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Problems with KDE
Hi. I have KDE 2.2.2 on my computer and (nearly) everything works just fine. Eccept for 2 things: 1) I can click on the DVD icon, it mounts and tries to start konqueror, but konqueror does not open! 2) Using konqueror for webbrowsing, it often uses too small fontswhich I cannot change! I found out: In Control Center/Country Language I cannot enter a charset, the line is always empty. I also can't do this in konqueror. These functions 1) click icon 2) use the right size for Fonts and the line in charset do work, using another user. But as my computer is used as a one-person-pc I have a very nice userenvironment and it would take very long to put everything into the another profile. If I would just copy every file I think I would also copy the errors which occur. I think the problem can be solved by changing something in /home/user/.kde, but I don't know that much about KDE to know what to do. Has anyone an idea? Thank you very much and regards Markus
kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
Is there any light in the tunnel for kde3 being uploaded in Sid some day, some year or so? I might be sounding a bit negative but haven't seen any progress or some sort of status from the maintaineres for some while now.. Is it still the transition to gcc 3.X that slows debians progress to be a useful desktop system? Cheers /Robert
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
Hear, hear. I'm sad to say that if this (and GNOME 2.x) doesn't happen soon, I'll have to switch to another distro, despite how much I appreciate Debian. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spoke Thusly: Is there any light in the tunnel for kde3 being uploaded in Sid some day, some year or so? I might be sounding a bit negative but haven't seen any progress or some sort of status from the maintaineres for some while now.. Is it still the transition to gcc 3.X that slows debians progress to be a useful desktop system? Cheers /Robert -- James Lindenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] random head noise or ...? http://jwl.blogspot.com
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
Sorry for the empty mess. Geezzz I know. But as you state yourself it's not in SID, it for sure works with SID but it's official packages, even though that the packages you are refering to are mostly created by the package maintenars for kde in debian. What is holding back kde3 from being uploaded in SED then? I don't want to go on a apt-get find the right apt-get lines for today crusade. I don't want to go find packages in some rpm-findish way. I whant them in my standard apt-get lines, like the way all other packages are maintained. . Geez you can get the packages easily for sid. Even kde has the packages hosted and did from the moment kde 3.0.3 came out and kde 3.0.1-3.0.2 has been available for a while now and the locations have been publicized in a number of locations. Just add the apt lines and install it. I have been running kde 3.0.x in debian sid for a while now without any problems.
koffice 1.2 for woody
hi all, i just finished compiling koffice for woody the packages are on deb http://www.opensides.be/kde3/ ./ full instruction in in http://www.opensides.be, menu debian have fun -- Opensides sprl Benoit Mortier - Linux Engineer
Logout, Shutdown, Reboot
Hi! I use KDE 2.2.2 and when I choose Logout, it asks if I really want to logout but there is no options to choose shutdown or reboot, too. I can do shutdown or reboot only from KDM. How can I configure KDE to ask me at logout if I want logout, shutdown, or reboot? I couldn't find such a setting in KDE Control Center, but I do know that it is possible because I saw it in another distribution (Mandrake Linux). Thanks, GregTom
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020913 14:13]: I don't want to go on a apt-get find the right apt-get lines for today crusade. I don't want to go find packages in some rpm-findish way. I whant them in my standard apt-get lines, like the way all other packages are maintained. . i would say the kid has a point there. - the kde3 packages work better then the old ones which were/are in unstable - kde is an improtant part (for me alt last) of a distro - the bug tracking system is there to help the maintainer, not to make him feel threatend by open bugs, so let us use it for kde3, too! - big upcoming trasitions (menu system, c++) need to be done if the packages are in debian or not - this is what unstable is there for (and again: these packages are less unstable then the ones in stable. (c: )
RE: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
gnome 1.4 and 2.2 do me just fine, there wasn't a huge lot of extras from what i've seen in kde 3 over kde 2.2. And last time i checked out (admittedly a month ago or so) gnome 2 was extremely unstable. I can't justify changing o/s just cos of the version of kde/gnome that it's running. What matters is the distribution as a whole package. I don't think i could ever go back to rh/suse/mandrake again :-) I like Debian, I like the fact that other users (contrary to my very first post - we'll ignore that) are extremely helpful. And the bonus is i'm having to work, to get things working, which means i learn more. Dave -Original Message- From: James Lindenschmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 13 September 2002 10:02 PM To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org; David Pastern Subject: Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen? Hear, hear. I'm sad to say that if this (and GNOME 2.x) doesn't happen soon, I'll have to switch to another distro, despite how much I appreciate Debian. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spoke Thusly: Is there any light in the tunnel for kde3 being uploaded in Sid some day, some year or so? I might be sounding a bit negative but haven't seen any progress or some sort of status from the maintaineres for some while now.. Is it still the transition to gcc 3.X that slows debians progress to be a useful desktop system? Cheers /Robert -- James Lindenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] random head noise or ...? http://jwl.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fwd: Re: Logout, Shutdown, Reboot
