Help with KDE3 Please

2002-10-03 Thread Tom

Hi All, 

My goal is to contribute toward Linux, and it looks to me like 
Debian is my best avenue to do so.  I think of it as giving back 
to all of you who have already given to me. 

Primarily from reading the excellent mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian 
and davidpashley.com/debian-kde/faq.html I've been trying to install 
the 3.1Beta, but it looks like I've done something wrong.  

(Note: To learn Debian, I originally installed 'stable' 3.0 (woody),
then recently upgraded to 'unstable'.) 

To save time/bandwidth, I'm stacking all my questions here, in order 
of priority. 


-- 
QUESTION ABOUT DOCS:  

From http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian, the How to Install 
KDE3 on Debian 3.x.y/Sarge (testing/unstable) section appears to 
have an obvious typo.  Shouldn't the first line be up-to-date Sarge 
system instead of up-to-date Woody system? 

From the same web page and section, after my installation I could 
not log in to KDE because I didn't have the 'kdelibs4-bin' package 
installed.  Should this section explicitly mention 'kdelibs4-bin' too? 

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PRIMARY QUESTION: 

(Reading the above docs, most of my uncertainty involved the correct 
way to remove KDE2, and I *suspect* my current problems may be related 
more to improper removal of KDE2 than improper installation of KDE3.) 

I can login in to KDE3 and run, but I don't get the menubar across 
the bottom of the screen, so when I minimize a window, I don't know 
how to get it back!  I'd thought 'kicker' was what I needed, but that 
is installed fine. 

How do I fix this?  (Related question: where are the debugging/logging 
files for KDE3?) 

- 
SECONDARY QUESTION(s): 

Upon bootup, when KDM presents the login screen it places the name 
of a nonexistent user ('pgd' or something) into the 'login' box. 

Also, the title is German, Valkommem till Linux pa sandra.
(Hmmm, the packager/compiler had a German locale, and I am missing
having an English locale?) 

-- 
MINOR QUESTION: 

sandra:~# dpkg --get-selections *kde* 
kde purge 
kdebase install 
kdebase-audiolibs   purge 
kdebase-bin install 
kdebase-datainstall 
kdebase-dev install 
kdebase-doc purge 
kdebase-libspurge 
kdebugdialoginstall 
kdelibs3purge 
kdelibs3-binpurge 
kdelibs3-docpurge 
kdelibs4install 
kdelibs4-bininstall 
kdelibs4-data   install 
kdepasswd   purge 
kdepim-libs install 
kdeprintinstall 
kdesktopinstall 
kdewallpapers   purge 
libkdenetwork1  purge 
sandra:~# 


Is there a way to get 'dpkg' to forget that (for example) kdelibs3 
was ever installed?  I can be mistake prone, so anything I can do to 
'cleanup' is extremely helpful. (i.e. I don't want the 'kdelibs3'
line to appear in the output.)

Side question:  KDE3 doesn't have a 'kde3' or 'kde' package?  (I 
tried to find/install, but no go.)  

Sneaky question: Does this 'dpkg' output show that my prior problems
might be due to a missing package(s)?

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FINAL QUESTION:

Any pointers to further FAQs, manuals, or web sites which would have
helped me answer these questions myself?

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Thank you all very much for any help.

--Tom







Re: Help with KDE3 Please

2002-10-03 Thread Sami Lempinen
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 04:06:43PM +1000, Tom wrote:

 Also, the title is German, Valkommem till Linux pa sandra.

It's Swedish. Cannot help you with your problem though. :(

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Re: libarts1

2002-10-03 Thread David Pashley
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On Wednesday 02 October 2002 8:34 pm, Jarno Elonen wrote:
  btw your key doesn't seem to be on the keyservers, which makes signing
  messages a lot less useful. You may want to do:
  gpg --keyserver the.earth.li --send-key E5FA70BF

 btw2: is there some way to configure KDE/Kmail to automatically look-up
 keys of signed messages?

 - Jarno

Yes. Add the folling line to ~/.gnupg/options:

keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve

You may not want to until KDE3.1 due to a bug in kmail which means that gpg 
recalculates the trustdb every time you import a new key into your keyring, 
and kmail takes 50% of the processor time polling the gpg process. This has 
been fixed in KDE3.1 aiui. 

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Re: KDE 3.1b2 Dependency Problems!

