Re: Problem with upgrading to KDE 3.1.1 on Debian woody: finally solved
[ Please CC me on replies as I'm not suscribed to -kde ] Hi all, On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:48:41PM +0800, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: > Guillem Jover wrote: > > deb http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian woody/binary/ > > I installed this package and found that kdm did not crash. However, > after each startup of the X server, I get a > "Print jobs for ps: KJobViewer" > window popping up. Why, I do not know. This does not happen with > xfs-xtt, for instance. Did you upgraded any other kde related package? Do you have a standard testing installation, or any external apt repositories? > >Also there are certain fonts that when installed, make X crash. > >If the above don't solve the problem could you send me the output of: > > > > xfstt --gslist --sync > > Output file of this is attached as xfstt_output.txt Ok thanks. But if now it doesn't crash I don't think it is related with the fonts. > My current workaround is to use xfs-xtt instead of xfstt. I am confused > about whether I also need xfs or whether I need only ONE of xfs, xfs-xtt > OR xfstt. Advice on this is most appreciated. The rendering engines are different, you'll have to decide which one looks better :>. Also now xfs should support truetype fonts. You will need either xfs or xfs-xtt or xfs + xfstt. > Also, after the last kdm crash report, I found I needed to install > xlibmesa3-glu version 4.2.1-6 to make .jpg KDE wallpapers and > screensavers work. Because kdm needs a background (Debian) wallpaper on > my machine, this could also have contributed to kdm crashing. I hope > this helps rather than confuses! Could you uninstall this package to see if it crashes, so we can discard one possible problem? regards, guillem
Re: Problem with upgrading to KDE 3.1.1 on Debian woody: finally solved
Dear All, Sorry for the late reply. Guillem Jover wrote: [ Please CC me on replies as I'm not suscribed to -kde ] Hi all, On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 01:46:14PM +0200, Amaya wrote: IIRC, this has been reported: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=xfstt There are three different bug reports regarding this behaviour. Ok, I don't know what can be the cause of your problems. There was a bug that caused gnome2 to slowdown and some times crash, solved in xfstt 1.4, so to test that this is not the same problem I've backported it to woody: deb http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian woody/binary/ I installed this package and found that kdm did not crash. However, after each startup of the X server, I get a "Print jobs for ps: KJobViewer" window popping up. Why, I do not know. This does not happen with xfs-xtt, for instance. Also there are certain fonts that when installed, make X crash. If the above don't solve the problem could you send me the output of: xfstt --gslist --sync Output file of this is attached as xfstt_output.txt regards, guillem My current workaround is to use xfs-xtt instead of xfstt. I am confused about whether I also need xfs or whether I need only ONE of xfs, xfs-xtt OR xfstt. Advice on this is most appreciated. Also, after the last kdm crash report, I found I needed to install xlibmesa3-glu version 4.2.1-6 to make .jpg KDE wallpapers and screensavers work. Because kdm needs a background (Debian) wallpaper on my machine, this could also have contributed to kdm crashing. I hope this helps rather than confuses! Thanks. --Chandra 06 May 03 -- Dr R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar Australian Research Centre for Medical Engineering Murdoch University South Street, Murdoch, WA 6150, AUSTRALIA Phone: +61-(8)-9360-2783Fax: +61-(8)-9360-6304 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Murdoch University CRICOS Provider Code is 00125J -- (Andale Mono) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Andale_Mono.ttf) ; (Arial Black) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Arial_Black.ttf) ; (Arial) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Arial.ttf); (Arial Bold)(//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Arial_Bold.ttf) ; (Arial Bold Italic) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Arial_Bold_Italic.ttf) ; (Arial Italic) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Arial_Italic.ttf) ; (Comic Sans MS) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Comic_Sans_MS.ttf); (Comic Sans MS Bold)(//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Comic_Sans_MS_Bold.ttf) ; (Courier New) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Courier_New.ttf) ; (Courier New Bold) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Courier_New_Bold.ttf) ; (Courier New Italic)(//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Courier_New_Italic.ttf) ; (Courier New Bold Italic) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Courier_New_Bold_Italic.ttf) ; (Georgia) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Georgia.ttf) ; (Georgia Bold) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Georgia_Bold.ttf) ; (Georgia Italic)(//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Georgia_Italic.ttf) ; (Georgia