Re: Why did I get no response? Was:Understanding the porting process

2003-05-29 Thread Thomas A. Cort
> Why did I get no respone on my question(s) of yesterday morning?
Mainly because they don't have to do with Debian. If I understand your 
questions, you want to compile the Linux Kernel, GCC, glibc, and some 
other stuff under solaris and end up with a working Linux system. This is 
more of a Linux From Scratch type system http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/.

This type of thing is not usually done. Most people install linux on sparc 
systems either by CDROM, floppy, tape drive(?), netboot, or some external 
media device.

If you really want to build the system from solaris here are a few 
things to get you looking in the right places.  You will need a GCC 
cross-compiler to generate sparc linux binaries. (I've never done any 
cross-compiling so I can't tell you how to do it, but you could search 
google). You will also need an extra partition to put the binaries on. 
While your at it you may want to make an extra swap partition for linux, 
or you can run mkswap on your solaris swap partition everytime it boots 
Linux. I think you may get stuck with the partitioning. When Solaris comes 
"preinstalled" it usually has no free space left to partition. You could 
re-install Solaris, but if you were re-installing why not just use Linux?

> What tools or libraries should I compile first?
The order doesn't matter because the binaries won't get used until you 
boot into linux.

> But what compile options should I choose to compile from a Solaris to 
> a Linux machine?
I've never done it, but you could try looking at the man page for gcc or 
try going to the gcc website at gcc.gnu.org.

> Can someone give me some hints and tips (or a URL to a document 
> describing this kind of work), please?
If you are into compiling Linux from sources you could look at Gentoo 
(http://www.gentoo.org). It has a CD that you can download that will walk 
you through compiling everything (though not from solaris, but from the 
CD running Linux).

In conclusion, if you want to save a lot of time and headaches you could 
just download and burn some debian isos from 
http://www.debian.org/distrib/cd and if you don't have the 
bandwidth/burner you can buy CDs. A list of vendors is at 
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/

If you have any questions about Debian GNU/Linux send them to the list, 
but if it's not directly related to a Debian system, then  e-mail me 
directly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or get your info via another source 
(usenet, irc, other mailing lists, fourms, etc).

-Thomas Cort



Re: Why did I get not one response? Was:Understanding the porting process

2003-05-29 Thread ndade
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 03:22:36AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is it because my questions are so stupid?

It is because your question is hard. You desire to build linux from scratch.
That requires understanding more options than anyone cares to list here.
There is a web site all about it. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
Start there.

Or get on with life and install debian as is, and just tinker with individual
packages (apt-get source ).

And don't whine.

-Nicolas



Re: does not match kernel data

2003-05-29 Thread Lito A. Lampitoc
Thanks. I removed system.map.2.2.22 from / and see if /boot contains the
same file as my build and it looks correct (i have system.map.2.2.22 in
my /boot). uname -a reports: Linux buttercup 2.2.22 #1 Tue May 27
13:09:38 PHT 2003 sparc unknown
however, none of this worked :( if I may add, my previous kernel is
2.2.20-su4cdm and just to make it work I did the ff. before running silo

ln -s . /boot/etc
ln -s . /boot/boot
mv /etc/silo.conf /boot
ln -s /boot/silo.conf /etc/silo.conf

(your idea)

do i have to repeat the same process again?
yes, I updated my silo.conf to reflect the new kernel.

thanx.




On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 19:14, Ben Collins wrote:
> > I copied System.map-2.2.22 to / as per advised from the web, but doesnt
> > work. What do you think is the problem here. Is this a serious error?
> > Hope you could help me here.
> 
> Delete it from / and make sure the one in /boot matches your kernel
> build.
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Why did I get no response? Was:Understanding the porting process

2003-05-29 Thread debian_noob
Hello guys!

Why did I get no respone on my question(s) of yesterday morning?
(I search the failures here on my side first!)
Is it because my English is bad? (But many native English speakers told me that 
my skill in this language is enough so that my writings can be understood by 
the readers.)
Is it because my questions are so stupid? ( But a user posted some hours after 
me a question here asking if this is the right place even he has not the right 
Linux skills. He got immediate response by four or five people until now. I 
tried to make all things right by first reading manuals, a book and this list 
and then I posted here. I got no response. Where is my failure? )
Is it because I post under a nick name? (When M$ forces their software to get 
all the 'real' information about users the open source community cries "I want 
to be anonymous on the net".
When someone uses this right to be anonymous then he get no answer, no help. A 
paradox here?)