2002-10-03 Thread David Pashley
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On Wednesday 02 October 2002 11:57 pm, Richard Shaw wrote:
 Look for sections like the following:
  Preparing to replace kaddressbook 4:3.0.7.cvs20020824-1 (using
  .../kaddressbook_4%3a3.0.8.cvs20020930-1.2_i386.deb) ...
  Unpacking replacement kaddressbook ...
  dpkg: error processing
  /var/cache/apt/archives/kaddressbook_4%3a3.0.8.cvs20020930-1.2_i386.deb
  (--unpack):
   trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/libkaddressbookpart.la', which is
  also in package kpilot
  dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)

 Then 'cd /var/cache/apt/archives/' and 'dpkg --force-all -i
 package_name' Do that for each package that has problems like the one
 above. Then 'apt-get -f install', to fix everything up and continue
 again with the upgrade. It will necessary to do this for every upgrade
 until the packages are all perfectly sorted in this respect.

 Richard

** WARNING ***
*NEVER USE --force-all WITH EXPERIMENTAL DEBS*

Some of you may remember some 3.0.0 betas which had /usr/sbin as a file.

The correct fix is:

stop X and log in to a console

apt-get --purge remove kdelibs4
apt-get --purge remove libarts1
apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase kdenetwork

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Kmail and gpg

2002-10-03 Thread José Manuel Pérez
Hi all.

I've got KDE 3.0.3 and gnupg 0.13-3 from Debian unstable. I've generated my 
keys and configure kmail (1.4.3) in order to use gpg, but it never signs nor 
encripts my messages.

Someone knows what can I do? I don't get any error/warning message about it, 
and I know gpg works ok.

Thanks in advance,
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Bug for korganizer with kde beta2

2002-10-03 Thread Jesus Climent

Just installed kde beta2 on an unstable machine. 

So far it works ok, but korganizer misses libkcalsystem.so

it is provided as a link by kdepim-dev, but cannot find it inside the
debs.

J

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Re: Kmail and gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Tom Badran
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On Thursday 03 Oct 2002 10:30 am, José Manuel Pérez wrote:
 Hi all.

 I've got KDE 3.0.3 and gnupg 0.13-3 from Debian unstable. I've generated my
 keys and configure kmail (1.4.3) in order to use gpg, but it never signs
 nor encripts my messages.

 Someone knows what can I do? I don't get any error/warning message about
 it, and I know gpg works ok.

When composing you need to press either the sign or encrypt button in the 
toolbar. You can also set it to do this automatically in the options.

Tom

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Re: Kmail and gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2002 11:30 schrieb José Manuel Pérez:
 Hi all.

 I've got KDE 3.0.3 and gnupg 0.13-3 from Debian unstable. I've generated my
 
Huh:
ii  gnupg  1.0.7-2GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement.
is in testing.

 keys and configure kmail (1.4.3) in order to use gpg, but it never signs
 nor encripts my messages.

In the different Profiles, there is a field for the key to use.

HS
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Re: Help with KDE3 Please

2002-10-03 Thread Malte Cornils
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 10:20:27AM +0300, Sami Lempinen wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 04:06:43PM +1000, Tom wrote:
 
  Also, the title is German, Valkommem till Linux pa sandra.
 
 It's Swedish. Cannot help you with your problem though. :(

You can fix that one manually in /etc/kde3/kdmrc...

-Malte #8-)




Re: Bug for korganizer with kde beta2

2002-10-03 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
torsdagen den 3 oktober 2002 12.50 skrev Jesus Climent:
 Just installed kde beta2 on an unstable machine.

 So far it works ok, but korganizer misses libkcalsystem.so

 it is provided as a link by kdepim-dev, but cannot find it inside the
 debs.

I have gone the whole of KDE and have found that there  is not a single 
library that can't be dynamically loaded, and thus need the .la file. So 
every single .la file should go out of the development libraries and into the 
main libraries, since even though the library is not called by an existing 
application today, since it is callable, it can happen tomorrow.

I am rebuilding the packages.

