Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On Tuesday, 2012-11-27, Thomas Pircher wrote: > On Tuesday 27 Nov 2012 09:01:08 Kevin Krammer wrote: > > You could try the SQLite backend. > > Moving slightly more off-topic: is it safe for 2 users on the same machine > sharing the same Akonadi database? I'm using Postgresql as DB backend. This depends on what you mean with same database. Can two Akonadi servers connect to the same database server? I think that could be done, assuming the database server can separate the two clients. Can two Akonadi servers work on the same tables? I don't think so. The data itself can of course be shared provided the backends allow that. Cheers, Kevin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On 28/11/12 03:12, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Montag, 26. November 2012 schrieb Kevin Krammer: On Monday, 2012-11-26, David Smith wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:00 PM, chymian wrote: at the moment I'm tied to icedove/thunderbird which is another sad story. tia günter Yes, I agree the state of KMAIL in Wheezy is really bad.. It's *VERY* easy to make it crash 10-15 times an hour with normal operation of the program. I've also resorted to just removing it and running ice dove which is easily 1000x better in features and never crashes. Is this a different version than the one in Unstable? Because the one in Unstable does not show that kind of behavior. Here it is one the few applications that run at all times (I start it one of the first things when logging in and never quit it until I log out) and this laptop often sees uptimes of 60 days and more. I do run it as a component within Kontact, but I would be surprised if this is the important difference. The version reported here is 1.13.7 +1. KMail runs for days without being restarted here. POP3 accounts, more than one million mails. Only thing is that sometimes it is stuck on sending an outgoing mail. I found this to be related with nepomuk and I think I even mentioned it on kdepim oder kdepim-users in some thread. AFAIR I can unstuck it by stopping a certain nepomuk related process. I did not see this on my workstation at work I think and on the work user on this laptop. IMAP with both. The problems I experienced was: 1) Kmail/akonadi in a X Terminal environment. 2) Rather large #PUBLIC imap hierarchies This is running squeeze. Had no problems with lenny (kde3.5). If the stability of wheezy > squeeze when it comes to KDE then thats great. Still curious as to why kmail/kdepim are still stuck at 4.4.x. Jules -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50b55e29.7020...@internode.on.net
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On Monday 26 Nov 2012 16:10:10 Kevin Krammer wrote: > The only IMAP account I am using regularily and also in connection drop > situation is a Kolab account (I also get calendar and tasks through it), so > it is a Disconnected IMAP: I used to run KMail on IMAP, and the crashes are easily reproducible: just move a bunch of mails to a different folder (or delete them) and while KMail is still busy, click on a different mail or a different folder. KMail will crash almost 100%. A week ago I have switched to Disconnected IMAP and in this setting I haven't seen one single crash since. Debian Testing, KMail Version 1.13.7 Using KDE Development Platform 4.8.4 (4.8.4) My 2 cents Th -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201211271932.48279.teh...@gmx.net
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On Tuesday 27 Nov 2012 09:01:08 Kevin Krammer wrote: > You could try the SQLite backend. Moving slightly more off-topic: is it safe for 2 users on the same machine sharing the same Akonadi database? I'm using Postgresql as DB backend. Thanks, Th -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201211271936.36345.teh...@gmx.net
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 09:33:36 Jacopo Nespolo wrote: > I agree that for a day to day use, kmail works just fine, and only > seldom i experience some minor annoyance. > As for what you say, of kaddressbook being disconnected from kmail, i > thought so, too. Then i followed a how to somewhere, which basically > suggested to go to system settings > personal information and then > select akonadi-resource as the standard resource for contacts. > > After that, kaddressbook's contacts show in kmail and from kmail i can > right click addresses and add them to kaddressbook. > cheers. Using your suggestion I don't have any issues with kmail anymore :), thank you. Cheers, Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201211271758.35636.vandenberg.r...@gmail.com
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
Am Montag, 26. November 2012 schrieb Kevin Krammer: > On Monday, 2012-11-26, David Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:00 PM, chymian wrote: > > > at the moment I'm tied to icedove/thunderbird which is another sad > > > story. > > > > > > tia > > > günter > > > > Yes, I agree the state of KMAIL in Wheezy is really bad.. It's > > *VERY* easy to make it crash 10-15 times an hour with normal > > operation of the program. I've also resorted to just removing it > > and running ice dove which is easily 1000x better in features and > > never crashes. > > Is this a different version than the one in Unstable? > Because the one in Unstable does not show that kind of behavior. > > Here it is one the few applications that run at all times (I start it > one of the first things when logging in and never quit it until I log > out) and this laptop often sees uptimes of 60 days and more. > > I do run it as a component within Kontact, but I would be surprised if > this is the important difference. > > The version reported here is 1.13.7 +1. KMail runs for days without being restarted here. POP3 accounts, more than one million mails. Only thing is that sometimes it is stuck on sending an outgoing mail. I found this to be related with nepomuk and I think I even mentioned it on kdepim oder kdepim-users in some thread. AFAIR I can unstuck it by stopping a certain nepomuk related process. I did not see this on my workstation at work I think and on the work user on this laptop. IMAP with both. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201211271712.23620.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On Tuesday, 2012-11-27, Julian wrote: > As for kmail in a terminal enviroment, I'm not so confident in it. At > least with > thunderbird you get a "I'm open and running somewhere else" > dialog popup. With kmail, akonadi bombs it and you have to kill the > mysqld userspace process for each client (not really happy about the > mysql dependency at all). You could try the SQLite backend. Cheers, Kevin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
Hi On 27 November 2012 08:23, Robert van den Berg wrote: > The only thing I miss is the disconnect between > kaddressbook and kmail. I agree that for a day to day use, kmail works just fine, and only seldom i experience some minor annoyance. As for what you say, of kaddressbook being disconnected from kmail, i thought so, too. Then i followed a how to somewhere, which basically suggested to go to system settings > personal information and then select akonadi-resource as the standard resource for contacts. After that, kaddressbook's contacts show in kmail and from kmail i can right click addresses and add them to kaddressbook. cheers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caprp9-vgtna4mtsjn7ayuyrtmag8-phujz96vb+vuyquqht...@mail.gmail.com
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Julian wrote: > > As for desktop systems that power off regularly, maybe kmail is stable > enough for > that? > > Jules. > I use kmail as desktop user with regular power offs with a pop mailbox and with gmail as disconnected IMAP. and I indeed don't experience stability issues with kmail. The only thing I miss is the disconnect between kaddressbook and kmail. Robert
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On 27/11/12 02:48, john Culleton wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:39:16 +0800 David Smith wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Benjamin Eikel wrote: Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 16:11:21 schrieb Kevin Krammer: On Monday, 2012-11-26, David Smith wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:00 PM, chymian wrote: at the moment I'm tied to icedove/thunderbird which is another sad story. tia günter Yes, I agree the state of KMAIL in Wheezy is really bad.. It's *VERY* easy to make it crash 10-15 times an hour with normal operation of the program. I've also resorted to just removing it and running ice dove which is easily 1000x better in features and never crashes. Is this a different version than the one in Unstable? Because the one in Unstable does not show that kind of behavior. Here it is one the few applications that run at all times (I start it one of the first things when logging in and never quit it until I log out) and this laptop often sees uptimes of 60 days and more. I do run it as a component within Kontact, but I would be surprised if this is the important difference. Same for me. KMail runs rock stable here, too (unstable, libkdepim4 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1, running inside Kontact). But some of the features of newer KDEPIM (e.g. GroupDAV support) would indeed be very nice. As far as I know the Debian KDE team lacks manpower and therefore newer packages will takes some time. Looks to be the same version... I'm in mainland China which has artificial connectivity problems with google's mail servers. That *might* be the cause of my constant KMAIL crashes, but I never bothered to investigate further. Even when I'm not doing anything with KMAIL, and just have it running it in the background doing nothing, it will just crash all by itself and I have to regularly restart it. Again, that might just be because I have a lot of connectivity problems to the mail server that KMAIl is trying to use. I've tried doing everything in the book (deleting all of the user's config files, using a different user account on the PC, etc..) with no success.. I'm sure if I stop using google's mail servers from China, the problem will probably go away, but gmail's spam filter is the best I've ever seen so I keep using it anyway and just gave KMAIL the boot. The only reason I end up using IceDove or KMAIL is because gmail.com won't even load most of the time... At least with IceDove, I can write something up and queue it to send when it can.. KMAIL does that and then just crashes some time later, sometimes even losing my e-mail that I wrote without sending it :(. I switched to claws-mail and never looked back. Having a play with claws-mail ATM, seems pretty good. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50b3fa08.5020...@internode.on.net
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On 27/11/12 02:31, Benjamin Eikel wrote: As far as I know the Debian KDE team lacks manpower and therefore newer packages will takes some time. The biggest disappointment with squeeze was the instability of kmail/kdepim/akonadi, and from the little searches I've done kmail has a whole of of problems in itself, anyway. Perhaps it should've stayed in sid (if that was possible - Currently you are able to purge kdepim & kmail from wheezy without effecting the rest of KDE). As far as I can tell kdepim & kmail is still at 4.4.x across all suites. http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=kmail As for kmail in a terminal enviroment, I'm not so confident in it. At least with thunderbird you get a "I'm open and running somewhere else" dialog popup. With kmail, akonadi bombs it and you have to kill the mysqld userspace process for each client (not really happy about the mysql dependency at all). Luckily I only manage a small office (XDMCP or LDM via LTSP on squeeze) and forced those that often change terminals to use thunderbird. Those that aren't as adaptable still use kmail, and I issue some kills when problems arise - usually it occurs when the client logs out/in and/or is assigned a different IP. As for desktop systems that power off regularly, maybe kmail is stable enough for that? Jules. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50b3f97f.2080...@internode.on.net
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
Am 26.11.2012 16:48, schrieb john Culleton: > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:39:16 +0800 > David Smith wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Benjamin Eikel >> wrote: >>> Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 16:11:21 schrieb Kevin Krammer: On Monday, 2012-11-26, David Smith wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:00 PM, chymian > wrote: >> at the moment I'm tied to icedove/thunderbird which is another >> sad story. >> >> tia >> günter > Yes, I agree the state of KMAIL in Wheezy is really bad.. It's > *VERY* easy to make it crash 10-15 times an hour with normal > operation of the program. I've also resorted to just removing > it and running ice dove which is easily 1000x better in features > and never crashes. Is this a different version than the one in Unstable? Because the one in Unstable does not show that kind of behavior. Here it is one the few applications that run at all times (I start it one of the first things when logging in and never quit it until I log out) and this laptop often sees uptimes of 60 days and more. I do run it as a component within Kontact, but I would be surprised if this is the important difference. >>> Same for me. KMail runs rock stable here, too (unstable, libkdepim4 >>> 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1, running inside Kontact). >>> But some of the features of newer KDEPIM (e.g. GroupDAV support) >>> would indeed be very nice. As far as I know the Debian KDE team >>> lacks manpower and therefore newer packages will takes some time. >> >> Looks to be the same version... >> >> I'm in mainland China which has artificial connectivity problems with >> google's mail servers. That *might* be the cause of my constant KMAIL >> crashes, but I never bothered to investigate further. Even when I'm >> not doing anything with KMAIL, and just have it running it in the >> background doing nothing, it will just crash all by itself and I have >> to regularly restart it. Again, that might just be because I have a >> lot of connectivity problems to the mail server that KMAIl is trying >> to use. I've tried doing everything in the book (deleting all of the >> user's config files, using a different user account on the PC, etc..) >> with no success.. I'm sure if I stop using google's mail servers from >> China, the problem will probably go away, but gmail's spam filter is >> the best I've ever seen so I keep using it anyway and just gave KMAIL >> the boot. >> >> The only reason I end up using IceDove or KMAIL is because gmail.com >> won't even load most of the time... At least with IceDove, I can write >> something up and queue it to send when it can.. KMAIL does that and >> then just crashes some time later, sometimes even losing my e-mail >> that I wrote without sending it :(. >> >> > I switched to claws-mail and never looked back. > > to go back to the main topic: does claws has card-/cal-dav support? does it integrate into KDE? i.e. can you sent file from dolphin per claws, etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50b39cd4.8070...@gmx.net
