Re: camp frequently FTBFS on 64bit big endian: camptest-qt (Failed)
Hi Flavien, On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 09:15:38AM +0100, Flavien Bridault wrote: > No my GPG key has not been signed by anyone afaik. I guess somewhere close to you you can find a Debian developer to sign your key. > Otherwise Andreas proposed me some weeks to apply as a Debian Developer, > that might be one more good reason to do it ? :) The first stage is a Debian Maintainer ... and you need to have a key signed by a Debian Developer to get this status. ;-) Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
Re: camp frequently FTBFS on 64bit big endian: camptest-qt (Failed)
Hi Flavien, I have put the porter lists of the affected architectures in CC whether there is somebody who has a hint for a better solution than removing these architectures from the supported architectures. This kind of "random failure"[1] is quite hard to debug for somebody who is not familiar for the said architectures. Kind regards Andreas. [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=876147#20 -- http://fam-tille.de
Re: Failed to build openmotif for sparc (Was: Any reason why libmotif3 vanished forSparc)
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: What makes you so sure it ever was there? I can't find any prove nor trace of that. Well, it was just installed on my Sarge based sparc machine for a long time (even before Sarge was released) and I had nothing else than the Debian-Mirror in my sources.list and do not remember any fiddling around to get openmotif installed. But I'm not completely sure ... Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Failed to build openmotif for sparc (Was: Any reason why libmotif3 vanished forSparc)
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: The newest version build successfully on the non-free sparc buildd: http://experimental.ftbfs.de/fetch.php?pkg=openmotifver=2.2.3-1.1arch=sparcstamp=1124715920file=logas=raw So will probably uploaded... Thanks for the hint. NB: in its current state openmotif is not likely to survive much longer in testing, even if my last upload fixed all the FTBFS (seems not, now it failed on hppa)... But what is the reason that the sparc version even vanished from stable? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Failed to build openmotif for sparc (Was: Any reason why libmotif3 vanished forSparc)
Hi, my question why the sparc port for openmotif vanished was more or less ignored and thus I guessed there is no real reason except that nobody cares. So I tried my best to fix this. 1. Failed to compile on vore. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dchroot unstable (unstable)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-get source libmotif-dev -- I got only version 2.2.3-1.1 despite the latest version is 2.2.3-1.2 -- wget *.dsc and *.diff.gz of 2.2.3-1.2 (unstable)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg-source -x openmotif_2.2.3-1.2.dsc (unstable)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd openmotif-2.2.3/ (unstable)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [EMAIL PROTECTED] (unstable)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/openmotif-2.2.3$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg-buildpackage: source package is openmotif dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 2.2.3-1.2 dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Frank Lichtenheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture sparc dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: byacc dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting. dpkg-buildpackage: (Use -d flag to override.) According to my (limited) knowledge I would now have to ask administrators to install byacc on vore. So I tried another approach. 2. Try pbuilder on my Sparc machine -- This resulted in #329747 against pbuilder Sorry for crossposting. Any hint which would be the more appropriate list for this boring issue would be welcome. Please CC me if you are going to post to debian-sparc only (which would be fine for me). Kind regards Andreas. For the record I quote my initial mail from three weeks ago to debian-devel: On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Andreas Tille wrote: I just noticed that libmotif3 vanished for Sparc architecture from the non-free archive. * stable (libs): Open Motif - shared libraries [non-free] 2.2.3-1: alpha arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips powerpc s390 * testing (libs): Open Motif - shared libraries [non-free] 2.2.3-1: alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips powerpc s390 * unstable (libs): Open Motif - shared libraries [non-free] 2.2.3-1.1: alpha arm i386 ia64 mips powerpc 2.2.3-1: amd64 hppa m68k s390 I know that it was there formerly because I once got it without any extra lines in my sources.list file. Now the Sparc port can be found at http://ftp.unixdev.net/pub/debian-udev/pool/non-free/o/openmotif/ but I wonder what might be the reason to drop this single archive from the non-free mirrors? -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Failed to build openmotif for sparc (Was: Any reason why libmotif3vanished forSparc)
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Petr Salinger wrote: In fact, there is a successful attempt of package build: http://experimental.ftbfs.de/build.php?arch=pkg=openmotif But only alpha, arm, mips and initial i386 version are already in unstable, sparc and powerpc are now in incoming. Thanks for the hint which makes me hopeful to be able to solve the arb issue soon. On the other hand my question why also older versions of the sparc port of openmotif were just silently removed. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any reason why libmotif3 vanished for Sparc
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Andreas Metzler wrote: I know that it was there formerly because I once got it without any extra lines in my sources.list file. Now the Sparc port can be found at http://ftp.unixdev.net/pub/debian-udev/pool/non-free/o/openmotif/ This is a version with security issues. Thanks for the hint. libmotif3 is non-free and not-autobuilt, it requires somebody with I'm aware of this and I could offer building the package on my Sparc machine, but ... access to a sparc machine to build it manually. Sadly this seems to be made difficult by a FTBFS on sparc, http://bugs.debian.org/323798 ... I'm not skilled enough to fix this. :-( (I put debian-sparc in CC - perhaps this increases the audience.) Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Testing Beta 4 on Sparc Ultra 10