Bold Italic) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Georgia_Bold_Italic.ttf) ; (Impact)(//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Impact.ttf) ; (Times New Roman) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Times_New_Roman.ttf) ; (Times New Roman Bold) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Times_New_Roman_Bold.ttf) ; (Times New Roman Bold Italic) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Times_New_Roman_Bold_Italic.ttf) ; (Times New Roman Italic) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Times_New_Roman_Italic.ttf) ; (Trebuchet MS) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Trebuchet_MS.ttf) ; (Trebuchet MS Bold) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Trebuchet_MS_Bold.ttf) ; (Trebuchet MS Italic) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Trebuchet_MS_Italic.ttf) ; (Trebuchet MS Bold Italic) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Trebuchet_MS_Bold_Italic.ttf) ; (Verdana) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Verdana.ttf) ; (Verdana Bold) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Verdana_Bold.ttf) ; (Verdana Italic)(//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Verdana_Italic.ttf) ; (Verdana Bold Italic) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Verdana_Bold_Italic.ttf) ; (Webdings) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/./Webdings.ttf) ; (Free Monospaced Bold) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeMonoBold.ttf) ; (Free Monospaced) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeMono.ttf) ; (Free Monospaced Bold Oblique) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeMonoBoldOblique.ttf) ; (Free Monospaced Oblique) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeMonoOblique.ttf) ; (Free Sans) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSans.ttf) ; (Free Sans Bold)(//usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSansBold.ttf) ; (Free Sans Bold Oblique) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSansBoldOblique.ttf) ; (Free Sans Oblique) (//usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSansOblique.ttf) ; (Free Serif)(//usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/Free
Re: Problem with upgrading to KDE 3.1.1 on Debian woody: finally solved
[ Please CC me on replies as I'm not suscribed to -kde ] Hi all, On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 01:46:14PM +0200, Amaya wrote: > IIRC, this has been reported: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=xfstt > There are three different bug reports regarding this behaviour. Ok, I don't know what can be the cause of your problems. There was a bug that caused gnome2 to slowdown and some times crash, solved in xfstt 1.4, so to test that this is not the same problem I've backported it to woody: deb http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian woody/binary/ Also there are certain fonts that when installed, make X crash. If the above don't solve the problem could you send me the output of: xfstt --gslist --sync regards, guillem
libqt3.1.2 & xfstt -> crashes [was: Re: Problem with upgrading to KDE 3.1.1 on Debian woody: finally solved]
Hello! I've already experienced similar crashes with xfstt and libqt 3.1.2 installed at the same time (see http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/debian-kde-200303/msg00812.html); not only on my main system but also on 3 other debian systems (all debian 3.0 woody). I'm not using kdm, so kicker was usually one of the first applications crashing; the issue was reproduceable. Now I'm not using xfstt anymore and the issue seems to be solved. What's strange about this is only that the problems don't appear with libqt 3.1.1. But now at least I know that xfstt seems to be the culprit. Regards, Stephan On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:46:14 +0200 Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IIRC, this has been reported: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=xfstt > There are three different bug reports regarding this behaviour. > > BTW, Guillem is now upstream and mantainer for xfstt. > > Kindest regards. > > -- > .''`. No a la Guerra, No en mi nombre, No con mi silencio. > : :' : No war, Not in my name, Not with my silence > `. `'Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid + 2.4.20 + Ext3) > `-www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com > www.chicasduras.com > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Problem with upgrading to KDE 3.1.1 on Debian woody: finally solved
IIRC, this has been reported: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=xfstt There are three different bug reports regarding this behaviour. BTW, Guillem is now upstream and mantainer for xfstt. Kindest regards. -- .''`. No a la Guerra, No en mi nombre, No con mi silencio. : :' : No war, Not in my name, Not with my silence `. `'Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (Sid + 2.4.20 + Ext3) `-www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: Problem with upgrading to KDE 3.1.1 on Debian woody: finally solved