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:39:16 +0800 David Smith wrote: > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Benjamin Eikel > wrote: > > Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 16:11:21 schrieb Kevin Krammer: > >> On Monday, 2012-11-26, David Smith wrote: > >> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:00 PM, chymian > >> > wrote: > >> > > at the moment I'm tied to icedove/thunderbird which is another > >> > > sad story. > >> > > > >> > > tia > >> > > günter > >> > > >> > Yes, I agree the state of KMAIL in Wheezy is really bad.. It's > >> > *VERY* easy to make it crash 10-15 times an hour with normal > >> > operation of the program. I've also resorted to just removing > >> > it and running ice dove which is easily 1000x better in features > >> > and never crashes. > >> > >> Is this a different version than the one in Unstable? > >> Because the one in Unstable does not show that kind of behavior. > >> > >> Here it is one the few applications that run at all times (I start > >> it one of the first things when logging in and never quit it until > >> I log out) and this laptop often sees uptimes of 60 days and more. > >> > >> I do run it as a component within Kontact, but I would be > >> surprised if this is the important difference. > > > > Same for me. KMail runs rock stable here, too (unstable, libkdepim4 > > 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1, running inside Kontact). > > But some of the features of newer KDEPIM (e.g. GroupDAV support) > > would indeed be very nice. As far as I know the Debian KDE team > > lacks manpower and therefore newer packages will takes some time. > > > Looks to be the same version... > > I'm in mainland China which has artificial connectivity problems with > google's mail servers. That *might* be the cause of my constant KMAIL > crashes, but I never bothered to investigate further. Even when I'm > not doing anything with KMAIL, and just have it running it in the > background doing nothing, it will just crash all by itself and I have > to regularly restart it. Again, that might just be because I have a > lot of connectivity problems to the mail server that KMAIl is trying > to use. I've tried doing everything in the book (deleting all of the > user's config files, using a different user account on the PC, etc..) > with no success.. I'm sure if I stop using google's mail servers from > China, the problem will probably go away, but gmail's spam filter is > the best I've ever seen so I keep using it anyway and just gave KMAIL > the boot. > > The only reason I end up using IceDove or KMAIL is because gmail.com > won't even load most of the time... At least with IceDove, I can write > something up and queue it to send when it can.. KMAIL does that and > then just crashes some time later, sometimes even losing my e-mail > that I wrote without sending it :(. > > I switched to claws-mail and never looked back. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html PDF e-book: "Create Book Covers with Scribus" available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121126104811.5e50b...@locala.main
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On Monday, 2012-11-26, David Smith wrote: > I'm in mainland China which has artificial connectivity problems with > google's mail servers. That *might* be the cause of my constant KMAIL > crashes, but I never bothered to investigate further. Even when I'm > not doing anything with KMAIL, and just have it running it in the > background doing nothing, it will just crash all by itself and I have > to regularly restart it. Again, that might just be because I have a > lot of connectivity problems to the mail server that KMAIl is trying > to use. I've tried doing everything in the book (deleting all of the > user's config files, using a different user account on the PC, etc..) > with no success.. I'm sure if I stop using google's mail servers from > China, the problem will probably go away, but gmail's spam filter is > the best I've ever seen so I keep using it anyway and just gave KMAIL > the boot. How are you connecting to GMail? POP3 or IMAP? While I have two GMail accounts, using POP3 with one and IMAP with the other, I always never use the latter. The POP3 access seems to handle connectivity problems fine as far as I can tell (I have random connection drops when using "mobile broadband" on trains). The only IMAP account I am using regularily and also in connection drop situation is a Kolab account (I also get calendar and tasks through it), so it is a Disconnected IMAP: Cheers, Kevin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Benjamin Eikel wrote: > Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 16:11:21 schrieb Kevin Krammer: >> On Monday, 2012-11-26, David Smith wrote: >> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:00 PM, chymian wrote: >> > > at the moment I'm tied to icedove/thunderbird which is another sad >> > > story. >> > > >> > > tia >> > > günter >> > >> > Yes, I agree the state of KMAIL in Wheezy is really bad.. It's *VERY* >> > easy to make it crash 10-15 times an hour with normal operation of the >> > program. I've also resorted to just removing it and running ice dove >> > which is easily 1000x better in features and never crashes. >> >> Is this a different version than the one in Unstable? >> Because the one in Unstable does not show that kind of behavior. >> >> Here it is one the few applications that run at all times (I start it one >> of the first things when logging in and never quit it until I log out) and >> this laptop often sees uptimes of 60 days and more. >> >> I do run it as a component within Kontact, but I would be surprised if this >> is the important difference. > > Same for me. KMail runs rock stable here, too (unstable, libkdepim4 > 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1, running inside Kontact). > But some of the features of newer KDEPIM (e.g. GroupDAV support) would indeed > be very nice. As far as I know the Debian KDE team lacks manpower and > therefore newer packages will takes some time. Looks to be the same version... I'm in mainland China which has artificial connectivity problems with google's mail servers. That *might* be the cause of my constant KMAIL crashes, but I never bothered to investigate further. Even when I'm not doing anything with KMAIL, and just have it running it in the background doing nothing, it will just crash all by itself and I have to regularly restart it. Again, that might just be because I have a lot of connectivity problems to the mail server that KMAIl is trying to use. I've tried doing everything in the book (deleting all of the user's config files, using a different user account on the PC, etc..) with no success.. I'm sure if I stop using google's mail servers from China, the problem will probably go away, but gmail's spam filter is the best I've ever seen so I keep using it anyway and just gave KMAIL the boot. The only reason I end up using IceDove or KMAIL is because gmail.com won't even load most of the time... At least with IceDove, I can write something up and queue it to send when it can.. KMAIL does that and then just crashes some time later, sometimes even losing my e-mail that I wrote without sending it :(. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CA+7qwUkZW68P0O=7xuf8sjymeyhmrj0_2xvsyozomifvmnt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 16:11:21 schrieb Kevin Krammer: > On Monday, 2012-11-26, David Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:00 PM, chymian wrote: > > > at the moment I'm tied to icedove/thunderbird which is another sad > > > story. > > > > > > tia > > > günter > > > > Yes, I agree the state of KMAIL in Wheezy is really bad.. It's *VERY* > > easy to make it crash 10-15 times an hour with normal operation of the > > program. I've also resorted to just removing it and running ice dove > > which is easily 1000x better in features and never crashes. > > Is this a different version than the one in Unstable? > Because the one in Unstable does not show that kind of behavior. > > Here it is one the few applications that run at all times (I start it one > of the first things when logging in and never quit it until I log out) and > this laptop often sees uptimes of 60 days and more. > > I do run it as a component within Kontact, but I would be surprised if this > is the important difference. Same for me. KMail runs rock stable here, too (unstable, libkdepim4 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1, running inside Kontact). But some of the features of newer KDEPIM (e.g. GroupDAV support) would indeed be very nice. As far as I know the Debian KDE team lacks manpower and therefore newer packages will takes some time. > > The version reported here is 1.13.7 > > Cheers, > Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201211261631.14320.deb...@eikel.org
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On Monday, 2012-11-26, David Smith wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:00 PM, chymian wrote: > > at the moment I'm tied to icedove/thunderbird which is another sad story. > > > > tia > > günter > > Yes, I agree the state of KMAIL in Wheezy is really bad.. It's *VERY* > easy to make it crash 10-15 times an hour with normal operation of the > program. I've also resorted to just removing it and running ice dove > which is easily 1000x better in features and never crashes. Is this a different version than the one in Unstable? Because the one in Unstable does not show that kind of behavior. Here it is one the few applications that run at all times (I start it one of the first things when logging in and never quit it until I log out) and this laptop often sees uptimes of 60 days and more. I do run it as a component within Kontact, but I would be surprised if this is the important difference. The version reported here is 1.13.7 Cheers, Kevin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:00 PM, chymian wrote: > at the moment I'm tied to icedove/thunderbird which is another sad story. > > tia > günter > Yes, I agree the state of KMAIL in Wheezy is really bad.. It's *VERY* easy to make it crash 10-15 times an hour with normal operation of the program. I've also resorted to just removing it and running ice dove which is easily 1000x better in features and never crashes. Upstream won't look at the crash reports I'm having with KMAIL because it's an old version. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca+7qwunlynkhhzd5abkepujpxnquwezn1mhnh+ddzv1-yn2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
On 19/11/12 02:00, chymian wrote: hi, is there any chance to connect kdepim/akonadi successful to either sogo, or even better owncloud? all tries I made with kdepim 4.4.11& kdepim-runtime 4.8/experimental failed so far from my wheezy installation. how long to go, till we can test kdepim2 (>= 4.8.x.) at the moment I'm tied to icedove/thunderbird which is another sad story. tia günter kdepim is indeed stuck at 4.4.x with debian. Due to my experience and a simple web search will reveal, kmail is a sack of sad stories. Jules. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50b2b655.1050...@internode.on.net
Re: KDEPIM & Cal-/Card-DAV
anyone? Am 18.11.2012 16:00, schrieb chymian: > hi, > is there any chance to connect kdepim/akonadi successful to either sogo, > or even better owncloud? > > all tries I made with kdepim 4.4.11 & kdepim-runtime 4.8/experimental > failed so far from my wheezy installation. > > how long to go, till we can test kdepim2 (>= 4.8.x.) > > at the moment I'm tied to icedove/thunderbird which is another sad story. > > tia > günter > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50ab8980.9020...@gmx.net
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
On Mié 25 Jul 2012 06:41:42 Benjamin Eikel escribió: > Hello, [snip] > does the plan to release kdepim 4.8.4 for experimental users still exist? > As far as I can see, the source packages did not change for over a month > now [1]. Will there be any binary packages, too? It does exists. IIRC, the last time it was tried it was very crashy, so it didn't get uploaded. But please take note that I must be mistaken, as I haven't had the chance to check it for myself and my memory may be playing tricks with me ;) -- 6: Cual es el boton del mouse que permite acceder a las acciones mas comunes del manejo de archivos * Depende el tipo de accion mas comun Damian Nadales http://mx.grulic.org.ar/lurker/message/20080307.141449.a70fb2fc.es.html Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
Hello, Am Donnerstag, 28. Juni 2012, 23:54:53 schrieb Modestas Vainius: > We would like to thank you all for testing and giving valuable feedback. > kdepim 4.8.4 will shortly arrive at experimental or qt-kde.debian.net so > you can test the full KDE PIM 4.8 suite and maybe even start using it. The > plan is to upload kdepim-runtime 4.8.x and kdepim 4.8.x to backports soon > after they open for Wheezy backports (which will happen sometime after > Wheezy release). does the plan to release kdepim 4.8.4 for experimental users still exist? As far as I can see, the source packages did not change for over a month now [1]. Will there be any binary packages, too? Kind regards Benjamin [1] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kdetrunk/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Fwd: Re: [kdepim-users] Testers needed for mail filtering
Dear Debian Qt/KDE packagers, please consider to add commit d64d61b470c56b92294f6adee6d74305a217628d to any KDEPIM 4.8.(4|5) testing packages cause it aims to fix two nasty bugs with mail filtering. Thanks, Martin -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Subject: Re: [kdepim-users] Testers needed for mail filtering Date: Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2012 From: Andras Mantia To: kdepim-us...@kde.org Andras Mantia wrote: > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > >> Am Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2012 schrieb Andras Mantia: >>> Hi, >> >> Hi Andras! >> >>> I pushed some changes to the mail filtering that should address at >>> least the two most common bugs: mail content loss on piping through >>> external filters (like spam filters) and mail duplication after >>> filtering into a folder. >>> The patch is right now only in master, and although seems to work fine >>> for me, I could never reproduce the loss itself. If you are familiar >>> how to build KDE from master, please do it and give it a test. >>> You *must* restart akonadi after installing the new version. >> >> Can you give a pointer to the commit? > > https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdepim/repository/revisions/a79da6c4e5385c581a3cbbfd827629cc760ca2b0 Argh, wrong link, it is late here. Here is the correct one: http://commits.kde.org/kdepim/d64d61b470c56b92294f6adee6d74305a217628d Andras ___ KDE PIM users mailing list Subscription management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim- users --- -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201207042328.29325.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
On Thursday 28 June 2012 23:54:53 Modestas Vainius wrote: > However, given a range of mixed experiences, some > of them positive, some negative, it seems that Debian Wheezy would be > better off with kdepim-runtime 4.4.11.1 + kdepim 4.4.11.1 combination I also think that this was the right decision. On my laptop upgrading kdepim- runtime lead to Kontact using 100% CPU all the time. On my Desktop with the exact same setup, I don't have this problem. Ideas how to prevent that are welcome. In the meantime I wait for kdepim 4.8.4 and hope to finally have some more or less stable Kontact. Thanks for all your work! Torsten signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
Hello and thanks for all the work. I wanted to do some testing on the weekend but 4.4.11.1 seems to be a diligent decision also for me considering the feedback above. A question arose though: I am not sure what to do about Akunambol/Funambol. So far I am syncing kaddressbook with an iPhone I need for proessional reasons but with KDE 4.8.4 Akunambol stopped working. I do not want to use Google for syncing, and according to postings on the net Funambol and CardDAV seem to have problems together. A new instance of Akunambol cannot be compiled any more, the error message says that the moc version is too high. The developer did not answer my inquiry yet. Would OpenCloud and kdepim 4.8 be a way to sync addresses between an iPhone and kaddressbook? What data set does CardDav transfer? I did not find any specs and don't want to be limited top a LDAP set of data which I believe it is using, or am I mistaken there? Any comments welcome. Greetings, Andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fedaba6.1030...@sandpsych.at
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
