Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-16 Thread dann frazier
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 09:07 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 04:00:53PM +0900, Horms wrote:
   I have done a second build, with the following changes, as 
   2.6.12-5.99.sarge2
   Only the first change is relevant, URL as immediately above :)
   
  * Change kernel-source build dependancy to
kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 
   8.135.sarge1) [powerpc]
so that this package can be build on an unmodified sarge install
on non-powerpc
  * Add myself and Sven Luther as uploaders
  
  I have withrawn the 2.6.12-5.99.sarge2 packages, and the URL above
  now only has the 2.6.12-5.99.sarge1 variant.
  
  The reason for this is, despite the build dependancy, they were actually
  built with kernel-package 8.135.sarge1, so they are identical to the
  2.6.12-5.99.sarge1 packages. Furthermore, I have been advised
  by Andres Salomon and Sven Luther that kernel-package 8.135 
  cannot build these packages because because of incompatibility
  with the defconfig target - I don't know more than that.
 
 Well, defconfig is used to build some generic packages, docs and such, the fix
 is rather orthogonal to anything else, small and localized, and has no chance
 of breaking anything, the same goes for the powerpc/powerpc64 targets. I thus
 propose that we do a kernel-package 8.135.sarge1 upload to
 stable-proposed-updates, Manoj, do you have an opinion on this ? 

Or we could upload a kernel-package 8.135volatile1 to volatile...



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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-15 Thread Horms
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:51:18PM +0900, Horms wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:35:18AM +0900, Horms wrote:
  On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 09:36:50PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
   Hello,
   
   I have made available backport packages of the linux-2.6 common kernels 
   for
   powerpc for sarge. You will find all that is needed at :
   
 http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel
   
   or the apt source :
   
 deb http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel ./
   
   These packages include :
   
 1) backported kernel-package, to be able to build the powerpc 2.6.12 
   kernels.
   
 2) backported udev, which is needed for 2.6.12 and beyond kernels. I
 disabled the selinux support though, as it is not present in sarge.
   
 3) backported 32bit powerpc kernel packages. These are exactly the same 
   as
 the sid/etch ones (2.6.12-6), but i was forced to disable the 64bit
 powerpc64 version, since there is no biarch toolchain in sarge. That 
   said,
 installing the sid/etch kernels would have worked just fine, so if you 
   are a
 64bit user, please download linux-image-2.6-12-powerpc64 from etch/sid 
   by
 hand.
   
   Ok, i hope you all enjoy those.
  
  I have done an i386 build of these packages for i386, without
  modification
  
  http://packages.vergenet.net/testing/linux-2.6/
 
 I have done a second build, with the following changes, as 2.6.12-5.99.sarge2
 Only the first change is relevant, URL as immediately above :)
 
* Change kernel-source build dependancy to
  kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 8.135.sarge1) 
 [powerpc]
  so that this package can be build on an unmodified sarge install
  on non-powerpc
* Add myself and Sven Luther as uploaders

I have withrawn the 2.6.12-5.99.sarge2 packages, and the URL above
now only has the 2.6.12-5.99.sarge1 variant.

The reason for this is, despite the build dependancy, they were actually
built with kernel-package 8.135.sarge1, so they are identical to the
2.6.12-5.99.sarge1 packages. Furthermore, I have been advised
by Andres Salomon and Sven Luther that kernel-package 8.135 
cannot build these packages because because of incompatibility
with the defconfig target - I don't know more than that.

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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 04:00:53PM +0900, Horms wrote:
  I have done a second build, with the following changes, as 
  2.6.12-5.99.sarge2
  Only the first change is relevant, URL as immediately above :)
  
 * Change kernel-source build dependancy to
   kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 
  8.135.sarge1) [powerpc]
   so that this package can be build on an unmodified sarge install
   on non-powerpc
 * Add myself and Sven Luther as uploaders
 
 I have withrawn the 2.6.12-5.99.sarge2 packages, and the URL above
 now only has the 2.6.12-5.99.sarge1 variant.
 
 The reason for this is, despite the build dependancy, they were actually
 built with kernel-package 8.135.sarge1, so they are identical to the
 2.6.12-5.99.sarge1 packages. Furthermore, I have been advised
 by Andres Salomon and Sven Luther that kernel-package 8.135 
 cannot build these packages because because of incompatibility
 with the defconfig target - I don't know more than that.

