KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade

2016-06-05 Thread Allen James
Dear maintainers,

I use Debian Testing. Before today, my previous dist-upgrade was on May 28, at
which points all packages were up to date and KDE 5.4 was running smoothly.
Today (June 5) I again dist-upgrade my laptop and now KDE is very broken.

The following is a list of many of the KDE-related packages upgraded today
(others not related to KDE/Qt/KF5/etc were removed to the best of my ability):

kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data kde-config-cron kde-config-sddm 
kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kded5 kdenetwork-filesharing kdesdk-scripts 
kdesdk-thumbnailers kdevelop kdevelop-data kdevplatform8-libs libreoffice-kde 
python-kde4 qml-module-org-kde-draganddrop qml-module-org-kde-extensionplugin 
qml-module-org-kde-games-core qml-module-org-kde-kcoreaddons 
qml-module-org-kde-kio qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols 
qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrolsaddons qml-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem 
baloo-kf5  kdegames-card-data-kf5  libkf5activities5  libkf5baloo5  
libkf5balooengine5  libkf5baloowidgets-bin  libkf5baloowidgets5  
libkf5bookmarks-data  libkf5bookmarks5  libkf5completion-data  libkf5completion5
libkf5config-bin  libkf5config-data  libkf5configcore5  libkf5configgui5  
libkf5configwidgets-data  libkf5configwidgets5  libkf5declarative-data  
libkf5declarative5  libkf5emoticons-bin  libkf5emoticons-data  libkf5emoticons5 
libkf5globalaccel-bin  libkf5globalaccel-data  libkf5globalaccel5 
libkf5globalaccelprivate5 libkf5iconthemes-bin libkf5iconthemes-data 
libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5kcmutils-data libkf5kcmutils5 libkf5kdegamesprivate1 
libkf5kdelibs4support-data libkf5kdelibs4support5 libkf5khtml-bin 
libkf5khtml-data libkf5khtml5 libkf5kiocore5 libkf5kiofilewidgets5 
libkf5kiontlm5 libkf5kiowidgets5 libkf5krosscore5 libkf5krossui5 
libkf5newstuff-data libkf5newstuff5 libkf5notifications-data 
libkf5notifications5 libkf5notifyconfig-data libkf5notifyconfig5 
libkf5package-data libkf5package5 libkf5parts-data libkf5parts-plugins 
libkf5parts5 libkf5people-data libkf5people5 libkf5peoplebackend5 
libkf5peoplewidgets5 libkf5quickaddons5 libkf5service-bin libkf5service-data 
libkf5service5 libkf5style5 libkf5su-bin libkf5su-data libkf5su5 
libkf5sysguard-bin libkf5sysguard-data libkf5texteditor5 libkf5textwidgets-data 
libkf5textwidgets5 libkf5wallet-bin libkf5wallet-data libkf5wallet5 
libkf5webkit5 libkf5xmlgui-bin libkf5xmlgui-data libkf5xmlgui5 
libkf5xmlrpcclient-data libkf5xmlrpcclient5 qtdeclarative5-kf5declarative 
plasma-pa libpoppler-qt4-4 libpoppler-qt5-1 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative 
libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support 
libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite 
libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtcore4 libqtdbus4 
libqtgui4 python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus python-qt4-sql python3-pyqt4 qtcore4-l10n 
frameworkintegration

After the dist-upgrade I ran apt-get autoremove as I usually do. The following
packages were listed. It seemed strange but I went ahead anyway:

The following packages will be REMOVED: 
accountsservice bluedevil breeze breeze-cursor-theme breeze-icon-theme 
fonts-oxygen ieee-data kde-config-sddm kde-style-breeze kde-style-breeze-qt4 
kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kde-style-qtcurve-qt4 kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 khotkeys 
khotkeys-data kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksysguard ksysguard-data ksysguardd 
kwin-style-breeze kwin-wayland kwin-wayland-backend-drm kwrited 
libaccountsservice0 libanalitza5abi1 libanalitzagui5abi1 libanalitzaplot5abi1 
libappstreamqt1 libavcodec-ffmpeg56 libavformat-ffmpeg56 libavresample-ffmpeg2 
libavutil-ffmpeg54 libcolamd2.9.1 libgif4 libkf5activitiesexperimentalstats1 
libkf5bluezqt-data libkf5bluezqt6 libkf5emoticons-bin libkf5emoticons-data 
libkf5emoticons5 libkf5kdegames6 libkf5people-data libkf5people5 
libkf5peoplebackend5 libkf5peoplewidgets5 libkf5style5 libkf5sysguard-bin 
libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libksignalplotter7 libokularcore6 
liboxygenstyle5-5 liboxygenstyleconfig5-5 libpackagekitqt5-0 libpoppler57 
libpostproc-ffmpeg53 libpowerdevilcore2 libpowerdevilui5 libqtcurve-utils2 
libquvi-scripts libquvi7 libsuitesparseconfig4.4.6 libswresample-ffmpeg1 
libswscale-ffmpeg3 libxcb-record0 muon-discover muon-notifier muon-updater 
oxygen-sounds plasma-desktop-data plasma-discover plasma-discover-common 
plasma-discover-private plasma-discover-updater powerdevil powerdevil-data 
python3-pycurl python3-pyqt5 python3-software-properties 
qml-module-org-kde-bluezqt qml-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel 
qml-module-qt-labs-settings qml-module-qtquick-controls-styles-breeze 
qtdeclarative5-kf5declarative sni-qt software-properties-common 
software-properties-kde systemsettings unattended-upgrades user-manager
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 92 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
After this operation, 198 MB disk space will be freed.

Now, after reboot, Plasma does not start ("Plasma Cannot Start. All shell
packages missing."), I cannot connect to the internet, there is no krunner, etc,
basically

Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade

2016-06-05 Thread Luc Castermans
I did safe-upgrade yesterday, from sid. All works nicely. Many others
reported such also here. I suggest you carefully check if required packages
are installed.

Luc
Op 6 jun. 2016 04:59 schreef "Allen James" :

