Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-08-15 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2012-07-31 11:02, Niels Thykier wrote:
> On 2012-07-18 13:34, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> There are still 2 problems remaining: lestiff2 (patch in BTS) and cyrus-sasl
>> (needs a sourcefull upload to fix binNMU / multiarch problem).
>>
> 
> [...]
> 
> It is my understanding that lesstif2 is the last M-A conversion needed
> for ia32-libs.  Assuming the changes to lesstif2 and mtink are
> reasonable, cyrus-sasl just needs a "no-change" upload and ia32-libs is
> good to go.
> 

mtink is in testing, cyrus-sasl2 is fixed in sid with an unblock.
lesstif2 does not have an unblock, but assuming it got one, it could
migrate with the next Britney run.

>> [...]
>>
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677762
>>
>> The number of issues have gone down but not far enough yet. Most
>> critical and trivial there is:
>>
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650777
>>
>> That one prevents ia32-libs-gtk to be installable with a dependency on
>> libgnomecanvas and 3rd party binaries still depend on that.
>>
>> [...]
> 
> 
> It seems like most of those bugs are libraries needing converted to M-A
> (i.e. usr/lib -> usr/lib/$MADIR) and #650777 is the "exception".
> 
> What do we "lose" if only the "trivial" bugs are fixed?  By trivial I
> mean only patches that add "Multi-Arch: $val" fields like #650777 (so no
> moving of libraries from usr/lib to usr/lib/$MADIR).
> 
> ~Niels
> 
>  [...]

I would still like to get an idea of what needs the last packages
unfixed packages.  Having reviewed some of the bugs, I realized that
some of them have no patches, liborbit2 seems to invovle plugins that
will most likely entangle "unrelated" packages, at least libbonobo has
an unanswered "interesting question"...

~Niels



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Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-31 Thread Peter Samuelson

[Nicholas Breen]
> That bug is waiting on a new cmake upload -- would it be acceptable
> to the RT to remove gromacs from testing, allowing lesstif2 to
> migrate, and then re-admitting a binNMU'ed gromacs after cmake is
> updated?  Assuming the lesstif and (as-yet-unavailable) cmake
> migrations themselves are allowed, of course.

There is no need to remove gromacs in order for lesstif2 to migrate.
There's no SONAME bump or anything.  The issue only came up at all,
because we needed to make sure the new lesstif2 does not add any new
FTBFS in other packages.

Peter


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Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-31 Thread Nicholas Breen
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:02:55AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
> A patched version of lesstif2 appears to have been uploaded.  To my
> knowledge it caused mtink to FTBFS, which has been fixed (see #683316).
>   There have also been noticed issues with gromacs and cmucl, but these
> appear to be unrelated to the multi-arch conversion[1].
[...]
> [1] The gromacs issue appears to be #680825, which was filed before the
> M-A conversion.

Yes, it is.  gromacs builds correctly with the multiarch lesstif2 as long as
cmake is downgraded to 2.8.8-3, which avoids #680825/#681428.  That bug is
waiting on a new cmake upload -- would it be acceptable to the RT to remove
gromacs from testing, allowing lesstif2 to migrate, and then re-admitting a
binNMU'ed gromacs after cmake is updated?  Assuming the lesstif and
(as-yet-unavailable) cmake migrations themselves are allowed, of course.


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Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-31 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2012-07-18 13:34, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> [...]
> 
> There are still 2 problems remaining: lestiff2 (patch in BTS) and cyrus-sasl
> (needs a sourcefull upload to fix binNMU / multiarch problem).
> 

A patched version of lesstif2 appears to have been uploaded.  To my
knowledge it caused mtink to FTBFS, which has been fixed (see #683316).
  There have also been noticed issues with gromacs and cmucl, but these
appear to be unrelated to the multi-arch conversion[1].  I have CC'ed
Peter Samuelson, who have been conducting most of the lesstif2 rdep
rebuilds.

It is my understanding that lesstif2 is the last M-A conversion needed
for ia32-libs.  Assuming the changes to lesstif2 and mtink are
reasonable, cyrus-sasl just needs a "no-change" upload and ia32-libs is
good to go.

