Re: Bug#358625: debian-kernel-devel or debian-devel-kernel?

2006-05-14 Thread Jurij Smakov

Hello listmasters,

I believe that we have settled all the issues regarding the request for 
creation of debian-kernel-devel. In spite of that, no comments from 
listmasters have been received since April 17th, and no visible action has 
been taken. Is there still some kind of showstopper?


Best regards,

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Re: Bug#358625: debian-kernel-devel or debian-devel-kernel?

2006-04-17 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Thiemo Seufer) hast geschrieben:

  what about that?
  
  debian-devel-kernel@

  I would personally prefer debian-kernel-devel, but in the end of the day 
  it is not that important. If you have any reasons to prefer 
  debian-devel-kernel over debian-kernel-devel, go ahead with it. We are 
  drowning in bug traffic on debian-kernel, so i'm pretty sure that the new 
  list, whatever the name is, will be welcome :-).
 
 I would also prefer debian-kernel-devel, just because it sorts the
 mbox names nicely together. :-)

:-)

debian-kernel-maint?

on second thought, we run in the problem that Debian these days
supports more than one kernel, which already lead to changes of
package names.

Yours,
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Re: Bug#358625: debian-kernel-devel or debian-devel-kernel?

2006-04-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 11:30:46AM -0500, Cord Beermann wrote:
 Hallo! Du (Thiemo Seufer) hast geschrieben:
 
   what about that?
   
   debian-devel-kernel@
 
   I would personally prefer debian-kernel-devel, but in the end of the day 
   it is not that important. If you have any reasons to prefer 
   debian-devel-kernel over debian-kernel-devel, go ahead with it. We are 
   drowning in bug traffic on debian-kernel, so i'm pretty sure that the new 
   list, whatever the name is, will be welcome :-).
  
  I would also prefer debian-kernel-devel, just because it sorts the
  mbox names nicely together. :-)
 
 :-)
 
 debian-kernel-maint?

debian-kernel-bugs ?

If this is to hold the bug reports, it is more logical. The debian-kernel is
by definition a devel list, so having d-k-fdevel in addition will probabluy be
confusing.

 on second thought, we run in the problem that Debian these days
 supports more than one kernel, which already lead to changes of
 package names.

Well; the idea was that this list was open to all debian kernels, not just the
linux ones. This didn'r really happen though, but i think it is still true.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Bug#358625: debian-kernel-devel or debian-devel-kernel?

2006-04-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Sven Luther wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 11:30:46AM -0500, Cord Beermann wrote:
  Hallo! Du (Thiemo Seufer) hast geschrieben:
  
what about that?

debian-devel-kernel@
  
I would personally prefer debian-kernel-devel, but in the end of the 
day 
it is not that important. If you have any reasons to prefer 
debian-devel-kernel over debian-kernel-devel, go ahead with it. We are 
drowning in bug traffic on debian-kernel, so i'm pretty sure that the 
new 
list, whatever the name is, will be welcome :-).
   
   I would also prefer debian-kernel-devel, just because it sorts the
   mbox names nicely together. :-)
  
  :-)
  
  debian-kernel-maint?
 
 debian-kernel-bugs ?
 
 If this is to hold the bug reports, it is more logical. The debian-kernel is
 by definition a devel list, so having d-k-fdevel in addition will probabluy be
 confusing.

The point is to *keep* d-k the bug report list instead of trying to
re-route the bug reports for all kernels released ever.


Thiemo


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Re: debian-kernel-devel or debian-devel-kernel?

2006-04-17 Thread maximilian attems
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, Thiemo Seufer wrote:

 Jurij Smakov wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Cord Beerman wrote:
  
  what about that?
  
  debian-devel-kernel@
  
  Cord
  
  I would personally prefer debian-kernel-devel, but in the end of the day 
  it is not that important. If you have any reasons to prefer 
  debian-devel-kernel over debian-kernel-devel, go ahead with it. We are 
  drowning in bug traffic on debian-kernel, so i'm pretty sure that the new 
  list, whatever the name is, will be welcome :-).
 
 I would also prefer debian-kernel-devel, just because it sorts the
 mbox names nicely together. :-)
 
 
 Thiemo

thirded

but i agree that anyway we'll be happy with the new list. :)

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Re: Bug#358625: debian-kernel-devel or debian-devel-kernel?

2006-04-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 06:52:27PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
  debian-kernel-bugs ?
  
  If this is to hold the bug reports, it is more logical. The debian-kernel is
  by definition a devel list, so having d-k-fdevel in addition will probabluy 
  be
  confusing.
 
 The point is to *keep* d-k the bug report list instead of trying to
 re-route the bug reports for all kernels released ever.

A good point, still i worry, debian-kernel doesn't sound like a bug mailing
list, so newcomers may be surprised.

Maybe start using debian-kernel-bugs and debian-kernel-devel, and let
debian-kernel become unused (and redirect it to debian-kernel-bugs or
something.

On the other hand, maybe we should just promote proper procmail rules to
filter out bug reports :)

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Bug#358625: debian-kernel-devel or debian-devel-kernel?

2006-04-17 Thread Jurij Smakov

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, Sven Luther wrote:


A good point, still i worry, debian-kernel doesn't sound like a bug mailing
list, so newcomers may be surprised.


It is not intended as a bug-only mailing list. d-k will still remain a 
primary point of contact for the kernel team for users. And discussions 
on d-k-devel are not going to be of much interest to anyone outside the 
kernel team.



Maybe start using debian-kernel-bugs and debian-kernel-devel, and let
debian-kernel become unused (and redirect it to debian-kernel-bugs or
something.


Please do not make it more complicated than necessary. The current setup 
is fine, we just need a list with a bit less traffic to discuss the 
development issues.


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Re: debian-kernel-devel or debian-devel-kernel?

2006-04-16 Thread Jurij Smakov

Hi,

Cord Beerman wrote:


what about that?

debian-devel-kernel@

Cord


I would personally prefer debian-kernel-devel, but in the end of the day 
it is not that important. If you have any reasons to prefer 
debian-devel-kernel over debian-kernel-devel, go ahead with it. We are 
drowning in bug traffic on debian-kernel, so i'm pretty sure that the new 
list, whatever the name is, will be welcome :-).


Best regards,

Jurij Smakov[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Kernel Team
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Re: debian-kernel-devel or debian-devel-kernel?

2006-04-16 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Jurij Smakov wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Cord Beerman wrote:
 
 what about that?
 
 debian-devel-kernel@
 
 Cord
 
 I would personally prefer debian-kernel-devel, but in the end of the day 
 it is not that important. If you have any reasons to prefer 
 debian-devel-kernel over debian-kernel-devel, go ahead with it. We are 
 drowning in bug traffic on debian-kernel, so i'm pretty sure that the new 
 list, whatever the name is, will be welcome :-).

I would also prefer debian-kernel-devel, just because it sorts the
mbox names nicely together. :-)


Thiemo


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