Re: ipfwadm?
> >Actually, either of the above tips by themselves may fix the problem as I >think they are essentially doing the same thing. > >For what it's worth, this is how I set up masquerading on my machine, but >I know there are several ways to do it. The way you are doing it sounds >like it is working. > > /sbin/ipfwadm -F -a masquerade -S 192.168.100.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 > >Good luck, > >Gerry >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gerry (and all the other respondents too) Thanks! You all are saying pretty much the same thing and it sounds like I was really looking at or misinterpreting what I was seeing from tcpdump. I think the idea that I should have been using a 3rd machine to do that may be key here. And Gerry, the command line above is one I had seen in a previous post either here (maybe it was you then too) or some other Linux list and that is what I tried originally, in fact. However, as your line is constructed its saying that masquerade is a "policy" and the man page for ipfwadm (on Debian 1.1) doesn't mention that being a valid policy (is the page not current perhaps)? Anyway, I think, with the help of the Debian list, that if I don't have it right now, the info you've provided will help me get it right. Thanks all! Paul
Re: Bugs
The submission address did change, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Bruce
Re: Installation loop and other probs with Debian 1.1.5
From: Bertrand Leconte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As my boot disk is on a ncr53c810 board, I need a special kernel, Write to Susan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, she can send you a special kernel. Bruce
Re: EXT2-fs warning (device 16:0n)...
[regarding chronic filesystem errors] About the only additional thing I can suggest is upgrading your kernel (we are now at 2.0.13, I think) and watching to see if the problem goes away. Bruce
Shadow & S/key
I didn't see this in the faq or recent archives of debian-user. Is s/key and shadow password support built in to Debian 1.1? Thanks Scott Brehm | Jaycor Network Administrator/Senior Systems Analyst | 9775 Towne Centre Drive (And a few other hats)| San Diego, CA 92121 | 619-535-3144
ANNOUNCEMENT: anacron (was called 'pe' before)
Hi everbody! I've just uploaded anacron_1.0-1 to the master server. Note that I changed to name from `pe' to `anacron' which sounds better (I think ;-). If you downloaded the beta from the URL I posted here, I would suggest that you install anacron, move your old configuration /etc/petab over the new /etc/anacrontab and move all spool files from /var/lib/pe/* to /var/spool/anacron/*. Then you should remove the old version with purge: dpkg --purge pe For those who are intrested, here is an extrait from the readme: This is anacron (like `anac(h)ronistic') -- a cron-like program that doesn't go by time. It is useful for jobs, that don't have to run at a certain time, but in a certain period. (That's why anacron was called `pe', periodic execution, before.) By not specifying a certain time when a job has to be executed it is possible to use anacron on systems that don't run continously but are powered on at different times every day. Cheers, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___; [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / \\\__/ !PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA \ / http://www.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/ -.-.,---,-,-..---,-,-.,.-.- "DIE ENTE BLEIBT DRAUSSEN!"
Bugs
I've submitted these two bugs to debian bugs, and got no response; I submitted them again, and still got no response. (Has the list address changed recently?) I could try again, but then I would have to wait again, and so on, so... (In otherwords, sorry for the offtopic.) Package: kbd Version: 0.91-3 The kbd package config utility has a script called kbdconfig which can be run to configure keyboard mapping and soft fonts. These settings are used on boot by a script /etc/rc.boot/0kbd from a config file /etc/kbd/config. Some of the fonts have multiple sizes (972.cp for example). When such a font is selected, it is necessary to select which size is desired, for example (setfont /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts/972.cp -16) would specify size 16. When such a font is selected by kbdconfig, no mechanism is provided to set the font size in the boot script, so the font is not loaded. # setfont /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts/972.cp This file contains 3 fonts: 8x8, 8x14 and 8x16. Please indicate using an option -8 or -14 or -16 which one you want loaded. # I am using kernel 2.0.0, Debian 1.1 (unstable tree circa Jun 22 1996), and libc5.2.18-8 and libc4.6.27-15. I have made changes to the /usr/sbin/kbdconfig script to poll the user for the font size if it is needed (and to save it in the config file), and to ask the user if they want to enable the configuration when the script completes. I have also changed the /etc/rc.boot/0kbd file to use the font size value. These are the patches ... I'm not familiar enough with diff/patch to give a full-directory patch of the changes, so I am diff'ing them seperately. --> /etc/rc.boot/0kbd --- 0kbd.oldTue Jun 25 23:44:33 1996 +++ 0kbd.newTue Jun 25 23:44:11 1996 @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@ TERM=linux KEYMAP="" SOFTFONT="" + SIZE="" fi echo "Console setup:" @@ -35,5 +36,5 @@ if [ -n "$SOFTFONT" -a "$SOFTFONT" != "NONE" ] then echo -n " " - setfont $SOFTFONT + setfont $SOFTFONT $SIZE fi -> /usr/sbin/kbconfig --- kbdconfig.old Tue Jun 25 23:45:22 1996 +++ kbdconfig.new Wed Jun 26 00:00:50 1996 @@ -88,24 +88,101 @@ fi fi + +while [ x$fontok != xyes ] +do + cat << EOT Please choose one of the following display fonts for the VT devices: EOT -(cd $LIBDIR/consolefonts; ls -x) + (cd $LIBDIR/consolefonts; ls -x) + + echo -e "\nOr answer NONE to skip the loading of a consolefont." + echo -n "What consolefont to load? [$SOFTFONT] "; read softfont + if [ -z "$softfont" ] + then + if [ -n "$SOFTFONT" ] + then + softfont=$SOFTFONT + else + softfont=NONE + fi + fi + +# NOTE: We have no way of detecting whether the font makes the screen +# unreadable or correctly loads; I know of no way to test if the +# font requires a size parameter except to test the program for +# failure, so we must test for existence of font. -- KMB -echo -e "\nOr answer NONE to skip the loading of a consolefont." -echo -n "What consolefont to load? [$SOFTFONT] "; read softfont -if [ -z "$softfont" ] -then - if [ -n "$SOFTFONT" ] + bname=$LIBDIR/consolefonts/$softfont + + # Add a default ending if necessary + + [ ! -e $bname -a -e $bname.cp ] && softfont=$softfont.cp + [ ! -e $bname -a -e $bname.psf ] && softfont=$softfont.psf + + if [ ! -e $LIBDIR/consolefonts/$softfont ] + then + if [ $softfont != NONE ] + then + echo + echo Font $softfont not found, setting to NONE. + softfont=NONE + fi + fi + + if [ $softfont != NONE ] then - softfont=$SOFTFONT + echo ; echo Testing font ... ; echo + sleep 2 + setfont $softfont || SIZE=err + + if [ $SIZE != err ] + then + sleep 5 + setfont &> /dev/null + echo + echo If that font is unacceptable, please + echo rerun this script \($0\). + fi else - softfont=NONE + SIZE=NONE fi -fi + + if [ $SIZE = err ] + then + echo + echo -n "Please enter the font size: " + read SIZE + if [ $SIZE != NONE ] + then + echo $SIZE | grep "-" &> /dev/null || SIZE=-$SIZE + fi + + echo ; echo Testing font ... ; echo + sleep 2 + setfont $softfont $SIZE || SIZE=err + + if [ $SIZE != err ] + then + sleep 5 +