I am just searching for knowledge here. Please tell me my failures so I can 
correct them, so that I get my answers and will be able to help people soon, 
too.

Thank you

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 29.05.03 11:11:56:
> 
> Hello to all Woody and Sparc Fans!
> 
> I want to understand the porting process so I began with C and systems 
> programming.
> And I purchased a Sun Ultra5 with Solaris8 preinstalled.
> 
> Now I want to get the GNU tools and the Linux Kernel and compile them part 
> for part(on the Solaris-Ultra5) so that lastly I get a Linux-Ultra5. (The 
> reason I ask here is because I want to base my work on the source packages of 
> Woody and after compiling package the software to deb's just to understand 
> how this works).
> 
> My problem:
> Where should I begin? What tools or libraries should I compile first?
> I think the most important tools and libraries are gcc and glibc.
> But what compile options should I choose to compile from a Solaris to a Linux 
> machine?
> 
> 
> Can someone give me some hints and tips (or a URL to a document describing 
> this kind of work), please?
> 
> 
> I thank you for reading my mail
> I thank you for answering 
> 
> With best regards
> your debian_noob
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Re: Why did I get not one response? Was:Understanding the porting process

2003-05-29 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 03:22:36AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello guys!

It's because you are asking a FAQ that is better answered by a search on
google and not by expecting someone to write a 5 page essay for you.

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Why did I get not one response? Was:Understanding the porting process

2003-05-29 Thread debian_noob
Hello guys!

Can someone tell me, please, what the reason is that I did not get one response 
for my 
question(s) of yesterday morning? (Here I search the fault and failure first on 
my side!)
Is it because my English is so bad?
(This I can not believe as some native English speakers told me that my skill 
is enough to be understood the right way.)
Is it because my questions are so stupid?
(This I can not believe, too. Some hours after my post a user posted a question 
if this is the right place to post even he has not the right skills in Linux, 
yet. He got immediate response.
I tried to make all things correct by reading manuals, books, this list and so 
on. And then I posted my question. Where is my failure, please? Just a post 
that tells me my question(s) are stupid would be enough. Although that would 
disappoint me because I thought that the community try to help everyone the 
best that they can :-(  )
Is it because I post with an alias? 
(When M$ forces their software to get the 'real' information about the users 
the open source community cries "I want to be anonymous in the Net". When 
someone uses this right then he got no response, no answers. A paradox here? 
:-| )
Please tell me my failures, so I can correct it, because I search knowledge 
here so that I will be able to help other users soon, too.

Thank you
debian_noob
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 29-May-03 11:11:56:
> 
> Hello to all Woody and Sparc Fans!
> 
> I want to understand the porting process so I began with C and systems 
> programming.
> And I purchased a Sun Ultra5 with Solaris8 preinstalled.
> 
> Now I want to get the GNU tools and the Linux Kernel and compile them part 
> for part(on the Solaris-Ultra5) so that lastly I get a Linux-Ultra5. (The 
> reason I ask here is because I want to base my work on the source packages of 
> Woody and after compiling package the software to deb's just to understand 
> how this works).
> 
> My problem:
> Where should I begin? What tools or libraries should I compile first?
> I think the most important tools and libraries are gcc and glibc.
> But what compile options should I choose to compile from a Solaris to a Linux 
> machine?
> 
> 
> Can someone give me some hints and tips (or a URL to a document describing 
> this kind of work), please?
> 
> 
> I thank you for reading my mail
> I thank you for answering 
> 
> With best regards
> your debian_noob


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Re: Hello, New to this listing.

2003-05-29 Thread Ben Collins
> 
> I would prefer the term "different" to "better". :)

Me too. "better" is always relative to the user, not the entire
userbase. Different strokes for different folks and all that :)

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Re: Hello, New to this listing.

2003-05-29 Thread Steve Pacenka
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 17:36, Rhonda R. Wilson wrote:

> My son and I have decided to learn the Linux OS so that we can get off
> Microsoft OS and have a mutual project between us.  We have a Sun Ultra5 w/
> Sparc processor and at the moment it has Solaris 8 installed, but I plan on
> putting Debian Linux as the only OS.  Our knowledge of Unix is minimal,
> Linux is non existant, and this is our first experience with any Sun
> equipment.