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Peter wrote: What is this tcl version btw? The login screen says: Sun Ultra 5/10 UPA/PCI (UltraSPARC-IIi 333MHz), Keyboard Present OpenBoot 3.15, 256 MB memory installed, Serial #10648638 After pressing Stop-A I tried: ok probe-ide Device 0 ( Primary Master ) ATA Model: SAMSUNG SP0411N Device 1 ( Primary Slave ) Not Present Device 0 ( Secondary Master ) Removable ATAPI Model: CDR-8322B Device 1 ( Secondary Slave ) Not Present So this looks nice... Then I tried ok boot cdrom and voila - we are one step further ... Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux sarge! This is Debian isnatllation CDROM, built on 20040530. [...] After rpessng enter and some messages from SILO about the memory which was allocated and the Kernel which is booted I've seen the Linux Penguin. But not all went fine and I'm now busy to type the screen for debugging purpose (wished cut-n-paste would work ;-) ) I use [...] where I leave out information which seems irrelevant for me. Sun TYPE 5 keyboard detected without keyclick SAB82532 serial driver version 1.65 ttyS00 at [...] ttyS01 at [...] power: Control reg at [...] ... powerd running. Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon [...] Initializing [...] Starting kswapd VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1 Journalled Block Device driver loaded devfs: v1.12c (20020818) Richard Gooch [...] devfs: boot_options: 0x1 atyfb: 3D RAGE PRO (PQFP, PCI) [...] SABRE0: Uncorrectable Error, primary error type[DMA Read: Translation Error] SABRE0: bytemask[ff00] dword_offset[1] was_block(1) SABRE0: UE AFAR [10883b48] SABRE0: UE Secondary errors [(none)] SABRE0: IOMMU Error, type[Invalid Error] SABRE0: IOMMU TAG(0)[RAW(00c60769)error(Invalid Error)wr(0)sz(8K)vpg(c0ed2000)] SABRE0: IOMMU DATA(0)[RAW(6fe0)valid(1)used(1)cache(0)ppg() Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x64 fb0: ATY Mach64 frame buffer device on PCI pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured rtc_init: no PC rtc found Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306 RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 8192K size 1024 blocksize loop: loaded (max 8 devices) sunhme.c:v2.01 26/Mar/2002 David [...] eth0: HAPPY MEAL (PCI/CheerIO) 10/100BaseT Ethernet [...] Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; [...] CMD646: IDE controller at PCI slot 01:03.0 CMD646: chipset revision 3 CMD646: chipset revision 0x03, MultiWord DMA Force Limited CMD646: 100% native mode on irq 4,7e0 ide0: BM-DMA at [...] ide1: BM-DMA at [...] hda: SAMSUNG SP0411N, ATA DISK drive ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; [...] hdc: CRD-8322B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at [...] on irq 4,7e0 ide1 at [...] on irq 4,7e0 (shared with ide0) hda: attached ide-disk driver. hda: 78242976 sectors (40060 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=4870/255/63, (U)DMA Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: unknown partition table SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2 usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs usb.c: registered new driver hub host/usb-uhci.c: $Revision [...] host/usb-uhci.c: [...] host/usb-uhci.c: [...] usb.c: registered new driver usbmouse usbmouse.c: [...] usb.c: registered new driver usbkbd usbkbd.c: [...] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice Initializing Cryptographic API NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP: routing cache hash table of 4096 buckets, 32Kbytes TCP: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0 cramfs: wrong magic sh-2021: reiserfs_read_super: can not find reiserfs on ramdisk(1,0) Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00 Press L1-A to return to the boot prom After moving the mouse by chance the following line was added sunmouse: Successfully adjusted to 1200 baud. Damn, now I'm in need of a coffee break but I was told to be as verbose as possible and so I did ... I have not the slightest idea why the RAM disk should be formatted as ReiserFS and I guess here some Problems with the Beta 4 installer. Should I try a daily build instead? Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Testing Beta 4 on Sparc Ultra 10
BTW, because there was an answer to the previous mail with subject: Make tc1 more visible? I can ensure you that the bug is *not* fixed in the daily build from today! On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Andreas Tille wrote: TCP: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0 cramfs: wrong magic sh-2021: reiserfs_read_super: can not find reiserfs on ramdisk(1,0) Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00 Press L1-A to return to the boot prom There is absolutely no change and the problem exists in the latest d-i from today. Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Testing Beta 4 on Sparc Ultra 10
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Christian Perrier wrote: Could you try the tc1 version ? http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/sparc/tc1/sarge-sparc-netinst.iso It was absolutely the same behaviour as I described in my posting at http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/06/msg00092.html That's why I hope to get some further help from debian-sprac (sorry for the cross-posting). Is there anything I should do after removing a broken 10GB IDE disk and inserting a new factored 40GB disk? I can not exclude any hardware problems and so may be debian-boot is not the best list. AFAIK, there hasn't been test on such Sparc64 system (it is Sparc64, right?) People on debian-sparc will know surely ... so your report will be deeply awaited...:-) I'm willing to report surely. Perhaps somebody might be able to provide simple boot floppies to exclude problems with the IDE system? Kind regards Andreas. PS: I'm not subscribed to both list so please CC me. Thanks.
Re: Testing Beta 4 on Sparc Ultra 10
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Peter wrote: What is this tcl version btw? I'm not sitting in front of the box until tomorrow morning, but I have also trouble to handle the boot screen via keyboard. On my E250 server I was able to send the right codes via serial line but the SUn keyboard is a real advantage for me. Can you tell me which key I have to press to get the boot prompt. An extra hurdle might be that this is a German keyboard and I guess it is not enough if you just tell me the string which is printed in the key but I raw description of the position of the key to press would be needed. Sorry for this stupid question from a i386-based person ... Perhaps there is a quick way to find out which disks are found at this prompt ... Thanks for the other hints - I'll try tit soon Andreas. PS: Quick idea: Could the jumper settings of the hard disk have any influence?
Re: Performance on Sparc Ultra 10
On 18 Jun 2003, Steve Pacenka wrote: 2.4.21: ehec2,496M,3316,98,13866,27,5968,13,2856,92,12546,13,123.9,1,16,261,97, ^ +,+++,13110,100,270,97,+,+++,1658,96 Some comparative bonnie++ results ... 2.4.21 from Debian, Ultra 10 333 CPU, 512M RAM, mdma2 IDE 7200 RPM, 2M buffer 1G,3363,98,20275,38,5936,14,3148,95,14885,16,174.8,1,16,279,98, ^ +,+++,13568,100,289,99,+,+++,1666,96 Well, the Sequential Output --Block-- (marked with ) seems to be the only noticeable difference by about a factor two. I don't know whether my feeling is right that it is connected to the factor of two regarding RAM. 2.4.19, PC clone Athlon XP 1800+ CPU, 256M RAM, udma5 IDE 7200 RPM, 2M buffer 496M,13993,98,42720,22,15410,5,13887,95,38838,8,215.2,0,16,1714,96, +,+++,+,+++,1795,99,+,+++,4073,98 Well yes, it seems that an up to date Intel/AMD machine would be better in any case here, but I hoped that we could find some use for the Ultra 10 ... 2.4.20, powermac 7300 w/G3-450 CPU, 448M RAM, fastnarrowscsi 7200 RPM 1G,6533,87,10500,14,3553,11,4032,55,7448,14,91.4,3,16,237,99, +,+++,26169,97,239,99,+,+++,813,100 Perhaps I could grab some PowerMac anywhere in my institute ... ;-) Thanks for the tests Andreas.