> [...]
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677762
> 
> The number of issues have gone down but not far enough yet. Most
> critical and trivial there is:
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650777
> 
> That one prevents ia32-libs-gtk to be installable with a dependency on
> libgnomecanvas and 3rd party binaries still depend on that.
> 
> [...]


It seems like most of those bugs are libraries needing converted to M-A
(i.e. usr/lib -> usr/lib/$MADIR) and #650777 is the "exception".

What do we "lose" if only the "trivial" bugs are fixed?  By trivial I
mean only patches that add "Multi-Arch: $val" fields like #650777 (so no
moving of libraries from usr/lib to usr/lib/$MADIR).

~Niels

[1] The gromacs issue appears to be #680825, which was filed before the
M-A conversion.  cmulc allegedly to have a broken "build-arch" setup;
not sure if a bug has been reported for that yet.


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Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:53:26PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 11:56 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 11:13 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> [...]
> > > - libcurl3 (>= 7.21.0-2), libdb4.8 (>= 4.8.30-2),
> > > + libcurl3 (>= 7.21.0-2),
> [...]
> > Is that the only (non-changelog) change in the package?  If so then feel
> > free to get it uploaded and then come back to us with an unblock
> > request.
> 
> You appear to have done the former of those, but never bothered with the
> latter...

There are still 2 problems remaining: lestiff2 (patch in BTS) and cyrus-sasl
(needs a sourcefull upload to fix binNMU / multiarch problem).

I wanted them solved before I request ia32-libs goes into testing.

> > Note that in any case the package won't migrate with #677741
> > in the way.
> 
> That wasn't meant as a suggestion to simply downgrade the bug :-p

I downgraded the bug because the critical issues have been solved.
That means that many users can install ia32-libs and use it just fine.
But not everyone can. So there is still room for improvement.

Ia32-libs is at a stage where it is possible to release it with a
slightly reduced usefullness. But idealy I would like there to be no
regression to squeeze, namely the two issues above.
 
> In an earlier thread you mentioned a number of multiarch issues with

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677762

The number of issues have gone down but not far enough yet. Most
critical and trivial there is:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650777

That one prevents ia32-libs-gtk to be installable with a dependency on
libgnomecanvas and 3rd party binaries still depend on that.

> ia32-libs-gtk; what's the current status there?  Also:
> 
> out of date on ia64: ia32-libs-gtk (from 20120102)

Pending removal.
 
> Regards,
> 
> Adam

MfG
Goswin


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Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-17 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 11:56 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 11:13 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
[...]
> > - libcurl3 (>= 7.21.0-2), libdb4.8 (>= 4.8.30-2),
> > + libcurl3 (>= 7.21.0-2),
[...]
> Is that the only (non-changelog) change in the package?  If so then feel
> free to get it uploaded and then come back to us with an unblock
> request.

You appear to have done the former of those, but never bothered with the
latter...

> Note that in any case the package won't migrate with #677741
> in the way.

That wasn't meant as a suggestion to simply downgrade the bug :-p

In an earlier thread you mentioned a number of multiarch issues with
ia32-libs-gtk; what's the current status there?  Also:

out of date on ia64: ia32-libs-gtk (from 20120102)

Regards,

Adam


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Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Adam D. Barratt"  writes:

> [Dropped pkg-db-devel from Cc because it apparently doesn't accept posts
> from non-subscribers]
>
> On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 11:56 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
>> Looking at the package currently in unstable, I do have to ask what
>> happened to:
>> 
>>  ia32-libs-20120616/debian/copyright|13164 --
>
> Answering my own question, it's presumably a side-effect of no longer
> embedding loads of other packages, so not needing to ship their
> copyright information.
>
> Regards,
>
> Adam

Indeed. It's just 2 empty transitional packages now that pull in
everything that used to be in ia32-libs through dependencies.
So no embedding of loads of other packages and therefore no need to
repeat the copyright infos. You will notice it got ~400MB smaller too
(including binaries).

MfG
Goswin


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Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-01 Thread Adam D. Barratt
[Dropped pkg-db-devel from Cc because it apparently doesn't accept posts
from non-subscribers]

On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 11:56 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> Looking at the package currently in unstable, I do have to ask what
> happened to:
> 
>  ia32-libs-20120616/debian/copyright|13164 --

Answering my own question, it's presumably a side-effect of no longer
embedding loads of other packages, so not needing to ship their
copyright information.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-01 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 11:13 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Sven Joachim  writes:
> > Your package depends on libdb4.8 which is no longer available in
> > unstable.
> 
> It is still in wheezy.