Sadly to say, I would choose another distribution than Debian to get
started with.  The Debian installer program and documentation presume a
lot of prior Unix knowledge, and some knowledge of the specific hardware
(such as disk partitioning esoterica).

Another writer's recommendation about Aurora could be a good one.  I
learned Linux using RedHat (from which Aurora is derived) on x86
platforms, and the RedHat installer is a _lot_ easier to start with than
Debian Woody's.

After a few months with Aurora (or perhaps SUSE) getting familiar with
the Linux/Unix world, then an upgrade to Debian could be worthwhile.  It
opens up a choice of thousands of packages, aggressive security
updating, a large user community, and a choice of "stable", "testing" or
"unstable" when choosing what versions of packages to install.  Keeping
debian up to date with security patches and other improvements is
remarkably straightforward.

Because Debian supports lots of platforms very consistently, stuff that
you learn on your Ultra5 could help someone with a PowerMac, or vice
versa.

Ultra 5 is not a bad platform for Linux.  Memory is about twice as
expensive as on PC and PowerMac platforms, but the onboard ethernet and
video work very well (I have a U10) and IDE drives are cheap and fast.

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Re: Hello, New to this listing.

2003-05-29 Thread Irvin Probst
On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 02:48, Hugh Saunders wrote:
>
> On the other hand, i have been using debian for a few years on i386 and
> it was a bit of a stuggle to get it onto my IPC [sun4c] 

IMHO linux is not the best choice for sun4c hardware, I think that even
Solaris 7 runs faster, not to mention that sparc32 kernel support is
almost dead. This is of course completely subjective as I've no time to
run intensive benchmarks, so YMMV.
However for sun4u hardware -and since the hme driver is fixed- it
definitively rocks.

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and those who don't.



Re: Hello, New to this listing.

2003-05-29 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 03:04:57PM -0700, nate wrote:
> Rhonda R. Wilson said:
> 
> > Is this the right spot?
> 
> im sure people here will be more then happy to help but if your
> household has zero unix/linux experience it may be better to start
> with a "easier to install/use" distribution first before going to
> debian(which is easier to manage in the long run usually).
> 
> the only other linux distro I have tried on sparc was SuSE 7.3, and
> it installed pretty flawlessly on an ultra 1 creator 3D.
> 
> though I went back to debian pretty quick :)
first distro i used was caldera.. [bad memories]
Second suse that lasted a bit longer, till i discoverd the way :)

I  did a suse install for a friend recently and it still sucks.[IMHO] 
Far too pretty and i couldnt find icewm. 

On the other hand, i have been using debian for a few years on i386 and
it was a bit of a stuggle to get it onto my IPC [sun4c] but this was due
to mu inability to confiure a boot server rather than anything wrong
with the actual sparc [well apart from a file locking issue with the nfs
root]

Anyway i say go for debian! you can do it!

post probs, but rtm and google first =o)

-- 
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Re: Hello, New to this listing.

2003-05-29 Thread Tom 'spot' Callaway
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 18:28, Thomas A. Cort wrote:
> > household has zero unix/linux experience it may be better to start
> > with a "easier to install/use" distribution first before going to
> > debian(which is easier to manage in the long run usually).
> For a really easy to use Linux distribution for the Sparc32 and Sparc64 
> platforms you may want to try Aurora Linux (http://auroralinux.org). It's 
> based on RedHat Linux and has a graphical installer and user interface. 
> After you get used to linux and Sparc hardware and want something better 
> you can try debian.

I would prefer the term "different" to "better". :)

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Re: Hello, New to this listing.

2003-05-29 Thread Thomas A. Cort
> household has zero unix/linux experience it may be better to start
> with a "easier to install/use" distribution first before going to
> debian(which is easier to manage in the long run usually).
For a really easy to use Linux distribution for the Sparc32 and Sparc64 
platforms you may want to try Aurora Linux (http://auroralinux.org). It's 
based on RedHat Linux and has a graphical installer and user interface. 
After you get used to linux and Sparc hardware and want something better 
you can try debian.

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Newbie questions...

2003-05-29 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
Hey, all. I'm trying to broaden my horizons, so I've taken one of my infra-
structure machines that was running NetBSD and I've installed Woody on it.