Am Donnerstag, 28. Juni 2012 schrieb Modestas Vainius: > Hello, > > The decision day approaches. However, given a range of mixed > experiences, some of them positive, some negative, it seems that > Debian Wheezy would be better off with kdepim-runtime 4.4.11.1 + > kdepim 4.4.11.1 combination which, while not perfect, used to be > supported by upstream in the past. At least we know what we can expect > from it. > > We would like to thank you all for testing and giving valuable > feedback. kdepim 4.8.4 will shortly arrive at experimental or > qt-kde.debian.net so you can test the full KDE PIM 4.8 suite and maybe > even start using it. The plan is to upload kdepim-runtime 4.8.x and > kdepim 4.8.x to backports soon after they open for Wheezy backports > (which will happen sometime after Wheezy release). I think thats good for Wheezy: Use KDEPIM 4.4.11.1 by default and give the user the option to use KDEPIM 4.8.4. Thanks for offering this. It means extra work for you and your team. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206291157.35003.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
On Thursday 28 June 2012 23:54:53 Modestas Vainius wrote: > However, given a range of mixed experiences, some > of them positive, some negative, it seems that Debian Wheezy would be > better off with kdepim-runtime 4.4.11.1 + kdepim 4.4.11.1 combination How much as I'd like it to be different, I totally agree. > We would like to thank you all for testing and giving valuable feedback. Thanks for giving us the opportunity. At the very least I don't have to keep 2 calendars up to date anymore and it gives me the possibility to play with my pet-peeve ;-) > kdepim 4.8.4 will shortly arrive at experimental or qt-kde.debian.net so > you can test the full KDE PIM 4.8 suite and maybe even start using it. > The plan is to upload kdepim-runtime 4.8.x and kdepim 4.8.x to backports Awesome. Cheers, Diederik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206290025.46585.didi.deb...@cknow.org
Re: Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
On Friday June 29 2012 00:54:53 Modestas Vainius wrote: > Hello, > > The decision day approaches. However, given a range of mixed experiences, > some of them positive, some negative, it seems that Debian Wheezy would be > better off with kdepim-runtime 4.4.11.1 + kdepim 4.4.11.1 combination > which, while not perfect, used to be supported by upstream in the past. At > least we know what we can expect from it. > > We would like to thank you all for testing and giving valuable feedback. > kdepim 4.8.4 will shortly arrive at experimental or qt-kde.debian.net so you > can test the full KDE PIM 4.8 suite and maybe even start using it. The plan > is to upload kdepim-runtime 4.8.x and kdepim 4.8.x to backports soon after > they open for Wheezy backports (which will happen sometime after Wheezy > release). Hi, While my overall experience is positive, I think that using old kdepim for next stable is the most sensible decission right now. Thank for the effort and consideration for alternatives though. Luis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1535241.x68kFyRDR2@mychabol
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
Hello, The decision day approaches. However, given a range of mixed experiences, some of them positive, some negative, it seems that Debian Wheezy would be better off with kdepim-runtime 4.4.11.1 + kdepim 4.4.11.1 combination which, while not perfect, used to be supported by upstream in the past. At least we know what we can expect from it. We would like to thank you all for testing and giving valuable feedback. kdepim 4.8.4 will shortly arrive at experimental or qt-kde.debian.net so you can test the full KDE PIM 4.8 suite and maybe even start using it. The plan is to upload kdepim-runtime 4.8.x and kdepim 4.8.x to backports soon after they open for Wheezy backports (which will happen sometime after Wheezy release). -- Modestas Vainius signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
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Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
A Dimecres, 27 de juny de 2012, chymian va escriure: > hi leo, > > > I have tested it with Sogo and I have had a mixture of good result and > > bad result. > > > > As good result, kaddressbook works perfectly with the several contacts > > list that i have in my sogo server. I can create, copy and delete > > contacts without any problem. The only thing is that I'm not been able > > to see it when I create a new mail. I just seen my original resources. > > Any idea? > > > > As bad result, although I can see my calendars in korganizer, as I have > > several calendars, I have not been able to create an event in one > > specific . It seems as I have to have a global configuration for all the > > resource. However, I think that I would need more test. > > as you get different results connecting to sogo, then I did, which versions > are you running? my setup: > > sogo 1.3.16-1, > Zentyal 2.2, > ubuntu 10.4 my setup, Debian Squeeze and sogo 1.3.16-1. When I say that I got different result, I was referring about caldav and carddav. The question is about several calendars. Regards, Leo -- -- Linux User 152692 PGP: 0xF944807E Catalonia - A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206280053.48835@alaxarxa.net
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
hi leo, > > I have tested it with Sogo and I have had a mixture of good result and bad > result. > > As good result, kaddressbook works perfectly with the several contacts list > that i have in my sogo server. I can create, copy and delete contacts > without any problem. The only thing is that I'm not been able to see it > when I create a new mail. I just seen my original resources. Any idea? > > As bad result, although I can see my calendars in korganizer, as I have > several calendars, I have not been able to create an event in one specific > . It seems as I have to have a global configuration for all the resource. > However, I think that I would need more test. as you get different results connecting to sogo, then I did, which versions are you running? my setup: sogo 1.3.16-1, Zentyal 2.2, ubuntu 10.4 cheers guenter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206271334.52794.chym...@gmx.net
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
On Wednesday 27 June 2012 01:59:50 Diederik de Haas wrote: > Another issue I had with multiple calendars and multiple resources was that > a calendar of user2 got listed under user1 and most/all(?) of my events > appeared twice in my KOrganizer calendar. Looks like I cheered too soon :-/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206270234.19585.didi.deb...@cknow.org
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
On Wednesday 27 June 2012 01:17:43 Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: > As bad result, although I can see my calendars in korganizer, as I have > several calendars, I have not been able to create an event in one specific I also have multiple calendars (and also from 2 different users, both owncloud DAV resources) and that works correctly _now_ but I created my events in owncloud's web interface. Based on your mail, I tried the other way around: creating an event in Kontact/Korganizer and wanted to see in which calendar it would end up in. In the event creation dialog I couldn't find a way to select in which calendar it got created, so my guess was the Default calendar in the default resource (with the checkbox in front of it). However, I was not able to create (save) the event at all! I got a dialog saying "Please select a storage folder for this Event", but the list from which I had to select an item was empty. The only way out of that was Cancel on that dialog (which then shows an error dialog) and then Cancel on the event creation dialog. IOW: I was not able to create a new event in Kontact/Korganizer. If that's caused by 2 akonadi/DAV resources or multiple calendars I don't know (yet). Another issue I _had_ with multiple calendars and multiple resources was that a calendar of user2 got listed under user1 and most/all(?) of my events appeared twice in my KOrganizer calendar. But that issue is gone now and events are now displayed (only) 1 time and in the right calendar of the right resource. Dunno if this glitch is/was a 'general' issue or caused by the loads of tests I've performed. Cheers, Diederik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206270159.50343.didi.deb...@cknow.org
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
A Diumenge, 24 de juny de 2012, Modestas Vainius va escriure: > Hello, > > I have uploaded kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 to experimental (no kdepim itself > yet). I never expected kdepim 4.4.11 (esp. kmail 1) to work with > kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 but apparently, it does (at least for me). Therefore, > I started wondering if kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 + kdepim 4.4.11.1 might be a > good combination for wheezy especially if it brings some benefits to the > table. We still have a couple of days until Wheezy freeze (June 30) so I > would be grateful if some brave users tested this combination on their > systems and reported any problems or success stories. > > * Test if kmail, korganizer, ktimetracker, address book and the whole > kontact work as expected. > * Test if maybe any of your pet bugs have been fixed. > * Test if any other features like e.g. ownCloud (hi > Diederik! [1]) or various groupware support started to work magically. > * Test if external akonadi resources like e.g. googledata work as expected. > > We need this information in order to determine if kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 is > worth a risk at all. > > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2012/05/msg00097.html I have tested it with Sogo and I have had a mixture of good result and bad result. As good result, kaddressbook works perfectly with the several contacts list that i have in my sogo server. I can create, copy and delete contacts without any problem. The only thing is that I'm not been able to see it when I create a new mail. I just seen my original resources. Any idea? As bad result, although I can see my calendars in korganizer, as I have several calendars, I have not been able to create an event in one specific . It seems as I have to have a global configuration for all the resource. However, I think that I would need more test. My opinion is that it's a good point to have kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in Wheezy, but it's a pity that kdepim2 will not be in our next stable version. Some of the kde-qt maintainers will upload to backports kdepim2 when Wheezy will be released? Regards, Leo -- -- Linux User 152692 PGP: 0xF944807E Catalonia - A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206270117.44188@alaxarxa.net
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
On 2012-06-26, chymian wrote: > akonadi-backend-sqlite: does not install in > ~/.config/.akonadi/akonadiserverrc. (still mysql there)! sqlite backend does not do *anything* automatic. You need to do the manual configuration yourself. Just like postgresql. if you want to have it actually work out of the box, use the recommended mysql backend. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjujilg.d1u.nos...@sshway.ssh.pusling.com
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
hi, glad to hear, that there is a chance to finally get xxxDAV :) thx a lot. Am Sonntag, 24. Juni 2012, 21:32:29 schrieb Modestas Vainius: > Hello, > > > * Test if kmail, korganizer, ktimetracker, address book and the whole > kontact work as expected. > * Test if maybe any of your pet bugs have been fixed. > * Test if any other features like e.g. ownCloud (hi > Diederik! [1]) or various groupware support started to work magically. > * Test if external akonadi resources like e.g. googledata work as expected. starting with a new install in a VM: akonadi-backend-sqlite: does not install in ~/.config/.akonadi/akonadiserverrc. (still mysql there)! connected PIM to my sogo-server: initial configuration ok. shows callender & addressbooks in resources. connect to sogo via https ok. in KONTACT: its shows the calender & the entries. cannot create an entry, which get synced back. and yes, the read-only-flag is unchecked. addressbooK: does show both addressbooks (system & user). does not show ANY entries in either addr-book. - stays complete empty. so, no luck here > > We need this information in order to determine if kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 is > worth a risk at all. in my opinion, there are a lot of use-cases which cannot be handled by kdepim-runtime 4.4.x. and any effort, to get 4.8.x in is higly appreceated. thx a lot guenter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206261411.20957.chym...@gmx.net
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
Felix Lenders wrote: > Diederik de Haas wrote: > >> On Monday 25 June 2012 13:57:19 Felix Lenders wrote: >>> > I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but in the Resource >>> > Configuration screen there's a section "Akonadi Resource Settings", >>> > which is empty in my case, but if you click on "Manage Calendar >>> > Sources", you should see (or able to add) your ownCloud Calendar >>> > Source. >>> >>> Exactly. I click on "Manage Calendar Sources" and can then see the >>> ownCloud Source, I can also click on it. But I cannot add it. I have no >>> idea why... >> >> If you want to add a calendar to Korganizer/Kontact and then see it in >> ownCloud ... I haven't found a way for that (yet?). >> But if you add a calendar to ownCloud, then (after sync) it will show up >> in Korganizer/Kontact. > > No, it is already in Owncloud. It won't show up for me in Korganizer, but > it shows up in KAdressbook. Now it works for me. I gave it a new try and removed the Akonadi-GroupDAV Entry for Owncloud and added it again, but this time not via the System Settings Dialog but via the Selector in KOrganizer. Turns out it did the trick. Don't know what the problem was, though. Felix -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jsbngc$f72$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
lunedì 25 giugno 2012 Krammer ha scritto: > Since the KNotes application is not part of kdepim-runtime but of kdepim, > it will still use the old way of data access. > However, in contrast to addressbook and calendar access, notes most likely > does not have a compatibility plugin, thus will always restore its old > access configuration, this retriggering migration. > > I think it should be possible to disable the migrator for a certain type by > installing a respective global config. Future updates would have to > remove/alter that one though, to re-enable it. > > Cheers, > Kevin martedì 26 giugno 2012 It's not the ideal solution, but better than have this .local/notes folder growing insanely. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206260017.31656.valerio.pass...@unicam.it
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
Am Montag, 25. Juni 2012 schrieb Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso: > - kadressbug: I used to have problems with akonadi resources, local vcf > file worked well. With the new package, I can set up an akonadi > resource, using carddav (owncloud), still I had to try a couple of > times to create the resource. Now, it seems that it works better. > Autofilling of adress in kmail bar also works. Now I wonder whats the difference between my and your setup. For me it doesn´t yet work. Once I manage to take more time I will have a closer look at this. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206252234.09445.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