> Dear maintainers,
>
> I use Debian Testing. Before today, my previous dist-upgrade was on May
> 28, at
> which points all packages were up to date and KDE 5.4 was running smoothly.
> Today (June 5) I again dist-upgrade my laptop and now KDE is very broken.
>
> The following is a list of many of the KDE-related packages upgraded today
> (others not related to KDE/Qt/KF5/etc were removed to the best of my
> ability):
>
> kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data kde-config-cron kde-config-sddm
> kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kded5 kdenetwork-filesharing kdesdk-scripts
> kdesdk-thumbnailers kdevelop kdevelop-data kdevplatform8-libs
> libreoffice-kde
> python-kde4 qml-module-org-kde-draganddrop
> qml-module-org-kde-extensionplugin
> qml-module-org-kde-games-core qml-module-org-kde-kcoreaddons
> qml-module-org-kde-kio qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols
> qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrolsaddons qml-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem
> baloo-kf5  kdegames-card-data-kf5  libkf5activities5  libkf5baloo5
> libkf5balooengine5  libkf5baloowidgets-bin  libkf5baloowidgets5
> libkf5bookmarks-data  libkf5bookmarks5  libkf5completion-data
> libkf5completion5
> libkf5config-bin  libkf5config-data  libkf5configcore5  libkf5configgui5
> libkf5configwidgets-data  libkf5configwidgets5  libkf5declarative-data
> libkf5declarative5  libkf5emoticons-bin  libkf5emoticons-data
> libkf5emoticons5
> libkf5globalaccel-bin  libkf5globalaccel-data  libkf5globalaccel5
> libkf5globalaccelprivate5 libkf5iconthemes-bin libkf5iconthemes-data
> libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5kcmutils-data libkf5kcmutils5
> libkf5kdegamesprivate1
> libkf5kdelibs4support-data libkf5kdelibs4support5 libkf5khtml-bin
> libkf5khtml-data libkf5khtml5 libkf5kiocore5 libkf5kiofilewidgets5
> libkf5kiontlm5 libkf5kiowidgets5 libkf5krosscore5 libkf5krossui5
> libkf5newstuff-data libkf5newstuff5 libkf5notifications-data
> libkf5notifications5 libkf5notifyconfig-data libkf5notifyconfig5
> libkf5package-data libkf5package5 libkf5parts-data libkf5parts-plugins
> libkf5parts5 libkf5people-data libkf5people5 libkf5peoplebackend5
> libkf5peoplewidgets5 libkf5quickaddons5 libkf5service-bin
> libkf5service-data
> libkf5service5 libkf5style5 libkf5su-bin libkf5su-data libkf5su5
> libkf5sysguard-bin libkf5sysguard-data libkf5texteditor5
> libkf5textwidgets-data
> libkf5textwidgets5 libkf5wallet-bin libkf5wallet-data libkf5wallet5
> libkf5webkit5 libkf5xmlgui-bin libkf5xmlgui-data libkf5xmlgui5
> libkf5xmlrpcclient-data libkf5xmlrpcclient5 qtdeclarative5-kf5declarative
> plasma-pa libpoppler-qt4-4 libpoppler-qt5-1 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative
> libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support
> libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql
> libqt4-sql-sqlite
> libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtcore4 libqtdbus4
> libqtgui4 python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus python-qt4-sql python3-pyqt4
> qtcore4-l10n
> frameworkintegration
>
> After the dist-upgrade I ran apt-get autoremove as I usually do. The
> following
> packages were listed. It seemed strange but I went ahead anyway:
>
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> accountsservice bluedevil breeze breeze-cursor-theme breeze-icon-theme
> fonts-oxygen ieee-data kde-config-sddm kde-style-breeze
> kde-style-breeze-qt4
> kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kde-style-qtcurve-qt4 kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 khotkeys
> khotkeys-data kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksysguard ksysguard-data
> ksysguardd
> kwin-style-breeze kwin-wayland kwin-wayland-backend-drm kwrited
> libaccountsservice0 libanalitza5abi1 libanalitzagui5abi1
> libanalitzaplot5abi1
> libappstreamqt1 libavcodec-ffmpeg56 libavformat-ffmpeg56
> libavresample-ffmpeg2
> libavutil-ffmpeg54 libcolamd2.9.1 libgif4
> libkf5activitiesexperimentalstats1
> libkf5bluezqt-data libkf5bluezqt6 libkf5emoticons-bin libkf5emoticons-data
> libkf5emoticons5 libkf5kdegames6 libkf5people-data libkf5people5
> libkf5peoplebackend5 libkf5peoplewidgets5 libkf5style5 libkf5sysguard-bin
> libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libksignalplotter7 libokularcore6
> liboxygenstyle5-5 liboxygenstyleconfig5-5 libpackagekitqt5-0 libpoppler57
> libpostproc-ffmpeg53 libpowerdevilcore2 libpowerdevilui5 libqtcurve-utils2
> libquvi-scripts libquvi7 libsuitesparseconfig4.4.6 libswresample-ffmpeg1
> libswscale-ffmpeg3 libxcb-record0 muon-discover muon-notifier muon-updater
> oxygen-sounds plasma-desktop-data plasma-discover plasma-discover-common
> plasma-discover-private plasma-discover-updater powerdevil powerdevil-data
> python3-pycurl python3-pyqt5 python3-software-properties
> qml-module-org-kde-bluezqt qml-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel
> qml-module-qt-labs-settings qml-module-qtquick-controls-styles-breeze
> qtdeclarative5-kf5declarative sni-qt software-properties-common
> software-properties-kde systemset

Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade

2016-06-05 Thread Luc Castermans
In your list I spotted sddm package to be removed. You better install this
first, as this provides the login manager. Luc
Op 6 jun. 2016 07:15 schreef "Luc Castermans" :