Re: Performance on Sparc Ultra 10
On 19 Jun 2003, Steve Pacenka wrote: Data density difference on a track? From its name, this test would be writing a block much larger than the on-drive buffer and should be limited by the rate at which the drive can write to whole tracks on a platter, and seek between nearby tracks. More data per track = fewer seeks. Another thing that could be limiting might be file fragmentation on the drive. The partition I used has had little written to it ever. Hmmm, the machine had a Solars x.y installed a 7 days ago and got a clean Debian Woody install after an fdisk and formating the partitions with ext3fs. Thus fragmentation is no argument at all - ext3fs might come to mind as probable show stopper for this single test ... My U10 does file, IMAP, apache, and print server duty most of the time. It provides a decently responsive 1600x1200 15 bit GUI when needed. These things must have been ~$5K engineering or financial workstations originally. On my machine a (not yet used Apache) and a Zope based Content Management System (ZMS) which is the primary work of the box. No X11, no database servers or other stuff is running. Kind regards Andreas.
Performance on Sparc Ultra 10
Hello, after compiling a 2.4.21 without module support and left out any unused stuff I was able to increase disk performance of my Ultra 10 (256 MB Ram, 333 MHz): bonnie: Install-Kernel (woody): ehec2,496M,2655,82,11695,63,2407,56,1621,91,3374,80,93.2,20,16,300,96,+,+++,14258,100,303,97,+,+++,1612,88 2.4.21: ehec2,496M,3316,98,13866,27,5968,13,2856,92,12546,13,123.9,1,16,261,97,+,+++,13110,100,270,97,+,+++,1658,96 (For those unfamiliar with bonnie: The numbers greater than 100 are KByte/sec and should be greater for better performance, the number 100 followed by each those numbers are percentage of CPU used and should be smaller.) While this is a good result I wonder how I can tune the system further because it is slower than I expected. I wonder if hdparm might help on those IDE-Systems. So I tested # hdparm /dev/hda /dev/hda: multcount= 16 (on) I/O support = 0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq= 0 (off) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) nowerr = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 8 (on) geometry = 17662/16/63, sectors = 17803440, start = 0 HDIO_GET_BUSSTATE failed: Invalid argument While I do not know what the last line means I wonder why I/O support = 0 (default 16-bit) ^^ On my Intel-Boxes this is IO_support = 1 (32-bit) Any hint whether I could change this setting without a problem (the box is now 200km far from my home and no expert near the box) and what other possibilities I would have. Kind regards Andreas.
Re: New kernel 2.4.21 and Sparc
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Herbert Xu wrote: kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u(from stable) ^^ Make sure you have modutils = 2.4.19. Those kernels are built with a relatively recent version (not in woody) of binutils which requires a new modutils. Well this might be the reason. Sorry, I'm not able to check because the box in question went today into production. I use to compile kernels without modules (for security reasons) and as I said I was successful here. (By the way - would this mean I could remove modutils completely?) Fortunately those errors are harmless so you should just say no when the postinst asks you to abort. Hmm, this might work but I would regard it as RC bug because kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u is not installable in stable. It should depend from a working modutils package and this package has to go into stable. I would like to file a bug report if noone instists. Kind regards Andreas.
Re: New kernel 2.4.21 and Sparc
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Ben Collins wrote: I bet you compiled it with gcc-3.3. Upgraded the gcc and gcc-3.2 packages, and rebuild, or just install the kernel-image-2.4.21-sparc64 package. I failed compiling a working kernel fpr my UltraSparc 10, running stable and egcs64. Thus I tried this hint, but it also fails with the messages printed in the end of this mail. It is the same as I reported in this list with subject Some issues with UltraSparc 10. Any hint Andreas. Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... Selected version 29 (Debian:unstable) for kernel-image-2.4.21-sparc64 Sorry, kernel-image-2.4.21-sparc64 is already the newest version. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Setting up kernel-image-2.4.21-sparc64 (29) ... depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/arch/sparc64/solaris/solaris.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/block/nbd.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/hci_uart.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/hci_usb.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/char/drm/ffb.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/char/drm/tdfx.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/char/lp.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/fc4/fc4.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/fc4/soc.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/fc4/socal.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-floppy.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-tape.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/aec62xx.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/amd74xx.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/cs5530.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/cy82c693.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/hpt34x.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/hpt366.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/opti621.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/pdc202xx_new.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/pdc202xx_old.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/piix.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/rz1000.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/sc1200.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/serverworks.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/siimage.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/sis5513.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/slc90e66.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/trm290.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/via82cxxx.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/raid/ataraid.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/raid/hptraid.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ide/raid/pdcraid.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/amdtp.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/cmp.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/dv1394.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/eth1394.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/ieee1394.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/ohci1394.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/raw1394.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/video1394.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/input/joydev.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/md/linear.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/md/lvm-mod.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/md/md.o depmod: ***
Re: New kernel 2.4.21 and Sparc
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Ben Collins wrote: I failed compiling a working kernel fpr my UltraSparc 10, running stable and egcs64. Thus I tried this hint, but it also fails with the messages printed in the end of this mail. It is the same as I reported in this list with subject Some issues with UltraSparc 10. Damn, what the hell have you built into this kernel? Not me - you builded this image which failed. I just obtained it from Debian-Mirror! Do me a favor, build a kernel like this: But now I'm able to get a working Kernel by compiling it myself using xour /boot/config* as template by stripping the unnecessary parts. I guess my own compile failed because of including the wrong IDE driver. So *my* personal problem is solved. This does not solve the problem that kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u(from stable) kernel-image-2.4.21-sparc64 (from unstable) throw these errors and I really have no idea what might cause this trouble. Kind regards Andreas.