Well, defconfig is used to build some generic packages, docs and such, the fix
is rather orthogonal to anything else, small and localized, and has no chance
of breaking anything, the same goes for the powerpc/powerpc64 targets. I thus
propose that we do a kernel-package 8.135.sarge1 upload to
stable-proposed-updates, Manoj, do you have an opinion on this ? 

This way volatile will be able to build the packages without going outside
stable and stable-proposed-updates, and since volatile will be auto-built, it
is the best place for such packages if we don't want to target those 2.6.12
kernels at s-p-u themselves, which we probably don't want to do.

We could do it if the stable and stable-security team worked hand in hand with
the kernel team, and if the kernel team was ready to do sarge security stuff
for both 2.6.8 and the newer kernels, since i don't think we can purely and
simply remove the 2.6.8 packages from sarge :)

I also don't think how post-2.6.12 packages would be possible, unless we
reenable devfs on them or backport initramfs or something such.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread Horms
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 07:35:48AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:18:14AM +0900, Horms wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:34:13AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
   On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:51:18PM +0900, Horms wrote:
 http://packages.vergenet.net/testing/linux-2.6/

I have done a second build, with the following changes, as 
2.6.12-5.99.sarge2
Only the first change is relevant, URL as immediately above :)

   * Change kernel-source build dependancy to
 kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 
8.135.sarge1) [powerpc]
 so that this package can be build on an unmodified sarge install
 on non-powerpc
   * Add myself and Sven Luther as uploaders
   
   Maybe we should move that stuff to the SVN, under dists/sarge/backports or
   something such ?
  
  Yes, i think that would be an excellent idea.
  perhaps just put it in dists/sarge, or if you want
  to make a distinction, dists/sarge-backports
 
 Debian-sarge is fine, what about uploading those to sarge-proposed-updates ?
 Not sure if that one is auto-built, or even easily accessible from the user
 stand-point.
 
 Maybe this is one of the things we need to discuss in oldenbourg with Joey ?

Good idea, though at this stage it seems unlikely that I will make it
there.

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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Horms wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 07:35:48AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:18:14AM +0900, Horms wrote:
   On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:34:13AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:51:18PM +0900, Horms wrote:
  http://packages.vergenet.net/testing/linux-2.6/
 
 I have done a second build, with the following changes, as 
 2.6.12-5.99.sarge2
 Only the first change is relevant, URL as immediately above :)
 
* Change kernel-source build dependancy to
  kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 
 8.135.sarge1) [powerpc]
  so that this package can be build on an unmodified sarge install
  on non-powerpc
* Add myself and Sven Luther as uploaders

Maybe we should move that stuff to the SVN, under dists/sarge/backports 
or
something such ?
   
   Yes, i think that would be an excellent idea.
   perhaps just put it in dists/sarge, or if you want
   to make a distinction, dists/sarge-backports
  
  Debian-sarge is fine, what about uploading those to sarge-proposed-updates ?
  Not sure if that one is auto-built, or even easily accessible from the user
  stand-point.
  
  Maybe this is one of the things we need to discuss in oldenbourg with Joey ?
 
 Good idea, though at this stage it seems unlikely that I will make it
 there.

Bad idea, actually, because sarge-p-u is supposed to hold potential
sarge updates and a backport doesn't meet the criteria for that.
(Herbert did the same in woody-p-u with 2.4 backports, they had to be
removed before sarge at the price of some user confusion who had t-p-u
in their sources.list.)


Thiemo


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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread Horms
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 09:25:06AM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
 Horms wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 07:35:48AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
   On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:18:14AM +0900, Horms wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:34:13AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:51:18PM +0900, Horms wrote:
   http://packages.vergenet.net/testing/linux-2.6/
  
  I have done a second build, with the following changes, as 
  2.6.12-5.99.sarge2
  Only the first change is relevant, URL as immediately above :)
  
 * Change kernel-source build dependancy to
   kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 
  8.135.sarge1) [powerpc]
   so that this package can be build on an unmodified sarge 
  install
   on non-powerpc
 * Add myself and Sven Luther as uploaders
 
 Maybe we should move that stuff to the SVN, under 
 dists/sarge/backports or
 something such ?

