Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 09:27:42AM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: Hi Russel, > What I want is a cut-down Debian that can fit in flash memory and run > Portslave and other router software. If anyone else wants to start work on > such a thing I'll join in... I have been playing with debootstrap to build such a minimalist machine. Regards. Bao -- Bao C. Havoice: (310) 922-0137 8D66 6672 7A9B 6879 85CD 42E0 9F6C 7908 ED95 6B38 Primary Perpetrator of "Slackware Linux Unleashed"
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 09:27:42AM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: Hi Russel, > What I want is a cut-down Debian that can fit in flash memory and run > Portslave and other router software. If anyone else wants to start work on > such a thing I'll join in... I have been playing with debootstrap to build such a minimalist machine. Regards. Bao -- Bao C. Havoice: (310) 922-0137 8D66 6672 7A9B 6879 85CD 42E0 9F6C 7908 ED95 6B38 Primary Perpetrator of "Slackware Linux Unleashed" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
> Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to > smoothwall? I have considered starting development of such a project. But decided not to because I don't think I have the time. What I want is a cut-down Debian that can fit in flash memory and run Portslave and other router software. If anyone else wants to start work on such a thing I'll join in... -- http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
There is a specific Linux router package. It fits on one diskette. The router doesn't need a hard drive. I don't know if it does IPMASQ. www.linuxrouter.org Greg *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/23/2001 at 8:02 PM Jesse Goerz wrote: On Wednesday 21 November 2001 03:27, Russell Coker wrote: > > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function > > to smoothwall? > > I have considered starting development of such a project. But > decided not to because I don't think I have the time. > > What I want is a cut-down Debian that can fit in flash memory > and run Portslave and other router software. If anyone else > wants to start work on such a thing I'll join in... Did a little research and found these firewall related tools. They are all in Debian (mostly unstable I think) maybe there is a way to bring them all together and cut down development time? http://www.fwbuilder.org/index.html http://rcf.mvlan.net/ firewall-easy (deb package, has a doc pkg in spanish) ferm (deb package) Including the gibraltar link posted previously. Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gregory Wood 1219 West University Blvd. Odessa TX 79764-7119 915-335-0879 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
There is a specific Linux router package. It fits on one diskette. The router doesn't need a hard drive. I don't know if it does IPMASQ. www.linuxrouter.org Greg *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/23/2001 at 8:02 PM Jesse Goerz wrote: On Wednesday 21 November 2001 03:27, Russell Coker wrote: > > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function > > to smoothwall? > > I have considered starting development of such a project. But > decided not to because I don't think I have the time. > > What I want is a cut-down Debian that can fit in flash memory > and run Portslave and other router software. If anyone else > wants to start work on such a thing I'll join in... Did a little research and found these firewall related tools. They are all in Debian (mostly unstable I think) maybe there is a way to bring them all together and cut down development time? http://www.fwbuilder.org/index.html http://rcf.mvlan.net/ firewall-easy (deb package, has a doc pkg in spanish) ferm (deb package) Including the gibraltar link posted previously. Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gregory Wood 1219 West University Blvd. Odessa TX 79764-7119 915-335-0879
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
On Wednesday 21 November 2001 03:27, Russell Coker wrote: > > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function > > to smoothwall? > > I have considered starting development of such a project. But > decided not to because I don't think I have the time. > > What I want is a cut-down Debian that can fit in flash memory > and run Portslave and other router software. If anyone else > wants to start work on such a thing I'll join in... Did a little research and found these firewall related tools. They are all in Debian (mostly unstable I think) maybe there is a way to bring them all together and cut down development time? http://www.fwbuilder.org/index.html http://rcf.mvlan.net/ firewall-easy (deb package, has a doc pkg in spanish) ferm (deb package) Including the gibraltar link posted previously. Jesse
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
> Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to > smoothwall? I have considered starting development of such a project. But decided not to because I don't think I have the time. What I want is a cut-down Debian that can fit in flash memory and run Portslave and other router software. If anyone else wants to start work on such a thing I'll join in... -- http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
There is a turn key package at www.netmax.com. It converts everything into web based interface. It may work for you. Greg Wood *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/21/2001 at 11:04 AM Christian Kurz wrote: On 20/11/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:30:43PM -0500, Jesse Goerz wrote: > > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to > > smoothwall? > > All the server needs to do is act as a firewall/router for the > > internal lan and the webserver. It won't be offering any other > > services. > Storm Linux makes such a beast, I believe. If you haven't noticed it so far, Stormix, the company that creates Storm Linux, has gone bankruptcy. So Storm Linux isn't available any more and one would have to either look at other distributions based on Debian GNU/Linux or build a firewall on his own. Christian -- Debian Developer (http://www.debian.org) 1024/26CC7853 31E6 A8CA 68FC 284F 7D16 63EC A9E6 67FF 26CC 7853 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6b (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAjv7fDUACgkQHJju87fOx+j0wACgibo/B6lqcpFhg/iV55GehDtJ 5yIAn0NgF0qw2b2JVMAfoEpNH7TLfo6u =K5jf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gregory Wood 1219 West University Blvd. Odessa TX 79764-7119 915-335-0879
