Re: KDE3 CVS (yesterday) binaries for Woody available

2002-01-29 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
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On Tuesday 29 January 2002 12:59 pm, Jens Benecke wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 05:36:47PM +0100, Franz Keferboeck wrote:
  That's simply great!! Thanx you for this...

 Thanks. :)

  I already compiled kde3 on my main computer... i didn't want to
  interrupt, so I had to stay awake all night, cause my computer's in the
  same room as my bed;-)

 shudder No, one of my computers (my server) is always running anyway, so
 I just left the other on as well (workstation, more CPU power). Took me
 about 8 hours to compile all of the stuff on a 1.5GHz Athlon ... ;)

  Your Packages are great...

 Thanks!

Totally unrelated thought/question/request for input.

Over spring break, we're looking at putting together a small cluster 
here in
the shop. Athlon 850, dual P3 720, Duron 1 gig, Athlon 1 gig.
Is it possible to use a cluster like this to compile the cvs stuff??? 
or am
I having another flashback to the 60's? (we had better drugs then!!)  :--)

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Re: KDE3 CVS (yesterday) binaries for Woody available

2002-01-29 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
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On Tuesday 29 January 2002 03:00 pm, Jens Benecke wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 02:34:34PM -0800, G. L. `Griz' Inabnit wrote:
  Totally unrelated thought/question/request for input.
 
  Over spring break, we're looking at putting together a small cluster here
  in the shop. Athlon 850, dual P3 720, Duron 1 gig, Athlon 1 gig.  Is it
  possible to use a cluster like this to compile the cvs stuff??? or am I
  having another flashback to the 60's? (we had better drugs then!!)  :--)

 If you can get MOSIX (www.mosix.org) to run, this should be trivial. Mosix
 essentially makes a network of single CPU machines look like one big SMP
 machine. I could perhaps even join your cluster. :)

 But perhaps it would be easier just to share one NFS mount, compile
 qt-copy, kdesupport, kdelibs and kdebase on one machine, and then
 distribute the rest of the system on the other machines.

Well, I was just thinking that if I could get mosix up and running 
(along
with the power that it would/should allow, I could offer David or Chris
access for the 'big crunch' times. (shrug)  I'm not a programmer (any longer)
so I would like to contribute.  if I can thru pure horsepower, so much
the better. :--)

And yes, Jens, if you REALLY need to be part of my cluster (o! now
there's a lead-in!!), yer welcome to join. :--)  But first, let me GET a
cluster..

Regards, good wishes, damn .conf files anyhow!!

Griz
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Re: KDE3 CVS (yesterday) binaries for Woody available

2002-01-29 Thread Franz Keferböck
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 02:34:34PM -0800, G. L. `Griz' Inabnit wrote:
  Totally unrelated thought/question/request for input.
  
  Over spring break, we're looking at putting together a small cluster
 here
  in the shop. Athlon 850, dual P3 720, Duron 1 gig, Athlon 1 gig.  Is it
  possible to use a cluster like this to compile the cvs stuff??? or am I
  having another flashback to the 60's? (we had better drugs then!!)  :--)
 
 If you can get MOSIX (www.mosix.org) to run, this should be trivial. Mosix
 essentially makes a network of single CPU machines look like one big SMP
 machine. I could perhaps even join your cluster. :)
Me to;-)

 But perhaps it would be easier just to share one NFS mount, compile
 qt-copy, kdesupport, kdelibs and kdebase on one machine, and then
 distribute the rest of the system on the other machines.
If you start make with several threads, wouldn't it be faster do do this on
such a cluster - or would the network-overhead for the 
file-sharing make the whole thing useless? Me and some friends also consider
to build a mosix-cluster (we're all in a student's hostel) - 
althoug they won't let me in, cause the are scared that i'll missuse it
for KDE-compiling;-)


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KDE3(beta) as unofficial add-on?

2002-01-20 Thread Olaf Stetzer
Hello,

I have read the discussion about using /opt with some
amusement, my opinion is like tha majority: Stay
away from /opt for official debian packages. But:

To have a simple solution for testing kde3 beta besides kde2
wouldn't it be good to provide unofficial debs for kde3
as long as this is called beta upstream. These unofficial
packages are not part of debian and can use /opt !
This way it should be possible to have both at the same time.
When kde3 matures the packages become official and replace
the kde2 packages under/usr (if this isnt too much work changing
the prefix in all relevant packages?)