Yes, i think that would be an excellent idea.
perhaps just put it in dists/sarge, or if you want
to make a distinction, dists/sarge-backports
   
   Debian-sarge is fine, what about uploading those to 
   sarge-proposed-updates ?
   Not sure if that one is auto-built, or even easily accessible from the 
   user
   stand-point.
   
   Maybe this is one of the things we need to discuss in oldenbourg with 
   Joey ?
  
  Good idea, though at this stage it seems unlikely that I will make it
  there.
 
 Bad idea, actually, because sarge-p-u is supposed to hold potential
 sarge updates and a backport doesn't meet the criteria for that.
 (Herbert did the same in woody-p-u with 2.4 backports, they had to be
 removed before sarge at the price of some user confusion who had t-p-u
 in their sources.list.)

Ok, bad idea.

(Though to clarify, when I said Good idea, i was refering to discussion
 with Joey at Oldenbourg)

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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 09:25:06AM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
 Bad idea, actually, because sarge-p-u is supposed to hold potential
 sarge updates and a backport doesn't meet the criteria for that.

Well, this is something that could be open for discussion, don't you think,
but in any case, we need an official and preferably auto-built repository for
this kind of things.

 (Herbert did the same in woody-p-u with 2.4 backports, they had to be
 removed before sarge at the price of some user confusion who had t-p-u
 in their sources.list.)

Well. The packages have smaller version than the sid ones, so there should be
no such confusion.

BTW, how are the mips/mipsel integration going ? Any chance to get those in
for 2.6.12-7 ? Do you need any help or something ? Will you be in Oldenbourg
this year ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Sven Luther wrote:
[snip]
  (Herbert did the same in woody-p-u with 2.4 backports, they had to be
  removed before sarge at the price of some user confusion who had t-p-u
  in their sources.list.)
 
 Well. The packages have smaller version than the sid ones, so there should be
 no such confusion.

The problem is a different one. Such a package will have a higher version
number than the next stable security update. It will also block legitimate
sarge updates because of its version unless it is removed, which is an
unattractive option because the users who need exactly this version can't
reinstall it any more, and the package still blocks security updates on
every machine it was installed.

 BTW, how are the mips/mipsel integration going ?

Experimental has now a linux-patch-2.6-mips package.

 Any chance to get those in
 for 2.6.12-7 ? Do you need any help or something ? Will you be in Oldenbourg
 this year ?

Yes, I'll see you there.


Thiemo


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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:31:06AM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
 Sven Luther wrote:
 [snip]
   (Herbert did the same in woody-p-u with 2.4 backports, they had to be
   removed before sarge at the price of some user confusion who had t-p-u
   in their sources.list.)
  
  Well. The packages have smaller version than the sid ones, so there should 
  be
  no such confusion.
 
 The problem is a different one. Such a package will have a higher version
 number than the next stable security update. It will also block legitimate

He, they will even have a different package name, so ...

But maybe you mean the meta-packages, we could chose not to include them, but
then if the kernel team and the security team work more closely together, we
could even provide security for those kernels.

 sarge updates because of its version unless it is removed, which is an
 unattractive option because the users who need exactly this version can't
 reinstall it any more, and the package still blocks security updates on
 every machine it was installed.

Only the metapackages, and sure, we can remove them from the backports. All
the other cases have the kernel version embedded in their package name, so
there could be no such issue.

  BTW, how are the mips/mipsel integration going ?
 
 Experimental has now a linux-patch-2.6-mips package.

What is still blocking at this time to get mips integrated into linux-2.6 ?
The last time this came over, i think most of the issues you mentioned as
blocking where solved in the current batch of packages, but maybe there are
soem remaining, could you do a new list, so we can look them over and fix them
if needed ?

  Any chance to get those in
  for 2.6.12-7 ? Do you need any help or something ? Will you be in Oldenbourg
  this year ?
 
 Yes, I'll see you there.