Re: New kernel 2.4.21 and Sparc
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Ben Collins wrote: suspect you did something wrong though. Try my kernel-image-2.4.21-sparc64 package. If that works, use the /boot/config-2.4.21 as a starting point for compiling your own. Any hint what would be the right compiler for a woody machine? Kind regards Andreas.
Some issues with UltraSparc 10
Hi,
I just installed an UltraSparc 10 (256MB mem / 333MHz single processor)
with woody. All went fine so far but I found the following log entries:
Jun 4 17:53:01 ehec2 /USR/SBIN/CRON[10752]: (mail) CMD ( if [ -x
/usr/sbin/exim -a -f /etc/exim/exim.conf ]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q ; fi)
Jun 4 18:00:42 ehec2 kernel: hda: timeout waiting for DMA
Jun 4 18:00:42 ehec2 kernel: ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout
func only: 14
Jun 4 18:00:42 ehec2 kernel: hda: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
Jun 4 18:00:42 ehec2 kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
Jun 4 18:00:42 ehec2 kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
Jun 4 18:00:42 ehec2 kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
Jun 4 18:00:42 ehec2 kernel: ide0: reset: success
Jun 4 18:02:20 ehec2 kernel: hda: timeout waiting for DMA
Jun 4 18:02:20 ehec2 kernel: ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout
func only: 14
Jun 4 18:02:20 ehec2 kernel: hda: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
Jun 4 18:02:20 ehec2 kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
Jun 4 18:02:20 ehec2 kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
Jun 4 18:02:20 ehec2 kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
Jun 4 18:02:20 ehec2 kernel: ide0: reset: success
Jun 4 18:08:01 ehec2 /USR/SBIN/CRON[20094]: (mail) CMD ( if [ -x
/usr/sbin/exim -a -f /etc/exim/exim.conf ]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q ; fi)
Jun 4 18:23:01 ehec2 /USR/SBIN/CRON[20121]: (mail) CMD ( if [ -x
/usr/sbin/exim -a -f /etc/exim/exim.conf ]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q ; fi)
Jun 4 18:23:52 ehec2 kernel: hda: timeout waiting for DMA
Jun 4 18:23:52 ehec2 kernel: ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout
func only: 14
Jun 4 18:23:52 ehec2 kernel: hda: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
Jun 4 18:23:52 ehec2 kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
Jun 4 18:23:52 ehec2 kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
Jun 4 18:23:52 ehec2 kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
Jun 4 18:23:52 ehec2 kernel: ide0: reset: success
Jun 4 18:32:18 ehec2 kernel: hda: timeout waiting for DMA
Jun 4 18:32:18 ehec2 kernel: ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout
func only: 14
Jun 4 18:32:18 ehec2 kernel: hda: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
Jun 4 18:32:18 ehec2 kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
Jun 4 18:32:18 ehec2 kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
Jun 4 18:32:18 ehec2 kernel: hda: drive not ready for command
Jun 4 18:32:18 ehec2 kernel: ide0: reset: success
Jun 4 18:38:02 ehec2 /USR/SBIN/CRON[20164]: (mail) CMD ( if [ -x
/usr/sbin/exim -a -f /etc/exim/exim.conf ]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q ; fi)
These were the only hda - ide related entries over 12 hours and I wonder if this
is a reason to think about.
The next problem is more critical and I think I have to file a bug report
about it but I just want to make sure that I did not made a stupid error.
Currently the box is running the install kernel. I wanted to upgrade it to
kernel-image-2.4.19-sun4u. Please see the output in the end of the mail
for the result.
Kind regards
Andreas.
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Re: NCPFS, anyone?
On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Roy Bixler wrote: I do have 'ncpfs' compiled into the kernel as a module. The really bizarre thing about this is that the 'mount' version appears to be the same (2.11) on both the old '386 box and the new Sparc. Ideas? I should have also noted that I am using a stock 2.4.19 kernel. I tried several 2.4.x kernels because of some other problems. Anywhere between 2.4.9 and 2.4.16 NCPFS stopped working. (Note I'm not really sure wether 2.4.9 really worked - but I definitely had my Sparc running with NCPFS - perhaps it was a 2.2.x series kernel.) Sorry - I was to busy with other stuff to track down the problem but I can commit that NCPFS is currently broken on Sparc. Kind regards Andreas.
Re: NCPFS, anyone?
On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Petr Vandrovec wrote: It should work, but only if you are using sparc binary on sparc kernel, or sparc64 binary on sparc64 kernel, otherwise sizeof(int), sizeof(long), sizeof(__kernel_uid_t) and other may differ between kernel and user. I have patch to ncpfs kernel (2.5.x) to pass mount options through ASCII string, if you are interested. bse:~/tmp uname -a Linux bse 2.4.19-pre9 #1 SMP Mon Jun 3 11:47:28 CEST 2002 sparc64 unknown I have no idea how to specify the right user client on my Debian/Woody system. Any idea? But before you'll try that, try first ncpmount -S server -U rcb -A server -3 /mnt and bse:~/tmp ncpmount -S WRS1 -U TilleA.USER.WR.RKI -A 10.15.140.41 -3 mnt Logging into WRS1 as TILLEA.USER.WR.RKI Password: ncpmount: Invalid argument in mount(2) ncpmount -S server -U rcb -A server -4 /mnt. bse:~/tmp ncpmount -S WRS1 -U TilleA.USER.WR.RKI -A 10.15.140.41 -4 mnt Logging into WRS1 as TILLEA.USER.WR.RKI Password: ncpmount: Invalid argument in mount(2) I'm not sure about the use of -A option because I never needed this on i386 hardware 2.4.x kernels should use mount version 4 (which allows for 32bit uid/gid), but if you'll look at arch/sparc64/kernel/sys_sparc32.c, do_ncp_super_data_conv, you'll find that this function (1) does not check version at all, (2) works only with -3 version, and (3) I do not see where this function actually copies unchanged members: version, ncp_fd, time_out, retry_count and flags... But if you'll rebuild ncpmount as a 64bit binary, problems should disappear without need to fix kernel. Might be I'll do that. But I doubt that it will help much for my special case because the machine in question will leave the Novell environment to fullfill a different job. So it would just for academic reason ... Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Solaris Binaries
On Tue, 1 May 2001, Ben Collins wrote: It can't find the Solaris dynamic linker, which needs to be in /lib (as ld.so or ld.so.1, can't remember). Also, to find the other libraries, you need to either set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, or put them in /usr/lib. You can also copy all the Solaris stuff to another directory and chroot to it. Is there a step-by-step howto for this. I wonder where I could obtain those libraries etc. I have to run http://sunsolve.sun.de/private-cgi/show.pl?target=resources/explorer to detect a possible hardware problem and have no Solaris on my box. Running it under Linux would be great but might be a problem for such harware related stuff. Any experiences? Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Again 2.4.X kernels and SS10...