One thing I notice right off the bat is that things are a good bit more
sluggish in terms of user interaction. I don't yet know why this is, but
I notice things like my cursor in X freezing under what should be fairly
moderate load. But, since the box mostly serves NFS and only rarely gets
used as an X console, I can live with that.

Another thing I note is that I don't see my sound hardware showing up. This
isn't a huge issue for the reasons stated above, but I'm curious about it.
Is there no support for SUN4M sound hardware? Or, must I install something
that didn't get added by default?

The only thing that strikes me as potentially worrisome is this: Why do I
get a bunch of "Unimplemented SPARC system call" errors at startup, and
what does this indicate?

An excerpt from my dmesg:

VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
init[1]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 69
Adding Swap: 196600k swap-space (priority -1)
eth0: Carrier Lost, trying TPE
portmap[109]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 87
cp[135]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 69
mv[159]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 69
inetd[225]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 53
lpd[229]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 69
sunmouse: Successfully adjusted to 1200 baud.
Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED])

My box is a plain-vanilla SPARCstation 5 with a cgsix in it. Here's some of
what /proc/cpuinfo says about my processor:

cpu : Fujitsu  MB86904
fpu : Lsi Logic/Meiko L64804 or compatible
promlib : Version 3 Revision 2
prom: 2.15
type: sun4m

Everything seems to be working as expected, but I am curious nonetheless.

Thanks in advance for clues. Apologies in advance if I'm slow in replying,
as I'll be away from my keyboard for a week or so starting tomorrow
afternoon. I will read everything that crosses the list on getting back.

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Re: sparc64 and ipsec

2003-05-29 Thread Andreas Pettersson
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Noah Meyerhans wrote:

>
> There is a backport of the IPsec implementation from 2.5 to 2.4.  See
> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/davem/IPSEC/linux-2.4.21-ipsec.patch
>
> It's totally unsupported, but might work for you.
>
Thanks, at a first glance it seems to work, now i just have to wrap my
head around ipsec to see if this _really_ works ;)



Re: Hello, New to this listing.

2003-05-29 Thread nate
Rhonda R. Wilson said:

> Is this the right spot?

im sure people here will be more then happy to help but if your
household has zero unix/linux experience it may be better to start
with a "easier to install/use" distribution first before going to
debian(which is easier to manage in the long run usually).

the only other linux distro I have tried on sparc was SuSE 7.3, and
it installed pretty flawlessly on an ultra 1 creator 3D.

though I went back to debian pretty quick :)

ISO images are available here:
ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ftp.suse.com/sparc64/7.3/iso

unfortunately it seem's suse's user support lists are much less
helpful then debian's at least in my experience, really low
answer:question ratio(I think that's right ?).

fortunately for basic tasks, provided the system installs suse
should just "work". more advanced stuff..maybe more troublesome,
and sparc is not an officially supported distro of suse (I *think*).

if you wanna stick to debian, I'll help where I can and I'm sure
others will too but as you noticed it's really more suited to
advanced users or users that are ready & willing to get their
hands dirty with linux for the most part, speaking as a debian
user since 1998, and a linux user since 1996.

good luck in whichever you choose.

nate






Re: Hello, New to this listing.

2003-05-29 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 05:36:24PM -0400, Rhonda R. Wilson wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I am new to this listing and wanted to make sure that I am in the right
> place.
> 
> My son and I have decided to learn the Linux OS so that we can get off
> Microsoft OS and have a mutual project between us.  We have a Sun Ultra5 w/
> Sparc processor and at the moment it has Solaris 8 installed, but I plan on
> putting Debian Linux as the only OS.  Our knowledge of Unix is minimal,
> Linux is non existant, and this is our first experience with any Sun
> equipment.
> 
> After reading the postings for several weeks now it appears that most in the
> list may be quite a bit more advanced than we are and we just wanted to make
> sure that our postings were appropriate for the group.
> 
> Is this the right spot?

The reason there are experienced users here is so that we can answer
questions for nice folks like you who don't know :)

As long as you read the docs, you should be ok. If the docs don't answer
your question, maybe google can. The list is certainly a good place if
you can't find the answer yourself.

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Hello, New to this listing.