Cool, i will bring my asus WL-HDD2.5 box, which supposedly has a mips chip on
it (broadcom one), and we can try getting linux and a debian derivative
working on it. Hey, i would even sponsor such a box to someone interested in
gettint a real debian on it.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread Horms
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:59:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:31:06AM +0200, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
  Sven Luther wrote:
  [snip]
(Herbert did the same in woody-p-u with 2.4 backports, they had to be
removed before sarge at the price of some user confusion who had t-p-u
in their sources.list.)
   
   Well. The packages have smaller version than the sid ones, so there 
   should be
   no such confusion.
  
  The problem is a different one. Such a package will have a higher version
  number than the next stable security update. It will also block legitimate
 
 He, they will even have a different package name, so ...
 
 But maybe you mean the meta-packages, we could chose not to include them, but
 then if the kernel team and the security team work more closely together, we
 could even provide security for those kernels.
 
  sarge updates because of its version unless it is removed, which is an
  unattractive option because the users who need exactly this version can't
  reinstall it any more, and the package still blocks security updates on
  every machine it was installed.
 
 Only the metapackages, and sure, we can remove them from the backports. All
 the other cases have the kernel version embedded in their package name, so
 there could be no such issue.
 
   BTW, how are the mips/mipsel integration going ?
  
  Experimental has now a linux-patch-2.6-mips package.
 
 What is still blocking at this time to get mips integrated into linux-2.6 ?
 The last time this came over, i think most of the issues you mentioned as
 blocking where solved in the current batch of packages, but maybe there are
 soem remaining, could you do a new list, so we can look them over and fix them
 if needed ?
 
   Any chance to get those in
   for 2.6.12-7 ? Do you need any help or something ? Will you be in 
   Oldenbourg
   this year ?

I was under the impression that 2.6.13-1 is well under way and
that there is unlikely to be a 2.6.12-7. Has this situation changed?

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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 06:05:38PM +0900, Horms wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:59:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Any chance to get those in
for 2.6.12-7 ? Do you need any help or something ? Will you be in 
Oldenbourg
this year ?
 
 I was under the impression that 2.6.13-1 is well under way and
 that there is unlikely to be a 2.6.12-7. Has this situation changed?

Not really, altough we have a week at least, and i think it would be good to
have both, but more important Thiemo mentioned that mips patches where not yet
2.6.13 ready, and he prefered to get them integrated with 2.6.12 first.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread Horms
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:15:33AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 06:05:38PM +0900, Horms wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:59:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 Any chance to get those in
 for 2.6.12-7 ? Do you need any help or something ? Will you be in 
 Oldenbourg
 this year ?
  
  I was under the impression that 2.6.13-1 is well under way and
  that there is unlikely to be a 2.6.12-7. Has this situation changed?
 
 Not really, altough we have a week at least, and i think it would be good to
 have both, but more important Thiemo mentioned that mips patches where not yet
 2.6.13 ready, and he prefered to get them integrated with 2.6.12 first.

I'm pretty keen on the idea of maintaining fewer branches rather than
more. However, the reason that I asked is that there are some 2.6.13.1
changes that should go into 2.6.12-7 if it is to be released. 

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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 06:30:50PM +0900, Horms wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:15:33AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 06:05:38PM +0900, Horms wrote:
   On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:59:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
  Any chance to get those in
  for 2.6.12-7 ? Do you need any help or something ? Will you be in 
  Oldenbourg
  this year ?
   
   I was under the impression that 2.6.13-1 is well under way and
   that there is unlikely to be a 2.6.12-7. Has this situation changed?
  
  Not really, altough we have a week at least, and i think it would be good to
  have both, but more important Thiemo mentioned that mips patches where not 
  yet
  2.6.13 ready, and he prefered to get them integrated with 2.6.12 first.
 
 I'm pretty keen on the idea of maintaining fewer branches rather than
 more. However, the reason that I asked is that there are some 2.6.13.1
 changes that should go into 2.6.12-7 if it is to be released. 

Andres mentioned we should get 2.6.12-7 out ASAP, so i am not entirely sure
about this. I would vote for this too, and maybe wait for 2.6.13 until we get
the init* issue sorted out.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread dann frazier
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 12:41 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 Andres mentioned we should get 2.6.12-7 out ASAP, so i am not entirely sure
 about this. I would vote for this too, and maybe wait for 2.6.13 until we get
 the init* issue sorted out.

