.

> (only tabs),

done and re-done. Tried only spaces, too, but that no difference.

> usage of only single quotes (around  the GID_FIELD, UID_FIELD
> and HOME_FIELD)

Ahhh, okay partially done. Only around HOME_FIELD but not the other
two. Will change that.

> and that the GID_FIELD and UID_FIELD are the uid and gid of
> postfix.. and NOT mysql.

Okay, I'm a little confused here. According to Christoph Haas's tutorial
on workaround.org, he set up separate user:group for the virtual
mailboxes: vmail:vmail. In my current re-attempt, I followed Christoph's
instructions to the letter thinking previously I was doing something
wrong. The UID:GID for vmail is 5000:5000. These are what I used in
authmysqlrc GID_FIELD and UID_FIELD (but without single quotes).

On my server, postfix is UID:GID 101:103 and mysql is 103:105.
Are you suggesting that despite Christoph's instructions I should be
using 101 and 103 for UID_FIELD and GID_FIELD, respectively?

> That was apparently enough to get that part running.

Well, if I can get passed this problem of logging into the Courier's
imap-ssl server, I think I will be in good shape!

Thanks for the advice!

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Re: [HELP] courier-authdaemon frustration

2004-11-22 Thread Bob Billson
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 07:54:42AM +0100, Mark Lijftogt wrote:
> Could this be a bit more logical ? I'm missing session information
> for your courier authdaemon. 

Hi Mark!

Thanks for answering. I intentionally X'd it out. I'd rather not post
passwords to an open list. My firewall blocks outside attempts to access
the mysql server, so posting this information is not very useful, is it?

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[HELP] courier-authdaemon frustration

2004-11-21 Thread Bob Billson
Hi all! Helppp!!

I am having a frustrating time and can use some help! Using Christoph
Haas's tutorial (http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/) I am
trying to set up a server with virtual mailboxes using postfix, mysql
and courier-imap-ssl. The machine is an up-to-date Debian testing box.

I have the postfix/mysql part working great. Mail is delivered to the
virtual mailboxes. Getting courier-imap-ssl working is proving extremely
frustrating. The culprit seems to be courier-authdaemon, which annoyingly,
doesn't provide much useful debug info in the logs. :-/

Googling turns up quite a few references to courier-authdaemon's
"TEMPFAIL" errors but no real solutions. Mention is made to be sure there
are no trailing spaces in /etc/courier/ config files.  Some say spaces can
be used to separate the values in each line. Others say only use tabs.
I have tried both ways--no difference. I have gone over the config files
carefully.

>From a remote machine I tried:
telnet -z ssl theshed.dhs.org 993 (which connects & gets a response from IMAP)
. login foobar foobarsecret   (dummy test account I created)
. NO login failed.(server's response)
Connection closed by foreign host.

On the server side I get:
in /var/log/debug ...

Nov 21 15:43:02 pigpen imapd-ssl: LOGIN: DEBUG: ip=[:::x.x.x.x], 
command=LOGIN
Nov 21 15:43:02 pigpen imapd-ssl: LOGIN: DEBUG: ip=[:::x.x.x.x], [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
Nov 21 15:43:02 pigpen imapd-ssl: LOGIN: DEBUG: ip=[:::x.x.x.x], 
password=foobarsecret
Nov 21 15:43:02 pigpen imapd-ssl: authdaemon: starting client module
Nov 21 15:43:02 pigpen imapd-ssl: authdaemon: TEMPFAIL - no more modules will 
be tried
Nov 21 15:43:07 pigpgen imapd-ssl: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[:::x.x.x.x]

In /var/log/mysql/mysql.log ...
041121 19:22:18 136 Connect [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 
136 Init DB provider
136 Query   SELECT email, "", , 5000, 5000, 
'/home/vmail', concat(email,'/'), "", "", "" FROM users WHERE email = "[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]"
136 Quit   
137 Connect [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 
137 Init DB provider
137 Query   SELECT email, "", , 5000, 5000, 
'/home/vmail', concat(email,'/'), "", "", "" FROM users WHERE email = "[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]"
137 Quit   

NOTE: The "" before 'FROM users' seems wrong. But don't know where it
comes from, i.e. there are no extra quotes in the config files.