Re: mailagent and MH
Hi, Actually, some of the delay is there by design ;-). You see, if a flurry of messages comes in (like, when one runs popclient), then we don't want to spawn as many copies of mailagent as there are messages (well, perl is a rather large binary). What is done is that a number of copies of the c filter (very small footprint, comparatively) are run, and they all synchronize with each other (for example for writing to the log file), but only one mailagent will be started (maybe after all the messages are read); this lone copy of the mailagent then works on all the messages and filters them appropiately. This is a feature, folks. Oh, and this message is, I guess, au revoir, for the nonce. I'll talk to you guys from my new machine, I guess, some time mid sept. manoj -- One week left in the frozen northlands. Manoj Srivastava Systems Research Programmer, Project Pilgrim, Phone: (413) 545-3918 A143B Lederle Graduate Research Center, Fax: (413) 545-3203 University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/%7Esrivasta/>
Re: Debian on a Compaq Prosignia 4/66
David, (Original message quoted below.) I asked around and got two suggestions: 1) If it's an EISA machine, use the EISA config to find out more about the controller. In particular, you want to know if there is an "emulation" mode. If so, you may want to play with this to see if there is a Linux driver for either the emulated or non-emulated controller. 2) Check their web site for software that will let you view the configuration. I took a look at the web site. From your description I *guessed* that you have a Prosignia VS. The docs say only that it's a 32-bit integrated controller. (Helpful, arent' they?) I hope that's some help. Chris -)- On Aug 23, 12:45pm, David Power wrote: > Subject: Debian on a Compaq Prosignia 4/66 : We were just given a Compaq Prosignia 4/66 with 40 MB RAM and a 1.05 : GB SCSI drive to user as a DB Server. Our preference is to run it : under Linux. However, it has a built-in SCSI controller. So far we : have tried Debian 1.1, 1.1.6, and all of the Debial 2.0.5 alternate : boot disks with no luck in detecting and working with the SCSI : controller... : : DOS does work on the system as did Novell 3.12. The system arrived : without documentation. So far the email to Compaq asking for the : SCSI controller equivalent has not been answered. >-- End of excerpt from David Power -- Christopher R. Hertel -)- University of Minnesota [EMAIL PROTECTED] Networking and Telecommunications Services
Re: Help: need to fix ownership of /var/...
On Wed, 21 Aug 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Reposting message with slight modifications as I haven't got any answer yet. > - > Hi, > > Some files under /var and /usr are normally owned by root:systemgroup > were the string systemgroup above can be root, staff, adm , mail, news ...etc > > Q: Will the bootup break something if the ownership of /var/... are set to > root:root instead? In a word, yes, or alternately, you will leave gapping security holes. If you have a friend with a working linux box, ask him to do a find / -ls > trashfile, and mail you the results. You can then construct a script that reads this file, and executes chmod/chown as appropriate. Alternately, start over with a clean root file system. Sherwood Botsford |Unsolicited email that advertises commercial Physics Dept |activities will consitute a request for U of Alberta |spellchecking of all words of less than three Edmonton, AB, |characters. I charge $US500 for this service. T6G 2J1 |There is no warranty of correctness of this service.
Re: Debian quirks?
> > /tmp > > Several programs seems to prefer /tmp over /var/tmp. I have a 30MB / > > partition, and only about 10MB space free on /tmp. This didn't work very > > well while trying to restore a 50MB file from taper. (I've now mounted > > 100MB on /tmp to avoid the problem.) > > I've got several machines that install with an absurdly small root or > /tmp partition. What I usually to is blow away /tmp, and replace it > with a link to /usr/tmp or /var/tmp depending on the machine. Be careful with this... /tmp is cleaned during system bootup while /var/tmp is not. Setting this link could cause /var/tmp to be cleaned at bootup, possibly erasing files that should not have been. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.
Re: ldso package and perl
Douglas Bates writes: > When using dselect to install several upgraded packages today I > suddenly started receiving error messages from perl. Here is part of > the transcript. This due to a packaging problem in ldso. It will be fixed in a few days. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081
Debian on a Compaq Prosignia 4/66
We were just given a Compaq Prosignia 4/66 with 40 MB RAM and a 1.05 GB SCSI drive to user as a DB Server. Our preference is to run it under Linux. However, it has a built-in SCSI controller. So far we have tried Debian 1.1, 1.1.6, and all of the Debial 2.0.5 alternate boot disks with no luck in detecting and working with the SCSI controller... DOS does work on the system as did Novell 3.12. The system arrived without documentation. So far the email to Compaq asking for the SCSI controller equivalent has not been answered. Any suggestions? TIA, Dave
Re: Netscape Library Error (netscape without .deb)
> > > XKEYSYMDB='/usr/local/lib/netscape/XKeysymDB'; export XKEYSYMDB > > > XNLSPATH='/usr/local/lib/netscape/nls'; export XNLSPATH > > > > Do those XKeysymDB and XNLSPATH really provide something useful or have > > you used them only because they are provided ? > > The following info has been in the Netscape README file since at least > version 1.12N. It used to say "SunOS 4.1, Linux, and BSDI:", but Linux was > taken out of the title during the 3.0 beta releases. The cut and paste > error certainly occured for me back with v1.1, and was fixed by installing > the NLS stuff as indicated in the README. I haven't quoted the details of > the NLS installation. Actually, the XKeysymDB that comes with Linux is more advanced than the one distributed with Netscape. Thus, pointing the env var to the one that comes with the netscape distribution is actually a detriment. The "nls" problem is a bit different. If not set properly, a paste into one of the text fields will cause netscape to crash. Again, the "nls" that comes with linux is fine. Netscape just needs to know where to find it. By default, it look under /usr/X386/lib/X11/nls instead of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/nls. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.
Re: EXT2-fs warning (device 16:0n)...