Am Sonntag, 24. Juni 2012 schrieb Modestas Vainius: > Hello, > > I have uploaded kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 to experimental (no kdepim itself > yet). I never expected kdepim 4.4.11 (esp. kmail 1) to work with > kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 but apparently, it does (at least for me). > Therefore, I started wondering if kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 + kdepim > 4.4.11.1 might be a good combination for wheezy especially if it > brings some benefits to the table. We still have a couple of days > until Wheezy freeze (June 30) so I would be grateful if some brave > users tested this combination on their systems and reported any > problems or success stories. > > * Test if kmail, korganizer, ktimetracker, address book and the whole > kontact work as expected. Seems okay so far. I had the kresource migrator running again at next login and it created an adress book for std.vcf in .kde/share/apps…, while I was already using the ~/.local/share/contacts stuff. But other than that… Ma > * Test if maybe any of your pet bugs have been fixed. Auto completion in KMail from addressbook still does not work. It once worked, but it doesn´t now. > * Test if any other features like e.g. ownCloud (hi > Diederik! [1]) or various groupware support started to work magically. > * Test if external akonadi resources like e.g. googledata work as > expected. Did not come to any of these yet. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206252230.18728.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
On Sunday June 24 2012, Modestas Vainius wrote: > Hello, > > I have uploaded kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 to experimental (no kdepim itself > yet). I never expected kdepim 4.4.11 (esp. kmail 1) to work with > kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 but apparently, it does (at least for me). Therefore, > I started wondering if kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 + kdepim 4.4.11.1 might be a > good combination for wheezy especially if it brings some benefits to the > table. We still have a couple of days until Wheezy freeze (June 30) so I > would be grateful if some brave users tested this combination on their > systems and reported any problems or success stories. > > * Test if kmail, korganizer, ktimetracker, address book and the whole > kontact work as expected. > * Test if maybe any of your pet bugs have been fixed. > * Test if any other features like e.g. ownCloud (hi > Diederik! [1]) or various groupware support started to work magically. > * Test if external akonadi resources like e.g. googledata work as expected. I have tried the new package interested on this cloudy thing. - kontact/akregator/notebooks: No change so far. - kadressbug: I used to have problems with akonadi resources, local vcf file worked well. With the new package, I can set up an akonadi resource, using carddav (owncloud), still I had to try a couple of times to create the resource. Now, it seems that it works better. Autofilling of adress in kmail bar also works. - korganizer: I had some issues adding/managing resources, problems that I already had. I made a backup and erased everything to start from zero. When importing a calendar I was given the option to merge it into one of the existing calendars. The problem was the the option to choose the calendar was given to every(?) event of the calendar. But without showing the specific event... Offline use of caldav/carddav also works without problems. I have added data to them and I will check tomorrow that the sync works. I have added akonadi resources for pop3 imap accounts, of course I have no program to make use of the resources, but I can ckeck in akonadiconsole that the syncronization is made, apparently without problems. Overall I am happy with it. Still I experienced some rough edges with addressbook and calendar, specially managing old/new resources, but I also experienced issues with 4.4.11 Best regards, Luis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206252126.43783.taber...@unican.es
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
On Monday, 2012-06-25, Valerio Passini wrote: > > lunedì 25 giugno 2012 > > > > Kontact took a little more to run but it started, almost everything is > > working out-of-the-box (it seems like a migration tool has done the > > magic) my google calendar and my google contacts are in place, just > > notes are having troubles. I'm going to look if I can fix them. > > > > Valerio > > lunedì 25 giugno 2012 > > Notes are not migrating properly, everytime kontact is started notes try to > migrate and it create a new resource inside akonadi that has something > wrong. This new resource translates into a new folder that has a maildir > structure inside .local/notes. After that, knotes shows the notes I > already have and when I create a new one, knotes changes the content of > notes.ics inside .kde/share/apps/knotes, indeed it doesn't use the new > format. Summarizing, everytime I start kontact, a new empty maildir folder > is added to .local/notes and so a new akonadi resource that are not used > at all. Since the KNotes application is not part of kdepim-runtime but of kdepim, it will still use the old way of data access. However, in contrast to addressbook and calendar access, notes most likely does not have a compatibility plugin, thus will always restore its old access configuration, this retriggering migration. I think it should be possible to disable the migrator for a certain type by installing a respective global config. Future updates would have to remove/alter that one though, to re-enable it. Cheers, Kevin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
Diederik de Haas wrote: > On Monday 25 June 2012 13:57:19 Felix Lenders wrote: >> > I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but in the Resource >> > Configuration screen there's a section "Akonadi Resource Settings", >> > which is empty in my case, but if you click on "Manage Calendar >> > Sources", you should see (or able to add) your ownCloud Calendar >> > Source. >> >> Exactly. I click on "Manage Calendar Sources" and can then see the >> ownCloud Source, I can also click on it. But I cannot add it. I have no >> idea why... > > If you want to add a calendar to Korganizer/Kontact and then see it in > ownCloud ... I haven't found a way for that (yet?). > But if you add a calendar to ownCloud, then (after sync) it will show up > in Korganizer/Kontact. No, it is already in Owncloud. It won't show up for me in Korganizer, but it shows up in KAdressbook. Felix -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js9rej$ofs$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
In data domenica 24 giugno 2012 21:32:29, Modestas Vainius ha scritto: > * Test if kmail, korganizer, ktimetracker, address book and the whole > kontact work as expected. Kontact, korganizer, kmail and address book works fine here. regards -- Marco Valli -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206251435.21557.ma...@bastardi.net
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
On Monday 25 June 2012 13:57:19 Felix Lenders wrote: > > I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but in the Resource > > Configuration screen there's a section "Akonadi Resource Settings", which > > is empty in my case, but if you click on "Manage Calendar Sources", you > > should see (or able to add) your ownCloud Calendar Source. > > Exactly. I click on "Manage Calendar Sources" and can then see the > ownCloud Source, I can also click on it. But I cannot add it. I have no > idea why... If you want to add a calendar to Korganizer/Kontact and then see it in ownCloud ... I haven't found a way for that (yet?). But if you add a calendar to ownCloud, then (after sync) it will show up in Korganizer/Kontact. HTH, Diederik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206251409.14379.didi.deb...@cknow.org
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
Diederik de Haas wrote: >> If I then try to add the appropriate Calender and >> select Akonadi-Resouce in the following Window, I am unable to find the >> OwnCloud Calender. I'd be glad if anyone has a hint. > > I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but in the Resource > Configuration screen there's a section "Akonadi Resource Settings", which > is empty in my case, but if you click on "Manage Calendar Sources", you > should see (or able to add) your ownCloud Calendar Source. Exactly. I click on "Manage Calendar Sources" and can then see the ownCloud Source, I can also click on it. But I cannot add it. I have no idea why... Felix -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js9jmu$mqh$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
A Diumenge, 24 de juny de 2012 21:32:29, Modestas Vainius va escriure: > Hello, > > I have uploaded kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 to experimental (no kdepim itself > yet). I never expected kdepim 4.4.11 (esp. kmail 1) to work with > kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 but apparently, it does (at least for me). Therefore, > I started wondering if kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 + kdepim 4.4.11.1 might be a > good combination for wheezy especially if it brings some benefits to the > table. We still have a couple of days until Wheezy freeze (June 30) so I > would be grateful if some brave users tested this combination on their > systems and reported any problems or success stories. Great news! > * Test if kmail, korganizer, ktimetracker, address book and the whole > kontact work as expected. > * Test if maybe any of your pet bugs have been fixed. > * Test if any other features like e.g. ownCloud (hi > Diederik! [1]) or various groupware support started to work magically. > * Test if external akonadi resources like e.g. googledata work as expected. I've installed it and I had no problems with KMail, Kaddressbook and Korganizer, or all of them trough Kontact. Also I could finally use my davical calendar via Akonadi Caldav support, and contacts with Owncloud via Akonadii Carddav. For what I tested it worked very well, if I found any issues I'll let you know. I can finally ditch Thundebird with Lightning for my calendar and tasks needs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206251226.44227.josep.feb...@wanadoo.es
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
On Monday 25 June 2012 09:33:46 Felix Lenders wrote: > I couldn't find any Calender Selection Window in KOrganzier It's in the bottom-left part of KOrganizer, you may have to move your mouse around in that area, since (apparently) it's not (clearly) visible in all cases, so look for a handle to enlarge that section > If I then try to add the appropriate Calender and > select Akonadi-Resouce in the following Window, I am unable to find the > OwnCloud Calender. I'd be glad if anyone has a hint. I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but in the Resource Configuration screen there's a section "Akonadi Resource Settings", which is empty in my case, but if you click on "Manage Calendar Sources", you should see (or able to add) your ownCloud Calendar Source. If that's not what you meant, could you rephrase your issue with (optionally) screenshots or sth like that? Diederik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206251231.05545.didi.deb...@cknow.org
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
On Sunday 24 June 2012 21:32:29 Modestas Vainius wrote: > * Test if any other features like e.g. ownCloud (hi > Diederik! [1]) or various groupware support started to work magically. So far it works VERY nice \o/ I don't have to keep 2 calendars anymore, a change in Kontact appears on my owncloud calendar (whichever of my 3 I use) and also on my Android phone and tablet. Or a change in a calendar on my tablet appears magically in Kontact. Or ... any other combination there is :) /me dances the jiggle I'll keep testing it and report issues if I find them, but you've already made my day! Cheers, Diederik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206251223.20837.didi.deb...@cknow.org
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
> > lunedì 25 giugno 2012 > > Kontact took a little more to run but it started, almost everything is > working out-of-the-box (it seems like a migration tool has done the magic) > my google calendar and my google contacts are in place, just notes are > having troubles. I'm going to look if I can fix them. > > Valerio lunedì 25 giugno 2012 Notes are not migrating properly, everytime kontact is started notes try to migrate and it create a new resource inside akonadi that has something wrong. This new resource translates into a new folder that has a maildir structure inside .local/notes. After that, knotes shows the notes I already have and when I create a new one, knotes changes the content of notes.ics inside .kde/share/apps/knotes, indeed it doesn't use the new format. Summarizing, everytime I start kontact, a new empty maildir folder is added to .local/notes and so a new akonadi resource that are not used at all. Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206251039.44081.valerio.pass...@unicam.it
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
domenica 24 giugno 2012 Vainius ha scritto: > Hello, > > I have uploaded kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 to experimental (no kdepim itself > yet). I never expected kdepim 4.4.11 (esp. kmail 1) to work with > kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 but apparently, it does (at least for me). Therefore, > I started wondering if kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 + kdepim 4.4.11.1 might be a > good combination for wheezy especially if it brings some benefits to the > table. We still have a couple of days until Wheezy freeze (June 30) so I > would be grateful if some brave users tested this combination on their > systems and reported any problems or success stories. > > * Test if kmail, korganizer, ktimetracker, address book and the whole > kontact work as expected. > * Test if maybe any of your pet bugs have been fixed. > * Test if any other features like e.g. ownCloud (hi > Diederik! [1]) or various groupware support started to work magically. > * Test if external akonadi resources like e.g. googledata work as expected. > > We need this information in order to determine if kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 is > worth a risk at all. > > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2012/05/msg00097.html lunedì 25 giugno 2012 Kontact took a little more to run but it started, almost everything is working out-of-the-box (it seems like a migration tool has done the magic) my google calendar and my google contacts are in place, just notes are having troubles. I'm going to look if I can fix them. Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206251024.36820.valerio.pass...@unicam.it
Re: kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 in experimental, call for testing
Hi Modestas, Modestas Vainius wrote: > I have uploaded kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 to experimental (no kdepim itself > yet). I never expected kdepim 4.4.11 (esp. kmail 1) to work with > kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 but apparently, it does (at least for me). Therefore, > I started wondering if kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 + kdepim 4.4.11.1 might be a > good combination for wheezy especially if it brings some benefits to the > table. We still have a couple of days until Wheezy freeze (June 30) so I > would be grateful if some brave users tested this combination on their > systems and reported any problems or success stories. This is great news. I gave it a try and so far everything that worked previously still works as well. And even more! > * Test if any other features like e.g. ownCloud (hi > Diederik! [1]) or various groupware support started to work magically. I tried to get OwnCloud to work. The Configration of the Akonadi DAV Groupware Resource in Systemsettings worked very well out of the box and KAdressbook also detected the Contacts. Perfect. Unfortunatelly, I am unable to get KOrganizer recognize the new Kalender. Up to now I didn't use KOrganzier at all. I couldn't find any Calender Selection Window in KOrganzier, so I deleted the korganzier files in .kde and found it after a restart of KOrganizer. If I then try to add the appropriate Calender and select Akonadi-Resouce in the following Window, I am unable to find the OwnCloud Calender. I'd be glad if anyone has a hint. Thank you very much! Felix -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js948q$u7i$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: kdepim and akonadi
On Sunday, 2011-09-04, Luca Brivio wrote:
> In data domenica 4 settembre 2011 09:34:16, Kevin Krammer ha scritto:
> > For direct syncing have a look at SyncEvolution.