I'll append the config files below. I'd appreciate any help getting 
Courier authdaemon going. From Google searches, etc. I have learned lots
of folks seem to have problems with authdaemon--and many don't. Seems to
be very black magic stuff, which is very annoying when you don't have the
spells. I like Courier but this becoming a real bear to configure.
At this point, I would gladly switch if there were a better IMAP-SSL server
UW's is to slow. I'm open to suggestions.

Help? Clues would be most welcome!! I'm running out of hair to pull. :-)

Thanks for the help...  bob

And the config files set up as recommended in Christoph's tutorial...

/etc/courier/authmysqlrc:
MYSQL_SERVER127.0.0.1
MYSQL_USERNAME  XXX
MYSQL_PASSWORD  
MYSQL_SOCKET/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
#MYSQL_PORT 3306
MYSQL_PORT  0
MYSQL_OPT   0
MYSQL_DATABASE  provider
MYSQL_USER_TABLEusers
MYSQL_CLEAR_PWFIELD 
DEFAULT_DOMAIN  theshed.dhs.org
MYSQL_UID_FIELD 5000
MYSQL_GID_FIELD 5000
MYSQL_LOGIN_FIELD   email
MYSQL_HOME_FIELD"/home/vmail"
MYSQL_MAILDIR_FIELD concat(email,'/')
#


/etc/courier/authdaemonrc:
authmodulelist="authmysql"
authmodulelistorig="authcustom authcram authuserdb authldap authmysql authpam"
daemons=5
version=""
authdaemonvar=/var/run/courier/authdaemon


/etc/courier/imapd
ADDRESS=0
PORT=143
MAXDAEMONS=40
MAXPERIP=20
PIDFILE=/var/run/courier/imapd.pid
TCPDOPTS="-nodnslookup -noidentlookup"
AUTHMODULES="authdaemon"
AUTHMODULES_ORIG="authdaemon"
#DEBUG_LOGIN=0
DEBUG_LOGIN=2
IMAP_CAPABILITY="IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT 
THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA AUTH=CRAM-MD5 AUTH=CRAM-SHA1 IDLE"
#
IMAP_KEYWORDS=1
IMAP_IDLE_TIMEOUT=60
IMAP_CAPABILITY_TLS="$IMAP_CAPABILITY AUTH=PLAIN"
IMAP_DISABLETHREADSORT=0
IMAP_CHECK_ALL_FOLDERS=0
IMAP_OBSOLETE_CLIENT=0
IMAP_ULIMITD=65536
IMAP_USELOCKS=1
IMAP_SHAREDINDEXFILE=/etc/courier/shared/index
IMAP_ENHANCEDIDLE=0
IMAP_TRASHFOLDERNAME=Trash
IMAP_EMPTYTRASH=Trash:7
IMAP_MOVE_EXPUNGE_TO_TRASH=0
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
HEADERFROM=X-IMAP-Sender
IMAPDSTART=YES
MAI

Re: Routingtable vulnerability

2003-06-04 Thread Bob Billson
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 04:38:42AM -0700, peace bwitchu penned:
> I'm not saying your wrong but I don't see that in the
> changelog for 2.4.21-rc6. 

Sorry.  You are correct.  I meant -rc4.  The original RH ioperm fix in
-rc3 was the one which wasn't quite right.

> The ip conntrack routing table hash exploit had been fixed in 2.4.21-rc2.

doh!  You are correct again.  I need to be more careful in reading the
chaneglogs.  All the release candidates from -rc4 to -rc6 had other
minor little "gotchas" which would make me cautious about using them on
productions machines.  It's now up to -rc7.  Hopefully, this will be the
last.  I think even Marcelo is tiring of the many release candidates for
2.4.21. :-)

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Re: Routingtable vulnerability

2003-06-03 Thread Bob Billson
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 04:38:42AM -0700, peace bwitchu penned:
> I'm not saying your wrong but I don't see that in the
> changelog for 2.4.21-rc6. 

Sorry.  You are correct.  I meant -rc4.  The original RH ioperm fix in
-rc3 was the one which wasn't quite right.

> The ip conntrack routing table hash exploit had been fixed in 2.4.21-rc2.

doh!  You are correct again.  I need to be more careful in reading the
chaneglogs.  All the release candidates from -rc4 to -rc6 had other
minor little "gotchas" which would make me cautious about using them on
productions machines.  It's now up to -rc7.  Hopefully, this will be the
last.  I think even Marcelo is tiring of the many release candidates for
2.4.21. :-)

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Re: Routingtable vulnerability

2003-06-01 Thread Bob Billson
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 06:22:03PM -0700, peace bwitchu penned:
> The fix has been fixed as 2.4.21-rc4 I believe.  The
> original patch by redhat was in 2.4.21-rc3

But this fix was reported to break something else.  The fixed fix :-)
is in 2.4.21-rc6.