-- Karolina




kapptemplate should conflict with kdelibs4-dev

2002-10-03 Thread Ilkka Poutanen
Package: kapptemplate
Version: 2.2.2-7
Severity: wishlist

kapptemplate fails to create compilable code when using kdelibs4-dev
version 4:3.0.3a-1. Kdelibs4-dev provides kdelibs-dev that
kapptemplate depends on, but this configuration obviously doesn't
work. Freshly created app templates with default settings fail to
compile with invalid use of undefined type `class KStatusBar':

c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/kde -I/usr/include/qt 
-I/usr/X11R6/include -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new  -c kmyapp.cpp
kmyapp.cpp: In method `KMyApp::KMyApp()':
kmyapp.cpp:48: invalid use of undefined type `class KStatusBar'
/usr/include/kde/kmainwindow.h:35: forward declaration of `class KStatusBar'
kmyapp.cpp: In method `void KMyApp::optionsShowStatusbar()':
kmyapp.cpp:237: invalid use of undefined type `class KStatusBar'
/usr/include/kde/kmainwindow.h:35: forward declaration of `class KStatusBar'
kmyapp.cpp:239: invalid use of undefined type `class KStatusBar'
/usr/include/kde/kmainwindow.h:35: forward declaration of `class KStatusBar'
kmyapp.cpp: In method `void KMyApp::changeStatusbar(const QString )':
kmyapp.cpp:271: invalid use of undefined type `class KStatusBar'
/usr/include/kde/kmainwindow.h:35: forward declaration of `class KStatusBar'

From information elsewhere on the net I deduced that these errors
appeared because I was using kdelibs4-dev (providing kdelibs-dev)
instead of the real kdelibs-dev. However I have _not_ actually
exhaustively tested this.

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Re: Kmail and gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Ben Burton
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 so you have to do
 gpg --edit-key email-address
 Command sign
 Command trust
 Command save

No!  You should only ever sign a key if you can be sure the key belongs to the 
person who claims to own it.  This generally means you have received the key 
(or its fingerprint) through a non-electronic medium - such as in person on a 
slip of paper - and you have verified the identify of its owner, such as by 
checking a drivers' license or passport.

The whole point of key signing is to get around the problem of verifying whose 
keys are whose, which is the weakest point of this particular cryptographic 
system.

Please read the GnuPG docs (package gnupg-doc) for details.  In particular, 
you should read through section 3.6 of the mini-HOWTO (the section on key 
signing).

Ben.

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Re: kapptemplate should conflict with kdelibs4-dev

2002-10-03 Thread Ben Burton
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 Package: kapptemplate
 Version: 2.2.2-7

Ah, okay.

I'm not going to add this conflict, since that particular version of 
kapptemplate is the KDE2 version on the debian servers; the debian servers 
don't even know what kdelibs4-dev is.  There could be an argument however for 
having the KDE2 kapptemplate recommend kdelibs-dev ( 4:3.0).

Once KDE3 is uploaded to the main debian servers, this problem will go away 
magically because you will have the KDE3 version of kapptemplate and the old 
kdelibs-dev package will no longer exist. :)

Meanwhile you should add the apt-line providing kdesdk for KDE3 (as well as 
koffice and other things); this will get you the newer kapptemplate that 
works with kdelibs4-dev.

deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./

Ben.

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Re: Kmail and gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:17, Ben Burton wrote:
  so you have to do
  gpg --edit-key email-address
  Command sign
  Command trust
  Command save

 No!  You should only ever sign a key if you can be sure the key belongs to
 the person who claims to own it.  This generally means you have received
 the key (or its fingerprint) through a non-electronic medium - such as in
 person on a slip of paper - and you have verified the identify of its
 owner, such as by checking a drivers' license or passport.

I was under the impression that the original message was about your own key, 
which you should sign (keys that aren't self-signed are worthless).  
Presumably you don't need to look at your own drivers' license.

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Re: Kmail and gpg

2002-10-03 Thread David Pashley
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On Thursday 03 October 2002 1:19 pm, bruno randolf wrote:
 i'm not sure if this is the problem in your case, but kmail only encrypts
 to keys which are signed and trusted.

 so you have to do
 gpg --edit-key email-address

 and then:
 Command sign
 ...
 Command trust
 ...
 Command save

 after that you are able to select the key when you encrypt a message.

 br1

 On Thursday 03 October 2002 11:30, José Manuel Pérez wrote:
  Hi all.
 
  I've got KDE 3.0.3 and gnupg 0.13-3 from Debian unstable. I've generated
  my keys and configure kmail (1.4.3) in order to use gpg, but it never
  signs nor encripts my messages.
 