2003-05-29 Thread Rhonda R. Wilson
Hello all,

I am new to this listing and wanted to make sure that I am in the right
place.

My son and I have decided to learn the Linux OS so that we can get off
Microsoft OS and have a mutual project between us.  We have a Sun Ultra5 w/
Sparc processor and at the moment it has Solaris 8 installed, but I plan on
putting Debian Linux as the only OS.  Our knowledge of Unix is minimal,
Linux is non existant, and this is our first experience with any Sun
equipment.

After reading the postings for several weeks now it appears that most in the
list may be quite a bit more advanced than we are and we just wanted to make
sure that our postings were appropriate for the group.

Is this the right spot?

Rhonda R. Wilson







Re: Software RAID on UltraLinux 2.4.18/19 needs patch, or use 2.4.20+

2003-05-29 Thread nate
Philip L. McMahon said:
> Nate,
>
> I experienced a similar problem on my Ultra 30 a while back. As I
> recall, I would get a similar oops when I tried to write to the drives,
> even though they would mount successfully. Kernel version 2.4.20 (and
> above) solved the problem; a patch is needed for prior versions. I'm
> currently running 2.4.20 with some mirrored and some striped software
> RAID devices with Ext3 and ReiserFS volumes. The system was similarly
> configured under 2.4.18 as well.

has it been stable for you since? I *just* finished reinstalling
(4th time) on my ultra 1 i suppose I could start fresh again 

thanks for the info! I really do wanna use software raid if it works.
for 2.4.20 are you using the vanilla kernel from kernel.org or some
other version?

nate





Software RAID on UltraLinux 2.4.18/19 needs patch, or use 2.4.20+

2003-05-29 Thread Philip L. McMahon
Nate,

I experienced a similar problem on my Ultra 30 a while back. As I recall,
I would get a similar oops when I tried to write to the drives, even
though they would mount successfully. Kernel version 2.4.20 (and above)
solved the problem; a patch is needed for prior versions. I'm currently
running 2.4.20 with some mirrored and some striped software RAID devices
with Ext3 and ReiserFS volumes. The system was similarly configured under
2.4.18 as well.

For pre-2.4.20 versions, you'll need this patch:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=103075370821523&w=2

I wrote up a short HOWTO a while back, and if you'll overlook the
shameless self-promotion, you can find a copy on my website:

http://www.doorbot.com/guides/linux/sparc64/rootraid/

I had also posted the HOWTO to the Debian Sparc list:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2003/debian-sparc-200301/msg00186.html

- Philip L. McMahon





Re: sparc64 and ipsec

2003-05-29 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 07:33:31PM +0200, Andreas Pettersson wrote:
> I've been planning to test ipsec on my Ultra 1.
> But it seems that the FreeS/WAN kernel patches for 2.4.x won't compile on
> sparc64 and 2.5.69 was horribly unstable.
> So my question now is if there is any other way of getting ipsec for the
> sparc64 platform?

There is a backport of the IPsec implementation from 2.5 to 2.4.  See
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/davem/IPSEC/linux-2.4.21-ipsec.patch

It's totally unsupported, but might work for you.

noah

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Re: cdrom boot/install problems with Woody on SunBlade100

2003-05-29 Thread Keven Haynes
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Ben Collins wrote:

> On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 02:04:10PM -0400, Keven Haynes wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Ben,
> > 
> > I appreciate your help with this, but I'm still not able to boot my 
> > system.  Am I missing a key step anywhere?
> > 
> > I downloaded the iso image you directed me to, and am booting from it. At
> > the "boot:" prompt I have tried "/sparc64 initrd=/root.bin" both with and
> > without the "ide=nodma" appendage.  Either way, I'm getting the
> > 
> > Loading initial ramdisk...
> > Fast Data Access MMU Miss
> 
> If you are booting my netinst, just hit return. Don't put anything on
> the command line.

The same thing happens when I just hit return.





Re: cdrom boot/install problems with Woody on SunBlade100

2003-05-29 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 02:24:43PM -0400, Keven Haynes wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2003, Ben Collins wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 02:04:10PM -0400, Keven Haynes wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi Ben,
> > > 
> > > I appreciate your help with this, but I'm still not able to boot my 
> > > system.  Am I missing a key step anywhere?
> > > 
> > > I downloaded the iso image you directed me to, and am booting from it. At
> > > the "boot:" prompt I have tried "/sparc64 initrd=/root.bin" both with and
> > > without the "ide=nodma" appendage.  Either way, I'm getting the
> > > 
> > > Loading initial ramdisk...
> > > Fast Data Access MMU Miss
> > 
> > If you are booting my netinst, just hit return. Don't put anything on
> > the command line.
> 
> The same thing happens when I just hit return.