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Re: Routingtable vulnerability

2003-05-31 Thread Bob Billson
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 06:22:03PM -0700, peace bwitchu penned:
> The fix has been fixed as 2.4.21-rc4 I believe.  The
> original patch by redhat was in 2.4.21-rc3

But this fix was reported to break something else.  The fixed fix :-)
is in 2.4.21-rc6.

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Re: Which (simple) Wiki?

2003-05-14 Thread Bob van der Kamp

Hi Dominic,

At the moment I prefer phpwiki (http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/).  Because
of  the PHP/Mysql/Apache combination easy to install and maintain. Very
simpel but powerfull set of "tags".

I used Twiki (http://www.Twiki.org) )for some time and thats just a little
bit over the top for me, and their download policy is a little bit annoying
(is it a real GPL?). You have to request for the program. You cant download
it directly. It has an impressive number of features though.

Take care,

Bob

> Hi,
> I'm looking for a very simple Wiki. It should be easy to install and
> have a very clear design. It's meant for a very limited amount of users
> (less than 10) so I don't need any kind of authtentification.
> Every Wiki I've found is much to overloaded for my needs.
> Any suggestions would be very appreciated.
>
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regards
> Dominik Schulz
>
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nslookup resolution

2002-06-11 Thread Bob Krangle
My Debian server is functioning as a firewall / router
[I did not set it up].

When I run nslookup [hostname], I get an outside my
private LAN ip address.  Which is an error.

We have webadmin setup but I can not find any listing
in my Bind 8 setup for this outside ip address.  Do
you have any ideas?

Is there a way I can flush dns like ipconfig
/flushdns?

Thanks for your help,

Bob K

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nslookup resolution

2002-06-11 Thread Bob Krangle

My Debian server is functioning as a firewall / router
[I did not set it up].

When I run nslookup [hostname], I get an outside my
private LAN ip address.  Which is an error.

We have webadmin setup but I can not find any listing
in my Bind 8 setup for this outside ip address.  Do
you have any ideas?

Is there a way I can flush dns like ipconfig
/flushdns?

Thanks for your help,

Bob K

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Re: Another stupid question

2002-03-18 Thread Bob Billson

On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 09:56:43AM +1100, Seung H. Lee wrote:
> I was searching for the answer to the exactly same question a while
> back, and found the above answer from a google search.

The recipe works very nicely.  Thanks very much for posting it!

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Re: Another stupid question

2002-03-16 Thread Bob Billson

On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yup. I mis-cut-n-pasted. :)

oops. :)

> I found that if you set MAIL=$HOME/Maildir , this works too.

Which brings up another of the scattered bit and pieces Jarno mentioned
(and I just remembered).  You can set this globally in /etc/login.defs.
I have:

MAIL_DIRMaildir

According to the comment in the file, this is used to set up your MAIL
environment variable.

> > If there is a way to get mutt to show size with maildir, I'd like to know
> > what it is! :)
> 
> Since I use procmail for all local delivery, I'll see if I can persuade
> procmail to do something like this.

Please post the recipe if you can.

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Re: Another stupid question

2002-03-16 Thread Bob Billson

On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 10:29:53AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> DEFAULT = $HOME/Maildir
> 
> in either your /etc/procmailrc (for systemwide delivery) or in your
> private .procmailrc for just you.

Almost.  It should be $HOME/Maildir/.  Without the trailing / procmail
assumes an mbox folder.

> If you are using Mutt for a local mailreader, you need to add
> 
> set mbox_type=Maildir

Correct.

> 1190 O   Mar 15 Jones, Susan M  (  19) after work get-together for Bill
> 1191 N F Mar 16 To Tim Sailer   (   0) test mail
> 
> notice that message 1190 hsa 19 lines and 1191 shows 0 lines, although
> it has 10. The 1190 was from the mbox2mdir conversion, the new ones all
> show up as 0 lines

Same here.  I haven't figured out either.  I *think* it might have
something to do with the way mutt opens the mailbox.  With mbox style,
it only has to open the one file and count lines.  With maildir, it has
to open each file and *then* count lines.  With a big mailbox, this can
take a while.  My guess is the conversion script added a header with a
line count, which mutt looks for.