On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Luca Maranzano wrote: > Bruce Perens wrote: > > > > I've tryed to e2fsck /dev/hdc2 (thinking that device 16:02 corresponds > > > to /dev/hdc2) and it found a lot of errors, but it seemed that e2fsck > > > was able to correct them all; after rebooting similar messages appeared > > > again after some hours. > > > > > Any clue about this? > > > > Any random core dumps? This is going to sound stupid, but check for bad RAM. > > Any bad block (I/O error) messages? > > Not at all, I've recompiled several times the kernel (even under X) and > all went fine, so I *think* it shouldn't be a RAM related issue. > > I've reformatted /dev/hdc2 yesterday with the -c option and all > was good, and today the same message has appeared again, besides some > files has been lost. How can I investigate further in the problem > in your opinion? > Luca: I have had similar problems on a Triton 430FX motherboard. The errors seemed to go away once I forced the IDE interface to use a more conservative setting than it would normally choose automatically. I suspect that my problem was because one disk was older and less capable than the other disk. The interface chose the MODE 3 of the more recent disk and since the 430FX chipset cannot handle different modes for two disks on the same interface, the second disk which should have been set to MODE 2 (and was detected as such by the BIOS) was causing problems. As I said, this seems to have fixed the problems so far (I am keeping my fingers crossed!) Carlo *** *Carlo U. Segre * * Department of Biological, Chemical and Physical Sciences * *Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago, IL 60616 * * Voice: (312) 567-3498 FAX: (312) 567-3494* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ***
duplicate gs and gsfonts
Hello All: It appears that there is a duplication of gs and gsfonts in the Debian tree. The 2.62-2 versions of both packages appear in the /stable/binary/text and /unstable/binary/text directories but the 3.53-3 version of gsfonts and the 4.0-1 version of gs appear in the /non-free/binary directory. There is a problem with the latter item since gs version 4.0-1 requires the 4.0-1 version of gsfonts, which is not available. When dselect finds this kind of arrangement it uses the highest version number and therefore tries to install the packages which are in the non-free part of the tree, with unfortunate results. It might be a good idea to rename the packages to distinguish the normal copylefted versions in the stable and unstable directories from the versions in the non-free. This could be done in much the same way as for tk40 and tk41 and conflicts could be established so the two would not be loaded together. Cheers, Carlo *** *Carlo U. Segre * * Department of Biological, Chemical and Physical Sciences * *Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago, IL 60616 * * Voice: (312) 567-3498 FAX: (312) 567-3494* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ***
archie
hiya all, i've been useing archie for awhile and quite often i get this: archie failed: Recvfrom failed (dirsend) not sure what it means any ideas? thanx -Rob /-\ | Robert "Adrenolin" MacQuarrie | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |=| | ProvisioNet Distributions at New Jersey Branch | | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \-/
StarOffice install script (No Motif)
Download the staroffice package into some directory and put the following
script there. Run it as superuser and Staroffice will install without
Motif libraries:
starinst:
#!/bin/sh
# Prepare Star Office for Non Motif installation
mkdir temp
cd temp
# Extract Libraries needed for installation
unzip ../disk.01-1 libxp3so.0/libxp3.so
unzip ../disk.01-2 libso312.0/libso312.so libtools.1/libtools312.so
unzip ../disk.01-4 libsv312.1/libsv312.so
unzip ../disk.01-5 libsvt31.0/libsvt312.so
# Copy them over to /usr/local/lib
find . -type f -exec cp {} /usr/local/lib \;
cd ..
rm -rf temp
# Link Needed
ln -s libso312.so /usr/local/lib/libXm.so.2
ldconfig
# Make install executable if not yet
chmod a+x install
# Startup installation
exec ./install
Re: dselect and ftp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- "David J. Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | My recent ftp debian 1.1 installation was a great success, | except that I appear to have deleted a package needed for | further ftp installations using dselect You need to reinstall "dpkg-ftp". | I don't know | where I went wrong, but was trying to save some disk space | and probably pressed a - when I should have selected an =. You did nothing wrong: when I installed Debian 1.1.5, I noticed that the "dpkg-ftp" had been *automatically* deselected, and I had to manually fix that. I just forgot to file a bug report about it. Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQBVAwUBMh3frYmVIQW1OgXhAQHUDgIAmP0rNkPlzsqmerK+heOcCGPP9xGnsLZF tBkm1EpdvXKQl0Ik8MXVeKSegLqII3DWa0viCB6EjvdLcvUUBTleXQ== =5+qE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Digested version of this list? (Stopped archives)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jean Orloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:00:07 -0700, Ken Gaugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Ken> At 10:33 AM 8/22/96 -0700, you wrote: > >> Is there a digested version of this mailing list?... > Ken> Check out http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/ >NOPE! Precisely! Those stop on June 24. Any follow-up out there? Not yet... the scripts I used to generate the mbox format archives on the FTP site, from which the webbified version is generated, were lost in a disk crash. As I'm finishing my master's thesis, I haven't found time yet to reconstruct them. (Hopefully, I'll reconstruct them in September). Greetings, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: telnet acces for root ?
Adam Heath writes: > > > > This is all nice and good, but there is a better way. > [bad way deleted] There is a reason that that /etc/securetty does not contain the pseudo terminals in the first place. It is very unsecure to allow root to login directly anywahere except the console or possibly a computer right next to the console. Now, the above method is fine if your computer is only part of your personal LAN that no one else has access to and if your computer is never connect to the internet (unless you disallow telnets with /etc/hosts.deny|allow). There are mean people who will try to hack your machine even during the 10 minutes that your computer is on the internet via a PPP/SLIP dynamic IP account. It gets even more likely if you have any kind of permanent connection to the world. I would even not trust your collegues if you have a moderatly large LAN where you are not the only user. It's your choice, but... Its saffer to log on as a normal user and su. Erv -- ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \- Erv Walter --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org \_\/
Re: Unidentified subject!
From: "Carlo U. Segre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Alternatively, boot the system from a floppy and make the second > partition the active one. This will then boot LILO properly without > having to write to the MBR. It works... I don't think that will work because he wrote LILO on the MBR. Bruce
Re: new documentation on how to develop Debian packages available
On 23 Aug 1996, Ed Donovan wrote: > Rick Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > For emacs users, my deb-view feature is just what you need to look at > > doc files in a .deb file without installing _or_ unpacking the archive! > > > > http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~macdonal/deb-view.el > > Ditto. Some of these dpkg docs are html; if you have w3, when you > deb-view one of these docs you can 'w3-preview-this buffer' to display > it right. It can't follow the links (hmm...that'd have to be pretty > abstract) so view each file separately, if that's comfy for you. I realized this last night, and added support for W3 into deb-view. I'm going to add INFO support as well, then I'll announce the update. I guess neither mode will be able to follow links, but it's still very useful. ...RickM...