I just committed a fix to .12  .13 that repairs a problem that made
both uniprocessor ia64 flavors useless, so I'd like to see something
sooner than later to avoid causing more unbootable systems.  I assume a
2.6.12-7 would be the fastest route, so I vote for that.






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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread dann frazier
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 11:18 +0900, Horms wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:34:13AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:51:18PM +0900, Horms wrote:
http://packages.vergenet.net/testing/linux-2.6/
   
   I have done a second build, with the following changes, as 
   2.6.12-5.99.sarge2
   Only the first change is relevant, URL as immediately above :)
   
  * Change kernel-source build dependancy to
kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 
   8.135.sarge1) [powerpc]
so that this package can be build on an unmodified sarge install
on non-powerpc
  * Add myself and Sven Luther as uploaders
  
  Maybe we should move that stuff to the SVN, under dists/sarge/backports or
  something such ?

Having backports in the name (sarge/backports or sarge-backports) sounds
better to me.  When etch ships we'll have linux-2.6 under dists/etch
(under current conventions) - if we wanna add a backport of a newer
version, we'll have a namespace conflict.  (Ok, that's a ways in the
future, but...)

They are also pretty descriptive names which should help avoid
confusion.



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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread dann frazier
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 11:18 +0900, Horms wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:34:13AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:51:18PM +0900, Horms wrote:
http://packages.vergenet.net/testing/linux-2.6/
   
   I have done a second build, with the following changes, as 
   2.6.12-5.99.sarge2
   Only the first change is relevant, URL as immediately above :)
   
  * Change kernel-source build dependancy to
kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 
   8.135.sarge1) [powerpc]
so that this package can be build on an unmodified sarge install
on non-powerpc
  * Add myself and Sven Luther as uploaders
  
  Maybe we should move that stuff to the SVN, under dists/sarge/backports or
  something such ?
 
 Yes, i think that would be an excellent idea.
 perhaps just put it in dists/sarge, or if you want
 to make a distinction, dists/sarge-backports

(cc list trimmed)
I started work on the latter by svn_load_dirs'ing sarge1 into place.  I
can do the same w/ sarge2 once I can get at the source.



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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-14 Thread Horms
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 04:48:46PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 12:41 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
  Andres mentioned we should get 2.6.12-7 out ASAP, so i am not entirely sure
  about this. I would vote for this too, and maybe wait for 2.6.13 until we 
  get
  the init* issue sorted out.
 
 I just committed a fix to .12  .13 that repairs a problem that made
 both uniprocessor ia64 flavors useless, so I'd like to see something
 sooner than later to avoid causing more unbootable systems.  I assume a
 2.6.12-7 would be the fastest route, so I vote for that.

Ok, it sounds increasingly likely that 2.6.12-7 is going to happen.
I'll go ahead and deal with the 2.6.13.1 patches that are appropriate.

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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-13 Thread Horms
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:35:18AM +0900, Horms wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 09:36:50PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I have made available backport packages of the linux-2.6 common kernels for
  powerpc for sarge. You will find all that is needed at :
  
http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel
  
  or the apt source :
  
deb http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel ./
  
  These packages include :
  
1) backported kernel-package, to be able to build the powerpc 2.6.12 
  kernels.
  
2) backported udev, which is needed for 2.6.12 and beyond kernels. I
disabled the selinux support though, as it is not present in sarge.
  
3) backported 32bit powerpc kernel packages. These are exactly the same as
the sid/etch ones (2.6.12-6), but i was forced to disable the 64bit
powerpc64 version, since there is no biarch toolchain in sarge. That said,
installing the sid/etch kernels would have worked just fine, so if you 
  are a
64bit user, please download linux-image-2.6-12-powerpc64 from etch/sid by
hand.
  
  Ok, i hope you all enjoy those.
 