Let's try posting to the list... :¬) Regards, Malcolm I use KDE 2.2.2 and when I choose Logout, it asks if I really want to logout but there is no options to choose shutdown or reboot, too. I can do shutdown or reboot only from KDM. How can I configure KDE to ask me at logout if I want logout, shutdown, or reboot? I couldn't find such a setting in KDE Control Center, but I do know that it is possible because I saw it in another distribution (Mandrake Linux). In Control Center - System - Login Manager, Sessions tab: Allow Shutdown, Console should be set to Everyone. Regards, Malcolm -- KDE Proof Reading Team KDE GB English Translation Team GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net
RE: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
Though I wouldn't know from experience, by most accounts I've heard KDE 3.x has several advantages over KDE 2.x, speed and stability being two. Of course, the improved eye candy doesn't hurt either (so much for speed! LOL). You raise some good points. I am quite productive in KDE 2.2.2, but many of the applications I am using have moved to KDE 3.x, and as such I don't get bug fixes and/or new features since KDE 3 isn't yet in sid. I am definitely a non-geek end-user type, with a strong ethical commitment to Free software, which is why I turned to Debian in the first place. I would love to run LibraNet, but they seem to want to not have users, since they don't allow downloads of their latest versions. This seems contrary to the spirit of the GPL to me (though it is apparently within the 'letter of the law') :-( I agree that I don't relish going back to RedHat, but it looks to me that RH8 may have what I need as an end-user type. But I would certainly miss apt-get. Jim David Pastern Spoke Thusly: gnome 1.4 and 2.2 do me just fine, there wasn't a huge lot of extras from what i've seen in kde 3 over kde 2.2. And last time i checked out (admittedly a month ago or so) gnome 2 was extremely unstable. I can't justify changing o/s just cos of the version of kde/gnome that it's running. What matters is the distribution as a whole package. I don't think i could ever go back to rh/suse/mandrake again :-) I like Debian, I like the fact that other users (contrary to my very first post - we'll ignore that) are extremely helpful. And the bonus is i'm having to work, to get things working, which means i learn more. Dave -Original Message- From: James Lindenschmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 13 September 2002 10:02 PM To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org; David Pastern Subject: Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen? Hear, hear. I'm sad to say that if this (and GNOME 2.x) doesn't happen soon, I'll have to switch to another distro, despite how much I appreciate Debian. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spoke Thusly: Is there any light in the tunnel for kde3 being uploaded in Sid some day, some year or so? I might be sounding a bit negative but haven't seen any progress or some sort of status from the maintaineres for some while now.. Is it still the transition to gcc 3.X that slows debians progress to be a useful desktop system? Cheers /Robert -- James Lindenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] random head noise or ...? http://jwl.blogspot.com
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 02:32:45PM +0100, Paul Cupis wrote: I notice that people have stopped asking when X4.2 will be in sid, and when openoffice.org will be in sid... [and no, I'm not asking now, either] FYI: Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:33:11 -0400 From: Debian Installer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: openoffice.org_1.0.1-5_i386.changes is NEW (new) openoffice.org-bin_1.0.1-5_i386.deb optional contrib/editors ... We really did upload it already (compiled against gcc3.2 in unstable), it is stuck waiting for approval... Chris pgp16LtDIB72B.pgp Description: PGP signature
KDevelop and documentation for KDE and QT, How?
Hello, I am running KDevelop 2.1.3, and I miss the KDE library documentation at the left navigation panel. In former versions, I could unfold a tree with the list of classes for QT and KDE. Now I can only browse the QT documentation form the centralpanel. I have also installed htdig, and doxygen. For the first one I have followed the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kdevelop/README-htdig.Debian and the search engine works fine. I have read in this list that doxygen is necessary for the documentation, but I am unsuccesfull browsing the documentatino form KDevelop. I even select the path where the documentation for KDE is, but KDevelop does not recongnize the directory as valid. Thanks in advance Pablo de Vicente.