Re: gcc can't find termcap library
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I recently installed Debian 1.1, including termcap.compat. Since then > I've installed a custom version of the kernel (2.0.7) successfully, so > I figure that gcc is reasonably well set up. > > However, I tried to compile kermit 5A(190) and the make failed, > complaining that it couldn't find -ltermcap. The Debian termcap package is only intended for run-time use to allow old and non-Debian programs compiled with termcap to work. Any new programs should be compiled with ncurses. > There is definitely a file of the form /lib/libtermcap.so.?, but I > guess gcc is looking for a *.a file. > > How should I go about fixing this? You should convert the source and/or Makefile to use ncurses. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081
Bug Report: clock seg faults
The following should be self explanitory: Dillweed# dpkg -i util-linux_2.5-5.deb (Reading database ... 15590 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace util-linux (using util-linux_2.5-5.deb) ... Unpacking replacement util-linux ... Setting up util-linux (2.5-5) ... Dillweed# clock -> Segmentation fault Dillweed# dpkg -i util-linux_2.5-4.deb dpkg - warning: downgrading util-linux from 2.5-5 to 2.5-4. (Reading database ... 15590 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace util-linux (using util-linux_2.5-4.deb) ... Unpacking replacement util-linux ... Setting up util-linux (2.5-4) ... Dillweed# clock -> Fri Aug 23 01:21:12 1996 Dillweed# Please look into this... -Erik -- Erik B. Andersen Web: http://www.et.byu.edu/~andersee/ 2485 South State St. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Springville, Ut 84663phone: (801) 489-1231 --This message was written using 73% post-consumer electrons--
ldso package and perl
When using dselect to install several upgraded packages today I suddenly started receiving error messages from perl. Here is part of the transcript. ... Preparing to replace ldso (using .../base/ldso_1.8.2-1.deb) ... Unpacking replacement ldso ... Preparing to replace modules (using .../base/modules_2.0.0-8.deb) ... perl: can't load library 'libdl.so.1' perl: can't load library 'libdl.so.1' ... Running /sbin/ldconfig -p indicates that the required library is there. bash$ /sbin/ldconfig -p 50 libs found in cache `/etc/ld.so.cache' (version 1.7.0) 1 - ELF libvgagl.so.1 => /usr/lib/libvgagl.so.1.2.8 ... 28 - ELF libdl.so.1 => /lib/libdl.so.1.7.14 ... The installation eventually finished and now I can run perl again. Three packages (linux-util, gcc, and another that I forget) did not install correctly. On the second time an installation was attempted it was successful for these three. Is it possible that I need to clean up from other packages for which the post.inst scripts did not run when perl was temporarily unavailable?
Re: Digested version of this list? (Stopped archives)
> On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:00:07 -0700, Ken Gaugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Ken> At 10:33 AM 8/22/96 -0700, you wrote: >> Is there a digested version of this mailing list?... Ken> Check out http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/ NOPE! Precisely! Those stop on June 24. Any follow-up out there? Amities, Jean Orloff + + + + + + + + ++ +Tel:(33)50.09.16.75 Fax:(33)50.09.94.95 http://lapphp0.in2p3.fr/~orloff/+ + + + + + + + + ++ "H2O is hot water, and CO2 is cold water." >From science exams at high-school. + + + + + + + + +
RE: gcc can't find termcap library
Download the debianised version from www.columbia.edu. Casper Boden-Cummins. >-- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 23 August 1996 01:55 >To:debian-user@lists.debian.org >Cc:The recipient's address is unknown. >Subject: gcc can't find termcap library > >I recently installed Debian 1.1, including termcap.compat. Since then >I've installed a custom version of the kernel (2.0.7) successfully, so >I figure that gcc is reasonably well set up. > >However, I tried to compile kermit 5A(190) and the make failed, >complaining that it couldn't find -ltermcap. > >There is definitely a file of the form /lib/libtermcap.so.?, but I >guess gcc is looking for a *.a file. > >How should I go about fixing this? > > > >Danny Heap, UCSF, California St., Room 102, SF CA, 94122 >[EMAIL PROTECTED], voice: (415) 476-8910, fax: (415) 476-1508 > > >
Re: mailagent and MH
Hi Brian -- Brian Mays wrote: > Last time I checked, the popclient program simply retrieves each > message from the server and mails it, using the generic `mail' > program, to the user's local account. Then the MTA, such as sendmail > or smail, actually delivers the message, sending it to mailagent if > instructed to in the user's .forward file. The delay that you have > observed is the time required for the local MTA to deliver the > message. You are exactly right. I think what confused me is that popclient sends messages to the terminal saying "reading message ", then "reading message ", which I took to mean that it had finished reading message N, and had therefore made it available for me to read. That was wrong, and the delay was long enough to have caused the confusion. This is a case of files being shifted between several buckets. ISP -> /var/spool/mqueue -> mailagent's spool -> MH's folders. #1 #2 #3 #4 I suppose what's confusing is that what I used to do was to call MH's 'inc' command directly, which was equivalent to saying "please put my mail messages in bucket #4". What happened before the messages were dumped into #4 was invisible to me. By calling popclient directly, which is what's required in order to cause the MTA to divert messages through mailagent, I'm saying "please put my messages into bucket #2". Lacking any notification that mailagent is in the process of moving messages from #2 to #4, I just assumed that the completion of the only task I executed from the command line (popclient) implied the completion of the whole process. (Hmm. Somehow the fact that this doesn't happen, and yet the user isn't notified, still seems non-optimum.) Meanwhile, your interpretation is very much appreciated. Am beginning to "get it." Thanks, Susan Kleinmann
Installation loop and other probs with Debian 1.1.5
Hi! I've just tried to install Debian 1.1.5 my computer. I have several problems. As my boot disk is on a ncr53c810 board, I need a special kernel, but it seems that they only exists with a 2.0.5 kernel while the standard kernel is a 2.0.6. But went I choose the installation of the kernel, I have the following message "Error in archive format". After this, the modules don't want to load (version mismatch). After the reboot, after choosing the software to install with dseelect, and after started the installation, dselect make a loop on making the replacement. After 4 loops, I've made a ^C to be able to configure the packages. My third problem is that I've select kernel-sources but I don't see /usr/src/linux. Hardware: = Mother board: Asus T2P4 Pentium 133 SCSI board SC-200 (ncr53c810) 1Gb boot disk (700Mo for linux, no swap) CDROM ATAPI/IDE Thanks for your help. -- Bertrand Leconte Alcanet International France [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use win32gcc
wilbert writes: > Does anyone of you know how to use the win32gcc package? Did I miss some > documenation or websites? Am I right when I assume that with this package > I can compile and link c++ programs which are runnable on a windows > machine? You are completely correct. But you need cygwin.dll (on ftp.cygnus.com) to be able to run the binaries. Michael -- Michael Meskes |_ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | / ___// / // / / __ \___ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \__ \/ /_ / // /_/ /_/ / _ \/ ___/ ___/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| ___/ / __/ /__ __/\__, / __/ / (__ ) Use Debian Linux!| //_/ /_/ //\___/_/ //
Re: EXT2-fs warning (device 16:0n)...