 I have done an i386 build of these packages for i386, without
 modification
 
 http://packages.vergenet.net/testing/linux-2.6/

I have done a second build, with the following changes, as 2.6.12-5.99.sarge2
Only the first change is relevant, URL as immediately above :)

   * Change kernel-source build dependancy to
 kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 8.135.sarge1) 
[powerpc]
 so that this package can be build on an unmodified sarge install
 on non-powerpc
   * Add myself and Sven Luther as uploaders

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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-13 Thread Horms
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:34:13AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:51:18PM +0900, Horms wrote:
   http://packages.vergenet.net/testing/linux-2.6/
  
  I have done a second build, with the following changes, as 
  2.6.12-5.99.sarge2
  Only the first change is relevant, URL as immediately above :)
  
 * Change kernel-source build dependancy to
   kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 
  8.135.sarge1) [powerpc]
   so that this package can be build on an unmodified sarge install
   on non-powerpc
 * Add myself and Sven Luther as uploaders
 
 Maybe we should move that stuff to the SVN, under dists/sarge/backports or
 something such ?

Yes, i think that would be an excellent idea.
perhaps just put it in dists/sarge, or if you want
to make a distinction, dists/sarge-backports

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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-13 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 11:18:14AM +0900, Horms wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:34:13AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:51:18PM +0900, Horms wrote:
http://packages.vergenet.net/testing/linux-2.6/
   
   I have done a second build, with the following changes, as 
   2.6.12-5.99.sarge2
   Only the first change is relevant, URL as immediately above :)
   
  * Change kernel-source build dependancy to
kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 
   8.135.sarge1) [powerpc]
so that this package can be build on an unmodified sarge install
on non-powerpc
  * Add myself and Sven Luther as uploaders
  
  Maybe we should move that stuff to the SVN, under dists/sarge/backports or
  something such ?
 
 Yes, i think that would be an excellent idea.
 perhaps just put it in dists/sarge, or if you want
 to make a distinction, dists/sarge-backports

Debian-sarge is fine, what about uploading those to sarge-proposed-updates ?
Not sure if that one is auto-built, or even easily accessible from the user
stand-point.

Maybe this is one of the things we need to discuss in oldenbourg with Joey ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-12 Thread Horms
On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 09:36:50PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have made available backport packages of the linux-2.6 common kernels for
 powerpc for sarge. You will find all that is needed at :
 
   http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel
 
 or the apt source :
 
   deb http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel ./
 
 These packages include :
 
   1) backported kernel-package, to be able to build the powerpc 2.6.12 
 kernels.
 
   2) backported udev, which is needed for 2.6.12 and beyond kernels. I
   disabled the selinux support though, as it is not present in sarge.
 
   3) backported 32bit powerpc kernel packages. These are exactly the same as
   the sid/etch ones (2.6.12-6), but i was forced to disable the 64bit
   powerpc64 version, since there is no biarch toolchain in sarge. That said,
   installing the sid/etch kernels would have worked just fine, so if you are a
   64bit user, please download linux-image-2.6-12-powerpc64 from etch/sid by
   hand.
 
 Ok, i hope you all enjoy those.

I am currently doing a build of these on i386, and will
make them available when they are ready, hopefully in the next
few hours.

One thing I am wondering is if it makes sense
to make the kernel-package build dependancy as follows,
as it would allow the package to be built on a vanilla
sarge for non-powerpc arches. 

kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 8.135.sarge1) 
[powerpc]

N.B: I'm not sure if thats even legal, though it does seem to work.
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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-12 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 04:50:33PM +0900, Horms wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 09:36:50PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I have made available backport packages of the linux-2.6 common kernels for
  powerpc for sarge. You will find all that is needed at :
  
http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel
  
  or the apt source :
  
deb http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel ./
  
  These packages include :
  
1) backported kernel-package, to be able to build the powerpc 2.6.12 
  kernels.
  
2) backported udev, which is needed for 2.6.12 and beyond kernels. I
disabled the selinux support though, as it is not present in sarge.
  
3) backported 32bit powerpc kernel packages. These are exactly the same as
the sid/etch ones (2.6.12-6), but i was forced to disable the 64bit
powerpc64 version, since there is no biarch toolchain in sarge. That said,
installing the sid/etch kernels would have worked just fine, so if you 
  are a
64bit user, please download linux-image-2.6-12-powerpc64 from etch/sid by
hand.
  
  Ok, i hope you all enjoy those.
 