A Divendres 11 Abril 2003 12:01, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar va escriure: From the end of the previous message: > 2. How can I make xfstt and KDE-3.1.1 co-exist on my office machine? at the university I have xfstt and kde3.1.1 installed and runing, but at home no. > Dear Folks at KDE and Debian, > > This is a follow up to Leo's detailed analysis of why KDE-3.1.1 kdm > crashes on startup in Debian. > > I first experienced problems with the upgrade on my home machine; I > posted to this group about ten days ago. I then tried an upgrade on my > office this week and had the same problem noted before. My office > machine has a default Debian testing distribution with a few unstable > packages like mozilla. > > I give my comments below: > > Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: > > A Dijous 03 Abril 2003 10:54, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda va escriure: > > Hi, > > > > after some kind of fight betwend my old box, kde and I have a system > > working now, and I "think" that I understand what happened. > > > > I did a purge of all kde, and qt as Ralf said in another message. > > > >>>apt-get remove --purge libqt3* > > Did this. > > > So I began to test what happended. > > > > I did a simple installation with a minimal X, and xdm and I installed > > scribus that for dependency needed libqt-mt. > > > > And boom, I couldn't run scribus. The messages was (I'm sorry, I had to > > have wrotten it) something like this > > ~~~QFont: cannot set the font size to -1 > > I removed all lib3t2 and libqt3 packages also. > > > In that time I had the Xserver configured with two fonts servers: > > xft and xftt. The truetype fonts were managed by xftt because I thought > > that it was better, but not. I don't know which are the difference > > betwend libqt 3.1.2 and 3.1.1, but with 3.1.1 I didn't have any problem > > but with the new version it was a nightmare. > > I think xfstt is the cause of the problem. Interestingly, I have libqt3 > release 3.1.2-0woody1 on both my home and office PCs. > > I too had xfstt on my system: kdm failed to startup; the X server also > crashed. As root, if I did > > /etc/init.d/xfstt stop > > and started x, the X-server worked and KDE was available. If I > re-booted (and xfstt was again up) the X-server and kdm again crashed. > > So I did > > apt-get remove xfstt > > and re-booted and things were perfect. > > However, on my home PC, I can and do have xfstt and KDE-3.1.1 running > together. > > This points to xfstt being part of the cause of kdm crashing, but maybe > not the sole cause. > > I conclude that xfstt holds the clue to the answer of the problem on my > office machine, perhaps in conjunction with x-server* packages. > > I have the following questions and comments: > > 1. Why does xfstt co-exist with KDE-3.1.1 on my home PC but not my > office PC? (I ensured that xfstt was the same release 1.2.1-1 on both. > The xservers* debs are however 4.1.0-16 and 4.2.1-3 respectively.) > > 2. How can I make xfstt and KDE-3.1.1 co-exist on my office machine? > > 3. Does the Debian defoma font manager hold the key to this problem? (I > recall that the KDE control centre did not recognize the tt font > locations when I last tried it out. Do KDE and defoma talk?) > > 4. The gnome desktop and sawfish window manager can co-exist with xfstt > and were operational when KDE-3.1.1 kdm failed. > > > So, I removed xftt, and configured xfs to manage truetype and all is > > working.. Well, I have to say that I also suffered the bug about the > > kdelibs-data with the ui/ui_standards.rc. file (and several files more.) > > Leo, please let me know by individual e-mail how you configured xfs to > manage truetype. Many thanks for your help. > > > Otherwise, thank's for your help. > > > > Regards, > > > > Leo > > --Chandra >11 Apr 03 > -- > Dr R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar > Australian Research Centre for Medical Engineering > Murdoch University > South Street, Murdoch, WA 6150, AUSTRALIA > Phone: +61-(8)-9360-2783Fax: +61-(8)-9360-6304 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The Murdoch University CRICOS Provider Code is 00125J > --
Re: Problem with upgrading to KDE 3.1.1 on Debian woody: finally solved
Dear Folks at KDE and Debian, This is a follow up to Leo's detailed analysis of why KDE-3.1.1 kdm crashes on startup in Debian. I first experienced problems with the upgrade on my home machine; I posted to this group about ten days ago. I then tried an upgrade on my office this week and had the same problem noted before. My office machine has a default Debian testing distribution with a few unstable packages like mozilla. I give my comments below: Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: A Dijous 03 Abril 2003 10:54, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda va escriure: Hi, after some kind of fight betwend my old box, kde and I have a system working now, and I "think" that I understand what happened. I did a purge of all kde, and qt as Ralf said in another message. apt-get remove --purge libqt3* Did this. So I began to test what happended. I did a simple installation with a minimal X, and xdm and I installed scribus that for dependency needed libqt-mt. And boom, I couldn't run scribus. The