> > It can both be used for syncing with a server and with devices.
> >
> > See http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/2011/09/02/gsoc-update/ for KDE
> > related news about it.
>
> This is interesting, too (I had previously been fooled up by the
> "Evolution" part!). Too bad direct syncing does not work with Android
> devices... Thanks!
SyncEvolution will eventually also get Active Sync support ("MS Exchange
Sync"), so this might help there.
Or maybe there's are SyncML app for Andriod?
Cheers,
Kevin
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Re: kdepim and akonadi
In data domenica 4 settembre 2011 09:34:16, Kevin Krammer ha scritto: > For direct syncing have a look at SyncEvolution. > It can both be used for syncing with a server and with devices. > > See http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/2011/09/02/gsoc-update/ for KDE > related news about it. This is interesting, too (I had previously been fooled up by the "Evolution" part!). Too bad direct syncing does not work with Android devices... Thanks! -- Luca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109041425.41647.luca...@infinito.it
Re: kdepim and akonadi
In data sabato 3 settembre 2011 22:46:21, Bart Visscher ha scritto: > > I second that. Indeed, it's just incredible to me that nowadays most PIM > > suites don't even plan allowing any syncing with massively spread mobile > > platforms, other than relying on cloud services! > > I hope one day I will be able not to manually copy my contacts to and > > from my devices... > > There is owncloud, you can run it anywhere you like. And it supports > CardDav and CalDav, so you can sync between devices. It even has a web > interface for quick remote lookups. See for more information > http://owncloud.org/ use the development version, the current stable > version is to old. Thank you, The main page says the features you mentioned are in development. I am really looking forward to having ownCloud in a good shape and included into Debian. Its approach is what I currently like the most, while it may look overkill to many. (Of course there is also Funambol as a SyncML server (+ e.g. Akunambol as a KDE client), anyway... nothing in Debian as yet! ;-) ) -- Luca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109041405.18647.luca...@infinito.it
Re: kdepim and akonadi
On Saturday, 2011-09-03, Bart Visscher wrote: > On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 01:26:53PM +0200, Luca Brivio wrote: > > In data marted? 23 agosto 2011 10:46:25, BasaBuru ha scritto: > > > On Lunes, 22 de Agosto de 2011 23:38:40 Dietz Pr?pper escribi?: > > > > I don't need one of these. Google sync was a nice try, right now I'm > > > > writing a Android sync that relies on something simple and not Google > > > > based. No, will never go official, just for personal usage for the > > > > moment. I only need a means to sync my phone to my desktop. Nothing > > > > more. And *no* remote storage. > > > > > > When you are publication the android sync? Is very interesting. > > > > I second that. Indeed, it's just incredible to me that nowadays most PIM > > suites don't even plan allowing any syncing with massively spread mobile > > platforms, other than relying on cloud services! > > I hope one day I will be able not to manually copy my contacts to and > > from my devices... > > There is owncloud, you can run it anywhere you like. And it supports > CardDav and CalDav, so you can sync between devices. It even has a web > interface for quick remote lookups. See for more information > http://owncloud.org/ use the development version, the current stable > version is to old. For direct syncing have a look at SyncEvolution. It can both be used for syncing with a server and with devices. See http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/2011/09/02/gsoc-update/ for KDE related news about it. Cheers, Kevin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdepim and akonadi
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 01:26:53PM +0200, Luca Brivio wrote: > In data marted? 23 agosto 2011 10:46:25, BasaBuru ha scritto: > > On Lunes, 22 de Agosto de 2011 23:38:40 Dietz Pr?pper escribi?: > > > I don't need one of these. Google sync was a nice try, right now I'm > > > writing a Android sync that relies on something simple and not Google > > > based. No, will never go official, just for personal usage for the > > > moment. I only need a means to sync my phone to my desktop. Nothing > > > more. And *no* remote storage. > > > > When you are publication the android sync? Is very interesting. > > I second that. Indeed, it's just incredible to me that nowadays most PIM > suites don't even plan allowing any syncing with massively spread mobile > platforms, other than relying on cloud services! > I hope one day I will be able not to manually copy my contacts to and from my > devices... There is owncloud, you can run it anywhere you like. And it supports CardDav and CalDav, so you can sync between devices. It even has a web interface for quick remote lookups. See for more information http://owncloud.org/ use the development version, the current stable version is to old. Bart -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110903204621.ga14...@thisnet.nl
Re: kdepim and akonadi
In data martedì 23 agosto 2011 10:46:25, BasaBuru ha scritto: > On Lunes, 22 de Agosto de 2011 23:38:40 Dietz Pröpper escribió: > > I don't need one of these. Google sync was a nice try, right now I'm > > writing a Android sync that relies on something simple and not Google > > based. No, will never go official, just for personal usage for the > > moment. I only need a means to sync my phone to my desktop. Nothing > > more. And *no* remote storage. > > When you are publication the android sync? Is very interesting. I second that. Indeed, it's just incredible to me that nowadays most PIM suites don't even plan allowing any syncing with massively spread mobile platforms, other than relying on cloud services! I hope one day I will be able not to manually copy my contacts to and from my devices... (This is not a rant towards any group of developers, of course.) -- Luca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109021326.54784.luca...@infinito.it
Re: kdepim and akonadi
Alle domenica 28 agosto 2011, Sylvain A. ha scritto: > once the package is installed: > * add a CalDAV server (e.g. DAVical,...) in the Calendar's view of > kontact * as URL : > https://www.google.com/calendar/dav/y...@gmail.com/events/ * as user > : y...@gmail.com > * as pasword : your password for y...@gmail.com Thank you very much. Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201108281456.45426.valerio.pass...@unicam.it
Re: kdepim and akonadi
Le dimanche 28 août 2011 09:58:51, Valerio Passini a écrit : > Alle venerdì 26 agosto 2011, Sylvain A. ha scritto: > > Le mardi 23 août 2011 16:11:32, Dietz Pröpper a écrit : > > > BasaBuru: > > > > On Lunes, 22 de Agosto de 2011 23:38:40 Dietz Pröpper escribió: > > > > > I don't need one of these. Google sync was a nice try, right > > > > > now I'm writing a Android sync that relies on something simple > > > > > and not Google based. No, will never go official, just for > > > > > personal usage for the moment. I only need a means to sync my > > > > > phone to my desktop. Nothing more. And *no* remote storage. > > > > > > > > When you are publication the android sync? Is very interesting. > > > > > > Probably never. > > > > Hi all, > > > > same problem here with kdepim 4.4 and akonadi_gcal_resource. I find a > > solution by adding a standard kressource providing CalDAV support in > > kdepim 4.4. I just install de deb package > > (kdepim-caldav_1.2.0-1_amd64.deb) availlable on > > http://code.google.com/p/kcaldav/ and everything works like a charm > > (in both ways) > > > > Ewilly > > Please, can you be more specific on the way you did the configuration? > The documentation provided by the plugin is not that much and I'm unable > to figure out how to make it work. Thank you > > Valerio once the package is installed: * add a CalDAV server (e.g. DAVical,...) in the Calendar's view of kontact * as URL : https://www.google.com/calendar/dav/y...@gmail.com/events/ * as user : y...@gmail.com * as pasword : your password for y...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201108281423.14494.ewi...@free.fr
Re: kdepim and akonadi
Alle venerdì 26 agosto 2011, Sylvain A. ha scritto: > Le mardi 23 août 2011 16:11:32, Dietz Pröpper a écrit : > > BasaBuru: > > > On Lunes, 22 de Agosto de 2011 23:38:40 Dietz Pröpper escribió: > > > > I don't need one of these. Google sync was a nice try, right > > > > now I'm writing a Android sync that relies on something simple > > > > and not Google based. No, will never go official, just for > > > > personal usage for the moment. I only need a means to sync my > > > > phone to my desktop. Nothing more. And *no* remote storage. > > > > > > When you are publication the android sync? Is very interesting. > > > > Probably never. > > Hi all, > > same problem here with kdepim 4.4 and akonadi_gcal_resource. I find a > solution by adding a standard kressource providing CalDAV support in > kdepim 4.4. I just install de deb package > (kdepim-caldav_1.2.0-1_amd64.deb) availlable on > http://code.google.com/p/kcaldav/ and everything works like a charm > (in both ways) > > Ewilly Please, can you be more specific on the way you did the configuration? The documentation provided by the plugin is not that much and I'm unable to figure out how to make it work. Thank you Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201108280958.51395.valerio.pass...@unicam.it
Re: kdepim and akonadi
Le mardi 23 août 2011 16:11:32, Dietz Pröpper a écrit : > BasaBuru: > > On Lunes, 22 de Agosto de 2011 23:38:40 Dietz Pröpper escribió: > > > I don't need one of these. Google sync was a nice try, right now I'm > > > writing a Android sync that relies on something simple and not Google > > > based. No, will never go official, just for personal usage for the > > > moment. I only need a means to sync my phone to my desktop. Nothing > > > more. And *no* remote storage. > > > > When you are publication the android sync? Is very interesting. > > Probably never. Hi all, same problem here with kdepim 4.4 and akonadi_gcal_resource. I find a solution by adding a standard kressource providing CalDAV support in kdepim 4.4. I just install de deb package (kdepim-caldav_1.2.0-1_amd64.deb) availlable on http://code.google.com/p/kcaldav/ and everything works like a charm (in both ways) Ewilly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201108261255.44397.ewi...@free.fr
Re: kdepim and akonadi
BasaBuru: > On Lunes, 22 de Agosto de 2011 23:38:40 Dietz Pröpper escribió: > > I don't need one of these. Google sync was a nice try, right now I'm > > writing a Android sync that relies on something simple and not Google > > based. No, will never go official, just for personal usage for the > > moment. I only need a means to sync my phone to my desktop. Nothing > > more. And *no* remote storage. > > When you are publication the android sync? Is very interesting. Probably never. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdepim and akonadi