No, it isn't (and wasn't when you mailed).

> I assume it is going to be removed there as well?

It was removed in last night's britney run.

> Dear Release Team,
> 
> as per http://release.debian.org/wheezy/freeze_policy.html I'm CCing you
> on this bug (#679671) to ask for a freeze exception.
> 
> ==
> diff -Nru ia32-libs-20120616/debian/control ia32-libs-20120701/debian/control
> --- ia32-libs-20120616/debian/control   2012-06-16 21:30:00.0 +0200
> +++ ia32-libs-20120701/debian/control   2012-07-01 10:54:26.0 +0200
> @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@
>   libavahi-common3 (>= 0.6.27-2+squeeze1), libbsd0 (>= 0.2.0-1),
>   libcap2 (>= 1:2.19-3),
>   libcomerr2 (>= 1.41.12-4stable1), libcups2 (>= 1.4.4-7+squeeze1),
> - libcurl3 (>= 7.21.0-2), libdb4.8 (>= 4.8.30-2),
> + libcurl3 (>= 7.21.0-2),
>   libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.2.24-4+squeeze1), libdirectfb-1.2-9 (>= 1.2.10.0-4),
>   libdrm-intel1 (>= 2.4.21-1~squeeze3), libdrm-radeon1 (>= 2.4.21-1~squeeze3),
>   libdrm2 (>= 2.4.21-1~squeeze3), libedit2 (>= 2.11-20080614-2),
> ==

Is that the only (non-changelog) change in the package?  If so then feel
free to get it uploaded and then come back to us with an unblock
request.  Note that in any case the package won't migrate with #677741
in the way.

Looking at the package currently in unstable, I do have to ask what
happened to:

 ia32-libs-20120616/debian/copyright|13164 --

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-01 Thread Sven Joachim
Am 01.07.2012 um 11:13 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow:

> Sven Joachim  writes:
>
>> Package: ia32-libs-i386
>> Version: 20120616
>> Severity: serious
>>
>> Your package depends on libdb4.8 which is no longer available in
>> unstable.
>
> It is still in wheezy.

Not anymore.

> I assume it is going to be removed there as well?

It was removed yesterday when libdb4.8 4.8.30-12 migrated.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#679671: ia32-libs-i386: depends on removed package libdb4.8

2012-07-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Joachim  writes:

> Package: ia32-libs-i386
> Version: 20120616
> Severity: serious
>
> Your package depends on libdb4.8 which is no longer available in
> unstable.

It is still in wheezy. I assume it is going to be removed there as well?


Dear Release Team,

as per http://release.debian.org/wheezy/freeze_policy.html I'm CCing you
on this bug (#679671) to ask for a freeze exception.

==
diff -Nru ia32-libs-20120616/debian/control ia32-libs-20120701/debian/control
--- ia32-libs-20120616/debian/control   2012-06-16 21:30:00.0 +0200
+++ ia32-libs-20120701/debian/control   2012-07-01 10:54:26.0 +0200
@@ -31,7 +31,7 @@
  libavahi-common3 (>= 0.6.27-2+squeeze1), libbsd0 (>= 0.2.0-1),
  libcap2 (>= 1:2.19-3),
  libcomerr2 (>= 1.41.12-4stable1), libcups2 (>= 1.4.4-7+squeeze1),
- libcurl3 (>= 7.21.0-2), libdb4.8 (>= 4.8.30-2),
+ libcurl3 (>= 7.21.0-2),
  libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.2.24-4+squeeze1), libdirectfb-1.2-9 (>= 1.2.10.0-4),
  libdrm-intel1 (>= 2.4.21-1~squeeze3), libdrm-radeon1 (>= 2.4.21-1~squeeze3),
  libdrm2 (>= 2.4.21-1~squeeze3), libedit2 (>= 2.11-20080614-2),
==

The package is uploaded to mentors awaiting sponsoring:

http://mentors.debian.net/package/ia32-libs
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/i/ia32-libs/ia32-libs_20120701.dsc

MfG
Goswin


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