 I am currently doing a build of these on i386, and will
 make them available when they are ready, hopefully in the next
 few hours.
 
 One thing I am wondering is if it makes sense
 to make the kernel-package build dependancy as follows,
 as it would allow the package to be built on a vanilla
 sarge for non-powerpc arches. 
 
 kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 8.135.sarge1) 
 [powerpc]

I did another change, but maybe it was not needed, so i think the above is a
safe bet. If it builds for you, i will try it locallly.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-12 Thread Horms
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:00:56AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 04:50:33PM +0900, Horms wrote:
  On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 09:36:50PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
   Hello,
   
   I have made available backport packages of the linux-2.6 common kernels 
   for
   powerpc for sarge. You will find all that is needed at :
   
 http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel
   
   or the apt source :
   
 deb http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel ./
   
   These packages include :
   
 1) backported kernel-package, to be able to build the powerpc 2.6.12 
   kernels.
   
 2) backported udev, which is needed for 2.6.12 and beyond kernels. I
 disabled the selinux support though, as it is not present in sarge.
   
 3) backported 32bit powerpc kernel packages. These are exactly the same 
   as
 the sid/etch ones (2.6.12-6), but i was forced to disable the 64bit
 powerpc64 version, since there is no biarch toolchain in sarge. That 
   said,
 installing the sid/etch kernels would have worked just fine, so if you 
   are a
 64bit user, please download linux-image-2.6-12-powerpc64 from etch/sid 
   by
 hand.
   
   Ok, i hope you all enjoy those.
  
  I am currently doing a build of these on i386, and will
  make them available when they are ready, hopefully in the next
  few hours.
  
  One thing I am wondering is if it makes sense
  to make the kernel-package build dependancy as follows,
  as it would allow the package to be built on a vanilla
  sarge for non-powerpc arches. 
  
  kernel-package (= 8.135) [!powerpc] | kernel-package (= 8.135.sarge1) 
  [powerpc]
 
 I did another change, but maybe it was not needed, so i think the above is a
 safe bet. If it builds for you, i will try it locallly.

Actually, I ended up installing your package, as it was easeir than
working out how to get pbuilder to build a modified source.
I'll finish that build and then try again.

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Re: Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-12 Thread Horms
On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 09:36:50PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have made available backport packages of the linux-2.6 common kernels for
 powerpc for sarge. You will find all that is needed at :
 
   http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel
 
 or the apt source :
 
   deb http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel ./
 
 These packages include :
 
   1) backported kernel-package, to be able to build the powerpc 2.6.12 
 kernels.
 
   2) backported udev, which is needed for 2.6.12 and beyond kernels. I
   disabled the selinux support though, as it is not present in sarge.
 
   3) backported 32bit powerpc kernel packages. These are exactly the same as
   the sid/etch ones (2.6.12-6), but i was forced to disable the 64bit
   powerpc64 version, since there is no biarch toolchain in sarge. That said,
   installing the sid/etch kernels would have worked just fine, so if you are a
   64bit user, please download linux-image-2.6-12-powerpc64 from etch/sid by
   hand.
 
 Ok, i hope you all enjoy those.

I have done an i386 build of these packages for i386, without
modification

http://packages.vergenet.net/testing/linux-2.6/

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Announcing powerpc backport 2.6.12-6 kernel package for sarge

2005-09-10 Thread Sven Luther
Hello,

I have made available backport packages of the linux-2.6 common kernels for
powerpc for sarge. You will find all that is needed at :

  http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel

or the apt source :

  deb http://people.debian.org/~luther/kernel ./

These packages include :

  1) backported kernel-package, to be able to build the powerpc 2.6.12 kernels.

  2) backported udev, which is needed for 2.6.12 and beyond kernels. I
  disabled the selinux support though, as it is not present in sarge.

  3) backported 32bit powerpc kernel packages. These are exactly the same as
  the sid/etch ones (2.6.12-6), but i was forced to disable the 64bit
  powerpc64 version, since there is no biarch toolchain in sarge. That said,
  installing the sid/etch kernels would have worked just fine, so if you are a
  64bit user, please download linux-image-2.6-12-powerpc64 from etch/sid by
  hand.

Ok, i hope you all enjoy those.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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