> I did safe-upgrade yesterday, from sid. All works nicely. Many others
> reported such also here. I suggest you carefully check if required packages
> are installed.
>
> Luc
> Op 6 jun. 2016 04:59 schreef "Allen James" :
>
>> Dear maintainers,
>>
>> I use Debian Testing. Before today, my previous dist-upgrade was on May
>> 28, at
>> which points all packages were up to date and KDE 5.4 was running
>> smoothly.
>> Today (June 5) I again dist-upgrade my laptop and now KDE is very broken.
>>
>> The following is a list of many of the KDE-related packages upgraded today
>> (others not related to KDE/Qt/KF5/etc were removed to the best of my
>> ability):
>>
>> kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data kde-config-cron kde-config-sddm
>> kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kded5 kdenetwork-filesharing kdesdk-scripts
>> kdesdk-thumbnailers kdevelop kdevelop-data kdevplatform8-libs
>> libreoffice-kde
>> python-kde4 qml-module-org-kde-draganddrop
>> qml-module-org-kde-extensionplugin
>> qml-module-org-kde-games-core qml-module-org-kde-kcoreaddons
>> qml-module-org-kde-kio qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols
>> qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrolsaddons qml-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem
>> baloo-kf5  kdegames-card-data-kf5  libkf5activities5  libkf5baloo5
>> libkf5balooengine5  libkf5baloowidgets-bin  libkf5baloowidgets5
>> libkf5bookmarks-data  libkf5bookmarks5  libkf5completion-data
>> libkf5completion5
>> libkf5config-bin  libkf5config-data  libkf5configcore5  libkf5configgui5
>> libkf5configwidgets-data  libkf5configwidgets5  libkf5declarative-data
>> libkf5declarative5  libkf5emoticons-bin  libkf5emoticons-data
>> libkf5emoticons5
>> libkf5globalaccel-bin  libkf5globalaccel-data  libkf5globalaccel5
>> libkf5globalaccelprivate5 libkf5iconthemes-bin libkf5iconthemes-data
>> libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5kcmutils-data libkf5kcmutils5
>> libkf5kdegamesprivate1
>> libkf5kdelibs4support-data libkf5kdelibs4support5 libkf5khtml-bin
>> libkf5khtml-data libkf5khtml5 libkf5kiocore5 libkf5kiofilewidgets5
>> libkf5kiontlm5 libkf5kiowidgets5 libkf5krosscore5 libkf5krossui5
>> libkf5newstuff-data libkf5newstuff5 libkf5notifications-data
>> libkf5notifications5 libkf5notifyconfig-data libkf5notifyconfig5
>> libkf5package-data libkf5package5 libkf5parts-data libkf5parts-plugins
>> libkf5parts5 libkf5people-data libkf5people5 libkf5peoplebackend5
>> libkf5peoplewidgets5 libkf5quickaddons5 libkf5service-bin
>> libkf5service-data
>> libkf5service5 libkf5style5 libkf5su-bin libkf5su-data libkf5su5
>> libkf5sysguard-bin libkf5sysguard-data libkf5texteditor5
>> libkf5textwidgets-data
>> libkf5textwidgets5 libkf5wallet-bin libkf5wallet-data libkf5wallet5
>> libkf5webkit5 libkf5xmlgui-bin libkf5xmlgui-data libkf5xmlgui5
>> libkf5xmlrpcclient-data libkf5xmlrpcclient5 qtdeclarative5-kf5declarative
>> plasma-pa libpoppler-qt4-4 libpoppler-qt5-1 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative
>> libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support
>> libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql
>> libqt4-sql-sqlite
>> libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtcore4 libqtdbus4
>> libqtgui4 python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus python-qt4-sql python3-pyqt4
>> qtcore4-l10n
>> frameworkintegration
>>
>> After the dist-upgrade I ran apt-get autoremove as I usually do. The
>> following
>> packages were listed. It seemed strange but I went ahead anyway:
>>
>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>> accountsservice bluedevil breeze breeze-cursor-theme breeze-icon-theme
>> fonts-oxygen ieee-data kde-config-sddm kde-style-breeze
>> kde-style-breeze-qt4
>> kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kde-style-qtcurve-qt4 kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 khotkeys
>> khotkeys-data kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksysguard ksysguard-data
>> ksysguardd
>> kwin-style-breeze kwin-wayland kwin-wayland-backend-drm kwrited
>> libaccountsservice0 libanalitza5abi1 libanalitzagui5abi1
>> libanalitzaplot5abi1
>> libappstreamqt1 libavcodec-ffmpeg56 libavformat-ffmpeg56
>> libavresample-ffmpeg2
>> libavutil-ffmpeg54 libcolamd2.9.1 libgif4
>> libkf5activitiesexperimentalstats1
>> libkf5bluezqt-data libkf5bluezqt6 libkf5emoticons-bin libkf5emoticons-data
>> libkf5emoticons5 libkf5kdegames6 libkf5people-data libkf5people5
>> libkf5peoplebackend5 libkf5peoplewidgets5 libkf5style5 libkf5sysguard-bin
>> libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libksignalplotter7 libokularcore6
>> liboxygenstyle5-5 liboxygenstyleconfig5-5 libpackagekitqt5-0 libpoppler57
>> libpostproc-ffmpeg53 libpowerdevilcore2 libpowerdevilui5 libqtcurve-utils2
>> libquvi-scripts libquvi7 libsuitesparseconfig4.4.6 libswresample-ffmpeg1
>> libswscale-ffmpeg3 libxcb-record0 muon-discover muon-notifier muon-updater
>> oxygen-sounds plasma-desktop-data plasma-discover plasma-discover-common
>> plasma-discover-private plasma-discover-updater powerdevil powerdevil-data
>> python3-pycurl python3-

Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade

2016-06-06 Thread Holger Schramm
Am 06.06.2016 um 04:51 schrieb Allen James:

> 
> Now, after reboot, Plasma does not start ("Plasma Cannot Start. All shell
> packages missing."), I cannot connect to the internet, there is no krunner, 
> etc,
> basically huge problems. Concerned about this because I had maintained my 
> laptop
> on Debian Testing using KDE for almost 3 years without any major issue. Is 
> there
> a way to restore what I previously had, or is there any advice regarding this?

Blindly running autoremove is not always a good idea. I run it from time
to time but not always. If disk space is a reason for running it, get a
bigger disk instead of damaging the kde ;)

First i would reinstall all autoremoved packages especially the libkf5*
ones and the sddm as mentioned before. A network connection can be
created without kde, because there should always the good old text based
shell to work with.

I am on testing and be very carefull with updating, because I use this
machine for may daily work and business. Damaging because of having the
newest kde packages is here not an option. This means I read this
mailinglist very carefully, especially the mails from martin. In
addition I wait some days or some more to be sure that there is no huge
bug killing the system. For bugreport information by installting I use
apt-listbugs, apt-listchanges. If a bug comes up when the update runs, I
discard the update and read the bugreport, to decide to update or not.

And the last bastion is a full rsync backup for restoring the whole
machine back to the last state before update. This may sound a bit
pedantic and crazy, but I you are on testing, you do never know what
shows up. And for less adrenalin use stable :)

Good luck,

-- 
Holger



Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade

2016-06-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
On Sonntag, 5. Juni 2016 19:51:08 CEST Allen James wrote:
> Dear maintainers,

Allen,

this is mostly a user support issue, maintainers can not prevent you from 
breaking the system.

Also it is no KDE catastrophe. It is a "I remove a ton of packages and expect 
things still to work" catastrophe.