Just my 2 cent,

Olaf




Why did I suggest /usr/lib/kde3 or /opt/kde3? (Re: What are Chris and Daniel actually going to do now?)

2002-01-17 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
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On Thursday 17 January 2002 00:54, Oliver Johns wrote:
 On Fri Dec 14, 2001 Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
  With kde3 my current (and yet truely tested) approach for file layout is
  pretty much everything under /usr/share/kde /usr/lib/kde
  (and /usr/lib/kde3 for the modules) /etc/kde.

 Any chance that Chris and Daniel will hold to that?

I think my suggestion needs some clarification. What was the motivation for 
that?

The reason is that Ivan's yet untested approach will not work well when users 
want to install KDE2 and KDE3 at the same time.

In my approach, you can choose among KDE2 or KDE3 to your heart's content. 
Note that the only file conflicts will *not* happen among libraries, which is 
why you should install in a KDE prefix other than /usr. There are many files 
that conflict, from the ground up. And there is no easy solution except 
implementing my proposed approach.

For keeping multiple versions of KDE, as agreed on by hackers on #kde 
(including the knows-it-all noatun developer Charles[*]), you need to install 
them to a specific location other than /usr. That simple.

My suggestion clearly targets that. If we had only one major version of KDE 
at a time (which will never be the case), then there would be no need for 
such a change. When we have final KDE3 release, there will be a guess what: a 
development version which will bring the same problems over again.

As of now, the decision primarily interests Chris.

I ought to summarize my suggestion again:

Make a /usr/lib/kde3 hierarchy.

Under this hierarchy, move directories that do not belong there (according to 
the policy) to their appropriate locations, and symlink them in /usr/lib/kde3.

/usr/lib/kde3/include - /usr/include/kde3
/usr/lib/kde3/share - /usr/share/kde3

(install manual pages to their correct locations)

Add /usr/lib/kde3 to /etc/ld.so.conf

That's all that is needed!

Make all this with a very simple build script, and include that script in a 
generic debian kde package as before.

Also, the proposed change does not affect any KDE2 user in anyway as it 
stands, so please don't be confused by what's being discussed.

Regards,

[*] I mean it, Charles is one guy who has wisdom.

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Re: Why did I suggest /usr/lib/kde3 or /opt/kde3? (Re: What are Chris and Daniel actually going to do now?)

2002-01-17 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
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On Thursday 17 January 2002 01:24, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:

 That's all that is needed!

Something is left out. What do we do with binaries? I think binaries should 
stay in /usr/lib/kde3/bin, and linked to /usr/bin. Maybe /usr/bin/X11 would 
be an even better place. Would this be a good solution?

Thanks,

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Re: Why did I suggest /usr/lib/kde3 or /opt/kde3? (Re: What are Chris and Daniel actually going to do now?)

2002-01-17 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 03:51:27PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
 On Thursday 17 January 2002 01:24, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
 
  That's all that is needed!
 
 Something is left out. What do we do with binaries? I think binaries should 
 stay in /usr/lib/kde3/bin, and linked to /usr/bin. Maybe /usr/bin/X11 would 
 be an even better place. Would this be a good solution?

No.

Your original complaint was about cluttering the namespace. With this
solution, not only are you implementing TWO ugly hacks (the
/usr/lib/kde3 prefix and /usr/bin symlinks), but the namespace stays
cluttered.

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Re: Why did I suggest /usr/lib/kde3 or /opt/kde3? (Re: What are Chris and Daniel actually going to do now?)

2002-01-17 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Thursday 17 January 2002 16:10, Daniel Stone wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 04:57:33PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
[...]
  I suggest you to at least implement: /usr/share/kde3 under which all KDE3 
  ro arch indep data should go in such as /usr/share/kde/icons.

Icons are excatly the example that shows that /usr/share/kde* is
the wrong thing...

 I have no beef with this. This is the sort of sane suggestion I wish
 you'd come up with more frequently. I've always thought this should be
 done, as /usr/share is just too cluttered.

... Please don't do this.  Please keep same logical things, like icons,
together.  Otherwise searching for icons is a night mare.  I've dirs get
too crowed use subdir like
/usr/share/icons/kdeX
/usr/lib/kdeX
That's okay but not optimal (IMO).   KDE did the right thing (tm).
Below icons is hi/locolor, then size subdirs.  Because KDE does
not care what kde package an icons comes from.  In an ideal
Debian system it would be the same, KDE, Gnome, fvwm ... put
all their stuff together, because Debian does not care which
packages includes the icons.  At least that is my dream everytime
the icons dialog pops up, and KDE has not the right one.