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
There is a turn key package at www.netmax.com. It converts everything into web based interface. It may work for you. Greg Wood *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/21/2001 at 11:04 AM Christian Kurz wrote: On 20/11/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:30:43PM -0500, Jesse Goerz wrote: > > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to > > smoothwall? > > All the server needs to do is act as a firewall/router for the > > internal lan and the webserver. It won't be offering any other > > services. > Storm Linux makes such a beast, I believe. If you haven't noticed it so far, Stormix, the company that creates Storm Linux, has gone bankruptcy. So Storm Linux isn't available any more and one would have to either look at other distributions based on Debian GNU/Linux or build a firewall on his own. Christian -- Debian Developer (http://www.debian.org) 1024/26CC7853 31E6 A8CA 68FC 284F 7D16 63EC A9E6 67FF 26CC 7853 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6b (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAjv7fDUACgkQHJju87fOx+j0wACgibo/B6lqcpFhg/iV55GehDtJ 5yIAn0NgF0qw2b2JVMAfoEpNH7TLfo6u =K5jf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gregory Wood 1219 West University Blvd. Odessa TX 79764-7119 915-335-0879 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
On Wednesday 21 November 2001 14:31, Hereward Cooper wrote: > Once upon a time (actually it was more like Wed, 21 Nov 2001 > 10:31:09 -0500), > > "Robb Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jesse Goerz wrote: > > > ... [boss] wanted to buy > > > a Cobalt but I recommended we install a smoothwall machine > > > instead. [...] Whatever I install I have to be able > > > to convince him that he can semi-administer it if I'm not > > > there. > > > > > > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in > > > function to smoothwall? > > What about gibraltar, debian based and action packed (but it > requires knowledge to set it up). > www.gibraltar.at > > Hereward Thanks, I'm checking it out.
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
On Wednesday 21 November 2001 14:31, Hereward Cooper wrote: > Once upon a time (actually it was more like Wed, 21 Nov 2001 > 10:31:09 -0500), > > "Robb Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jesse Goerz wrote: > > > ... [boss] wanted to buy > > > a Cobalt but I recommended we install a smoothwall machine > > > instead. [...] Whatever I install I have to be able > > > to convince him that he can semi-administer it if I'm not > > > there. > > > > > > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in > > > function to smoothwall? > > What about gibraltar, debian based and action packed (but it > requires knowledge to set it up). > www.gibraltar.at > > Hereward Thanks, I'm checking it out. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
Once upon a time (actually it was more like Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:31:09 -0500), "Robb Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jesse Goerz wrote: > > > ... [boss] wanted to buy > > a Cobalt but I recommended we install a smoothwall machine > > instead. [...] Whatever I install I have to be able > > to convince him that he can semi-administer it if I'm not there. > > > > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to > > smoothwall? What about gibraltar, debian based and action packed (but it requires knowledge to set it up). www.gibraltar.at Hereward
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
Once upon a time (actually it was more like Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:31:09 -0500), "Robb Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jesse Goerz wrote: > > > ... [boss] wanted to buy > > a Cobalt but I recommended we install a smoothwall machine > > instead. [...] Whatever I install I have to be able > > to convince him that he can semi-administer it if I'm not there. > > > > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to > > smoothwall? What about gibraltar, debian based and action packed (but it requires knowledge to set it up). www.gibraltar.at Hereward -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
Jesse Goerz wrote: ... [boss] wanted to buy a Cobalt but I recommended we install a smoothwall machine instead. [...] Whatever I install I have to be able to convince him that he can semi-administer it if I'm not there. Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to smoothwall? Smoothwall is a handy, quick install, but I've been unimpressed with support. The web site espouses the many benefits of open source software, but the developer traffic on the user mailing list is largely "I won't ['add this feature'|'tell you how to use it'] unless someone pays me" (the usual expletives have been deleted). The lead developer repeatedly calling folks "fucking morons" just rubbed me the wrong way.[1] I took my experience from dinking with the Smoothwall install and reimplimented it myself with Woody, running 2.4.x,iptables and snort. Probably not managable by the boss in a pinch, but it turns out that it was damn easy to set up myself. (iptables rules are a cinch) I saw a glowing review for March Networks SME Server 5[2] (formerly e-Smith) in Linux Magazine this month. It purports to compete with the Cobalts of the world by providing an "appliance distribution" -- just the software to be installed on hardware of your choosing. The software install is free to download[3] and money is made by the ServiceLink[4] service which can take care of monitoring and updates. But, alas, not Debian as far as I can tell ... [1] It should be noted that the users list -is- inundated with RTFM-solved questions, but attitude is attitude. [2] http://www.e-smith.com/solutions/ [3] http://www.e-smith.org/downloads [4] http://www.e-smith.com/solutions/servicelink.php
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