  Someone knows what can I do? I don't get any error/warning message about
  it, and I know gpg works ok.
 
  Thanks in advance,

/me has found another person to not trust

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Re: Kmail and gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Jos Manuel Prez
El Jue 03 Oct 2002 13:16, Hendrik Sattler escribió:
 Am Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2002 11:30 schrieb José Manuel Pérez:
  Hi all.
 
  I've got KDE 3.0.3 and gnupg 0.13-3 from Debian unstable. I've generated
  my

  
 Huh:
 ii  gnupg  1.0.7-2GNU privacy guard - a free PGP
 replacement. is in testing.

Sorry, I'm wrong, I've got  in unstable ...

ii  gnupg  1.2.0-1GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement.


  keys and configure kmail (1.4.3) in order to use gpg, but it never signs
  nor encripts my messages.

 In the different Profiles, there is a field for the key to use.

That's right. It was my mistake, I should read ALL fields in profile setup. 
There is one to setup this stuff.

Thanks you to everybody who send me comments. Now I can sign/encrypt my mails.

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Re: Kmail and gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Ben Burton

 I was under the impression that the original message was about your own
 key, which you should sign (keys that aren't self-signed are worthless).
 Presumably you don't need to look at your own drivers' license.

Sure, but the message I quoted was regarding encryption which is generally 
(though not always) about other people's keys.

Ben.

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Re: Kmail and gpg

2002-10-03 Thread David Pashley
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On Thursday 03 October 2002 2:40 pm, Russell Coker wrote:
 On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:17, Ben Burton wrote:
   so you have to do
   gpg --edit-key email-address
   Command sign
   Command trust
   Command save
 
  No!  You should only ever sign a key if you can be sure the key belongs
  to the person who claims to own it.  This generally means you have
  received the key (or its fingerprint) through a non-electronic medium -
  such as in person on a slip of paper - and you have verified the identify
  of its owner, such as by checking a drivers' license or passport.

 I was under the impression that the original message was about your own
 key, which you should sign (keys that aren't self-signed are worthless).
 Presumably you don't need to look at your own drivers' license.


GPG changed recently in that it stopped ultimately trusting any key for which 
you have a private key. This means you have to edit your key and trust 
yourself. I would be surpised if someone had managed to create a key which 
hadn't been self-signed.

However, that said, I was under the impression that the email bab followed up 
to was advocating signing keys willy nilly. Certianly how I read it.

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Re: Kmail and gpg

2002-10-03 Thread David Pashley
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On Thursday 03 October 2002 2:50 pm, David Pashley wrote:
 On Thursday 03 October 2002 1:19 pm, bruno randolf wrote:
  i'm not sure if this is the problem in your case, but kmail only encrypts
  to keys which are signed and trusted.
 
  so you have to do
  gpg --edit-key email-address
 
  and then:
  Command sign
  ...
  Command trust
  ...
  Command save
 
  after that you are able to select the key when you encrypt a message.
 
[snip]

 /me has found another person to not trust


david david% gpg --edit-key E5FA70BF

pub  1024D/E5FA70BF  created: 2002-06-14 expires: never  trust: -/-
sub  2048g/6C0F3248  created: 2002-06-14 expires: never
(1). Bruno Randolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Command trust
pub  1024D/E5FA70BF  created: 2002-06-14 expires: never  trust: -/-
sub  2048g/6C0F3248  created: 2002-06-14 expires: never
(1). Bruno Randolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please decide how far you trust this user to correctly
verify other users' keys (by looking at passports,
checking fingerprints from different sources...)?

 1 = Don't know
 2 = I do NOT trust
 3 = I trust marginally
 4 = I trust fully
 5 = I trust ultimately
 m = back to the main menu

Your decision? 2

pub  1024D/E5FA70BF  created: 2002-06-14 expires: never  trust: n/-
sub  2048g/6C0F3248  created: 2002-06-14 expires: never
(1). Bruno Randolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please note that the shown key validity is not necessarily correct
unless you restart the program.

Command quit


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Re: Help with KDE3 Please (kicker panel, pgd login and Välkommen )

2002-10-03 Thread Michael Hoodes
Tom, 

I'll try and help with a few of your questions, however please
don't try and evaluate Debian on the strength of KDE 3.1 Beta
or Unstable.  I do run Unstable and 3.1 Beta on a seperate partion
from my Testing/KDE 3.03.  And although KDE is Beta, it is pretty
stable as is the Unstable OS but KDE 3.1 Beta does have some problems.
(It IS a Beta!)  