If there is a way to get mutt to show size with maildir, I'd like to know
what it is! :)

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Re: Comprehensive maildir-howto?

2002-03-16 Thread Bob Billson

On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 12:47:33PM +0200, Jarno Elonen wrote:
> Is there any comprehensive maildir-howto around?

I'm not aware of any. :(  The mail HOWTOs only mention maildir in passing.
But it does sound a good idea for additions.
 
> None of them tell, for example, what to do with 'login', environment
> variables, 'mail', .forward etc.

I never had to set the login environment to anything unique for maildir.
The 'mail/mailx' command doesn't, as far as I know, understand maildir.
All the modern mailers will--I think.  I know mutt does.

.forward is handled by the MTA (exim, sendmail, postfix, qmail and
procmail (yeah, I know it's not a real MTA)), which all support maildir.

For reading mail using imap, you need a server which supports maildir.
Courier Imap is the only I have any experience with.  I'm not sure about
POP servers.

All this is documented.  But you are correct, it is mostly scattered here
and there.  Having it in one place would be a Good Thing®.

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Re: Another stupid question

2002-03-16 Thread Bob Billson

On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 11:09:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> YLL! :)

I hear ya! :)

> I think my problem is in procmail.

Maybe these snippets will help.  First is from exim.conf.  The second is
from my .procmailrc, which works.  The procmail director is inbetween
the system_alias and userforward directors.


##
#  TRANSPORTS CONFIGURATION  #
##
#   ORDER DOES NOT MATTER#
# Only one appropriate transport is called for each delivery.#
##

[snip]

# This transport is used for procmail

procmail_pipe:
  driver = pipe
  command = "/usr/bin/procmail -d ${local_part}"
  return_path_add
  delivery_date_add
  envelope_to_add
  check_string = "From "
  escape_string = ">From "
  user = $local_part
  group = mail

[snip]

##
#  DIRECTORS CONFIGURATION   #
# Specifies how local addresses are handled  #
##
#  ORDER DOES MATTER #
#   A local address is passed to each in turn until it is accepted.  #
##

system_aliases:
[snip]

# This director runs procmail for users who have a .procmailrc file

procmail:
  driver = localuser
  transport = procmail_pipe
  require_files = ${local_part}:+${home}:+${home}/.procmailrc:+/usr/bin/procmail
  no_verify

userforward:
[snip]


This is part of my .procmailrc.  There are two important thing.  Be sure
you are using procmail v3.14 or newer.  Prior versions didn't support
maildir.  And you need a trailing / to indicate a maildir-style folder.
If it is missing, procmail assumes an mbox-style folder.  Each maildir
folder needs a new, cur and tmp subdirs or procmail barfs.

SHELL=/bin/bash
LINEBUF=4096
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
VERBOSE=off
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
# My inbox is $HOME/Maildir.  My sorted folders are in $HOME/Mail
LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmail_log
FORMAIL=/usr/bin/formail
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
# sendmail is a symlink to exim
DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/
# If all the rules fails, the mail gets dumped in here.  Note
# the trailing /
[snip]

# bugtraq - maildir folder
:0
* ^List-Id:.*bugtraq.list-id.securityfocus.com
IN.bugtraq/

# debian-isp list - maildir folder
:0
* ^X-Loop:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IN.debian-isp/

# linux-kernel - mbox folder (no trailing /)
:0
* ^X-Mailing-List:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IN.linux-kernel

[snip]

# Anything making it this far gets dump in the main mailbox.
:0
*
$DEFAULT


This should get you going, Tim.

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Re: Another stupid question

2002-03-15 Thread Bob Billson

On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 07:20:11PM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote:
> OK, I'm number than I thought. I see nothing but a mere mention of
> maildir in one or two spots. Can you give a little more obvious pointer?

hrmm... You're right.  I can't find it either.  It used to be there.
That's where I found out how to do it.