Bruce Perens wrote: > > I've tryed to e2fsck /dev/hdc2 (thinking that device 16:02 corresponds > > to /dev/hdc2) and it found a lot of errors, but it seemed that e2fsck > > was able to correct them all; after rebooting similar messages appeared > > again after some hours. > > > Any clue about this? > > Any random core dumps? This is going to sound stupid, but check for bad RAM. > Any bad block (I/O error) messages? Not at all, I've recompiled several times the kernel (even under X) and all went fine, so I *think* it shouldn't be a RAM related issue. I've reformatted /dev/hdc2 yesterday with the -c option and all was good, and today the same message has appeared again, besides some files has been lost. How can I investigate further in the problem in your opinion? Thank you for your time. Regards, Luca.
Re: Security holes in bash
On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: Hello Bruce, > This is best sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], for future reference. Will do so, Thanks Steffen PGP Key is available under : http://www.xlink.net/~steffen/steffen.asc - Steffen R.Mueller __ ___ _ _ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NTG Netzwerk und Telematic GmbH \ \/ / (_)_ __ | | __ fax : +49 721 9652 210 Geschaeftsbereich Xlink \ /| | | '_ \| |/ / phone: +49 721 9652 211 Vincenz-Priessnitz-Str. 3/ \| | | | | | < RIPE : SM25-RIPE D-76131 Karlsruhe, Germany /_/\_\_|_|_| |_|_|\_\ WWW.Xlink.net/~steffen
Re: Kernel headers
Miroslav Ruda wrote:
:
: I think old Slackware idea (/usr/include/{linux,asm,net} are links to
: /usr/src/linux/include/{linux,asm,net}) is more better. I can simly upgrade
: kernel_source and not yet libc5 to have same version of kernel headers.
:
: Is any reason why not to use this schema in Debian too?
libc5 is compiled with e.g. the 2.0.0 headers. So it's absolutly
correct to use these headers for `user' development.
For kernel development you'd probably need the most current headers as
found in /usr/src/linux/include/linux ...
Some weeks ago I'd a similar question like you, but now I think, the
current solution is the most approbiate.
Heiko
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Re: Please explain Motif issues (was: StarOffice under Debian)
"James A. Robinson" writes: -> -> > Can someone point me toward the FAQ or HOWTO that will explain the -> > issues with Motif? Why is Motif hard to come by and what is Lesstif? -> -> Motif is a set of "proprietary" libraries licensed by OSF. So it -> costs money to get them. I've bought them for $99.00 at InfoMagic -> (http://www.infomagic.com), but I've heard some people quote and -> amazingly low price of $40.00. Normally one sees them going for -> $200.00 or so. To be more explicit, it's a proprietary implementation of an 'open' API. The name 'Motif' is a trademark, and the actual code is copyright, but the API is 'open'. The going rate I've seen is generally $99-$199. The only way you might see it for $40 is if it's the runtime package only (just the shared libs) as vendors have to pay $40 for each development pachage they ship to OSF (Development package is libs and header files - source is on the order of $15,000, I think). If I understand the licencing correctly, the shared lib may be shipped without the header files without charge, which would allow you to use dynamically linked Motif programs, but not compile Motif apps on your own. I'm not a lawyer, so I could be wrong on this. -> Lesstif is an attempt to duplicate the API of Motif, without using the -> proprietary source code. They want to allow anybody to compile and -> run Motif programs using Lesstif. Lesstif is free, and is put out by -> the Hungry Programmers (http://www.hungry.com). As far as I can tell, -> it is still very unstable, and not usable for something like -> StarOffice. But others who have actually used it should speak up. It's made lots of progress, and certain apps run OK with it. However, it's still not quite there yet for larger apps. -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg. -- Bjarne Stroustrup on C++
Re: Unidentified subject!
On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: > > What should I try next to get the hard drive to boot > > the kernel on the second partition? I may have ruined > > it by writing a boot record onto the second partition. > > Try re-installing the LILO package, and answer _yes_ to all of the questions > it asks you. This will put Debian's MBR program on your MBR, and our standard > LILO configuration on your partition, and will get you > in a known state that will help us diagnose any subsequent problems. > Alternatively, boot the system from a floppy and make the second partition the active one. This will then boot LILO properly without having to write to the MBR. It works... Carlo *** *Carlo U. Segre * * Department of Biological, Chemical and Physical Sciences * *Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago, IL 60616 * * Voice: (312) 567-3498 FAX: (312) 567-3494* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ***
Re: bable won't configure
On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Shaya Potter wrote: > > I just upgraded to the newest Babel (3.6-4) and it seems to have gotten > screwed. It won't configure because it says it doesn't know how to > generate manfnt.mf, and then it says it can't find manfnt.mf. It then > writes a huge log file to disk, which has crashed my machine already > because it filled up the disk, so now I kill it before it writes too > much. > I had installed some new TeX packages right before I installed Babel, > could that be the reason it is messed up right now. I have included all > the output from the configure and the end of this message in case that > can help anyone figure out what happened. Ditto here, I noticed the same problem this afternoon! *** *Carlo U. Segre * * Department of Biological, Chemical and Physical Sciences * *Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago, IL 60616 * * Voice: (312) 567-3498 FAX: (312) 567-3494* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ***
Re: perl
Andy Dougherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Perl uses 'csh' for filename globbing (that is, for <*.*> sort of > constructs.) Yes, that's strange behavior, and the dependency probably > will eventually be removed, but not anytime soon. But, but...I thought it was noted, here or in the bug reports, that the csh-usage was an optional include, and was being taken out. Maybe this is a Debian stable/unstable issue?, because my current perl, and the current rex/binary-i386 Packages file say: Package: perl Version: 5.003-2 Pre-Depends: libc5, libgdbm1, libdb1 I've never had csh on this system and this version went in fine, works fine. Darren, are you around to confirm that this is behind us? -- Ed Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new documentation on how to develop Debian packages available
Rick Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > For emacs users, my deb-view feature is just what you need to look at > doc files in a .deb file without installing _or_ unpacking the archive! > > The file is about 12KB. > > http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~macdonal/deb-view.el > Ditto. Some of these dpkg docs are html; if you have w3, when you deb-view one of these docs you can 'w3-preview-this buffer' to display it right. It can't follow the links (hmm...that'd have to be pretty abstract) so view each file separately, if that's comfy for you. (Unsolicited deb-view ramble: I find it particularly valuable, since I used to 'dpkg -x' deb-files all the time to check stuff out, and often I was root. Cleaning up from that, I'd always 'rm -r usr/' in the unpacking workspace, and then gasp, realizing I'd been one character away from the apocalypse :-) Thanks again, Rick. -- Ed Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: telnet acces for root ?