Try seeing if you have the latest OpenBoot firmware. I've heard
differing stories about some firmware not working correctly.

Also, it's not that hard to setup rarp/tftp on another machine for
netbooting. "apt-get install rarpd tftpd". The install docs tell you the
specifics on adding an /etc/ethers entry for rarpd and how to name the
tftpboot.img.

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Re: cdrom boot/install problems with Woody on SunBlade100

2003-05-29 Thread Keven Haynes

Hi Ben,

I appreciate your help with this, but I'm still not able to boot my 
system.  Am I missing a key step anywhere?

I downloaded the iso image you directed me to, and am booting from it. At
the "boot:" prompt I have tried "/sparc64 initrd=/root.bin" both with and
without the "ide=nodma" appendage.  Either way, I'm getting the

Loading initial ramdisk...
Fast Data Access MMU Miss
ok

response. 

Keven

On Thu, 29 May 2003, Ben Collins wrote:

> On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 01:17:16PM -0400, Keven Haynes wrote:
> > 
> > So, are you saying that there is no way to install a SunBlade100 directly 
> > from cdrom, or is there something special that I should be doing with the 
> > tftp image?  (I don't have a rarp/bootp/dhcp/tftp server at my disposal.)
> 
> Nope, you should be able to install from CD. I can say that I do all my
> installs (including the installs on my sb100) using tftp or the netinst
> image at:
> 
> http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/netinst.iso.bz2
> 
> You can still use your original CD with this (when it asks for where to
> install the packages from, insert the woody CD and tell it "cdrom").
> 
> 
> 




Re: cdrom boot/install problems with Woody on SunBlade100

2003-05-29 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 02:04:10PM -0400, Keven Haynes wrote:
> 
> Hi Ben,
> 
> I appreciate your help with this, but I'm still not able to boot my 
> system.  Am I missing a key step anywhere?
> 
> I downloaded the iso image you directed me to, and am booting from it. At
> the "boot:" prompt I have tried "/sparc64 initrd=/root.bin" both with and
> without the "ide=nodma" appendage.  Either way, I'm getting the
> 
> Loading initial ramdisk...
> Fast Data Access MMU Miss

If you are booting my netinst, just hit return. Don't put anything on
the command line.

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Re: cdrom boot/install problems with Woody on SunBlade100

2003-05-29 Thread Keven Haynes

So, are you saying that there is no way to install a SunBlade100 directly 
from cdrom, or is there something special that I should be doing with the 
tftp image?  (I don't have a rarp/bootp/dhcp/tftp server at my disposal.)

On Tue, 27 May 2003, Ben Collins wrote:

> > /boot/sparc64 
> > initrd=/disks/woody/main/disks-sparc/current/images-1.44/root.bin
> 
> I sure hope you meant "/dists/..." and not "/disks/...".
> 
> > I understand that tftp is probably prefered or works better, but at this 
> > point all I have is a cd. 
> 
> The tftp image is in
> /dists/woody/main/disks-sparc/current/sun4u/
> 
> on the CD.
> 
> 

Keven Haynes



Re: cdrom boot/install problems with Woody on SunBlade100

2003-05-29 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 01:17:16PM -0400, Keven Haynes wrote:
> 
> So, are you saying that there is no way to install a SunBlade100 directly 
> from cdrom, or is there something special that I should be doing with the 
> tftp image?  (I don't have a rarp/bootp/dhcp/tftp server at my disposal.)

Nope, you should be able to install from CD. I can say that I do all my
installs (including the installs on my sb100) using tftp or the netinst
image at:

http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/netinst.iso.bz2

You can still use your original CD with this (when it asks for where to
install the packages from, insert the woody CD and tell it "cdrom").


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Re: 2.4.21pre6 kernel Load problem on/for sun4u

2003-05-29 Thread satadru

3001328 May 29 11:45 image*

Can I run "gzip -9vc image > image-2.4.21-pre6" on it and have the system 
boot from the resultant compressed image?