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Erik Mouw wrote: Oh no, it already works this way for years. It is simply not doable for a single person to test a kernel release on all platforms. For example: the ARM port currently supports 73 different wildly architectures. Do you really expect Linus to test them all? Thanks for the clarification and no I don't expect that Linus is wasting his time. But I would consider it to be a good idea if patches for other architectures would be integrated sooner or later in the official kernel. But I'm really no kernel developer and may be this is a foolish idea. Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Again 2.4.X kernels and SS10...
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Giovanni dos Reis Nunes wrote: First, you must upgrade standard potato instalation with new versions of pppd, modutils and another things. I've it in DEB packages if you (and another one) have interest I can upload they in a public FTP. This would be interesting. An archive like for i386 under ## 2.4.? deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main deb-src http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main would be helpful. Perhaps an autobuild could work??? I have to check my randomly occuring crashes on my E250 server. Perhaps 2.4.x series might help. Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Enterprise 250 ?
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Marcus Crafter wrote: Is anyone out there using Sparc Debian on a Sun Enterprise 250 ? Yes. I'd be really interested in hearing any information about such a machine with Sparc Debian installed on it. ie. success stories, problems, performance against solaris 2.6, etc ? I have Potato running since Dec last year. Installation via tftp worked well. I compiled SMP-kernel myself: ~ uname -a Linux bse 2.2.18pre21 #1 SMP Tue Dec 19 22:53:19 CET 2000 sparc64 unknown Last month I had problems compiling 2.2.19 on it and reported it on this list, but no response. It seems to be a trivial to solve problem, but I had no time to investigate up to now. But I have real problems which I reported under the thread power Error in this list and this isn't solved yet. I suspect an hardware error. I have to admit that I'm really not amused about the Sun service for Linux. They tould me that they only support Solaris and I have to install Solaris on the box if I want to have the problem solved. This is no fun if you want to have this machine in production and you have to get Solaris intalled before a Service men will enter your house :-(. Moroever I had to write him two e-mails until he noticed that there is a free downloadable copy of Solaris 8.1 under http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/download.html (his first response to my hint on this link was There isn't free Solaris. his second response to my hint on the very same link was It is just for PC. and after marking Sparc he mentioned I could order CD's from my vendor for free if I bought a Sparc box). So I think it is a good idea if you try to find a way to install an additional Solaris partition as I will have to do now. Kind regards Andreas.
Kernel 2.2.19 compile problem
Hello, it's really strange that this problem shouldn't occure before. apt-get install kernel-source-2.2.19 worked well on my potato 2.2r3 system. I unpacked the sources in /usr/src and tried to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19# make menuconfig mv: cannot create regular file `include/linux/version.h': No such file or directory make: *** [include/linux/version.h] Error 1 I havn't the slightest idea what might went wrong here. Note that this failure was on the machine which had now its third crash this weekend :-(. I reported about this issue under the topic power Error on this list. I wanted to give a newer kernel a try, but was struck by this problem. For sure there is /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19# ls -l include/linux/v* -rw-r--r--1 root root 75 Dec 28 1998 include/linux/vfs.h -rw-r--r--1 root root 1494 Aug 26 1999 include/linux/video_decoder.h -rw-r--r--1 root root 847 Aug 26 1999 include/linux/video_encoder.h -rw-r--r--1 root root 9231 Nov 18 01:22 include/linux/videodev.h-rw-r--r--1 root root 4529 Jul 18 1998 include/linux/videotext.h -rw-r--r--1 root root 623 Nov 18 01:22 include/linux/vmalloc.h -rw-r--r--1 root root 1997 Mar 24 1996 include/linux/vt.h -rw-r--r--1 root root 1854 Mar 28 1999 include/linux/vt_buffer.h -rw-r--r--1 root root 2972 Mar 28 1999 include/linux/vt_kern.h and I can also /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19# touch include/linux/version.h /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19# ls -l include/linux/version.h -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Apr 17 15:27 include/linux/version.h Is this a problem of the source package. I compiled # uname -a Linux bse 2.2.18pre21 #1 SMP Tue Dec 19 22:53:19 CET 2000 sparc64 unknown myself without any problem on this machine. Kind regards Andreas.