-- > > >I've set up a test PC with Debian 1.1 and want to > > >administer it remotely but am refused a telnet connection > > >as root ... is there a way around this ? Do I have to give > > > > > > The way I handle this problem is log in under my account and type > > > > su root > > > > Then it'll ask for the root password and bada-bing! You're root. > > > > Hope this helps! > > Tim > > > > I use a program called "op" that works like "super". Its > not quite as quick as "bada-bing" its more like "bada-bing > bada-boom" but there's much to be said about this mechanism. > > It provides accountablility, more granular control over > rootly power, etc. > > Bye ... > This is all nice and good, but there is a better way. == /etc (2)$ cat secur* # /etc/securetty: list of terminals on which root is allowed to login. # $Id: securetty,v 3.0 1994/09/09 03:38:19 imurdock Exp $ tty1 tty2 tty3 tty4 tty5 tty6 tty7 tty8 ttyp0 ttyp1 ttyp2 ttyp3 ttyp4 ttyp5 ttyp6 ttyp7 ttyp8 ttyp9 Date => Sun Aug 18 11:06:33 EDT 1996 /etc (3)$ who root ttyp0Aug 18 11:06 (adam.hackers-net) Date => Sun Aug 18 11:08:15 EDT 1996 /etc (4)$ == I used telnet in Win95 to access linux, and cut and pasted this output into here. The ttyN are the function key terminals. ttypN are for telnet. Have fun!
Re: debianized
Hi Timothy -- You asked: > I'd like to know if there is any document/help info for me > read on how to become debian-ized. Look on http://www.debian.org. > I'm currently run SLACKWARE and thinking about switching. You'll get the unwelcome advice that you'll need to (a) save your configuration files, and whatever else you don't want to lose. (b) fetch the Debian boot, root, and 3 base disks, (c) reboot, following instructions in the boot disk, etc. You'll really be best off in the long run if you reformat your hard disk (unless you have a spare handy) and install Debian on a clean partition. > How do I sign up for the debian mailing list anyway. Thanks! Execute this command: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s subscribe Good luck, Susan Kleinmann
Re: gcc can't find termcap library
> However, I tried to compile kermit 5A(190) and the make failed, > complaining that it couldn't find -ltermcap. > > There is definitely a file of the form /lib/libtermcap.so.?, but I > guess gcc is looking for a *.a file. Are you sure? Perhaps it's looking for /lib/libtermcap.so (without the '.?' extension) > How should I go about fixing this? If so, use ln -s --gilbert __ Gilbert Ramirez Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Texas http://merece.uthscsa.edu/gram Health Science Center at San AntonioUniversity Health System
Trojan NetKit??
I saw this announcement in c.o.l.a and I am a bit confused. There has been something called "NetKit-B-0.07B" uploaded to some of the archive sites. This is an unauthorized release of NetKit-B. It may be trojanized or hacked. Please do not use it; please remove it from all archives. The currently released version of NetKit-B is NetKit-B-0.07A. NetKit-B-0.08 is going to be released in a few days. All future releases of NetKit-B will be PGP signed. If in doubt, please contact me directly. David A. Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18-Aug-1996 Is this person the maintainer of the NetKit?? Just from looking on nic.funet.fi under /Linus I see that NetKit-B-0.07B is present and is a mirror (?) of the actual maintainers site. Who is the actual maintainer of the NetKit package? The person claiming to be the maintainer and the person listed in my howto's are two different people. ?? Thanks, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new documentation on how to develop Debian packages available
Guy Maor wrote: > On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Shaya Potter wrote: > > > Is there a postscript version of the documents > > Yes, in the directory ftp://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/users/ian/dpkg-doc/ > you'll find various versions of the files, including postscript. > > Once again, these are *DRAFT* documents which do *NOT* reflect current > policies. Although major changes are unlikely, they are certainly > possible. > > If you are a prospective developer, please also get the latest hello > and dpkg packages from /debian/project/experimental to play with. The > same caveats apply; you should *NOT* upload any packages using the new > source format. > In an effort to save some time and possibly some trees, note that: The new documents are provided in the most recent versions of dpkg (>=1.3.3). They are in /usr/doc/dpkg as HTML files. If you get the source for dpkg version 1.3.3, you will find the SGML source files from which these HTML files were generated using the new debiandoc script developed by Ian Jackson. (Thanks, Ian!). In order to translate those files into Postscript, you need to install debiandoc-sgml, linuxdoc-sgml, sp, and sgmlspm. Then you can convert the SGML source files into postscript using the command debiandoc2ps programmer.sgml debiandoc2ps policy.sgml Then, if you live on the West side of the Atlantic, you probably then will want to run the command psresize -Pa4 -pletter programmer.ps > programmer.ps.letter and then you want to print programmer.ps.letter. Assuming not everyone wants to go through all this, it might help some folks to put the Postscript files (in both A4 and letter size formats) on the WWW site. These documents have been so badly needed for so long that it seems that it would be a really Good Thing to do whatever can be done to promulgate them (IMHO). Regards, Susan Kleinmann
Re: Digested version of this list?
I suggest that you get "procmail" or "mailagent" on your system, and set it up so that the list is split into a separate file from your personal mailbox. That's how I read the 30 lists I subscribe to, and there is much less overwhelm than if I had everything in one mailbox. Thanks Bruce
gcc can't find termcap library
I recently installed Debian 1.1, including termcap.compat. Since then I've installed a custom version of the kernel (2.0.7) successfully, so I figure that gcc is reasonably well set up. However, I tried to compile kermit 5A(190) and the make failed, complaining that it couldn't find -ltermcap. There is definitely a file of the form /lib/libtermcap.so.?, but I guess gcc is looking for a *.a file. How should I go about fixing this? Danny Heap, UCSF, California St., Room 102, SF CA, 94122 [EMAIL PROTECTED], voice: (415) 476-8910, fax: (415) 476-1508
Re: NFS trouble
> >My 2 cents' worth on this one is that my (new) system had full NFS >capability until I installed the netstd package, at which point I got the >above message. > >Poking around showed that /etc/init.d/netstd__nfs had all 5 of the _start_ >lines commented out. I am a Unix dumbkov but uncommenting the nsfd and >mountd lines got things going again. This may not be the way to fix it. > >HTH > >Lindsay That is precisely what my problem was also None of the daemons were started 'cause they were all commented out Paul
debianized
Hi,
I'd like to know if there is any document/help info for me
read on how to become debian-ized.