Well, here is a relevant snippet from my exim.conf.  It should help get
you going.  Note I deliver mail on my machine to the directory
/home/$USER/Maildir rather than the *directory* /var/mail/$USER.  Either
way, you *also* need to create three subdirs: new, cur, and tmp, e.g.

mkdir /home/$USER/Maildir/{new,cur,tmp}

Without them, mail won't get delivered.  I found that out the hard way. :)
Hope this helps.  If not, give a yell.

bob


##
#  TRANSPORTS CONFIGURATION  #
##
#   ORDER DOES NOT MATTER#
# Only one appropriate transport is called for each delivery.#
##

[snip]

# This transport is used for handling file addresses generated by alias
# or .forward files if the path ends in "/", which causes it to be treated
# as a directory name rather than a file name. Each message is then delivered
# to a unique file in the directory. If instead you want all such deliveries to
# be in the "maildir" format that is used by some other mail software,
# uncomment the final option below. If this is done, the directory specified
# in the .forward or alias file is the base maildir directory.
#
# Should you want to be able to specify either maildir or non-maildir
# directory-style deliveries, then you must set up yet another transport,
# called address_directory2. This is used if the path ends in "//" so should
# be the one used for maildir, as the double slash suggests another level
# of directory. In the absence of address_directory2, paths ending in //
# are passed to address_directory.

address_directory:
  driver = appendfile
  no_from_hack
  prefix = ""
  suffix = ""
  maildir_format


# This transport is used for procmail

procmail_pipe:
  driver = pipe
  command = "/usr/bin/procmail -d ${local_part}"
  return_path_add
  delivery_date_add
  envelope_to_add
  check_string = "From "
  escape_string = ">From "
  user = $local_part
  group = mail


# Deliver local mail to maildir-type mailbox.
# Comment out 'directory = $home/Maildir' line and uncomment the two
# lines after it to deliver mail to /var/mail.

maildir_delivery:
  driver = appendfile
  no_from_hack
  prefix = ""
  suffix = ""
  maildir_format
  create_directory
  directory = $home/Maildir
# directory = /var/mail/${local_part}
# group = mail

end


##
#  DIRECTORS CONFIGURATION   #
# Specifies how local addresses are handled  #
##
#  ORDER DOES MATTER #
#   A local address is passed to each in turn until it is accepted.  #
##

[snip]


# This director matches local user mailboxes.
# It is the last of the directors

localuser:
  driver = localuser
  transport = maildir_delivery
# transport = local_delivery

end




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Re: Another stupid question

2002-03-14 Thread Bob Billson

On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:42:32PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I want to switch over to maildir in Exim, but, no matter what I try, I
> still get the files in /var/spool/mail . Is there a working example
> somewhere?

Take a look on exim.org.  Look at the FAQ there.  One of the questions 
gives a clear description how to do it.  If you still can't get it, post 
the router, director and transport sections of your exim.conf file so we
can see where the problem is.

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Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Bob Billson
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 12:57:02PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> /etc/cron.daily is a conffile and will not be overwritten on upgrade
> without dpkg asking you for permission.

hmm... Strange.  It happened twice on two different machines.  I considered
it a minor issue at the time.

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Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Bob Billson
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 05:28:00AM +1100, Jason Lim wrote:
> Yeap, I already replied on that and posted the correct lines to change.

Sorry, I was having a "mental moment". :)

> apache builds, I was suggesting that this could be an optional feature
> maybe made in /etc/apache/cron.conf,

I agree.  Why not file a "wishlist" bug report against apache?

> /etc/cron.daily/apache is marked as a conf file, so the next time apache
> is updated/upgraded, the changes will be overwritten and yet again need to
> be manually changed. See the problem?

Yup and I agree.  I've had my changes overwritten as well.  Add that to the
wishlist bug report and see if the package maintainer agrees.

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Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Bob Billson

On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 12:57:02PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> /etc/cron.daily is a conffile and will not be overwritten on upgrade
> without dpkg asking you for permission.

hmm... Strange.  It happened twice on two different machines.  I considered
it a minor issue at the time.

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Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Bob Billson

On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 05:28:00AM +1100, Jason Lim wrote:
> Yeap, I already replied on that and posted the correct lines to change.

Sorry, I was having a "mental moment". :)

> apache builds, I was suggesting that this could be an optional feature
> maybe made in /etc/apache/cron.conf,

I agree.  Why not file a "wishlist" bug report against apache?

> /etc/cron.daily/apache is marked as a conf file, so the next time apache
> is updated/upgraded, the changes will be overwritten and yet again need to
> be manually changed. See the problem?

Yup and I agree.  I've had my changes overwritten as well.  Add that to the
wishlist bug report and see if the package maintainer agrees.

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Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Bob Billson
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 01:16:03PM +1100, Jason Lim wrote:
> I know about that option...
> but it doesn't CHMOD... it only chowns.