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
Paul Cupis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 13 September 2002 12:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any light in the tunnel for kde3 being uploaded in Sid some day, some year or so? I might be sounding a bit negative but haven't seen any progress or some sort of status from the maintaineres for some while now.. Is it still the transition to gcc 3.X that slows debians progress to be a useful desktop system? kde3 will go into sid when the gcc3.2 transiton is over/complete. KDE is very much a C++-based system and there is little point uploading it using gcc3.1 ^^^ 2.95 and then reuploading/compiling it in X days/weeks when the gcc3.2 transition happens. And it cannot be uploaded now as gcc3.2 becuase the ftp-masters will not allow gcc3.2 libraries in until the DD's have worked out how to best deal with gcc3.2. I think it is just a matter of being patient, or helping the developers decide how the gcc3.2 transition is going to happen, so that it can happen and kde3 can go in. But isn't the point of the gcc transition to decide how to cleanly migrate C++ stuff like KDE to the new ABI? If KDE3 were uploaded, it would just end up transitioning just like every other C++ library, like Qt. -- People said I was dumb, but I proved them!
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 13 September 2002 09:08 am, James Lindenschmidt wrote: Though I wouldn't know from experience, by most accounts I've heard KDE 3.x has several advantages over KDE 2.x, speed and stability being two. Of course, the improved eye candy doesn't hurt either (so much for speed! LOL). I am running KDE 3.1 on debian sid, and it is nice and stable, and the speed is good, but I honestly don't believe that the desktop environment is faster as a whole - individual applications, like Konqueror's HTML rendering speed, yes, - but the overall 'snappiness' and memory usage is (AFAICT) about the same as 2.2. You raise some good points. I am quite productive in KDE 2.2.2, but many of the applications I am using have moved to KDE 3.x, and as such I don't get bug fixes and/or new features since KDE 3 isn't yet in sid. Yup. This is one of the reasons I moved up also. I am definitely a non-geek end-user type, with a strong ethical commitment to Free software, which is why I turned to Debian in the first place. I would love to run LibraNet, but they seem to want to not have users, since they don't allow downloads of their latest versions. This seems contrary to the spirit of the GPL to me (though it is apparently within the 'letter of the law') :-( The spirit of the GPL is not to give away software for free. That's free as in free beer. The spirit of the GPL is that the source is always included, and you can do what you like with your own software. That's free as in freedom. I agree that I don't relish going back to RedHat, but it looks to me that RH8 may have what I need as an end-user type. But I would certainly miss apt-get. IMHO, RedHat is not more bleeding-edge than Debian. They're just crazy enough to release software that still has major bugs - that the upstream (the folks who work on individual projects like Gnome, KDE, E, gcc, etc.) are issuing warnings about. I'd rather have a stable OS that works as it should than one that looks really cool if and when it runs. That's why most ex-windoze linux users converted to using Linux, right? For the stability. IMNSHO, the RedHat Package Manager is far less powerful and flexible than Debian's dpkg. Forcing users to go searching for RPM's that may or may not have that dependency you need to compile/run an important program is idiocy. The situation is worsened because of all the RPM's that are built by upstream authors who may or may not adhere to the FSH and the LSB. Heck, Suse is different enough from RedHat to cause wierd problems with some distributor-inspecific RPMs. My point is that Debian has FAR more pro's than con's. It will install and run on more architectures than many distributions, and if you stick with the potato or woody distribution, you are almost guaranteed that your software will run flawlessly. Sure, the version may be 2.2 instead of 3.1, but that will be ameliorated when gcc-3.2 enters unstable/sid. Don't get discouraged - and if you need more 'bleeding edge' unstable/sid, take a look at http://www.golum.org/aptgetlinks.shtml. That is my local LUG homepage, where we have published some of the more popular 'unofficial' apt-getables. Just add the lines indicated to your /etc/apt/sources.list and dist-upgrade. When the unofficial packages enter sid, just remove the line. It doesn't get much easier than that. Nathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9ghkm4e9YdOpQYMsRAuauAJsFjkZFcV5J0HBZpePXNW7c5y2DKgCfT5/4 NjhEBxPLSek+/HfVPFPGIJU= =t1JF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