I get this then, which is smaller than the image I am currently booting 
from (though that image is a gzipped vmlinux file:


1286923 May 29 11:47 image-2.4.21-pre6

--On Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:46 AM -0400 Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 09:41:45AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Now that I can get a kernel compile to work, I was wondering if there's
any  way to overcome the kernel size limit that seems to be hitting me.

The kernel I built seems to be too big to be loaded at boot time.

I however want to build a kernel with as few modules as possible.

I heard something along the lines of some new system in place to load
2.5.x  kernels [which are larger(?)].

Is there any way I can load a kernel image larger than ~1.3Mb on an
ultrasparc machine?


"make image" and then use arch/sparc64/boot/image instead of vmlinux.

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Re: 2.4.21pre6 kernel Load problem on/for sun4u

2003-05-29 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 09:41:45AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Now that I can get a kernel compile to work, I was wondering if there's any 
> way to overcome the kernel size limit that seems to be hitting me.
> 
> The kernel I built seems to be too big to be loaded at boot time.
> 
> I however want to build a kernel with as few modules as possible.
> 
> I heard something along the lines of some new system in place to load 2.5.x 
> kernels [which are larger(?)].
> 
> Is there any way I can load a kernel image larger than ~1.3Mb on an 
> ultrasparc machine?

"make image" and then use arch/sparc64/boot/image instead of vmlinux.

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2.4.21pre6 kernel Load problem on/for sun4u

2003-05-29 Thread satadru
Now that I can get a kernel compile to work, I was wondering if there's any 
way to overcome the kernel size limit that seems to be hitting me.


The kernel I built seems to be too big to be loaded at boot time.

I however want to build a kernel with as few modules as possible.

I heard something along the lines of some new system in place to load 2.5.x 
kernels [which are larger(?)].


Is there any way I can load a kernel image larger than ~1.3Mb on an 
ultrasparc machine?


satadru

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Re: IEEE1394 + 2.4.20 compile problem on/for sun4u

2003-05-29 Thread satadru
The problem ended up coming from having CONFIG_STACK_DEBUG in my .config ; 
The kernel compilation succeeded this time.


Thanks to Matthew French and Ben Collins for helping me with this.

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Re: ethernet lockup on ultra 1

2003-05-29 Thread Dave Love
Irvin Probst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 02:17, nate wrote:
>>
>> can someone provide a link to this HME patch?
>
> Iirc Ben Collins included it in his 2.4.19 package.

Unless there's a more recent version than what I can see, he didn't in
the end.  See bug #164680.  It seems to be unclear whether including
that patch in the package is actually the right thing to do or not.



Re: does not match kernel data

2003-05-29 Thread Ben Collins
> I copied System.map-2.2.22 to / as per advised from the web, but doesnt
> work. What do you think is the problem here. Is this a serious error?
> Hope you could help me here.

Delete it from / and make sure the one in /boot matches your kernel
build.

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Understanding the porting process

2003-05-29 Thread debian_noob
Hello to all Woody and Sparc Fans!

I want to understand the porting process so I began with C and systems 
programming.
And I purchased a Sun Ultra5 with Solaris8 preinstalled.

Now I want to get the GNU tools and the Linux Kernel and compile them part for 
part(on the Solaris-Ultra5) so that lastly I get a Linux-Ultra5. (The reason I 
ask here is because I want to base my work on the source packages of Woody and 
after compiling package the software to deb's just to understand how this 
works).

My problem:
Where should I begin? What tools or libraries should I compile first?
I think the most important tools and libraries are gcc and glibc.
But what compile options should I choose to compile from a Solaris to a Linux 
machine?


Can someone give me some hints and tips (or a URL to a document describing this 
kind of work), please?


I thank you for reading my mail
I thank you for answering 

With best regards
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does not match kernel data

2003-05-29 Thread Lito A. Lampitoc
Hi All,

after upgrading from kernel-2.2.20 to 2.2.22, using make-kpkg I got the
following error while doing ps:

{iommu_get_scsi_one_gflush} {___f_mmu_get_scsi_one}
Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.22 does not match kernel data.

I copied System.map-2.2.22 to / as per advised from the web, but doesnt
work. What do you think is the problem here. Is this a serious error?
Hope you could help me here.

Thanks.
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