Right.  And look at /etc/cron.daily/apache.  You'll see where 
owner/permissions are set depending on its value, as Pete said.  Edit to
suit your situation.

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Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-09 Thread Bob Billson

On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 01:16:03PM +1100, Jason Lim wrote:
> I know about that option...
> but it doesn't CHMOD... it only chowns.

Right.  And look at /etc/cron.daily/apache.  You'll see where 
owner/permissions are set depending on its value, as Pete said.  Edit to
suit your situation.

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Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-08 Thread Bob Billson
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:05:17AM +1100, Jason Lim wrote:
> Perhaps Johnie could make this an optional setting in
> /etc/apache/cron.conf or something like that...?

There is:

.# Whether to chown logfiles to the user/group Apache runs as.
APACHE_CHOWN_LOGFILES=0
 ^^ This should be 0 *not* 1, which I think is Debian's
default.

This is used by /etc/cron.daily/apache.  The server logs should root.adm or
root.root with 640 permissions.  Having the same that runs the server
owner/group write permissions to the logs is asking for trouble.  Nor
should the world normally be able to look them.

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Re: Strange apache behaviour? (solved)

2001-12-08 Thread Bob Billson

On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:05:17AM +1100, Jason Lim wrote:
> Perhaps Johnie could make this an optional setting in
> /etc/apache/cron.conf or something like that...?

There is:

.# Whether to chown logfiles to the user/group Apache runs as.
APACHE_CHOWN_LOGFILES=0
 ^^ This should be 0 *not* 1, which I think is Debian's
default.

This is used by /etc/cron.daily/apache.  The server logs should root.adm or
root.root with 640 permissions.  Having the same that runs the server
owner/group write permissions to the logs is asking for trouble.  Nor
should the world normally be able to look them.

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Re: Routing which depends on source address?

2001-11-08 Thread Bob Billson
On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 04:42:37PM +0100, Markus Garscha wrote:
> the gw is running debian. the goal is to use two different dialups depending
> on the source address, e.g use default route over ppp0 device when data
> comes from 192.168.1.11 and use default route over ppp0 device when data
> comes from 192.168.1.12. 
> 
> i heard that iptables can do this, examples?

Hi Markus...

iproute2 is what you are looking for.  Your issue is strictly routing so
iptables/ipchains isn't the best way to go.  We needed something very similar
a few weeks back; although not over a dial-up line.

Take a look at the Linux 2.4 Advanced Routing HOWTO.  You can find a copy
at www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO.html.  There is a section
covering iproute2 with examples.

Debian potato already uses iproute2 although they call it iproute, so you
don't need to install anything special.  All you need to do is recompile
your kernel to add IP Policy Routing, set up the tables and away you go.
The HOWTO explains all this.

You can use iptables/ipchains if you need to do other things.  But iproute2
is the way to go for you.

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Re: Traffic shaping

2001-11-08 Thread bob
> Hi again fellas
> 
> Has anyone successfully implemented bandwidth shaping using
> debian ? If so what packages / kernel was used and how easy
> was it ?

We are using the shaper module (shaper.o) from the 2.2 kernel with the
debian shaper package for quite a while now and we are satisfied.
We only perform simple shaping, the outgoing(!) traffic from one or more
network adapters is limited.

It's staightforward in its use:

For an adapter (eth1, 64Kbit):

shapecfg attach shaper0 eth1
shapecfg speed shaper0 64000
ifconfig shaper0 myhost netmask 255.255.255.240 broadcast 1.2.3.4.255 up
route add -net some.network netmask a.b.c.d dev shaper0

Hope this helps,

Bob van der Kamp
Kern Automatiseringsdiensten



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> Any insight is welcome.
> 
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Re: portslave

2001-10-17 Thread Bob Billson
Quoting "I. Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hylafax has a "faxgetty" program that answers the modem.  It allows 
> dial-out like mgetty

On a slight tangent, I like both Hylafax and features of mgetty.  Can
both play together on the same port instead of using faxgetty?

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Re: portslave

2001-10-17 Thread Bob Billson

Quoting "I. Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hylafax has a "faxgetty" program that answers the modem.  It allows 
> dial-out like mgetty

On a slight tangent, I like both Hylafax and features of mgetty.  Can
both play together on the same port instead of using faxgetty?

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Re: Reasons why sending with Exim can be slow?