On Friday 13 September 2002 18:58, Nathan Waddell wrote: IMNSHO, the RedHat Package Manager is far less powerful and flexible than Debian's dpkg. Forcing users to go searching for RPM's that may or may not have that dependency you need to compile/run an important program is idiocy. IMELHO (In My Even Less Humble Opinion) this has nothing to do with dpkg vs. rpm but rather with apt vs. non-apt. Redhat doesn't support Apt (because they sell a service that does the same?). Debian does (duh). There is apt for rpm too, see Connectiva (and it also works with Mandrake afaik). -- Frank Van Damme homepage: www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~m9917684 jabber (=IM): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 13 September 2002 15:20, Chris Halls wrote: On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 02:32:45PM +0100, Paul Cupis wrote: I notice that people have stopped asking when X4.2 will be in sid, and when openoffice.org will be in sid... [and no, I'm not asking now, either] FYI: Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:33:11 -0400 From: Debian Installer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: openoffice.org_1.0.1-5_i386.changes is NEW (new) openoffice.org-bin_1.0.1-5_i386.deb optional contrib/editors ... We really did upload it already (compiled against gcc3.2 in unstable), it is stuck waiting for approval... Hi Chris, Yeah, I know it was updated, and I know about the libstlport/gcc3.2/openoffice.org thing et cetera, and I know it is ready (in and of itself) to go into Debian - I am very happy with the current packages (I've been running them since Peter's first package and subscribe to debian-openoffice). I was just interested by the fact that people seemed have learned to wait for X4.2 and openoffice.org to get into sid, but still keep asking about kde3. Not that I have any problem with people asking for updates, either. P.S.: thanks for all the work you and the others have put into the openoffice.org debs, Chris. Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9giOHIzuKV+SHX/kRAibKAJwOBm0BPfbyattevHA7rmPAX9tzVACfdywA /VtJa5fxEk8EyELJ98rLNgc= =QjIH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 13 September 2002 15:58, Matt Reynolds wrote: On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 08:32, Paul Cupis wrote: kde3 will go into sid when the gcc3.2 transiton is over/complete. KDE is very much a C++-based system and there is little point uploading it using gcc3.1 and then reuploading/compiling it in X days/weeks when the gcc3.2 transition happens. And it cannot be uploaded now as gcc3.2 becuase the ftp-masters will not allow gcc3.2 libraries in until the DD's have worked out how to best deal with gcc3.2. I think it is just a matter of being patient, or helping the developers decide how the gcc3.2 transition is going to happen, so that it can happen and kde3 can go in. I notice that people have stopped asking when X4.2 will be in sid, and when openoffice.org will be in sid... [and no, I'm not asking now, either] One of the reasons I haven't complained or queried about X4.2 is that Branden is very good about replying to list complaints, releasing, and publicizing his releases. Visibility and transparency in the packaging process seems to keep the wolves at bay. While I'm happier with 4.2's packaging, I would still *love* to see dates associated with the actions taken on list(s). Not a schedule, but just a here's what we've done so far timeline. This keeps everyone on the same page, and could even help remove duplicated effort, IMNSHO. You do, of course have a good point and I thank you for your feedback. There is already an (under-publicised) kde faq, at http://www.davidpashley.com/debian-kde though I'm not certain from memory that it has this type of information. It is obvious now that it should, and I will work with the maintainer and the debian-kde folk to get that information into the faq. I will probably also see about getting the faq a bit more publicity than the occasional mention here and the references to it on #debian-kde/#debian. Thank you, Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9gir3IzuKV+SHX/kRAuRaAJ9wQWD44J9GeQEz/x14HzDaXr3j4gCfaUJG 8ABK7JdWNgIqMHy0SY9OmTk= =VEu5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
Brian Nelson said, and I quote: But isn't the point of the gcc transition to decide how to cleanly migrate C++ stuff like KDE to the new ABI? If KDE3 were uploaded, it would just end up transitioning just like every other C++ library, like Qt. If I understand the current draft transistion plan, every C++ package will need a c added to the package name a la the libc5 - libc6 transition. This can be dropped when the sonames is updated AIUI, most(all?) of the KDE libs have had their sonames bumped so we do not need to do this if we put KDE 3 in to a post transition sid, but we will have to wait until KDE4 before we can drop the c from the package names if we put it in a pre-transition sid. -- David Pashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. pgpNP5xVThuwc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
Frank Van Damme said, and I quote: On Friday 13 September 2002 18:58, Nathan Waddell wrote: IMNSHO, the RedHat Package Manager is far less powerful and flexible than Debian's dpkg. Forcing users to go searching for RPM's that may or may not have that dependency you need to compile/run an important program is idiocy. IMELHO (In My Even Less Humble Opinion) this has nothing to do with dpkg vs. rpm but rather with apt vs. non-apt. Redhat doesn't support Apt (because they sell a service that does the same?). Debian does (duh). There is apt for rpm too, see Connectiva (and it also works with Mandrake afaik). I think you too are mistaken. What makes Debian better than most distributions is policy (and lintian/linda) and the fact that most software has already been packaged so you don;t need to search for packages which may or may not work with your version of linux. Policy has the nice effect of making sure that debian packages work well together. The other nice advantage is that debian packages don't have to try and work on 50 different distributions. -- David Pashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. pgplgxpDbKlt5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KDevelop and documentation for KDE and QT, How?