Re: power Error
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Andrew Sharp wrote: Have you had further crashes since the one you mentioned? Besides the GPF light being on, does the system generally work OK? Two crashes. One which caused me to call the service. When the service man was here all seems to work well (with exception of the GPF light???). Before I call the service man a second times I want to track down the problem more deeply. Since you are running SMP you must have built the kernel yourself; what kernel sources did you use? From the debian kernel-source package or from the official kernel source tree? What kind of config options that might be causing this did you select? I used: ~ dpkg --get-selections | grep ^kernel kernel-doc-2.2.18pre21 install kernel-image-2.2.18pre21-sun4u install kernel-package install kernel-source-2.2.18pre21 install ~# dpkg --status kernel-image-2.2.18pre21-sun4u Package: kernel-image-2.2.18pre21-sun4u Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: local Installed-Size: 2232 Maintainer: Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: kernel-source-2.2.18pre21 Version: 1:mir.1.7 Provides: kernel-image Depends: fileutils (= 4.0) Suggests: silo, fdutils, kernel-doc-2.2.18pre21-sun4u When Sun service came the damn box worked again (doing several minutes e2fsck - hey are there any patches for XFS ready for production ???) and started working again. The ReiserFS patch is apparently working quite well. ~:^) Hmmm, there was a discussion on this list that it wouldn't. I have no second Sun to test it seriousely. We have joy, we have fun, we have Linux on our Sun. Heh. :) This was the most important information I've got at the Cebit. Kind regards Andreas. # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # # # Code maturity level options # # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is not set # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y # # General setup # CONFIG_VT=y CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y CONFIG_SMP=y CONFIG_SPARC64=y CONFIG_SBUS=y CONFIG_SBUSCHAR=y CONFIG_SUN_MOUSE=y CONFIG_SERIAL=y CONFIG_SUN_SERIAL=y CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE=y CONFIG_SUN_KEYBOARD=y CONFIG_SUN_CONSOLE=y CONFIG_SUN_AUXIO=y CONFIG_SUN_IO=y CONFIG_PCI=y # # Console drivers # CONFIG_PROM_CONSOLE=y # CONFIG_FB is not set # # Misc Linux/SPARC drivers # CONFIG_SUN_OPENPROMIO=m CONFIG_SUN_MOSTEK_RTC=y CONFIG_SAB82532=y CONFIG_OBP_FLASH=m CONFIG_SUN_OPENPROMFS=m CONFIG_PCI_OLD_PROC=y CONFIG_NET=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_SPARC32_COMPAT=y CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF32=y # CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT32 is not set # CONFIG_SUNOS_EMUL is not set CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_AX=m CONFIG_PARPORT_LOWLEVEL_MODULE=y # CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER is not set # CONFIG_PRINTER is not set CONFIG_ENVCTRL=m # CONFIG_DISPLAY7SEG is not set # # Floppy, IDE, and other block devices # # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=y CONFIG_MD_LINEAR=m CONFIG_MD_STRIPED=m CONFIG_MD_MIRRORING=m CONFIG_MD_RAID5=m # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE is not set # # Networking options # CONFIG_PACKET=y # CONFIG_NETLINK is not set # CONFIG_FIREWALL is not set # CONFIG_FILTER is not set CONFIG_UNIX=y CONFIG_INET=y # CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set # CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set # CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set # CONFIG_IP_ALIAS is not set # CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES is not set # # (it is safe to leave these untouched) # CONFIG_INET_RARP=m CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y # # # CONFIG_IPX=m # CONFIG_IPX_INTERN is not set # CONFIG_ATALK is not set # # Amateur Radio support # # CONFIG_HAMRADIO is not set # # SCSI support # CONFIG_SCSI=y # # SCSI support type (disk, tape, CDrom) # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y # CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR is not set # CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG is not set # # Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs # CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS=y # # SCSI low-level drivers # CONFIG_SCSI_SUNESP=y # CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGICPTI is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX is not set CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX=y CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_DEFAULT_TAGS=4 CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_MAX_TAGS=32 CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_SYNC=10 # CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_PROFILE is not set CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_ISP=m # # Fibre Channel support # # CONFIG_FC4 is not set # CONFIG_FC4_SOC is not set # CONFIG_FC4_SOCAL is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_PLUTO is not set # CONFIG_SCSI_FCAL is not set # # Network device support # CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y CONFIG_DUMMY=m # CONFIG_BONDING is not set # CONFIG_PPP is not set # CONFIG_SLIP is not set CONFIG_SUNLANCE=y CONFIG_HAPPYMEAL=y CONFIG_SUNQE=m # CONFIG_MYRI_SBUS is not set # CONFIG_DE4X5 is not set # CONFIG_VORTEX is not set # CONFIG_RTL8139 is not set # CONFIG_NE2K_PCI is not set
power Error
Hello, I'm really clueless about the following problem: I'm running a Sparc E250 server since december last year under potato. Two weeks ago the machine canceled network connection (no ping) and dosn't had any output on ttyS0 console. I switched it off :-( and on again some times but it doesn't helped. When Sun service came the damn box worked again (doing several minutes e2fsck - hey are there any patches for XFS ready for production ???) and started working again. The only unusual thing logcheck reported was: Unusual System Events =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Apr 4 08:38:10 bse kernel: power: Error, cannot register IRQ handler. Apr 4 08:38:10 bse kernel: request_irq: Old style IRQ registry attempt from 005c7a68, irq . Looking at the date you see that it happened again. I found out that rebooting depends from the position of the keyswitch: If I switch the key to Diagnostics it doesn't start, but no failure LED is on at the Control Panel. If I switch on to Power-On position some seconds after switching on the General fault LED lights steadily. Kind of alarming but the service man thinks it is a Linux problem. If I would boot Solaris it would be off. I'm really clueles what to do now. Does anybody have any experiences which could give me a hint. I have to admit that I havn't observed the state of the General fault LED in the days before the first failure, but I can't imagine that it would be on. Moreover why isn't the box starting in the Diagnostics-mode? Could Linux be related to this LED / switching randomly off trouble. As I said, I'm using ~ uname -a Linux bse 2.2.18pre21 #1 SMP Tue Dec 19 22:53:19 CET 2000 sparc64 unknown on a pure potato machine with security and proposed-updates. Kind regards Andreas. -- We have joy, we have fun, we have Linux on our Sun.