2001-07-31 Thread Bob Billson

On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 12:40:21AM +0300, Antti Tolamo wrote:
> All networking otherwise works perfectly from LAN to email server. Exim.conf
> is same as before, I even recopied from backups my old one to be sure.

Almost sounds like exim is trying to verify hostnames and IPs.  Is this what
you want to happen.  If so, came the machine properly reach a name server?

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Re: editing exim

2001-07-31 Thread Bob Billson

Kris Blackwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What exactly needs to be edited on exim? 

Along with the advice of the others, check the exim FAQ and mail list
archives which are also on www.exim.org.   If you get stuck on some point in
exim, check their archives.  If you're still stuck, ask on their list.

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Re: Determining IP address of my pc (dial up and/or cable modem)

2001-05-24 Thread Bob Billson
Quoting Tech Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> run ifconfig

That is one way.  Another is: look at the /etc/ppp/ip-up shell script.
When ppp starts up, it runs this script passing various bits of info
too it.  One of those being your assigned IP.  This script also runs
anything it finds in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ (passing the same info).

I wrote a quickie script which saves the info somewhere.  (/var/run seems
like a good place.)

When ppp shuts down, it runs the script /etc/ppp/ip-down and anything it
finds in /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/. 

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Re: Determining IP address of my pc (dial up and/or cable modem)

2001-05-24 Thread Bob Billson

Quoting Tech Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> run ifconfig

That is one way.  Another is: look at the /etc/ppp/ip-up shell script.
When ppp starts up, it runs this script passing various bits of info
too it.  One of those being your assigned IP.  This script also runs
anything it finds in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ (passing the same info).

I wrote a quickie script which saves the info somewhere.  (/var/run seems
like a good place.)

When ppp shuts down, it runs the script /etc/ppp/ip-down and anything it
finds in /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/. 

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Re: Apache and php4_module

2001-05-23 Thread bob
Jakub Ambrożewicz wrote:
If i run php4 as cgi everything is ok. It works fine. But everytime i try to
set
LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
apache wont start. What's going on?
There's nothing in logs, and it seem to start as normal, but process
does not exist.
init.d/apache start says that it starts as normal. But ps says it's not
running,
and init.d/apache stop confirms.
hmm... take look at php modules (not apache but php)

May it be some configuration error? But why there are no log entries?
JA

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Re: Apache and php4_module

2001-05-23 Thread bob

Jakub Ambrożewicz wrote:

> If i run php4 as cgi everything is ok. It works fine. But everytime i try to
> set
> LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
> apache wont start. What's going on?
> There's nothing in logs, and it seem to start as normal, but process
> does not exist.
> init.d/apache start says that it starts as normal. But ps says it's not
> running,
> and init.d/apache stop confirms.

hmm... take look at php modules (not apache but php)


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> May it be some configuration error? But why there are no log entries?
> 
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courier-imap + ldap

2001-05-13 Thread bob
i can't get working autentyfication by courier authldap.
it look's like this module don't want to start at all.
(i have 511 level of dubug of ldap , and can't see any logs after imap 
session)
what is worth, when authldap is my first autentification module imap 
disconecting stright after command "xx LOGIN  "

any idea?



courier-imap + ldap

2001-05-13 Thread bob

i can't get working autentyfication by courier authldap.

it look's like this module don't want to start at all.
(i have 511 level of dubug of ldap , and can't see any logs after imap 
session)
what is worth, when authldap is my first autentification module imap 
disconecting stright after command "xx LOGIN  "

any idea?


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Re: Newbie from NT: exim problem NOT SOLVED

2001-05-03 Thread Bob Billson
Gregory Hostettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator
> (failed to find host name from IP address)

Sounds like exim thinks bluewin.ch is not a local mail domain.  You don't
need to have exim do reverse lookups on local domains.  Did you change
something in /etc/exim.conf?  Might be useful if you post it to the list
so we can spot the problem.

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Re: Newbie from NT: exim problem NOT SOLVED

2001-05-03 Thread Bob Billson

Gregory Hostettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator
> (failed to find host name from IP address)

Sounds like exim thinks bluewin.ch is not a local mail domain.  You don't
need to have exim do reverse lookups on local domains.  Did you change
something in /etc/exim.conf?  Might be useful if you post it to the list
so we can spot the problem.

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Re: "kickstart" for debian needed

2001-03-29 Thread Bob Billson
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:52:49AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> newmachine:# dpkg --set-selections myselection.txt
> 
> now use dselect to install it.