If one want a view on files by package nothing can do better than
the package tools.  We don't need the filesystem for it.  If one
wants a bigger groups add eg. tags to packages so one can do

apt-get update --tag kde -t unstable upgrade
dpkg --tag kde -l

Joe user looks for docs, icons, sounds ...
Keep it together and Joe user is happy.
Add good package tools and admin is happy.
If both are happy you are on a Debian system ;)

At least up to now.  I hope it will not change.

Achim

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Re: Why did I suggest /usr/lib/kde3 or /opt/kde3? (Re: What are Chris and Daniel actually going to do now?)

2002-01-17 Thread Greg Madden
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On Wednesday 16 January 2002 02:24 pm, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:

 The reason is that Ivan's yet untested approach will not work well
 when users want to install KDE2 and KDE3 at the same time.

 In my approach, you can choose among KDE2 or KDE3 to your heart's
 content. Note that the only file conflicts will *not* happen among
 libraries, which is why you should install in a KDE prefix other than
 /usr. There are many files that conflict, from the ground up. And
 there is no easy solution except implementing my proposed approach.

While this packaging/FHS KDE stuff is over my head, as a user and since 
it is being heavily air on the kde -user list I have a user comment.

It seems to me that there would  be only one version of KDE in Debian 
stable. How Debian gets to one version in stable is another matter.  


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Re: KDE3 question

2002-01-12 Thread enkript
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 11:35:10AM +0100, Daniel Weller wrote:
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 Hi guys,
 
 I'm trying to install KDE3 and so far everything ran well, except that I 
 couldn't compile kdebase because configure says:
 
 checking various X settings... failed
 configure: error: /usr/bin/X11/xmkmf (imake) failed.
 Make sure you have all necessary X development packages installed.
 
 I've apt-get'd xlibs-dev, xlib6g-dev and xlibmesa-dev - and it still doesn't 
 work. Anyone know what I've got to get?
You can try apt-get install ivtools-dev and xutils
those are the results apt-cache search xmkmf came up with,
-John



 
 Cheers,
 Daniel
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Re: KDE3 question

2002-01-12 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Saturday 12 January 2002 11:35, Daniel Weller wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I'm trying to install KDE3 and so far everything ran well, except that I
 couldn't compile kdebase because configure says:

 checking various X settings... failed
 configure: error: /usr/bin/X11/xmkmf (imake) failed.
 Make sure you have all necessary X development packages installed.

 I've apt-get'd xlibs-dev, xlib6g-dev and xlibmesa-dev - and it still
 doesn't work. Anyone know what I've got to get?

I had same problem after upgrading Xlibs to the recent -12, I simply 
downgraded it to -11 and now it works again.. I would recommend awaiting a 
bug-fix from Brandon before upgrading X, if you use the -dev packages.

-Allan




Re: KDE3 question

2002-01-12 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 01:02:33PM +0100, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
 On Saturday 12 January 2002 11:35, Daniel Weller wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  I'm trying to install KDE3 and so far everything ran well, except that I
  couldn't compile kdebase because configure says:
 
  checking various X settings... failed
  configure: error: /usr/bin/X11/xmkmf (imake) failed.
  Make sure you have all necessary X development packages installed.
 
  I've apt-get'd xlibs-dev, xlib6g-dev and xlibmesa-dev - and it still
  doesn't work. Anyone know what I've got to get?
 
 I had same problem after upgrading Xlibs to the recent -12, I simply 
 downgraded it to -11 and now it works again.. I would recommend awaiting a 
 bug-fix from Brandon before upgrading X, if you use the -dev packages.

Correct, he sent a message to -devel-announce about it today.

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Re: testing KDE3 (was: anti-aliasing is *NOT* supported!)

2002-01-09 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 07:50:48AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote:

 When it's ready. Bear in mind, however, that KDE has the fastest
 release team/whatever known to man.

Any chance of getting them to work on Debian instead/as well :-) .

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testing KDE3 (was: anti-aliasing is *NOT* supported!)

2002-01-08 Thread Jarno Elonen
  I don't think AA on KDE is particularily buggy and should, instead, be
  considered quite an important feature if we want to eventually build a
  desktop UI that can seriously compete with the commercial one(s). Look 
  feel and usability are one of the areas we are most likely to fail in and
  therefore requires extra attention, IMHO.