> I use Debian Testing. Before today, my previous dist-upgrade was on May 28,
> at which points all packages were up to date and KDE 5.4 was running
> smoothly. Today (June 5) I again dist-upgrade my laptop and now KDE is very
> broken.
> 
> The following is a list of many of the KDE-related packages upgraded today
> (others not related to KDE/Qt/KF5/etc were removed to the best of my
> ability):
[…]
> After the dist-upgrade I ran apt-get autoremove as I usually do. The
> following packages were listed. It seemed strange but I went ahead anyway:
> 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> accountsservice bluedevil breeze breeze-cursor-theme breeze-icon-theme
> fonts-oxygen ieee-data kde-config-sddm kde-style-breeze kde-style-breeze-qt4
> kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kde-style-qtcurve-qt4 kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 khotkeys
> khotkeys-data kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksysguard ksysguard-data
> ksysguardd kwin-style-breeze kwin-wayland kwin-wayland-backend-drm kwrited

Then do not proceed if things seems strange to you. Just don´t. If apt wants 
to remove a ton of packages it may be breaking your system. Feel free to ask 
here first.

Cause you basically removed a good part of Plasma and KF with that command. 
Although I don´t see any sddm removed there, just a config module related to 
it, and I don´t see anything of the core of Plasma being removed, except maybe 
systemsettings, but that I think is optional, I think that removing the icon 
theme, the breeze theme could break things. 

If you follow Plasma 5 / KF 5 packaging development in Sid or Testing, then 
get yourself knowledgeable in package management. Things like you mention can 
happen at various states of packages being build as the order in which 
packages appear in testing is quite unpredictable in the current Debian 
development process. For that reason I have a second desktop installed. I 
choose MATE, cause that is even independent of Qt and C++, which helped a lot 
in GCC/G++ 5 transition.

I suggest you try

apt update
apt install plasma-desktop plasma-framework sddm

I think sddm didn´t get removed, but who knows. There is no "plasma-desktop" 
mentioned as being removed, yet with the packages that have been removed there 
cannot be any plasma-desktop meta package installed anymore.

Ciao,
-- 
Martin



Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade

2016-06-06 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 09:01:12AM +0200, Holger Schramm wrote:
> First i would reinstall all autoremoved packages especially the libkf5*
> ones and the sddm as mentioned before.
I don't think one should ever install library packages manually, otherwise
there are wrong dependencies listed somewhere.

-- 
WBR, wRAR


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Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade

2016-06-06 Thread Jimmy Johnson

On 06/05/2016 08:00 PM, Allen James wrote:

Dear maintainers,

I use Debian Testing. Before today, my previous dist-upgrade was on May 28, at
which points all packages were up to date and KDE 5.4 was running smoothly.
Today (June 5) I again dist-upgrade my laptop and now KDE is very broken.

The following is a list of many of the KDE-related packages upgraded today
(others not related to KDE/Qt/KF5/etc were removed to the best of my ability):




Now, after reboot, Plasma does not start ("Plasma Cannot Start. All shell
packages missing."), I cannot connect to the internet, there is no krunner, etc,
basically huge problems. Concerned about this because I had maintained my laptop
on Debian Testing using KDE for almost 3 years without any major issue. Is there
a way to restore what I previously had, or is there any advice regarding this?
snip <
Thank you.
Allen J



Hi Allen!  I don't know how long you've been running testing but for the 
time being you may find less problems by using both testing and unstable 
repos, at some point testing will become stable and then you will no 
longer need the unstable repos, but that is far away. Currently while 
using both repos, things are looking pretty good. :)

--
Jimmy Johnson
Plasma-5 - Where's my Quick-Launch?
Registered Linux User #380263



Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade

2016-06-06 Thread Jimmy Johnson

On 06/05/2016 08:00 PM, Allen James wrote:

Dear maintainers,

I use Debian Testing. Before today, my previous dist-upgrade was on May 28, at
which points all packages were up to date and KDE 5.4 was running smoothly.
Today (June 5) I again dist-upgrade my laptop and now KDE is very broken.