Jesse Goerz wrote: > ... [boss] wanted to buy > a Cobalt but I recommended we install a smoothwall machine > instead. [...] Whatever I install I have to be able > to convince him that he can semi-administer it if I'm not there. > > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to > smoothwall? Smoothwall is a handy, quick install, but I've been unimpressed with support. The web site espouses the many benefits of open source software, but the developer traffic on the user mailing list is largely "I won't ['add this feature'|'tell you how to use it'] unless someone pays me" (the usual expletives have been deleted). The lead developer repeatedly calling folks "fucking morons" just rubbed me the wrong way.[1] I took my experience from dinking with the Smoothwall install and reimplimented it myself with Woody, running 2.4.x,iptables and snort. Probably not managable by the boss in a pinch, but it turns out that it was damn easy to set up myself. (iptables rules are a cinch) I saw a glowing review for March Networks SME Server 5[2] (formerly e-Smith) in Linux Magazine this month. It purports to compete with the Cobalts of the world by providing an "appliance distribution" -- just the software to be installed on hardware of your choosing. The software install is free to download[3] and money is made by the ServiceLink[4] service which can take care of monitoring and updates. But, alas, not Debian as far as I can tell ... [1] It should be noted that the users list -is- inundated with RTFM-solved questions, but attitude is attitude. [2] http://www.e-smith.com/solutions/ [3] http://www.e-smith.org/downloads [4] http://www.e-smith.com/solutions/servicelink.php -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
On 20/11/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:30:43PM -0500, Jesse Goerz wrote: > > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to > > smoothwall? > > All the server needs to do is act as a firewall/router for the > > internal lan and the webserver. It won't be offering any other > > services. > Storm Linux makes such a beast, I believe. If you haven't noticed it so far, Stormix, the company that creates Storm Linux, has gone bankruptcy. So Storm Linux isn't available any more and one would have to either look at other distributions based on Debian GNU/Linux or build a firewall on his own. Christian -- Debian Developer (http://www.debian.org) 1024/26CC7853 31E6 A8CA 68FC 284F 7D16 63EC A9E6 67FF 26CC 7853 pgpwPvCsSDsLS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
On 20/11/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:30:43PM -0500, Jesse Goerz wrote: > > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to > > smoothwall? > > All the server needs to do is act as a firewall/router for the > > internal lan and the webserver. It won't be offering any other > > services. > Storm Linux makes such a beast, I believe. If you haven't noticed it so far, Stormix, the company that creates Storm Linux, has gone bankruptcy. So Storm Linux isn't available any more and one would have to either look at other distributions based on Debian GNU/Linux or build a firewall on his own. Christian -- Debian Developer (http://www.debian.org) 1024/26CC7853 31E6 A8CA 68FC 284F 7D16 63EC A9E6 67FF 26CC 7853 msg04047/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:30:43PM -0500, Jesse Goerz wrote: > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to > smoothwall? > > All the server needs to do is act as a firewall/router for the > internal lan and the webserver. It won't be offering any other > services. Storm Linux makes such a beast, I believe. Tim -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >> Tim Sailer (at home) >< Coastal Internet, Inc. << >> Network and Systems Operations >< PO Box 671 << >> http://www.buoy.com >< Ridge, NY 11961 << >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >< (631) 924-3728 << >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Debian firewall/router distro?
I'm a newbie administrator at a small publishing company. I have been consistently trying to get my boss to migrate a yellowdog linux server to debian-ppc. After a recent 3 hour outage (ouch) my boss couldn't do anything to get the machine up (I'm a part time worker, not on call). Anyway, he wanted to buy a Cobalt but I recommended we install a smoothwall machine instead. I'm confident I can get the smoothwall machine up and running but what I really want is a debian based distro for easy upgrades and maintenance. Whatever I install I have to be able to convince him that he can semi-administer it if I'm not there. Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to smoothwall? All the server needs to do is act as a firewall/router for the internal lan and the webserver. It won't be offering any other services. TIA, Jesse
Re: Debian firewall/router distro?
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:30:43PM -0500, Jesse Goerz wrote: > Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to > smoothwall? > > All the server needs to do is act as a firewall/router for the > internal lan and the webserver. It won't be offering any other > services. Storm Linux makes such a beast, I believe. Tim -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >> Tim Sailer (at home) >< Coastal Internet, Inc. << >> Network and Systems Operations >< PO Box 671 << >> http://www.buoy.com >< Ridge, NY 11961 << >> [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] >< (631) 924-3728 << >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian firewall/router distro?
I'm a newbie administrator at a small publishing company. I have been consistently trying to get my boss to migrate a yellowdog linux server to debian-ppc. After a recent 3 hour outage (ouch) my boss couldn't do anything to get the machine up (I'm a part time worker, not on call). Anyway, he wanted to buy a Cobalt but I recommended we install a smoothwall machine instead. I'm confident I can get the smoothwall machine up and running but what I really want is a debian based distro for easy upgrades and maintenance. Whatever I install I have to be able to convince him that he can semi-administer it if I'm not there. Is there a debian-firewall/router distro similar in function to smoothwall? All the server needs to do is act as a firewall/router for the internal lan and the webserver. It won't be offering any other services. TIA, Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