 It will be quite important as an interface option in KDE3, but I think

Great! Now that we are on it, btw, do you know:

 + How smoothly does the CVS version of KDE 3 beta coexist on the same
   computer with current 2.2 debian packages? I would very much like
   to test it already but haven't dared to install yet in the fear
   of making the currently fine working 2.2 unusable..

 + Have they announced any estimated schedule for KDE3 release on
   KDE mailing lists? Ie. about when can we expect official Debian
   packages to appear in 'unstable?'

 these three words sum up its state in KDE2.2: buggy as shit. I don't
 intend to support something that is indeed buggy as shit. Live with the
 odd jagged pixel.

:) If you say so..

- Jarno




Re: testing KDE3 (was: anti-aliasing is *NOT* supported!)

2002-01-08 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:44:13PM +0200, Jarno Elonen wrote:
  It will be quite important as an interface option in KDE3, but I think
 
 Great! Now that we are on it, btw, do you know:
 
  + How smoothly does the CVS version of KDE 3 beta coexist on the same
computer with current 2.2 debian packages? I would very much like
to test it already but haven't dared to install yet in the fear
of making the currently fine working 2.2 unusable..

I'm not sure that it does, at all. Chris?

  + Have they announced any estimated schedule for KDE3 release on
KDE mailing lists? Ie. about when can we expect official Debian
packages to appear in 'unstable?'

When it's ready. Bear in mind, however, that KDE has the fastest
release team/whatever known to man.

  these three words sum up its state in KDE2.2: buggy as shit. I don't
  intend to support something that is indeed buggy as shit. Live with the
  odd jagged pixel.
 
 :) If you say so..

Well, by all means fix it in Qt 2.2 and KDE2.2 upstream if you want. :)

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Re: testing KDE3 (was: anti-aliasing is *NOT* supported!)

2002-01-08 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 07:50:48AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:44:13PM +0200, Jarno Elonen wrote:
   It will be quite important as an interface option in KDE3, but I think
  
  Great! Now that we are on it, btw, do you know:
  
   + How smoothly does the CVS version of KDE 3 beta coexist on the same
 computer with current 2.2 debian packages? I would very much like
 to test it already but haven't dared to install yet in the fear
 of making the currently fine working 2.2 unusable..
 
 I'm not sure that it does, at all. Chris?

I am still working with you on KDE 2.2 (remember) ;)

   + Have they announced any estimated schedule for KDE3 release on
 KDE mailing lists? Ie. about when can we expect official Debian
 packages to appear in 'unstable?'
 
 When it's ready. Bear in mind, however, that KDE has the fastest
 release team/whatever known to man.

Yea, I will have to start looking at the packaging of KDE3 ASAP.

   these three words sum up its state in KDE2.2: buggy as shit. I don't
   intend to support something that is indeed buggy as shit. Live with the
   odd jagged pixel.
  
  :) If you say so..
 
 Well, by all means fix it in Qt 2.2 and KDE2.2 upstream if you want. :)

Sound like a plan to me. ;)

Chris Cheney




Re: testing KDE3 (was: anti-aliasing is *NOT* supported!)

2002-01-08 Thread Jeppe Buk
On Tuesday 08 January 2002 21:50, Daniel Stone wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:44:13PM +0200, Jarno Elonen wrote:
 
   + How smoothly does the CVS version of KDE 3 beta coexist on the
  same computer with current 2.2 debian packages? I would very much
  like to test it already but haven't dared to install yet in the
  fear of making the currently fine working 2.2 unusable..

 I'm not sure that it does, at all. Chris?

There was an article on DebianPlanet recently: 
http://www.debianplanet.org//article.php?sid=533mode=order=0thold=0
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Re: testing KDE3 (was: anti-aliasing is *NOT* supported!)

2002-01-08 Thread Jarno Elonen
On Tuesday 08 January 2002 23:06, Chris Cheney wrote:

   :) If you say so..
 
  Well, by all means fix it in Qt 2.2 and KDE2.2 upstream if you want. :)

 Sound like a plan to me. ;)

Don't push me.. I just might! :P  (if I knew what there is to fix, that is..)

- Jarno




Re: testing KDE3 (was: anti-aliasing is *NOT* supported!)