messages was (I'm sorry, I had to have wrotten it) something like this ~~~QFont: cannot set the font size to -1 I removed all lib3t2 and libqt3 packages also. In that time I had the Xserver configured with two fonts servers: xft and xftt. The truetype fonts were managed by xftt because I thought that it was better, but not. I don't know which are the difference betwend libqt 3.1.2 and 3.1.1, but with 3.1.1 I didn't have any problem but with the new version it was a nightmare. I think xfstt is the cause of the problem. Interestingly, I have libqt3 release 3.1.2-0woody1 on both my home and office PCs. I too had xfstt on my system: kdm failed to startup; the X server also crashed. As root, if I did /etc/init.d/xfstt stop and started x, the X-server worked and KDE was available. If I re-booted (and xfstt was again up) the X-server and kdm again crashed. So I did apt-get remove xfstt and re-booted and things were perfect. However, on my home PC, I can and do have xfstt and KDE-3.1.1 running together. This points to xfstt being part of the cause of kdm crashing, but maybe not the sole cause. I conclude that xfstt holds the clue to the answer of the problem on my office machine, perhaps in conjunction with x-server* packages. I have the following questions and comments: 1. Why does xfstt co-exist with KDE-3.1.1 on my home PC but not my office PC? (I ensured that xfstt was the same release 1.2.1-1 on both. The xservers* debs are however 4.1.0-16 and 4.2.1-3 respectively.) 2. How can I make xfstt and KDE-3.1.1 co-exist on my office machine? 3. Does the Debian defoma font manager hold the key to this problem? (I recall that the KDE control centre did not recognize the tt font locations when I last tried it out. Do KDE and defoma talk?) 4. The gnome desktop and sawfish window manager can co-exist with xfstt and were operational when KDE-3.1.1 kdm failed. So, I removed xftt, and configured xfs to manage truetype and all is working.. Well, I have to say that I also suffered the bug about the kdelibs-data with the ui/ui_standards.rc. file (and several files more.) Leo, please let me know by individual e-mail how you configured xfs to manage truetype. Many thanks for your help. Otherwise, thank's for your help. Regards, Leo --Chandra 11 Apr 03 -- Dr R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar Australian Research Centre for Medical Engineering Murdoch University South Street, Murdoch, WA 6150, AUSTRALIA Phone: +61-(8)-9360-2783Fax: +61-(8)-9360-6304 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Murdoch University CRICOS Provider Code is 00125J --
Re: Problem with upgrading to KDE 3.1.1 on Debian woody: finally solved
A Dijous 03 Abril 2003 10:54, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda va escriure: Hi, after some kind of fight betwend my old box, kde and I have a system working now, and I "think" that I understand what happened. I did a purge of all kde, and qt as Ralf said in another message. >> apt-get remove --purge libqt3* So I began to test what happended. I did a simple installation with a minimal X, and xdm and I installed scribus that for dependency needed libqt-mt. And boom, I couldn't run scribus. The messages was (I'm sorry, I had to have wrotten it) something like this ~~~QFont: cannot set the font size to -1 In that time I had the Xserver configured with two fonts servers: xft and xftt. The truetype fonts were managed by xftt because I thought that it was better, but not. I don't know which are the difference betwend libqt 3.1.2 and 3.1.1, but with 3.1.1 I didn't have any problem but with the new version it was a nightmare. So, I removed xftt, and configured xfs to manage truetype and all is working.. Well, I have to say that I also suffered the bug about the kdelibs-data with the ui/ui_standards.rc. file (and several files more.) Otherwise, thank's for your help. Regards, Leo > A Dimecres 02 Abril 2003 18:28, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda va escriure: > Hi, > > yesterday I did a complete reinstall of kde3.1.1 and all was the same. I > did a remove of libqt3-mt, and all the package that was of kde. > > After have a "clean" system (also a rm -rf /etc/kde3) I realised that in > /usr/share/apps there still some files als k3b, ktheme, kio, > > I deleted all that I could identified as a kde app. So I did a simple > apt-get install kdm > > that installed the a minimal kde application. I didn't have any error, but > when kdm tried to run it crased as always. > > So, I begin to understand nothing. > > I looked at the /var/log/kdm and firstly I find a waning that I have in my > box in the university, but it works: > > Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/imageformats/libqjpeg-non-mt.so: > Plugin uses single threaded Qt library! > Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/imageformats/libqmng-non-mt.so: > Plugin uses single threaded Qt library! > > but the main important thing that I found was: > > KThemeStyle cache seems corrupt! > > after it, the kdm crases. > > Please could someone tell me how to clean this?, becasue I dodn't have > installed any ktheme package. I have the minimal configuration to install > kdm. > > Regards, > > Leo -- Linux User 152692 Catalonia