 I can login in to KDE3 and run, but I don't get the menubar across 
 the bottom of the screen, so when I minimize a window, I don't know 
 how to get it back!  I'd thought 'kicker' was what I needed, but that 
 is installed fine.

kcontrol is broken ... you can try finding the appropriate settings in 
the kd...rc files, but kicker panel was hard for me to find also!  The 
default settings for that are to not display.  To fix that, run  
kcmshell panel from a command line.  Change the Position as desired but 
most importantly change  the Length from 0% to 100%.  From memory I had 
found a way to display  that from a menu but I can't find that now!!!   
Once you have the  taskbar defined, you can get to that thru the K 
menu. 

 Your secondary question was about Välkommen

That is the greeting that was left by the Swedish packager (Karolina 
Lindqvist - to be thanked for the 3.1 debs) and pgd is part of the 
login.  As far as Välkommen I'm  saving this for future KDM logins - 
It's a bit nicer than my English  Welcome!   As far as pgd ... you can 
define that from the kcontrol panel - login manager but since that 
doesn't work change the DefaultUser=pgd  in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc  to 
the DefaultUser=yourid that is desired for login. 

Michael 




qt designer and mysql

2002-10-03 Thread Earl F Hampton
I'm trying to use the database from qt designer. It will not connect to the 
database. I get: 

Could not connect to database. 
Please ensure that the database server is running and that all the connection 
information is correct.
[Driver not loader
Driver not loaded]

I get the same message no matter what I leave out in the connection info.

I can connect to the database useing a bunch of other clients tora, mysql, 
mysql-navigator,GtkSql ...

I've got qt3-dev and libqt3-mysql installed. I'm running woody.

Any help or ideas would be welcome.
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How to upgrade from kde2 to kde3

2002-10-03 Thread suresh kumar sharma
hi,
I have a debian 2.2 / woody with kde2 running on my
latop , I want to upgrade it to the latest realease of
kde.
How can I do that ??
thanks in advance.
suresh


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Re: Help with KDE3 Please (kicker panel, pgd login and Välkommen )

2002-10-03 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
torsdagen den 3 oktober 2002 19.11 skrev Michael Hoodes:

 That is the greeting that was left by the Swedish packager (Karolina
 Lindqvist - to be thanked for the 3.1 debs) and pgd is part of the
 login.  As far as Välkommen I'm  saving this for future KDM logins -
 It's a bit nicer than my English  Welcome!   As far as pgd ... you can
 define that from the kcontrol panel - login manager but since that
 doesn't work change the DefaultUser=pgd  in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc  to
 the DefaultUser=yourid that is desired for login.

I have found that problem. It is a small program that automatically generates 
the kdmrc file based on the current system. The only problem is that the 
program is run when I make the packages, not when the packages are installed.

I am fixing that for future revisions.

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Re: Kmail and gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:15, David Pashley wrote:
 trust yourself. I would be surpised if someone had managed to create a key
 which hadn't been self-signed.

They do that all the time.  Just recently I went to a key-signing party and 
one of the people there hadn't self-signed their key.  I'm surprised that I 
was the only person to point it out to them...

 However, that said, I was under the impression that the email bab followed
 up to was advocating signing keys willy nilly. Certianly how I read it.

It wasn't as clear as it should have been.

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RE: How to upgrade from kde2 to kde3

2002-10-03 Thread Joyce, Matthew
These links maybe of interest too.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2002/debian-kde-200209/msg00133.html
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/

Certainly I followed the instructions in the second link, in the General
section, and it worked for me.

Matthew Joyce



-Original Message-
From: David Pastern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 4 October 2002 9:37 AM
To: 'suresh kumar sharma'
Cc: 'debian-kde@lists.debian.org'; 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
Subject: RE: How to upgrade from kde2 to kde3


Suresh,

That's a huge task I found.  But worth it.  I'm not really the best person
technically to help you with this, but...i'd be disrepectful to the kind
others on this list that helped me get kde3 working on my system.  So i'll
give it a bash - pun intended(bash = aussie slang for 'give it a try).