Pablo de Vicente said, and I quote: Hello, I am running KDevelop 2.1.3, and I miss the KDE library documentation at the left navigation panel. In former versions, I could unfold a tree with the list of classes for QT and KDE. Now I can only browse the QT documentation form the centralpanel. I have also installed htdig, and doxygen. For the first one I have followed the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kdevelop/README-htdig.Debian and the search engine works fine. I have read in this list that doxygen is necessary for the documentation, but I am unsuccesfull browsing the documentatino form KDevelop. I even select the path where the documentation for KDE is, but KDevelop does not recongnize the directory as valid. About 3 weeks before KDE 3.0.0 was released, KDE developers changed the program used to generate the documentation. Previously they used kdoc. They have since moved to doxygen, which produces different documentation Kdevelop for KDE3 did not have time to change to the new docs format. I think you will have to wait for an updated kdevelop 2.x or wait for Gideon. -- David Pashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. pgpmx8M1ZVtGQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
Paul Cupis said, and I quote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 13 September 2002 15:58, Matt Reynolds wrote: On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 08:32, Paul Cupis wrote: kde3 will go into sid when the gcc3.2 transiton is over/complete. KDE is very much a C++-based system and there is little point uploading it using gcc3.1 and then reuploading/compiling it in X days/weeks when the gcc3.2 transition happens. And it cannot be uploaded now as gcc3.2 becuase the ftp-masters will not allow gcc3.2 libraries in until the DD's have worked out how to best deal with gcc3.2. I think it is just a matter of being patient, or helping the developers decide how the gcc3.2 transition is going to happen, so that it can happen and kde3 can go in. I notice that people have stopped asking when X4.2 will be in sid, and when openoffice.org will be in sid... [and no, I'm not asking now, either] One of the reasons I haven't complained or queried about X4.2 is that Branden is very good about replying to list complaints, releasing, and publicizing his releases. Visibility and transparency in the packaging process seems to keep the wolves at bay. While I'm happier with 4.2's packaging, I would still *love* to see dates associated with the actions taken on list(s). Not a schedule, but just a here's what we've done so far timeline. This keeps everyone on the same page, and could even help remove duplicated effort, IMNSHO. KDE 3.0.3 is packaged and apart from a KDE 3.0.4 release, the KDE 3.0.x branch is pretty much finished packaging wise. calc and others are now working on KDE 3.1 packaging. KDE 3.x will be in sid once the GCC transition plan has been worked out and started. This is kind of out of our hands. You do, of course have a good point and I thank you for your feedback. There is already an (under-publicised) kde faq, at http://www.davidpashley.com/debian-kde though I'm not certain from memory that it has this type of information. It is obvious now that it should, and I will work with the maintainer and the debian-kde folk to get that information into the faq. I will probably also see about getting the faq a bit more publicity than the occasional mention here and the references to it on #debian-kde/#debian. Thank you, Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9gir3IzuKV+SHX/kRAuRaAJ9wQWD44J9GeQEz/x14HzDaXr3j4gCfaUJG 8ABK7JdWNgIqMHy0SY9OmTk= =VEu5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- David Pashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. pgpXgdzPddMUe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
fredagen den 13 september 2002 22.33 skrev David Pashley: AIUI, most(all?) of the KDE libs have had their sonames bumped so we do not need to do this if we put KDE 3 in to a post transition sid, but we will have to wait until KDE4 before we can drop the c from the package names if we put it in a pre-transition sid. This sounds like trouble waiting to happen. -- Karolina
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 13 September 2002 10:03 am, Frank Van Damme wrote: On Friday 13 September 2002 18:58, Nathan Waddell wrote: IMNSHO, the RedHat Package Manager is far less powerful and flexible than Debian's dpkg. Forcing users to go searching for RPM's that may or may not have that dependency you need to compile/run an important program is idiocy. IMELHO (In My Even Less Humble Opinion) this has nothing to do with dpkg vs. rpm but rather with apt vs. non-apt. Redhat doesn't support Apt (because they sell a service that does the same?). Debian does (duh). There is apt for rpm too, see Connectiva (and it also works with Mandrake afaik). Actually, Red Hat does support apt. I used it. Nothing like seeing apt getting blahblahxx.RPM :) - -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9gnYpZHBxKsta6kMRAjGTAKCR5KyQ1Jj1QP/gNeCKMQN+FWjjWACeI1sn 0sNm9VZeE8554HORQt2MfHA= =ssa3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-