I'm currently run SLACKWARE and thinking about switching.
Please reply directory to my email because I do not believe
I'm in this mailing list.
How do I sign up for the debian mailing list anyway. Thanks!
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Re: Digested version of this list?
At 10:33 AM 8/22/96 -0700, you wrote: >Is there a digested version of this mailing list? I'm being overwhelmed by >the amount of traffic here. If there isn't a debian-user-digest, I think it's >high time somebody created it--please. > >-Randy >-- >http://cogsci.ucsd.edu/~gobbel/ > >NOTICE: I DO NOT ACCEPT UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL EMAIL MESSAGES OF ANY KIND. I >CONSIDER SUCH MESSAGES PERSONAL HARRASSMENT AND A GROSS INVASION OF MY >PRIVACY. > > > Check out http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/ --- Key fingerprint = D6 A7 D7 8C 92 CB 42 FD 60 D5 62 1C D7 B9 EA 8E Ken Gaugler N6OSK Hybrid Networks, Inc. Cupertino, Calif. URL: www.hybrid.com (home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: users.aimnet.com/~keng) "The life of a Repo Man is ALWAYS INTENSE..."
Re: Apache - catch 22?
At 09:01 22/08/96 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Fun -- hi Su:) >dpkg --info libgdbm1_1.7.3-11.deb > >yields: >... >Depends: libc5 (>=5.2.16-1) >... You quite right, but i have libgdbm1_1.7.3.8 ... thats my other problem, i cant find lib3-11 ... I even had a look at ftp.debian.org, i can find this version ... .. thanks ..:) Im out like bell bottom trousers, - mIcHaEl ///\ The Australian Internet Company c-00 ISP par Excellence \ > http://www.electric.rain.aic.net.au/(mine) |\_- http://www.aic.net.au/ (not mine) \ / . "Skinhead is to Pinhead, as Tiny is to Weany" -La Hahn
RE: Non-existent .deb's
On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Ninoles, Fabien: DGSE wrote: > But, this method does not use the descriptions, or dependency lists, > either. I kind of like that information, as it allows me to see if I'm > trying to install something I don't have the extra files for. It's fairly easy to generate your own Packages files from what's installed on your drive. Download the files /debian/indices/override* and just run `dpkg-scanpackages binarydir overridefle [pathprefix] > Packages' binarydir is the name of the binary tree to process. overridefile is the name of the override file. Use the appropriate one from the set you just downloaded from the indices directory. pathprefix is an optional string to be prepended to the Filename field. The experimental dpkg 1.3 in project/experimental has an actual manpage for this command. (no way!) If you're mastering CDs, btw, it's a very very very good idea to generate your own Packages files. The Packages file can be as much as 24 hours out of sync with what's actually on the site. Guy
Re: new documentation on how to develop Debian packages available
On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Shaya Potter wrote: > Is there a postscript version of the documents Yes, in the directory ftp://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/users/ian/dpkg-doc/ you'll find various versions of the files, including postscript. Once again, these are *DRAFT* documents which do *NOT* reflect current policies. Although major changes are unlikely, they are certainly possible. If you are a prospective developer, please also get the latest hello and dpkg packages from /debian/project/experimental to play with. The same caveats apply; you should *NOT* upload any packages using the new source format. Guy
Re: Kernel headers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miroslav Ruda) writes: > Is any reason why not to use this schema in Debian too? Read /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz -- Rob
Printing over Ethertalk
You may remember that I posted a little while ago about not being able to print over ethertalk. Well now I can print, but that doesn't do me that much good because it just keeps on printing. I have tried many things, but I can't seem to figure out what's going wrong. I could modify a lpr script I have, but that wouldn't do me any good because I still wan't to use lpd and lpr that came with the system. I am begining to think their is either a bug in psf (comes in the netatalk package) or in lpr/lpd. When ever I print with pap alone, it prints fine. However when I use psf as an input filter in the printcap file, and then I call it with lpr, it prints an infinite amount of copies. Has anyone ever seen this behavior before from either lpr/lpd or psf. The only things I can think of are maybe the printer's the problem (HP LaserJet 4M Plus) or the permissions of the spool directory are wrong. drwxr-sr-x 2 root lp 1024 Aug 22 15:37 hplj4m Thanks Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: does Linux support 2940 Ultra Wide SCSI?