2002-01-08 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:11:28PM +0100, Jeppe Buk wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 January 2002 21:50, Daniel Stone wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:44:13PM +0200, Jarno Elonen wrote:
  
+ How smoothly does the CVS version of KDE 3 beta coexist on the
   same computer with current 2.2 debian packages? I would very much
   like to test it already but haven't dared to install yet in the
   fear of making the currently fine working 2.2 unusable..
 
  I'm not sure that it does, at all. Chris?
 
 There was an article on DebianPlanet recently: 
 http://www.debianplanet.org//article.php?sid=533mode=order=0thold=0

Yeah, I posted that. That doesn't detail the packages themselves, BTW.
Ivan may or may not have 3.0beta1 packages, I can't remember.

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Re: KDE3

2001-11-19 Thread Vaclav Hula
 Yes, those packages are not ready for general use currently. AFAIK Ivan's
 working on them. I've experienced the same problem when I installed kdelibs4.
 remove them, --purge --force-all kdelibs3 and then reinstall kdelibs3.
 That's how you can get back to working KDE2.2.

Thankfully I don't need working KDE on that machine (that's why I
tried KDE3 here ;). I posted this just in case someone wants to try it.

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Re: ui_standards.rc KDE3 (Ivan?)?

2001-11-09 Thread Tomas Pospisek
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 08:32:37PM +0100, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
  In my ongoing quest to get kdepim to compile with Ivan's KDE3 set I've
  discovered that karm is looking for ui_standards.rc under:
 
  /usr/share/config/ui/ui_standards.rc
 
  as oposed to:
 
  /etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc
 
  where they are by default under Debian. Now I'm unsure who is wrong. I
  can't find any mention of ui_standards.rc in the kdepim sources, so I
  guess that it's a problem with the kdelibs?

 most likely the problem is in how you are building kdepim or with kdepim
 itself.

Um. Actually I stole it from you. Can you see anything wrong below:

$ cat build
. ./debiandirs
cd kdepim
./configure $configkdepim --without-shadow --with-pam=kde --with-ldap
--with-cdparanoia --with-vorbis --libdir=$kde_libdir
--includedir=$kde_includedir --with-extra-includes=/usr/X11R6/include
--without-ssl
$ cat ./debiandirs
export kde_htmldir=/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML
export kde_appsdir=/usr/share/applnk
export kde_icondir=/usr/share/icons
export kde_sounddir=/usr/share/sounds
export kde_datadir=/usr/share/apps
export kde_cgidir=/usr/lib/cgi-bin
export kde_locale=/usr/share/locale
export kde_confdir=/etc/kde2
export kde_mimedir=/usr/share/mimelnk
export kde_wallpaperdir=/usr/share/wallpapers
export kde_bindir=/usr/bin
export kde_servicesdir=/usr/share/services
export kde_servicetypesdir=/usr/share/servicetypes
export kde_includedir=/usr/include/kde
export kde_libdir=/usr/lib
export kde_moduledir=/usr/lib/kde2
export mandir=/usr/share/man
export infodir=/usr/share/info
export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt
export kde_prefix=/usr
export INSTALL_DATA=install -p -c -m 644
export IDL=/usr/bin/cuteidl
export DCOPIDL=/usr/bin/dcopidl
export DCOPIDL2CPP=/usr/bin/dcopidl2cpp
export KDB2HTML=/usr/bin/kdb2html
export MCOPIDL=/usr/bin/mcopidl
export ARTSCCONFIG=/usr/bin/artsc-config
export configkdepim=--enable-debug --with-extra-includes=/usr/include/kde3
 --with-extra-includes=/usr/include/libpisock
 --enable-shared --disable-rpath --prefix=$kde_prefix
 --libexecdir=$kde_bindir --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt
 --mandir=$mandir --infodir=$infodir

? Thanks!!
*t


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resolved: compiling kde3 stuff under Debian

2001-10-18 Thread Tomas Pospisek
You might remember my last request for help. So now I've made a chrooted
debian installation, popped rkrusty's libqt3
package and kdebase-cvs_3.0-0.alpha1-1 fragments in it and:

tpo2:rkrusty/kde3.0/source/kdebase-cvs-3.0-0.alpha1# debian/rules binary
[...]
checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 3.0.0) (libraries) not
found. Please check your installation!
For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
make: *** [build-stamp] Error 1

So aparently I'm not the only one who's got something wrong...