On Lunes, 22 de Agosto de 2011 23:38:40 Dietz Pröpper escribió: > I don't need one of these. Google sync was a nice try, right now I'm > writing a Android sync that relies on something simple and not Google > based. No, will never go official, just for personal usage for the moment. > I only need a means to sync my phone to my desktop. Nothing more. And *no* > remote storage. When you are publication the android sync? Is very interesting. Thanks BasaBuru signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdepim and akonadi
Andreas Cord-Landwehr: > On Sunday 21 August 2011 09:36:02 Dietz Pröpper wrote: > > if I got that right, current (4.7) kdepim uses akonadi as a storage > > backend for everything. > > Hi, that's the most common misunderstanding about the new KDEPIM > structure: Akonadi is not the storage backend, it is a unifying cache > for several storage backends with which applications can interact. Thx for that clarification. Even though it confirms my fears. > Afaik the vCalendar file storage backend and Maildir file structure > backend are both supported by Akonadi resources as shipped with the > current (current as in shipped with KDE SC 4.7, but not yet provided by > Debian) KDEPIM releases. This allows easy adding of new resources for > various backends like, e.g., a Facebook resource. [1], Yahoo calendar > [2], Google calendar, eGroupware. I don't need one of these. Google sync was a nice try, right now I'm writing a Android sync that relies on something simple and not Google based. No, will never go official, just for personal usage for the moment. I only need a means to sync my phone to my desktop. Nothing more. And *no* remote storage. > Hence, this does not mean that the "old" storage resources will all > vanish. For instance, I currently (running a self compiled KDEPIM 4.7) > use an IMAP mail server, a vCalendar file, an addressbook as vCard > directory, an eGroupware server for addressbook and calendar (by the > Akonadi GroupDAV resource), and a Google calendar (by the Akonadi > CalDAV resource). Ack. That sounds pretty complex to me. May I send you a calendar invitation with a funnily forged UUID and pwn u? ;-) > The indexing and semantic desktop stuff then is a different topic: those > things are done by the Nepomuk framework, feeding a big Virtuoso > datasbase. For performance reasons it is possible to switch indexing of > mails off (well, then tagging and full-text search in mails is also > switched off). Ack. Full text search is gone w/o akonadi integration? If I get that right, either nepo or no indexing then that's quite a bummer for me. Sigh. And I really loved kmail. Really. Good bye, old friend. Even filter migration will be a nightmare. Why the fsck did I move away from mutt 10 years ago?! Of course I'll try on my own, wether it can still search in my 25 msg mail spool prior to abandoning ;-). > Coming back to your questions: The reason why the currently with Debian > shipped KMail application relies on Akonadi is afaik the connection to > KAdressbook, which already switched its storage system to be cached by > the Akonadi server with its 4.6 release. With the 4.7 release this > switch is also done for most of the remaining PIM applications (at > least with KMail and KOrganizer). But as with this switch all storage > access functionality moved from the KDEPIM applications to Akonadi, > using KDEPIM without Akonadi is not possible. O-kay. That translates to me that I have to suffer a even worse severe complexity explosion with future KDE. Sorry, but my head is a small one, and I like to be able to keep understanding stuff I use there ;-). Sigh. 3.5+x worked really nice, and now, after the worst bugs from KDE 4 went away, there is a whole lot of new hassles to expect. Time to go for new, manageable pastures I fear. No pun intended, Dietz signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdepim and akonadi
On Sunday 21 August 2011 at 10:54:59, Andreas Cord-Landwehr wrote: > On Sunday 21 August 2011 09:36:02 Dietz Pröpper wrote: > > if I got that right, current (4.7) kdepim uses akonadi as a storage > > backend for everything. > > Hi, that's the most common misunderstanding about the new KDEPIM structure: > Akonadi is not the storage backend, it is a unifying cache for several > storage backends with which applications can interact. > > Afaik the vCalendar file storage backend and Maildir file structure backend > are both supported by Akonadi resources as shipped with the current > (current as in shipped with KDE SC 4.7, but not yet provided by Debian) > KDEPIM releases. This allows easy adding of new resources for various > backends like, e.g., a Facebook resource. [1], Yahoo calendar [2], Google > calendar, eGroupware. > > Hence, this does not mean that the "old" storage resources will all vanish. > For instance, I currently (running a self compiled KDEPIM 4.7) use an IMAP > mail server, a vCalendar file, an addressbook as vCard directory, an > eGroupware server for addressbook and calendar (by the Akonadi GroupDAV > resource), and a Google calendar (by the Akonadi CalDAV resource). > > The indexing and semantic desktop stuff then is a different topic: those > things are done by the Nepomuk framework, feeding a big Virtuoso datasbase. > For performance reasons it is possible to switch indexing of mails off > (well, then tagging and full-text search in mails is also switched off). > > Coming back to your questions: The reason why the currently with Debian > shipped KMail application relies on Akonadi is afaik the connection to > KAdressbook, which already switched its storage system to be cached by the > Akonadi server with its 4.6 release. With the 4.7 release this switch is > also done for most of the remaining PIM applications (at least with KMail > and KOrganizer). But as with this switch all storage access functionality > moved from the KDEPIM applications to Akonadi, using KDEPIM without > Akonadi is not possible. Thanks Andreas for your explanation, So, for users who would like to sync with Google Calendar/Contacts, should they wait until KDE 4.7 is available for Sid in order to use KDEPIM 4.7 (or maybe 4.6) an then be able to use the CalDAV/CardDAV resources ? But I'm still confused about the utility of dedicated Google Calendar/Contacts resources (based on libgcal and googledata) in regards to the more generic CalDAV/CardDAV resources which could do the same work (in a user point of view). Thanks, Vincent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110832.36115.vincent.fri...@gmail.com
Re: kdepim and akonadi
On Sunday 21 August 2011 09:36:02 Dietz Pröpper wrote: > if I got that right, current (4.7) kdepim uses akonadi as a storage backend > for everything. Hi, that's the most common misunderstanding about the new KDEPIM structure: Akonadi is not the storage backend, it is a unifying cache for several storage backends with which applications can interact. Afaik the vCalendar file storage backend and Maildir file structure backend are both supported by Akonadi resources as shipped with the current (current as in shipped with KDE SC 4.7, but not yet provided by Debian) KDEPIM releases. This allows easy adding of new resources for various backends like, e.g., a Facebook resource. [1], Yahoo calendar [2], Google calendar, eGroupware. Hence, this does not mean that the "old" storage resources will all vanish. For instance, I currently (running a self compiled KDEPIM 4.7) use an IMAP mail server, a vCalendar file, an addressbook as vCard directory, an eGroupware server for addressbook and calendar (by the Akonadi GroupDAV resource), and a Google calendar (by the Akonadi CalDAV resource). The indexing and semantic desktop stuff then is a different topic: those things are done by the Nepomuk framework, feeding a big Virtuoso datasbase. For performance reasons it is possible to switch indexing of mails off (well, then tagging and full-text search in mails is also switched off). Coming back to your questions: The reason why the currently with Debian shipped KMail application relies on Akonadi is afaik the connection to KAdressbook, which already switched its storage system to be cached by the Akonadi server with its 4.6 release. With the 4.7 release this switch is also done for most of the remaining PIM applications (at least with KMail and KOrganizer). But as with this switch all storage access functionality moved from the KDEPIM applications to Akonadi, using KDEPIM without Akonadi is not possible. Greetings, Andreas [1] http://thomasmcguire.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/facebook-support-in-kdepim/ [2] http://cgbdx.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/show-your-yahoo-calendars-in- korganizer-so-easy/
Re: kdepim upgrade from unstable
Hello, On pirmadienis 30 Gegužė 2011 21:47:44 Boris Bobrov wrote: > В сообщении от Понедельник 30 мая 2011 23:16:25 автор José Manuel > Santamaría > > Lema написал: > > On Lunes 30 Mayo 2011 19:58:47 Boris Bobrov escribió: > > > > The +l10n version is providing translations. > > For all languages? Doesn't kde-l10n-* serve this purpose? kdepim has not been shipped with KDE SC since 4.5. Once kdepim returns to KDE SC, its translations will be in kde-l10n-*. -- Modestas Vainius signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdepim upgrade from unstable
В сообщении от Понедельник 30 мая 2011 23:16:25 автор José Manuel Santamaría Lema написал: > On Lunes 30 Mayo 2011 19:58:47 Boris Bobrov escribió: > > The +l10n version is providing translations. For all languages? Doesn't kde-l10n-* serve this purpose? -- WBR, Boris. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdepim upgrade from unstable
On Lunes 30 Mayo 2011 19:58:47 Boris Bobrov escribió: > Subj will use 80+ megabytes of disk space after installation. What's new > there? For example, kmails 4.4.11.1-1 uncompressed size is 8724k and > 4.4.11.1+l10n-1 - 31.6M. The +l10n version is providing translations. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201105302016.25315.panfa...@gmail.com
Re: kdepim and google integration
On Wednesday, 2011-01-26, Dietz Pröpper wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the last weekend I found some time to look into kdepim/google integration
> by means of akonadi-kde-resource-googledata.
>
> It worked nearly out of the box, just one issue remains: To update i.e.
> calendar ressources I have to trigger that update manually by means of
> akonadiconsole.
>
> Now the question - what's left to do to have the akonadi plugins
> periodically poll for updates? (firing up akonadiconsole is a little pita
> ;-)
I think the next version of KOrganizer will have an interface for configuring
that.
What you can do right now is activating interval checking through
Akonadiconsole.
To do that switch to its "Browser" tab (second tab), right click the calendar
folder and go to folder properties.
In that dialog again second tab ("Cache"), uncheck "inherit from parent" and
change the value of "interval check time" to as many minutes you want the
resource to wait between checking for updates.