Easier to run: 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' instead of running dselect.

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Re: "kickstart" for debian needed

2001-03-29 Thread Bob Billson
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:52:49AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> dpkg --get-selections >myselection.txt

You should really use:

  dpkg --get-selections '*' > myselection.txt

Difference is the '*' gives you a list of installed, removed and purged
packages.  Without it you get only a list of installed packages.  So you
won't get a true mirror other machine.  The * in inside single quotes to
protect it from the shell.

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Re: "kickstart" for debian needed

2001-03-29 Thread Bob Billson

On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:52:49AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> newmachine:# dpkg --set-selections myselection.txt
> 
> now use dselect to install it.

Easier to run: 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' instead of running dselect.

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Re: "kickstart" for debian needed

2001-03-29 Thread Bob Billson

On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:52:49AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> dpkg --get-selections >myselection.txt

You should really use:

  dpkg --get-selections '*' > myselection.txt

Difference is the '*' gives you a list of installed, removed and purged
packages.  Without it you get only a list of installed packages.  So you
won't get a true mirror other machine.  The * in inside single quotes to
protect it from the shell.

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testing, please ignore

2000-12-07 Thread bob dobbs

test

please ignore
sorry :)


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Re: apt-get problems with changing FTP site

2000-11-23 Thread Bob Billson

On Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 02:49:24PM -, James Preece wrote:
> Your a ham too (2e1avx)

Seems a lot of hams use Debian vs. other Linux distros.  Don't know if it
is a fact or just perception on my part.

> Cheers for the inform, learning apt-get at the moment, can select the
> packages but what do you do to install them ?

We've all been when you are now. :-)  If you know the package name and are
connected to the Net, just run 'apt-get install name-of-package'.  It's a good
idea to run 'apt-get update' first.  This way the system knows what the current
available packages are.

You can also use dselect to choose multiple packages.  dselect's  learning 
curve is a little steep, but it makes sense after a bit.  My personal
preference is to look through the /var/lib/dpkg/available file and use apt-get
directly.  Oh yes, don't forget 'apt-get upgrade' to keep installed packages
current.

> using capt

Never used capt.

> I have a feeling its sinking in slowly today.

This is a good sign. :-)

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Re: apt-get problems with changing FTP site

2000-11-23 Thread Bob Billson

On Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 08:23:28AM -0500, Peter Billson wrote:
> business. I use the following lines in my sources.list:
> 
> # Binaries
> deb htt://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
  ^^^
oops... should be http

If you want to be able to get the Debian source to recompile the packages
yourself, duplicate the lines Pete gave you. Change the 'deb' to 'deb-src'.

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Re: VPN recomendations

2000-09-15 Thread Bob Billson
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 05:15:20PM +0200, I. Forbes wrote:
> As I stated in my first message on this thread, diald does not work 
> with tunnelv.

I noted that.  I'm willing to experiment to see if I can make them play
together.  Thanks for the pointers to RFTM!

      bob

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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?

2000-09-15 Thread Bob Billson
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 09:12:18PM +0200, Davide Libenzi wrote:
> Read well :-)
> XMail is what You're finding for.

ahhh... Right you are.  Sorry.  I was confusing it with XFMail, which is a
mail client.

I don't need an entire mail server.  I already have exim and courier imap
set up.  All I need is a standalone POP server which can handle maildir.
There doesn't seem to be an easy way to make XMail's POP server standalone.
Or is there?  Courier has a POP server, but it isn't standalone either. :-(

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Re: VPN recomendations

2000-09-15 Thread Bob Billson

On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 05:15:20PM +0200, I. Forbes wrote:
> As I stated in my first message on this thread, diald does not work 
> with tunnelv.

I noted that.  I'm willing to experiment to see if I can make them play
together.  Thanks for the pointers to RFTM!

      bob

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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?

2000-09-15 Thread Bob Billson

On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 09:12:18PM +0200, Davide Libenzi wrote:
> Read well :-)
> XMail is what You're finding for.

ahhh... Right you are.  Sorry.  I was confusing it with XFMail, which is a
mail client.

I don't need an entire mail server.  I already have exim and courier imap
set up.  All I need is a standalone POP server which can handle maildir.
There doesn't seem to be an easy way to make XMail's POP server standalone.
Or is there?  Courier has a POP server, but it isn't standalone either. :-(

        bob

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