Re: Potato-Woody
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Ben Collins wrote: Ok, let me rephrase, I doubt it will work on ultrasparc :) Nice to see it has made some progress since the last time I checked into it where I was told it wasn't going to happen in the forseeable future. Just for the sake of interest: How far depends filesystem code from the processor architecture? I just planed to use Reiserfs in the next month on an Ultra-Sparc but this discussion let me rethink my plans. Do you think ext3fs is an option and where can I get kernel-patches working with Ultra-Sparc safely. Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Compiling kernel 2.4.0
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Steffan Baron wrote on debian-sparc@lists.debian.org: The new modutils works fine. I could install modules to the 2.4.0 kernel. However when I mount a filesystem via nfs there's a complaint about that I have older version of mount than the kernel. Shall I upgrade mount too? Just ignore it. On my Intel box I'm getting Mount version newer than kernel which is probably what you get after upgrading . Perhaps new packages for modutils, util-linux, mount could go into proposed-updates, to avoid local compile for many people... Kind regards Andreas, who is currently building util-linux_2.10q to get a mount without the feature described above. Sorry for cross-posting but it is a topic for debian-devel in my opinion. Please continue discussion there.
Re: Debian problem on UltraSparc
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Joshua Uziel wrote: * Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001215 03:14]: This is expected and known... your only options are to use only 512MB of RAM with 2.2.x or to have all 1024MB with 2.4.0-testX kernel. Huh, because we are at it. I'm going to install an E250 with 2GB memory. Is this also true for this machine??? Yep, should be. For those who are interested - it isn't. # dmesg | grep Memory: Memory: 2072784k available (1464k kernel code, 21520k data, 112k init) [f800,f8007fecc000] # uname -a Linux mir 2.2.18pre21 #1 SMP Tue Dec 19 22:53:19 CET 2000 sparc64 unknown Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Which floppy drive
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Erik Mouw wrote: Sun machines are able to boot from network, so instead of fiddling with new hardware, it might be easier to do a net boot. See section 5.5 from the installation manual: http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/sparc/install Hmm, my box seems not to find the tftp image. It just repeats: Timeout waiting for ARP/RARP packet My reseller (which declared not to support Linux in any way :-(() said that this is not possible with the E250 because it searches for some configuration files using ARP protocol. Another chance would be, if someone could ship a Debian boot cd (I'm currently unable to burn one myself :-() Hope to get my Christmas gift running this week ... Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Which floppy drive
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Andreas Jaehnigen wrote: Hmm, my box seems not to find the tftp image. It just repeats: Timeout waiting for ARP/RARP packet Is your ARP server up and running? This message is typically generated due What is an ARP server. I followed the instructions in the SPARC install manual topic 6.5.3. My problem is: How does the sun find the server. How does it search the net for such kind of server. How can I tell the IP of the tftp server? to some networking problems.. Typically, the tftp images are located (on your tftp server) below /tftp /tftpboot in the suggested configuration. Also, you need to links in this tftp directory, both pointing to the actual image file. The symlinks should be named after the ip adress of your client, in hex notation, and one of the should have the string .SUNarch-name appended. Example: If your box is a SUN4U machine (it is probably) and has the ip 192.168.0.1 you have to create the links like this: cd /tftpboot ln -s tftpboot.img C0A80001 ln -s tftpboot.img C0A80001.SUN4U Did so: # ll /tftpboot insgesamt 6816 -rw-r-3 tillea admin 2315984 Nov 27 19:30 0A0F8C37 -rw-r-3 tillea admin 2315984 Nov 27 19:30 0A0F8C37.SUN4U -rw-r-3 tillea admin 2315984 Nov 27 19:30 tftpboot.img (all hardlinks to the same file tftpboot.img from the Sparc boot disks directory). Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Which floppy drive
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Karl Hammar wrote: 0, write down network configs and such rarp support in opal kernel tftp installed local mirror exported ro via nfs 1, on hematit, power on, stop-a, boot net 2, on opal, run insmod and make sure hostname is in either dns or /etc/hosts 3, on opal, start tcpddump in another vt or xterm 4, on opal, copy ethernet address from line c to line 5 and run rarp 5, on opal, copy the C0A85D02 from line f to to line 8 (or calculate by hand, C0A85D02 = 192.168.93.2 in hex, but copying is easier) 6, at line i, hematit starts loading the kernel 7, switch to the sparc and continue with the installation program. Very nice howto. Writing this while formating partitions ... ;-) Kind regards and many thanks Andreas.
Getting started via serial line connection
Hello, I've got my fine E250 machine, but run in trouble before thinking about installing Debian. There is no graphics card in the machine and I have to connect via serial line. I found a searial cable which I used to connect a laptop with a desktop years ago and adapted it via gender-changer and 25pin to 9 pin adapter to a Linux laptop. There I started minicom. But after switching on the E250 server I can't see anything on my laptop minicom terminal. Is there any document to read or any starting help. I really don't know what is installed in the Sun and I'm looking for a way to get the console output. Another way would be to insert a graphics card. I've found a PC Matrox G200 card in our shelf but don't know if it works. Any hint how to start up with this beast is really welcome. Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Getting started via serial line connection
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Jean-Paul Blaquiere wrote: There is no graphics card in the machine and I have to connect via serial line. I found a searial cable which I used to connect a laptop with a desktop years ago and adapted it via gender-changer and 25pin to 9 pin adapter to a Linux laptop. There I started minicom. the cable has to be a null modem. the gender bender you've got there might be doing interesting things to the wires. Simplest method (which i have used successfully many times with both alphas and suns) is the 3 wire cable. tx--rx, rx-- and ground--ground :) 9600,8,1,n IIRC. (9600 baud, 8 bits, no parity, one stop bit) Thanks, got it working with seyon. Now I have to search for the documentation for a valid password of the default installation :). Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Debian problem on UltraSparc
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Joshua Uziel wrote: This is expected and known... your only options are to use only 512MB of RAM with 2.2.x or to have all 1024MB with 2.4.0-testX kernel. Huh, because we are at it. I'm going to install an E250 with 2GB memory. Is this also true for this machine??? Kind regards Andreas.
Which floppy drive
Hello, because I'm not able to burn a Debian sparc boot CD just now I wonder if I could insert a floppy drive into my brandnew E250 server to install Debian from floppy. Any hints if I could use normal PC IDE hardware? Kind regards Andreas.