Cheers,
Kevin
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Re: KDEPIM Runtime
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > Is someone actively working on migrating kdepim-runtime 4.4.5 to testing? > It's got a freeze exception, but the ia64 build seems broken. > > PTS -- http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kdepim-runtime.html > Why Not? -- http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=kdepim- > runtime > Last Build Log -- https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?&pkg=kdepim- > runtime&ver=4%3A4.4.5-1&arch=ia64&stamp=1280117387&file=log > > I could look into this, but I don't want to duplicate effort. > > It's not that important anyway. I was just trying to clean my mixed system up > by downgrading packages from unstable -> testing. This is the last package > I'm concerned about, can it be safely downgraded from 4.4.5 -> 4.4.4? > -- > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. > b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) > ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' > http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/ > I don't think anyone has looked into it. Personally, I wasn't aware of it. I gave it a quick look and it seems to me that the error is related to build order: --- Generating /build/buildd-kdepim-runtime_4.4.5-1-ia64-MjvnL3/kdepim-runtime-4.4.5/obj-ia64-linux-gnu/agents/nepomuk_contact_feeder/nepomukcontactfeeder.moc from /build/buildd-kdepim-runtime_4.4.5-1-ia64-MjvnL3/kdepim-runtime-4.4.5/agents/nepomuk_contact_feeder/nepomukcontactfeeder.h /usr/bin/moc-qt4 -I/build/buildd-kdepim-runtime_4.4.5-1-ia64-MjvnL3/kdepim-runtime-4.4.5/obj-ia64-linux-gnu -I/build/buildd-kdepim-runtime_4.4.5-1-ia64-MjvnL3/kdepim-runtime-4.4.5/obj-ia64-linux-gnu/agents/ontologies -I/build/buildd-kdepim-runtime_4.4.5-1-ia64-MjvnL3/kdepim-runtime-4.4.5 -I/build/buildd-kdepim-runtime_4.4.5-1-ia64-MjvnL3/kdepim-runtime-4.4.5/agents/nepomukfeeder -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/KDE -I/usr/include/qt4/phonon -I/usr/include/qt4/QtXmlPatterns -I/usr/include/qt4/QtXml -I/usr/include/qt4/QtWebKit -I/usr/include/qt4/QtUiTools -I/usr/include/qt4/QtTest -I/usr/include/qt4/QtSvg -I/usr/include/qt4/QtSql -I/usr/include/qt4/QtScriptTools -I/usr/include/qt4/QtScript -I/usr/include/qt4/QtNetwork -I/usr/include/qt4/QtMultimedia -I/usr/include/qt4/QtHelp -I/usr/include/qt4/QtDesigner -I/usr/include/qt4/QtDBus -I/usr/include/qt4/QtAssistant -I/usr/include/qt4/Qt3Support -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/Qt -I/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/default -I/usr/include/qt4 -D_BSD_SOURCE -DNEPOMUK_RESOURCE_STATIC -o /build/buildd-kdepim-runtime_4.4.5-1-ia64-MjvnL3/kdepim-runtime-4.4.5/obj-ia64-linux-gnu/agents/nepomuk_contact_feeder/nepomukcontactfeeder.moc /build/buildd-kdepim-runtime_4.4.5-1-ia64-MjvnL3/kdepim-runtime-4.4.5/agents/nepomuk_contact_feeder/nepomukcontactfeeder.h /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_progress_report /build/buildd-kdepim-runtime_4.4.5-1-ia64-MjvnL3/kdepim-runtime-4.4.5/obj-ia64-linux-gnu/CMakeFiles [ 0%] Generating nie.h, nie.cpp cd agents/ontologies && /usr/bin/onto2vocabularyclass --name NIE --encoding trig --namespace Vocabulary --no-visibility-export /usr/share/ontology/nie/nie.trig namespace: "http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/2007/01/19/nie#"; /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_progress_report /build/buildd-kdepim-runtime_4.4.5-1-ia64-MjvnL3/kdepim-runtime-4.4.5/obj-ia64-linux-gnu/CMakeFiles 93 --- Simply nepomukcontactfeeder.moc should have been generated *after* nie.h. Fixing it properly may not be so trivial though. Try if you want :) Regards, George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimx7dxbfx4wfg__y-v1qlaa_1lwfxvmpxbxd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: kdepim extragear googledata
I compiled it for own usage. Maybe can be useful for you, so I uploaded it here: http://code.google.com/p/kfirefox/downloads/list Some notes: - Dependencies are not specified. Those may be needed or not: libboost for c++ = 1.38 (not sure of which package is needed), libgcal0 = 0.9.1, xsltproc - Contact resource uses the full contacts list (automatically generated) not just the "My Contacts" group (the ones you added manually) - Contact resource works mostly fine both directions but had some trouble with people with multiple emails or none (under investigation) - Calendar resource crashed when created (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202728) but after restarting Akonadi worked fine. - I am not the code developer or part of the Debian-KDE team so use at your own risk Usage Instructions: - Goto "SystemSettings" > "Advanced" tab > "Akonadi Configuration" > "Add..." button and select Google Calendar or Google Contacts - Changes do not sync instantly, but you can force sync reintroducing password clicking "Modify..." button. -- Ramon Antonio Parada Skype: ramon.parada Spain: +34 651 948819 US: +1 (310) 651-8072 http://ramonantonio.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: kdepim extragear googledata
> Sveiki, > > On ketvirtadienis 06 Rugpjūtis 2009 11:17:32 Markus Becker wrote: > > Hi, > > > > one of the items of KDE 4.3 I was looking forward to is the Korganizer > > <-> Google calendar integration by > > http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/pim/googledata/calendar/ . > > According to the release announcement it is part of 4.3. I haven't found > > it yet in the Debian packages yet. Are there plans to package this? > > Extragear is not part of official KDE 4.3. FWIW, googledata has not even > been released yet (there is no tarball). And we all know how long it takes > for NEW (source) package to enter Debian. > > Simply said, announcement is misleading and confusing at very least. OK, thanks. Markus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: kdepim extragear googledata
Sveiki, On ketvirtadienis 06 Rugpjūtis 2009 11:17:32 Markus Becker wrote: > Hi, > > one of the items of KDE 4.3 I was looking forward to is the Korganizer <-> > Google calendar integration by > http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/pim/googledata/calendar/ . According > to the release announcement it is part of 4.3. I haven't found it yet in > the Debian packages yet. Are there plans to package this? Extragear is not part of official KDE 4.3. FWIW, googledata has not even been released yet (there is no tarball). And we all know how long it takes for NEW (source) package to enter Debian. Simply said, announcement is misleading and confusing at very least. -- Modestas Vainius signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdepim 4.0 ?
Hi, 2008 m. March 20 d., Thursday, Jean Parpaillon rašė: > Hi, > I can not find any information about kdepim 4.0.2 in Debian Experimental ? > What is the current status ? Are there people working on it ? kdepim has not been released with KDE 4.0 -- Modestas Vainius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdepim 3.5.0-2 on alioth
I just realize now that 3.5.0 also seems to fix http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107221 Since I was the reporter, I marked it resolved! Cheers, JD. On Monday 12 December 2005 10:26, Daniel Schepler wrote: DS > I just uploaded a new version of kdepim to alioth including updates from the DS > SVN 3.5 branch up to Friday. This should fix the kmail issues with filtering DS > to IMAP folders. DS > -- DS > Daniel Schepler DS > DS > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kdepim 3.3 in unstable When?
On August 22, 2004 11:30 am, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 04:17:33PM +0200, Alejandro Exojo wrote: > > El Domingo, 22 de Agosto de 2004 12:27, johnny geling escribió: > > > When will kdepim 3.3 enter unstable? Is there somewhere around a > > > status report why it hasn't yet entered? > > > > AFAIK, Kdepim 3.3 depends on some libraries that are only in > > experimental: > > So kdepim 3.3 could bei in experimental? > Yes it is and is currently working. Before it was having some run problmes on my testbed machine. All kinds of segfaults with the previous version but this one seems much better. I would suggest a backup before using it jik.
Re: kdepim 3.3 in unstable When?
On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 04:17:33PM +0200, Alejandro Exojo wrote: > El Domingo, 22 de Agosto de 2004 12:27, johnny geling escribió: > > When will kdepim 3.3 enter unstable? Is there somewhere around a status > > report why it hasn't yet entered? > > AFAIK, Kdepim 3.3 depends on some libraries that are only in experimental: So kdepim 3.3 could bei in experimental? Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
Re: kdepim 3.3 in unstable When?
El Domingo, 22 de Agosto de 2004 12:27, johnny geling escribió: > Hi, > > When will kdepim 3.3 enter unstable? Is there somewhere around a status > report why it hasn't yet entered? AFAIK, Kdepim 3.3 depends on some libraries that are only in experimental: http://kmail.kde.org/kmail-pgpmime-howto.html -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID 0x0B8B0BC2 http://darkshines.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
> changes and I can't get any of the conduits to link with the new Makefiles > either. So some other kind of figuring is needed. can you please send me the error messages? I'll try fix it then. -- Dirk
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Ralf Nolden wrote: > On Tuesday 18 March 2003 13:00, Dirk Mueller wrote: > > On Die, 18 Mär 2003, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > > > libkorg_holidays_la_LDFLAGS = -module $(KDE_PLUGIN) > > > Is that what's needed? > > > > Yes, there are a lot more problems with those makefiles. I'll fix it in > > HEAD, would be great if you could check compilation afterwards. > > Would be nice if we could port those changes to the BRANCH also after checking > things are ok. They're not - at least, -pim is full of compile errors since Dirk's changes and I can't get any of the conduits to link with the new Makefiles either. So some other kind of figuring is needed. -- Adriaan de Groot[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kamer A6020 024-3652272 GPG Key Fingerprint 934E 31AA 80A7 723F 54F9 50ED 76AC EE01 FEA2 A3FE http://www.cs.kun.nl/~adridg/research/
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 18 March 2003 13:00, Dirk Mueller wrote: > On Die, 18 Mär 2003, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > > libkorg_holidays_la_LDFLAGS = -module $(KDE_PLUGIN) > > Is that what's needed? > > Yes, there are a lot more problems with those makefiles. I'll fix it in > HEAD, would be great if you could check compilation afterwards. Would be nice if we could port those changes to the BRANCH also after checking things are ok. Ralf - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+dw4Qu0nKi+w1Ky8RAg4rAKCoXai+ti8MMgW/apDlQERyFSHUAwCfbRne uNM1FKai2La9ZV6zZrE2Iz4= =9m4Q -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
On Die, 18 Mär 2003, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > libkorg_holidays_la_LDFLAGS = -module $(KDE_PLUGIN) > Is that what's needed? Yes, there are a lot more problems with those makefiles. I'll fix it in HEAD, would be great if you could check compilation afterwards. -- Dirk
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Ralf Nolden wrote: > On Tuesday 18 March 2003 01:06, Chris Cheney wrote: > > On a related note those files shouldn't really be verisoned at all since > > they can only be accessed via dlopen, similiarly to the kicker applets. > > That is probably the reason I put them in kpilot as I did, since when > > they eventually get corrected only the .la and .so will remain. I wonder > > if someone could fix that in cvs... > > you're having kde modules in /usr/lib/kde3/* that are versioned. Could you > evaluate if you could remove the versioning as it seems that that isn't > necessary ? Dirk could help you check if our assumptions are correct and if > you can change the Makefile.am's accordingly. Quite right. Those are plugin modules, accessed through KLibLoader, and the Makefile.am hasn't changed in over a year: 1.20 (adridg 18-Dec-01): libnullconduit_la_SOURCES = setup_base.ui null-conduit.cc null-factory.cc This is a case of the infrastructure changing over the years and me not noticing it. I'll change it to whatever y'all need, but I'll need a hint. Actually, looking at the KOrganizer plugins, the main difference I see is libkorg_holidays_la_LDFLAGS = -module $(KDE_PLUGIN) Is that what's needed? -- Adriaan de Groot[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kamer A6020 024-3652272 GPG Key Fingerprint 934E 31AA 80A7 723F 54F9 50ED 76AC EE01 FEA2 A3FE http://www.cs.kun.nl/~adridg/research/
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 18 March 2003 01:06, Chris Cheney wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 05:28:14PM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > Ok, found it. I thought I could trust Chris :-) I've commited the fix to > > CVS and it should soon reapper in anoncvs so I can put this as an update > > into the original tarballs, rebuild and upload. > > > > Thanks for reporting !!! > > > > > > Ralf > > On a related note those files shouldn't really be verisoned at all since > they can only be accessed via dlopen, similiarly to the kicker applets. > That is probably the reason I put them in kpilot as I did, since when > they eventually get corrected only the .la and .so will remain. I wonder > if someone could fix that in cvs... Adriaan, you're having kde modules in /usr/lib/kde3/* that are versioned. Could you evaluate if you could remove the versioning as it seems that that isn't necessary ? Dirk could help you check if our assumptions are correct and if you can change the Makefile.am's accordingly. ebian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libaddressconduit.la debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libaddressconduit.so.* debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libexpenseconduit.la debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libexpenseconduit.so.* debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libknotesconduit.la debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libknotesconduit.so.* debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libnullconduit.la debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libnullconduit.so.* debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libpopmailconduit.la debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libpopmailconduit.so.* debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libtimeconduit.la debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libtimeconduit.so.* debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libtodoconduit.la debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libtodoconduit.so.* debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libvcalconduit.la debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde3/libvcalconduit.so.* > > Thanks, > Chris - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+dtD9u0nKi+w1Ky8RAoekAJ4htKv2/eJR9ro0wEENBW/wsUQByQCgtbr8 li6faVVQ8LYLxh5PZ8YeZ6M= =DH3W -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
