Re: KDE 4.10 (was Re: knode: trying to overwrite key.png, which is also in package libkpgp4)

2013-04-15 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-15, Thorsten Glaser t...@mirbsd.de wrote:
 Maybe kdepim should Depends virtuoso-minimal and either
 depend on akonadi 1.9 or break akonadi  1.9 ?

At least something related to akonadi has already been committed to the
git packaging repository. There is likely a few other rough ends here
and there.  Is virtuoso-minimal a hard requirement for kdepim?

/Sune


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Re: KDE 4.10 (was Re: knode: trying to overwrite key.png, which is also in package libkpgp4)

2013-04-15 Thread Diane Trout
On Monday, April 15, 2013 13:18:14 Sune Vuorela wrote:
 On 2013-04-15, Thorsten Glaser t...@mirbsd.de wrote:
  Maybe kdepim should Depends virtuoso-minimal and either
  depend on akonadi 1.9 or break akonadi  1.9 ?
 
 At least something related to akonadi has already been committed to the
 git packaging repository. There is likely a few other rough ends here
 and there.  Is virtuoso-minimal a hard requirement for kdepim?
 

My understanding is that kmail2 needs nepomuk and akonadi to work, and its 
Nepomuk that has a hard dependency on virtuoso. Akonadi is incompatible with 
virtuoso and needs its own seperate dbm to work. 

I think there was some wizard like capabilities built into kmail for 
configuring mail. 

Also I sometimes found akonadiconsole useful in trying to visualize the stack 
of modules working to pull in PIM  mail data.

diane


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Re: KDE 4.10 (was Re: knode: trying to overwrite key.png, which is also in package libkpgp4)

2013-04-15 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-15, Diane Trout di...@ghic.org wrote:
 My understanding is that kmail2 needs nepomuk and akonadi to work, and its 
 Nepomuk that has a hard dependency on virtuoso. Akonadi is incompatible with 

kmail2 needs nepomuk to work in all regards, like searching for emails
and distribution lists and some bits of address completion.
but it shouldn't be a hard runtime requirement to have virtuoso
available.

My suggestion for some of you who seems to have gotteng the system to
work after installing virtuoso, what happens if you disable nepomuk in
systemsettings afterwards?  Does mail stop appearing? 

/Sune


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Re: KDE 4.10 (was Re: knode: trying to overwrite key.png, which is also in package libkpgp4)

2013-04-15 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Monday, 2013-04-15, Sune Vuorela wrote:
 On 2013-04-15, Diane Trout di...@ghic.org wrote:
  My understanding is that kmail2 needs nepomuk and akonadi to work, and
  its Nepomuk that has a hard dependency on virtuoso. Akonadi is
  incompatible with
 
 kmail2 needs nepomuk to work in all regards, like searching for emails
 and distribution lists and some bits of address completion.
 but it shouldn't be a hard runtime requirement to have virtuoso
 available.
 
 My suggestion for some of you who seems to have gotteng the system to
 work after installing virtuoso, what happens if you disable nepomuk in
 systemsettings afterwards?  Does mail stop appearing?

The mail access itself shouldn't be affected, that is all just between Akonadi 
server and its clients (e.g. KMail).
The Nepomuk integration is used for features that are basically based on 
queries, e.g. mail search, recipient completion, resolving of contact groups 
(distribution lists), etc.

Regarding their respective backend engines, it is less a question of 
compatibility, i.e. virtuoso can theoretically be used as an SQL engine, it is 
just that any test so far has resulted in the finding that the SQL facilities 
of virtuoso combined with the generic QSql driver for ODBC do not provide the 
requirements for Akonadi (yet?).

Cheers,
Kevin


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Re: KDE 4.10 (was Re: knode: trying to overwrite key.png, which is also in package libkpgp4)

2013-04-15 Thread Diane Trout

 My suggestion for some of you who seems to have gotteng the system to
 work after installing virtuoso, what happens if you disable nepomuk in
 systemsettings afterwards?  Does mail stop appearing?

Mail still appeared though I couldn't use the search box to filter my mail. 
Using recent addresses still worked with the feeder offline.

To do the test, I used akonadiconsole to take the akonadi nepomuk feeder 
component offline.

Akonadi hung at indexing recent changes after I did the test. 

Diane


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