Lawrence Chim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am considering to buy a 2940 Ultra Wide SCSI card. Does anyone > using it? Does the kernel support it yet? I just started using one with my new machine, and it appears to work fine. You might need to make sure you have a fairly recent kernel. I will note that this card does not appear to cooperate well with the older AHA-2940. I tried using both in the machine at the same time, and it wouldn't quite work. It is supposed to work if you have identical cards. -- Rob
Re: new documentation on how to develop Debian packages available
Is there a postscript version of the documents. Thanks, Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Guy Maor wrote: > On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: > > > There is some new documentation that I think is essential for all > > prospective Debian developers to read. > > The documentation is also available at: > http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ian/policy.html/ > http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ian/programmer.html/ > > Note the trailing `/'s. > > > Guy > >
Re: lilo installation on IDE disk > 500 megabytes
>Resent-Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:28:53 - >Resent-Cc: recipient.list.not.shown:; >Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Str|mberg) >Subject: Re: lilo installation on IDE disk > 500 megabytes >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Blair) >Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:28:35 +0200 (MET DST) >Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org (Debian user mailing list), >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Resent-Message-ID: <"V8tcM3.0.455.aw67o"@vega> >Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org >X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5366 >X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Hello. > >> >> I am trying to install the 7-14-96 debian release on a machine >> with over 500 megabytes on an IDE hard disk. I want to have a DOS >> partition and a linux partition. At present fdisk shows: >> >> >Device Boot BeginStart End Blocks Id System >> > /dev/hda111 356 179392+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M >> > /dev/hda2 * 357 357 966 307440 83 Linux native >> > /dev/hda3 967 967 99916632 82 Linux swap >> >> fdisk also displays a warning: >> >> > The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1025. >> > This is larger than 1024, and may cause problems with: >> > 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) >> >> The lilo documentation says: >> >> >Note that large partitions that only partially extend into the "forbidden >> >zone" are still in jeopardy even if they appear to work at first, because >> >the file system does not know about the restrictions and may allocate disk >> >space from the area beyond the 1024th cylinder when installing new kernels. >> > >I think that your hda2 partition is under the 1024 cylinder boundary. Roar >those of you debianites that disagree (let us know, i. e.)! >Is there someway to check this with a program or can you be sure that when you >have a partition taking up 16MB (the swap) at the end of a disk of this size >that that last cylinder (1025) is only used by that partition? > >> Lilo suggests either using LOADLIN or booting from the DOS partition: >> >> > In order to accomplish this, the DOS partition is mounted read-write, a >> > directory (e.g. /dos/linux) is created, all files from /boot are moved to >> > that directory, /boot is replaced by a symbolic link to it, the kernels are >> > also moved to the new directory, their new location is recorded in >> > /etc/lilo.conf, and finally /sbin/lilo is run. >> >>I tried creating a subdirectory c:\linux in DOS, then from linux: >> >> mkdir ./dos >> mount /dev/hda1/linux ./dos >> cp /boot ./dos >> >> At this point, I got some warning or error messages. It looks as though >> file names got truncated, and in some cases discarded completely. >> >> >From ls /boot: >> >> >System.map-2.0.6 chain.b >> >any_b.b map >> >any_d.b mbr.b >> >boot.0302 os2_d.b >> >boot.bvmlinuz-2.0.6 >> >> >From ls ./dos: >> >> >any_b.bmap >> >any_d.b mbr.b >> >boot.030 os2_d.b >> >boot.b system.map >> >chain.b >> > >Yes FAT handles only 8.3 names as I'm sure you know. There is a file system >called umsdos that adds this functionality to FAT. But to use this I suppose >that you would need it compiled into the kernel as we are talking booting >here. Perhaps a little too inconvenient and wasting of space. > >> I would appreciate some hand-holding at this stage. Exactly >> what commands do I type to carry out the lilo instructions (specifically, >> the symbolic link and copying the kernel)? Or would I be better off >> trying loadlin? >> > >I saw that there was another reply as well. (S)He (I don't remember the name, >sorry) had some good ideas as well, like the name of the kernel doesn't >matter. > >> Sorry this has been such a long post. Thanks for your patience! >> >> > > >I hope my reach is long enough, > > MartinS > > > I originally set up Linux on a WD 1.2GIG IDE drive, putting Linux / into /dev/hda1, swap in /dev/hda2, /usr in /dev/hda3, and Windows 95 in /dev/hda4. The entire Linux system was under 500 Megs, so I did not have to do _anything_ tricky to get it to work. (Getting the Linux system to work the way I wanted it to has _not_ been so smooth, but that's another story :-) ) I use Central Point Bootsafe, part of their old Antivirus program, that watches for any program that tries to modify the boot sector. I installed Win95 first, so after I installed Linux and LILO, of course the boot sector was modified, and Bootsafe complained when I subsequently booted Win95. I just let Bootsafe accept the new boot image as the correct one, (choose "Update" from the promt) and Linux and W95 lived happily ever after. I don't know if this rant will help or not; I hope it will. --- Key fingerprint =
dselect and ftp
My recent ftp debian 1.1 installation was a great success, except that I appear to have deleted a package needed for further ftp installations using dselect I don't know where I went wrong, but was trying to save some disk space and probably pressed a - when I should have selected an =. Could this be wu-ftp ? I've looked in the "packages" list and couldn't see any dependencies could anyone help me out with this one ? Thanks in advance David __ David J. Evans AMS, Virology Research Group, The University of Reading Whiteknights, P.O. Box 228, Reading RG6 6AJ Tel : +44 (0)118 9318893 Fax : +44 (0)118 9316537 http://skpc10.reading.ac.uk/
Re: EXT2-fs warning (device 16:0n)...
> The first question is this: which device are 16:02 and 16:01 ? > I looked in /dev searching for devices whith major number 16 but > I didn't found any. Shouldn't hda and hdc correspond to major 3 and 22 ? The message is in hex (which is probably a mistake). It's hdc2 and hdc1. > I've tryed to e2fsck /dev/hdc2 (thinking that device 16:02 corresponds > to /dev/hdc2) and it found a lot of errors, but it seemed that e2fsck > was able to correct them all; after rebooting similar messages appeared > again after some hours. > Any clue about this? Any random core dumps? This is going to sound stupid, but check for bad RAM. Any bad block (I/O error) messages? Bruce
Re: Security holes in bash
This is best sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], for future reference. Thanks Bruce
Re: Unidentified subject!
> What should I try next to get the hard drive to boot > the kernel on the second partition? I may have ruined > it by writing a boot record onto the second partition. Try re-installing the LILO package, and answer _yes_ to all of the questions it asks you. This will put Debian's MBR program on your MBR, and our standard LILO configuration on your partition, and will get you in a known state that will help us diagnose any subsequent problems. Thanks Bruce
Re: lilo installation on IDE disk > 500 megabytes
From: Charles Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am trying to install the 7-14-96 debian release on a machine > with over 500 megabytes on an IDE hard disk. Well, if LILO will work at all with the default configuration that you get when you install the package, you are probably safe, since only _one_ cylinder extends beyond 1024. Only a fraction of one percent of your disk blocks are in that cylinder, and it is unlikely that the kernel will land on one. If that's the case, it would be best for you stop here rather than trying any of the following. I solved this problem by creating a small partition for my "/", separate from the one for "/usr". All of that partition was below the 1023rd cylinder, and all of the files that LILO needed fit in it. Then the lilo configuration that the package creates automaticaly will always work. If you want to run LILO on the /dos partition, I think the /etc/lilo.conf file should look like this: boot=/dev/hda1 (block device for /dos) root=/dev/hda2 (block device for linux "/") compact install=/dos/boot/boot.b (make sure this file is there) map=/dos/boot/map (this will be created there) vga=normal prompt image=/dos/vmlinuz (make sure this is there too) label=Linux read-only Then, make sure to make the DOS partition as the boot partition using fdisk. This will make it impossible to boot DOS without a floppy. That's one reason it might be better to create a separate small root partition for Linux. Thanks Bruce
bleh...
I'm running the unstable tree. If someone else can try '/sbin/clock -r' and let me know if it seg faults, I'd appreciate it. It does it on 2 systems here... :( Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps "A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought." - Warren Buffett ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