Kernel compile on poor Sun hardware
Hello, we intent to by a E250 server for production purpose. I wonder what to do in case I have to compile a new kernel for this hardware. I would really like to do this on a separate testing machine. But I don't want to by another E250 ;-). Would it be possible to use a cheap Ultra for this purpose and also test it on this system. Well, there are obviousely differences in Harware (the E250 will have two Sparc II processors the Ultra only one, etc.) but for a simple test kond of: Does it work or not on this poor machine - no warranty that it works on E250 but if not, then ... Moreover compiling the kernel on a differnt machine than the production one is also a good idea and I don't want to fiddle around with cross-compiling. How is it handled on the Debian-FTP Sparc? Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Hardware question (urgent)
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Karl Hammar wrote: Yes it is like lilo (I have not used grub), and there are no menu. How do you select from a menu without any key press, is grub mouse based? Sorry, the menu comes up without pressing any key. After this I have to select from a list of systems using the keyboard of course. Mouse would be pure nonsense. Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Hardware question (urgent)
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i had the choice, i'd go for the HW RAID. SW RAID is certainly possible, and it's cheap. but when you look at the administrative overhead, it's just not worth it. The salesman told us about the advantage of software RAID if (and only if as he wanted to make us believe) you are using Solaris. You could finetune buffers and blocksizes and gain performance for certain applications. On the other hand I don't believe that I would find the time to do this finetuning ... i guess that they offered you a T3. this is a decent piece of HW, and it's supported by linux. and you can always run LVM on top of the HW RAID for partitioning. No. From his (German!) offer: SG-XARY150A-72G StorEdge A1000 - 4x 18.2GB/10k UPM USCSI Harddisks - 1x HW_RAID Controller with 24MB Cache - 2x Power supply - 2x Differential SCSI to Host Port - RAID Manager V6.22 for Solaris It was priced 32.670 DM. (For comparison the price for the E250 was 48.550 DM.) that's true. apt-get for solaris would be _great_. anyone up to create Debian GNU/Solaris? some binary only packages for the base and assorted tools, the rest freeware tools. and all bound together by apt-get. ISAGN. Ich I'm not completely wrong there is Debian GNU/Solaris, Debian GNU/HPUX and Debian GNU/Win32 - which is *REALLY* great (I mean all of them are great). Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Hardware question (urgent)
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Karl Hammar wrote: Buy from someone who supports Linux/Debian on Sun/Sparc. Does anybody know a salesman who does this in Germany The point is: if that salesman don't support linux, you are not helped by the sun label on all your stuff, since if it don't work, you have This is exactly what our salesman told us. to show that it won't work under solaris, which puts you into the not desirable situation of supporting both os'es on that box. Which might be a waste of disk space. Anyway, what about a boot manager for Sparc. How to install RAID for both OSes (different filesystem for sure?). A technical answer: You didn't say what system you was offered, only whats inside. I guess the system is an E250. Stupid mistake of mine: Yes, it is an E250. For those who understand German (well specificationa and price is not hard to read: http://www.sun.de/Produkte/Promo/SommerPromo.html Topic: Sun Enterprise E250 (note: you have to add 16% tax to this prices) The E250 don't have raid functionality, though you can get software raid with solaris. But that you can get with linux also. Fine. Which HOWTO you suggest to read first to install RAID with Linux? BTW. the scsi controller is a plain 53c860 if I remember right. I have not tested the ASR nor the RSC. The salesman offered an additional hardware RAID (for nearly 3/4 of the price of the whole box but half the capacity of the internal disks) because he doesn't know whether software RAID ist possible but I think this is really not necessary. A third answer: Why not run solaris. Yes it is a mess compiling/installing/upgradeing the said software (and installing all gnu software you got used to). But if you want to be on the bleeding edge you have to do that anyhow, and web world is kindof bleeding edge. And there are lots of unclean solutions (what the heck, as long as it deliver in time). The plus is that you'll get support from your salesman. The down side is that solaris installs lots of things you possible don't want to have on a public server. Short answer: There is no apt-get. Long answer: I know Debian very good. I have less time to learn an other system. (I'm not afraid to compile things manually. Once I installed a whole GNU system in my /home dir of a HP-UX machine. No problem for me but it should be a secure system many people want to relay on. So I would have to spend time in security issues I know in Debian. And I get security updates/fixes quick and easy via apt-get from security.debian.org. Well, I'm sure I would get fixes from Sun for Solaris, but what about possible bugs in Apache, Zope or PostgreSQL I intent to run basically? Alternative answer: If all fails I can switch back to Solaris but I hope that this not will be necessary. Kind regards Andreas.
Re: Hardware question (urgent)
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Karl Hammar wrote: I don't know the german market. But I do know that my distributor have a presence in germany. Maybe you can call them and see if they have a partner who can solve your need. Wrote e-mail to a partner of them. Thanks for the hint! Boot manager You can use std. sun boot loader or silo to boot solaris. You can use silo to boot linux. Is silo the kind of lilo or more the kind of grub, presenting a menu to select from without having to press any key? You can use std. sun boot loader to load silo from a linux partition and then boot linux Disk space is not usually a problem, though disk slot space is. E.g. Seagate sells 70GB scsi disks, but you can only have six disks in the chassi. Well, 4x36GB seems me to be enough at the moment, but it's allways the same ... In software raid the os uses its own partitions so the should not be any conflickt having both linux and solaris software raid For sure, but it would be interesting to have /home partition on RAID which could be accessed by both systems for instance ... I don't know of any raid card that linux-sparc can use. hw raid is os independent, the whole raid is presented as one big disk Yes but the offered solution is about 3/4 of the price of the server box with twice the diskspace... (The HW raid had only 4x18GB.) Howtos: /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Software-RAID-0.4x-HOWTO.txt.gz from the doc-linux-text package is a good start. There are references there also. You cat go to http://www.linuxhq.com and search for raid, you will get a list of howto's. I don't know which is best. Thanks, I'll check that Andreas.