1.  Firstly edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file to include the line:

deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody ./ 

Make sure you do it exactly like that.  Also, if you have multiple CD lines
in there, i'd comment them out using your favourite editor.  Just put a # in
front of the lines starting with deb cdrom...

2.  Then remove kde 2.2 from your system.  Firstly, to check what packages
are on your system try this:

dpkg -l | grep 2.2.2

Note that *not* everything with the output of this command will be for kde -
it looks for 2.2.2.  95% was for me though.  

Try this command to remove the current kde on your system:

apt-get --remove purge libarts kde*

It mostly worked for me, leaving a few left other kde files.  I don't know
if that will work for you or not.  Each system is inherently different.  At
this point i'd run the dpkg -l | grep 2.2.2 command again at a term to see
*what is left*.  I had several files left to remove and Thomas Schoepf from
the KDE user lists kindly made up a shell script to help me remove the rest
of the files (I wasn't totally sure what could go and what should stay).
I've attached the shell script to this email, i'd *strongly* suggest reading
the shell script' contents and comparing that to what packages for kde you
might have left on your system (and obviously editing the shell script to
suit your needs).  Please note that with the shell script attached you will
need to:

chmod u+x 

and then run it as

./purge202.sh

(just in case you didn't know that - i'd rather give *too* much information
than not enough)

Hopefully after this, all kde 2.2.2 files will have been removed from your
system.  We can now try to update to kde 3.0.3.  Please note that with
Thomas' .debs you will not need to go down the testing/unstable route.  You
can keep the default setting of stable for woody, and there will be no need
to create a /etc/apt/preferences file or pinning etc.  Please also note that
QT is included with Thomas' kde packages, so no need to have that (qt 3) on
your system.  I'm not sure what the outcome would be if you have already
installed qt on your system.  

3.  We can now and try to upgrade to kde 3.0.3.  Try this command at the
command line please.

apt-get update

Once that is done we can try:

apt-get -d dist-upgrade

Now I found that this didn't work for me...so Thomas suggested using dselect
to do the job.  And I switched to dselect.  This is the instructions Thomas
gave to me on using dselect:

1. start dselect (obvious)
2. select [A]ccess and verify that apt is selected. (Pressing X exits
that screen again, losing changes) 3. Run [U]pdate. If the .debs are still
in /var/cache/apt/archives, apt will not download them again. If there are
errors, please show them to me. 4. Choose [S]elect (pressing the Space key
will get you out of the help screen, but that's described in the help
itself, of course :) ) 5. Hit Enter. If there are any dependency problems,
dselect will show a screen telling you that (hit Space again to get out).
Now you should see the missing/conflicting dependencies that dselect
complains about. (Pressing - marks a package for removal, + for
install). And watch closely for the packages dselect wants to remove.
Sometimes, it's not very smart and tries to remove libc6 which usually is
not a good idea, but I don't expect that to happen here. Hitting enter
again, will accept the changes (or show the same procedure again, if there
is still something wrong) 6. Run [I]nstall and apt should download the
remaining packages and install/remove all pending packages.

Please note that as Thomas pointed out to me:

When selecting packages + and * do the same.  dselect always shows that
*

Now at this point I had problems downloading files - i'd get a size mismatch
error.  I'm not sure why, neither is Thomas.  Anyways...Thomas advised me to
check the cache for apt.  That is in:

/var/cache/apt/archives

and also

/var/cache/apt/archives/partial

Thomas advised me that sometimes the .debs in the partial sub dir could be
corrupted and it would be best to remove them.  So i'd manually go in there
and remove them and try doing the dselect process again.  

kde3, xinerama, and xfs (x font server)

2002-10-03 Thread Rupa Schomaker
Problem: Dual Head setup using Xinerama.

Additional system specs:

Dell Precision 420
Dual P3 1Ghz
1G Ram
ATI Radeon 7500 (2x 1600x1200)

So, I upgrade to kde3.0.3 using the kd3.org link and restart kdm.
When I login, things seem to start up but the kicker quickly stops
responding (locks up).

If I remove my .kde dir the preferences window that starts the first
time exhibits the same behavior.

Some searching on google found a message about disabling xfs to work
around it.  Sure enough, commenting out the option in the X config
file allows me to use kde but now my fonts are not what they were
(Emacs uses a wider font, Mozilla doens't feel right).

Thoughts?

-- 
-rupa