The following is a list of many of the KDE-related packages upgraded today
(others not related to KDE/Qt/KF5/etc were removed to the best of my ability):




Now, after reboot, Plasma does not start ("Plasma Cannot Start. All shell
packages missing."), I cannot connect to the internet, there is no krunner, etc,
basically huge problems. Concerned about this because I had maintained my laptop
on Debian Testing using KDE for almost 3 years without any major issue. Is there
a way to restore what I previously had, or is there any advice regarding this?
snip <
Thank you.
Allen J



Hi Allen!  I don't know how long you've been running testing but for the 
time being you may find less problems by using both testing and unstable 
repos, at some point testing will become stable and then you will no 
longer need the unstable repos, but that is far away. Currently while 
using both repos, things are looking pretty good. :)

--
Jimmy Johnson
Plasma-5 - Where's my Quick-Launch?
Registered Linux User #380263



Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade

2016-06-09 Thread Sander van Grieken
This morning I could upgrade testing to plasma-5.6 without apt wanting to 
uninstall essential parts.

Thanks to all involved!

Regards,
Sander

On Sunday 05 June 2016 19:51:08 Allen James wrote:
> Dear maintainers,
> 
> I use Debian Testing. Before today, my previous dist-upgrade was on May 28,
> at which points all packages were up to date and KDE 5.4 was running
> smoothly. Today (June 5) I again dist-upgrade my laptop and now KDE is very
> broken.
> 
> The following is a list of many of the KDE-related packages upgraded today
> (others not related to KDE/Qt/KF5/etc were removed to the best of my
> ability):
> 
> kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data kde-config-cron kde-config-sddm
> kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kded5 kdenetwork-filesharing kdesdk-scripts
> kdesdk-thumbnailers kdevelop kdevelop-data kdevplatform8-libs
> libreoffice-kde python-kde4 qml-module-org-kde-draganddrop
> qml-module-org-kde-extensionplugin qml-module-org-kde-games-core
> qml-module-org-kde-kcoreaddons
> qml-module-org-kde-kio qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols
> qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrolsaddons qml-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem
> baloo-kf5  kdegames-card-data-kf5  libkf5activities5  libkf5baloo5
> libkf5balooengine5  libkf5baloowidgets-bin  libkf5baloowidgets5
> libkf5bookmarks-data  libkf5bookmarks5  libkf5completion-data 
> libkf5completion5 libkf5config-bin  libkf5config-data  libkf5configcore5 
> libkf5configgui5 libkf5configwidgets-data  libkf5configwidgets5 
> libkf5declarative-data libkf5declarative5  libkf5emoticons-bin 
> libkf5emoticons-data  libkf5emoticons5 libkf5globalaccel-bin 
> libkf5globalaccel-data  libkf5globalaccel5
> libkf5globalaccelprivate5 libkf5iconthemes-bin libkf5iconthemes-data
> libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5kcmutils-data libkf5kcmutils5 libkf5kdegamesprivate1
> libkf5kdelibs4support-data libkf5kdelibs4support5 libkf5khtml-bin
> libkf5khtml-data libkf5khtml5 libkf5kiocore5 libkf5kiofilewidgets5
> libkf5kiontlm5 libkf5kiowidgets5 libkf5krosscore5 libkf5krossui5
> libkf5newstuff-data libkf5newstuff5 libkf5notifications-data
> libkf5notifications5 libkf5notifyconfig-data libkf5notifyconfig5
> libkf5package-data libkf5package5 libkf5parts-data libkf5parts-plugins
> libkf5parts5 libkf5people-data libkf5people5 libkf5peoplebackend5
> libkf5peoplewidgets5 libkf5quickaddons5 libkf5service-bin libkf5service-data
> libkf5service5 libkf5style5 libkf5su-bin libkf5su-data libkf5su5
> libkf5sysguard-bin libkf5sysguard-data libkf5texteditor5
> libkf5textwidgets-data libkf5textwidgets5 libkf5wallet-bin
> libkf5wallet-data libkf5wallet5 libkf5webkit5 libkf5xmlgui-bin
> libkf5xmlgui-data libkf5xmlgui5
> libkf5xmlrpcclient-data libkf5xmlrpcclient5 qtdeclarative5-kf5declarative
> plasma-pa libpoppler-qt4-4 libpoppler-qt5-1 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative
> libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support
> libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql
> libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns
> libqtcore4 libqtdbus4 libqtgui4 python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus python-qt4-sql
> python3-pyqt4 qtcore4-l10n frameworkintegration
> 
> After the dist-upgrade I ran apt-get autoremove as I usually do. The
> following packages were listed. It seemed strange but I went ahead anyway:
> 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> accountsservice bluedevil breeze breeze-cursor-theme breeze-icon-theme
> fonts-oxygen ieee-data kde-config-sddm kde-style-breeze kde-style-breeze-qt4
> kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kde-style-qtcurve-qt4 kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 khotkeys
> khotkeys-data kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksysguard ksysguard-data
> ksysguardd kwin-style-breeze kwin-wayland kwin-wayland-backend-drm kwrited
> libaccountsservice0 libanalitza5abi1 libanalitzagui5abi1
> libanalitzaplot5abi1 libappstreamqt1 libavcodec-ffmpeg56
> libavformat-ffmpeg56 libavresample-ffmpeg2 libavutil-ffmpeg54
> libcolamd2.9.1 libgif4 libkf5activitiesexperimentalstats1
> libkf5bluezqt-data libkf5bluezqt6 libkf5emoticons-bin libkf5emoticons-data
> libkf5emoticons5 libkf5kdegames6 libkf5people-data libkf5people5
> libkf5peoplebackend5 libkf5peoplewidgets5 libkf5style5 libkf5sysguard-bin
> libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libksignalplotter7 libokularcore6
> liboxygenstyle5-5 liboxygenstyleconfig5-5 libpackagekitqt5-0 libpoppler57
> libpostproc-ffmpeg53 libpowerdevilcore2 libpowerdevilui5 libqtcurve-utils2
> libquvi-scripts libquvi7 libsuitesparseconfig4.4.6 libswresample-ffmpeg1
> libswscale-ffmpeg3 libxcb-record0 muon-discover muon-notifier muon-updater
> oxygen-sounds plasma-desktop-data plasma-discover plasma-discover-common
> plasma-discover-private plasma-discover-updater powerdevil powerdevil-data
> python3-pycurl python3-pyqt5 python3-software-properties
> qml-module-org-kde-bluezqt qml-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel
> qml-module-qt-labs-settings qml-module-qtquick-controls-styles-breeze
> qtdeclarative5-kf5declarative sni-qt software-properties-common
> software-properties-kde systemsettings unattended-upgrades user-

Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade

2016-06-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
No need to Cc me. Thanks.

On Donnerstag, 9. Juni 2016 17:41:39 CEST you wrote:
> Martin,

Hi Allen,

> Because I had simply dist-upgrade and auto-remove without intending to
> uninstall any major components, I thought this might be an issue to address
> with the maintainers, but I understand your points.

Thing is, unintended removal of packages can happen when you upgrade at a 
point in time where an upload of related packages is only partially processed, 
compiled and made available in the archive by ftpmasters and the build 
servers.

This is a temporary issue and not anything the maintainers can do much about.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade

2016-06-09 Thread Allen James
Martin,

Because I had simply dist-upgrade and auto-remove without intending to 
uninstall any major components, I thought this might be an issue to address 
with the maintainers, but I understand your points.

Thank you very much for the advice. I did what you suggested and everything 
seems to be fixed now. In the future I will try to better understand the 
packaging system and the Debian way of doing things.

Thanks to the maintainers! I have much respect for the great work they do 
here.

Regards,

Allen James



Re: Re: KDE catastrophe after June 5 dist-upgrade

2016-06-17 Thread Allen James
Hi Holger,

Sorry this reply is a bit late but I wanted to thank you for taking the time 
to write all that out for me. I found it to be very useful. I have saved your 
advice on my disk and will refer to it in the future.

Thanks again,

Allen