Ralf Nolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > dpkg --purge --force-all kpilot > apt-get install kdepim-dev kpilot Ugh. Please don't suggest using force-all; it's very dangerous. force-depends is probably what you want in this case. -- I had no feelings about it. It was aloof and licked itself too much. Like my cat Mr. Trotsky. pgp3EBJ9tMNZS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 05:28:14PM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > Ok, found it. I thought I could trust Chris :-) I've commited the fix to CVS > and it should soon reapper in anoncvs so I can put this as an update into the > original tarballs, rebuild and upload. > > Thanks for reporting !!! > > > Ralf On a related note those files shouldn't really be verisoned at all since they can only be accessed via dlopen, similiarly to the kicker applets. That is probably the reason I put them in kpilot as I did, since when they eventually get corrected only the .la and .so will remain. I wonder if someone could fix that in cvs... Thanks, Chris
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 05:28:14PM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > Ok, found it. I thought I could trust Chris :-) I've commited the fix to CVS > and it should soon reapper in anoncvs so I can put this as an update into the > original tarballs, rebuild and upload. > > Thanks for reporting !!! > > > Ralf Ugh, I just realized why I didn't catch this. I forgot to test install the dev package, since nothing I build uses it. :\ Thanks for correcting it in cvs. Chris
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 March 2003 16:32, Soenke wrote: > Am Montag, 17. März 2003 15:37 schrieb Ralf Nolden: > > On Monday 17 March 2003 12:37, Soenke von Stamm wrote: > > > > dpkg --purge --force-all kpilot > > apt-get install kdepim-dev kpilot > > > > Ralf > > well, kpilot already /was/ uptodate. So the conflict is still there (see > below) Ok, found it. I thought I could trust Chris :-) I've commited the fix to CVS and it should soon reapper in anoncvs so I can put this as an update into the original tarballs, rebuild and upload. Thanks for reporting !!! Ralf > > um, and sorry for that company-sig =;) > > > Sönke > > # dpkg --purge --force-all kpilot > dpkg: kpilot: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request: > kdepim depends on kpilot (>= 4:3.1.1-0woody1). > (Reading database ... 160217 files and directories currently installed.) > Removing kpilot ... > Purging configuration files for kpilot ... > svs:~# apt-get install kdepim-dev kpilot > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > The following NEW packages will be installed: > kdepim-dev kpilot > 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. > Need to get 762kB/794kB of archives. After unpacking 2167kB will be used. > Get:1 http://ktown.kde.org stable/main kpilot 4:3.1.1-0woody1 [762kB] > Fetched 762kB in 2s (340kB/s) > Reading changelogs... Done > Selecting previously deselected package kpilot. > (Reading database ... 160120 files and directories currently installed.) > Unpacking kpilot (from .../kpilot_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package kdepim-dev. > Unpacking kdepim-dev (from .../kdepim-dev_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb) ... > dpkg: error processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-dev_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb (--unpack): > trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/libvcalconduit.so', which is also in > package kpilot > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-dev_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+dfeeu0nKi+w1Ky8RAnbDAJ90u/25ta4DGyhaKV7RTGkk/gRQ4ACeKsOK +3VGyZqI0uiSa3PfPGpBbk4= =VV7R -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 March 2003 16:32, Soenke wrote: > Am Montag, 17. März 2003 15:37 schrieb Ralf Nolden: > > On Monday 17 March 2003 12:37, Soenke von Stamm wrote: > > > > dpkg --purge --force-all kpilot > > apt-get install kdepim-dev kpilot > > > > Ralf > > well, kpilot already /was/ uptodate. So the conflict is still there (see > below) Hmm...I'll see if there is any conflict. If yes then it's in unstable too because I didn't change anything in the install files Chris is using too. Ralf > > um, and sorry for that company-sig =;) > > > Sönke > > # dpkg --purge --force-all kpilot > dpkg: kpilot: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request: > kdepim depends on kpilot (>= 4:3.1.1-0woody1). > (Reading database ... 160217 files and directories currently installed.) > Removing kpilot ... > Purging configuration files for kpilot ... > svs:~# apt-get install kdepim-dev kpilot > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > The following NEW packages will be installed: > kdepim-dev kpilot > 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. > Need to get 762kB/794kB of archives. After unpacking 2167kB will be used. > Get:1 http://ktown.kde.org stable/main kpilot 4:3.1.1-0woody1 [762kB] > Fetched 762kB in 2s (340kB/s) > Reading changelogs... Done > Selecting previously deselected package kpilot. > (Reading database ... 160120 files and directories currently installed.) > Unpacking kpilot (from .../kpilot_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb) ... > Selecting previously deselected package kdepim-dev. > Unpacking kdepim-dev (from .../kdepim-dev_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb) ... > dpkg: error processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-dev_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb (--unpack): > trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/libvcalconduit.so', which is also in > package kpilot > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-dev_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+dfYBu0nKi+w1Ky8RApWtAJ4+jAuTKgJ4xSwpfdxWCdztEnp4twCgmej7 nuYgmb8WY7C4fqSKSQLCqDk= =hIxc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
Am Montag, 17. März 2003 15:37 schrieb Ralf Nolden: > On Monday 17 March 2003 12:37, Soenke von Stamm wrote: > > dpkg --purge --force-all kpilot > apt-get install kdepim-dev kpilot > > Ralf > well, kpilot already /was/ uptodate. So the conflict is still there (see below) um, and sorry for that company-sig =;) Sönke # dpkg --purge --force-all kpilot dpkg: kpilot: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request: kdepim depends on kpilot (>= 4:3.1.1-0woody1). (Reading database ... 160217 files and directories currently installed.) Removing kpilot ... Purging configuration files for kpilot ... svs:~# apt-get install kdepim-dev kpilot Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: kdepim-dev kpilot 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. Need to get 762kB/794kB of archives. After unpacking 2167kB will be used. Get:1 http://ktown.kde.org stable/main kpilot 4:3.1.1-0woody1 [762kB] Fetched 762kB in 2s (340kB/s) Reading changelogs... Done Selecting previously deselected package kpilot. (Reading database ... 160120 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking kpilot (from .../kpilot_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package kdepim-dev. Unpacking kdepim-dev (from .../kdepim-dev_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-dev_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/libvcalconduit.so', which is also in package kpilot Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-dev_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Re: kdepim-dev file-conflict with kpilot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 March 2003 12:37, Soenke von Stamm wrote: dpkg --purge --force-all kpilot apt-get install kdepim-dev kpilot Ralf > # apt-get install kdepim-dev > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > The following NEW packages will be installed: > kdepim-dev > 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. > Need to get 0B/31.2kB of archives. After unpacking 270kB will be used. > Reading changelogs... Done > (Reading database ... 159914 files and directories currently installed.) > Unpacking kdepim-dev (from .../kdepim-dev_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb) ... > dpkg: error processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-dev_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb (--unpack): > trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/libvcalconduit.so', which is also in > package kpilot > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-dev_4%3a3.1.1-0woody1_i386.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > # dpkg -l kpilot > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold > > | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed > |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: > > uppercase=bad) > > ||/ Name VersionDescription > > +++-==-==-= >=== ii kpilot 3.1.1-0woody1 KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool > > # grep ktown /etc/apt/sources.list > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/Printing stable main > > # cat /etc/debian_version > 3.0 > > > well? =8) > > Thanks A LOT (though ;) for the hard work and those nice packages! > > > > Sönke > > > -- > _ > broadnet mediascape communications AG > competence center hannover > karl-wiechert-allee 76a 30625 hannover > fon +49-511-544419-50 > fax +49-511-544419-55 > mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.broadnet-mediascape.de > _ > > Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and attachments is > confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended only for > the use of the named recipient. Internet communications are not secure and > therefore mediascape communications AG does not accept legal responsibility > for the content of this message. If you are not the intended recipient, > please notify us immediately and then delete this document. Do not disclose > the content of this document to any other person, nor take any copies. > Violation of this notice may be unlawful. - -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. - Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+dd2pu0nKi+w1Ky8RAr9GAKCva9jUs6h1Ttl02hKvFgptuRCNnACeIboC tx8KXR8y8nqY1vSGQsHmq6g= =xJeg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kdepim & sid
Le Mercredi 12 Mars 2003 15:25, Marcin Juszkiewicz a écrit : > I installed KMail from http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-other/ but > it doesn't have addressbook. Ok - so I tried to install kdepim package > but it is not found :( Is there any respository with rest of KDE 3.1 > packages for 'sid'? Add deb http://infobeam.lnix.net/mirror/grepper/pub/kdepim/ ./ to /etc/apt/sources.list or wait that KDE 3.1.1 enters SID (better solution at the moment). You can read Chris Cheney report on the list. Thanks Chris for the report and your work. Cheers, Charles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde-france.org
Re: kdepim?
Am Sonntag, 23. Februar 2003 09:13 schrieb Robert: > So those who have already installed the other version may need to > remove them to install the official kdepim debs when they come out. > Or wait for 4:3.1.0-2. ;) > > Again, the deb line is: > deb http://phebehouse.dyndns.org/pub/kdepim/ ./ > > By all reports these debs appear to work well. Hello Robert, Thank you for these packages. I got problems to compile them from the sourcepackages myself. I got a few problems with whitespace in my /etc/apt/preferences during installation. I got unmet dependencies or E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header My preferences now look like this and works for me: # cat /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin: origin phebehouse.dyndns.org Pin-Priority: 999 #Pin: origin people.debian.org #^-- important: empty line here #Pin-Priority: 999#v-- important: without an empty # line here Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority:666 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 333 See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200301/msg03892.html Thank you again, now I got access to my addressbook. kind regards gerhard
Re: kdepim?
On Saturday 22 February 2003 12:42, James Greenhalgh wrote: > On February 21, 2003 21:36, Marco Laverdière wrote: > > Finally, here's a source that works for kdepim: > > deb http://oberlin.cems.umn.edu/kdecvs/debian/ ./ > > I maintain these debs and I just wanted to forewarn the mailing list > that that kdepim and all the debs depending on it are all cvs HEAD > for KDE. Not the kde 3.1 in sid. A kdepim for sid built against > sids libs can be found at: > > deb http://phebehouse.dyndns.org/pub/kdepim/ ./ Just a note for anyone wanting to use these debs. I had made them for myself and a few others and James asked if I would offer them on the list, which I was glad to do. They are made from Ralf's excellent sources for Woody (KDE BRANCH) compiled on sid with gcc-3.2 and sid libs of course. I have put up new packages with a different version, as the old versioning I was using would not upgrade smoothly as I first thought. The new ones are 4:3.1.0-0+branch1 which will upgrade smoothly when the new kdepim is in sid. I had originally looked at the kdelibs version in sid and mistakenly thought that kdepim would come out with a -2 versioning, which would have allowed an easy upgrade path. Apologizes for any inconvenience or confusion this will cause. So those who have already installed the other version may need to remove them to install the official kdepim debs when they come out. Or wait for 4:3.1.0-2. ;) Again, the deb line is: deb http://phebehouse.dyndns.org/pub/kdepim/ ./ By all reports these debs appear to work well. all the best, Robert aka grepper on #debian-kde
Re: kdepim?
On February 22, 2003 12:39, Tom Panning wrote: > How often are these updated? I'd actually like to run on the bleeding > edge. For future reference, is there any way to un-upgrade if a package > turns out to be broken? Hi Tom, I update these very frequently. At the minimum 4 times a month. But sometimes even more if I catch a few bugs that are really troublesome. Full instructions and information about the debs can be found up one directory: http://oberlin.cems.umn.edu/kdecvs/ I include a meta package that all my debs depend on. This makes removing my whole setup easy (apt-get remove kde-cvs-snapshot)...then you can just comment out my sources again, and apt-get install the debs from sid instead, if you find it turns out to be too broken for your tastes. I also spend alot of time on irc.freenode.net #debian-kde working out the bugs and discussing new features etc. If you're having trouble you may want to ask around there. Many of the inhabitants there run my debs as well. Cheers, James > > Thanks, > Tom -- James Greenhalgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Open Door Software Inc.
Re: kdepim?
On Saturday 22 February 2003 12:42 am, James Greenhalgh wrote: > On February 21, 2003 21:36, Marco Laverdière wrote: > > Finally, here's a source that works for kdepim: > > deb http://oberlin.cems.umn.edu/kdecvs/debian/ ./ > > I maintain these debs and I just wanted to forewarn the mailing list > that that kdepim and all the debs depending on it are all cvs HEAD > for KDE. Not the kde 3.1 in sid. A kdepim for sid built against > sids libs can be found at: > > deb http://phebehouse.dyndns.org/pub/kdepim/ ./ > > I repeat, these debs are not official and maybe a little unstable as > cvs HEAD can be at times. You have been warned :) How often are these updated? I'd actually like to run on the bleeding edge. For future reference, is there any way to un-upgrade if a package turns out to be broken? Thanks, Tom
Re: kdepim?
Marco Laverdière wrote: Finally, here's a source that works for kdepim: deb http://oberlin.cems.umn.edu/kdecvs/debian/ ./ Thanks for that Marco! I've been battling with trying to get my apps back on after uprading to debian's KDE packages with libfamc102 and kdelibs4 :) Matthew Sibson