from the config.log:

configure:5510: gcc -o conftest -ansi -W -Wall -pedantic -Wshadow
-Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500
-D_BSD_SOURCE -g -O2
  -I.  -I/usr/X11R6/include  -D_REENTRANT  conftest.c -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-ljpeg -lm 15
configure: 5550: /usr/include/jpeglib.h
taking that
configure:5684: checking for Qt
configure: 5748: /usr/include/qt/qstyle.h
taking that
tried NO
tried /usr/share/qt/lib
tried /usr/share/qt
tried /usr/lib/qt3/lib
tried /usr/lib/qt3
tried /usr/lib/qt/lib
tried /usr/lib/qt
tried /usr/X11R6/lib
tried /usr/lib
tried /usr/local/qt/lib
tried /usr/X11R6/lib
configure:5860: rm -rf SunWS_cache; c++ -o conftest -ansi
-D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wundef
-Wconversion -fno-builtin -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -g -O2 -Wall
-pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings
-fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -I/usr/include/qt -I.  -DPIC -fPIC
-DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT  -D_REENTRANT  -LNONE -L/usr/X11R6/lib   -DPIC -fPIC
-lpthread conftest.C  -lqt-mt -lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg  -lXext -lX11 -lSM
-lICE  -lresolv 15
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt
[...]

So all the new kde packages seem to be depending on qt3-mt now :-) !

And on goes the quest.
*t

PS: Thanks a lot to David Bishop, Michael Ashton and Mark Hollomon for
trying to help me :-) !


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Re: resolved: compiling kde3 stuff under Debian

2001-10-18 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 11:38:38PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
 You might remember my last request for help. So now I've made a chrooted
 debian installation, popped rkrusty's libqt3
 package and kdebase-cvs_3.0-0.alpha1-1 fragments in it and:
 
 tpo2:rkrusty/kde3.0/source/kdebase-cvs-3.0-0.alpha1# debian/rules binary
 [...]
 checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 3.0.0) (libraries) not
 found. Please check your installation!
 For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
 make: *** [build-stamp] Error 1
 
 So aparently I'm not the only one who's got something wrong...
 
 from the config.log:
 
 configure:5510: gcc -o conftest -ansi -W -Wall -pedantic -Wshadow
 -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500
 -D_BSD_SOURCE -g -O2
   -I.  -I/usr/X11R6/include  -D_REENTRANT  conftest.c -L/usr/X11R6/lib
 -ljpeg -lm 15
 configure: 5550: /usr/include/jpeglib.h
 taking that
 configure:5684: checking for Qt
 configure: 5748: /usr/include/qt/qstyle.h
 taking that
 tried NO
 tried /usr/share/qt/lib
 tried /usr/share/qt
 tried /usr/lib/qt3/lib
 tried /usr/lib/qt3
 tried /usr/lib/qt/lib
 tried /usr/lib/qt
 tried /usr/X11R6/lib
 tried /usr/lib
 tried /usr/local/qt/lib
 tried /usr/X11R6/lib
 configure:5860: rm -rf SunWS_cache; c++ -o conftest -ansi
 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wundef
 -Wconversion -fno-builtin -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -g -O2 -Wall
 -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings
 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -I/usr/include/qt -I.  -DPIC -fPIC
 -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT  -D_REENTRANT  -LNONE -L/usr/X11R6/lib   -DPIC -fPIC
 -lpthread conftest.C  -lqt-mt -lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg  -lXext -lX11 -lSM
 -lICE  -lresolv 15
 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt
 [...]
 
 So all the new kde packages seem to be depending on qt3-mt now :-) !

oh yea..forgot to tell people that. :)  I found out just by accident as
I have it installed by default on the box I'm building kde3 stuff on...I 
noticed when I was looking at the deps and found libqt3-mt was listed...

Ivan

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Re: kde3

2001-09-10 Thread Maximilian Reiss
future?

 The HEAD KDE cvs branch has moved onto qt3/kde3.  There is still the 2.2
 branch which is what we are using and will continue to use.  2.2.1 has just
 been tagged and is scheduled for release a week from Monday.  That will be
 my next upload of any kde packages.

 as for qt-copy.  When I get some time I'll update it.  There is major
 changes between the old qt-copy and the current one so most of the files
 under the debian/ dir need to be replaced.

 Ivan

Please stick with the 2.2.1 cvs line. KDE3 cvs not until beta2 (in sid).
Maybe if you start earlier with packaging kde3 cvs stuff then please 
put them on some external apt source.

Max




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